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That train has left.

But there are plenty of Americans that are aware of, and quite against, the Marxist agenda here in the USA, and abroad.

I thought 2A would ensure the overthrow of a facist regime? Seems to me the majroity of Americans are lazy content bums who will not ACT when the founding fathers meant for them to act. Now it's too late. All talk, no walk. Every 2A activist should sell their guns and buy nappies.

Jan 6th was a pathetic joke. I was hoping they would burn that fucker down and drag all the leaders out on the streets Gaddafi style. Not act like a junior high school trip. 2A is a joke.

Yes. that is my only perspective of all possible perspectives.

Sure sounds like it. I listen to a few American conservative voices and everything you say echo what they say.
 

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I thought 2A would ensure the overthrow of a facist regime? Seems to me the majroity of Americans are lazy content bums who will not ACT when the founding fathers meant for them to act. Now it's too late. All talk, no walk. Every 2A activist should sell their guns and buy nappies.

does 2A mean Republican party?
Or Conservative Americans on the Right?
i am not familiar with that term.

I agree that the conservative right in the USA has failed to act here in the USA on a number of occasions.
I think the fighting spirit for the constitution of America has been dulled down by many Ahrimanic influences.
I think the Q anon thing was probably just a psyop to get the right to stand down and watch the show.

Jan 6th was a pathetic joke. I was hoping they would burn that fucker down and drag all the leaders out on the streets Gaddafi style. Not act like a junior high school trip. 2A is a joke.

Sure sounds like it. I listen to a few American conservative voices and everything you say echo what they say.

well, i used to be way more Hippie, leftist type.
i didn't identify so much as that, but it was more what i aligned with and Canada... well, that's a very lefty country.
But since Covid, i've swung more to the right, conservative.
it's just where the truth is presently resting on so many issues and where most people talking any sense these days
are coming from. It's also the antidote to the totally retarded leftist culture of the world.
In my alchemist heart, however, i am more of a centrist.
 

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2A = Second Amendment

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person.
 

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I agree. Q is a psy-op for sure.

On I see, I thought you were in the US.
 

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I once had a plan to re-locate to Canada. It’s very similar to my own motherland, only bigger. I felt an urge to start a new life there. But I never did due to a break-up (we were planning to go together)…

Then years later I lost my online Canadian friends because I said the soon to be PM Trudeau was a fascist in disguise. They blocked me on social media.

Who is laughing now?
 

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I once had a plan to re-locate to Canada. It’s very similar to my own motherland, only bigger. I felt an urge to start a new life there. But I never did due to a break-up (we were planning to go together)…

Then years later I lost my online Canadian friends because I said the soon to be PM Trudeau was a fascist in disguise. They blocked me on social media.

Who is laughing now?
yeah that's impressive.

I had an intuitive read on Trudeau from a mile away.
While everyone was swooning over him, I smelled a rat.
He's just the worst. If anyone wants to know what the NWO plans are, just watch Trudeau.
 

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What is called the Lord in the Bible is the Ahrimanic force you speak of and Satan is an archetype. Within Satanism just a symbol of rebellion, one I like… but outside Satanism a term that is somewhat confusing.

Satan/Ahriman hides in plain sight as the Lord in the OT aka the Demiurge. That’s my feeling on it.
 

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What is called the Lord in the Bible is the Ahrimanic force you speak of and Satan is an archetype. Within Satanism just a symbol of rebellion, one I like… but outside Satanism a term that is somewhat confusing.

Satan/Ahriman hides in plain sight as the Lord in the OT aka the Demiurge. That’s my feeling on it.
yes. this was a painful one for me to accept. A tough red pill. But I see it that way too.
I discussed this in my thread Terror at Crossing the Threshold.

I do think it might be a little more complicated as well than just the Lord in the bible = Ahriman.
Let me explain what I mean: (this comes from a mishmash of my own experience/knowledge and thoughts and the Ahrimanic stuff is large from Rudolf Steiner)

This world is meant as the grounds for us to grow.
We grow through challenge and opposition.
The challenge comes from the nature of the physical, how this world is made.
It is made by Ahriman. He is Lord here over the physical, material world.
Torah also emanated from Ahriman... but...
within the Torah are secrets encoded for the Most High God - that God which is above Ahriman and is essentially, of Love.
Ahriman is meant as a challenger - to oppose full growth into the Truth/Light/God/Love.

So one embracing "the Lord" from the Torah is living with the box that will never enable them to embrace the fullness of God.
But the Torah is also like a riddle, a mystery. To crack the code reveals a path to the One True God that unites all things
and is the Life in the Stone. So torah is not entirely divorced from God though its external expression is Ahrimanic,
just as on this Earth one can transcend the matter-based reality even though its external expression is Ahraminic.

The Torah, especially Genesis Chapter 1, but also throughout, is a code book of Alchemy.
Alchemy teaches how to take the Terra Damnata which is Ahriman's curse and transform it to know the True God
in the Self and to transcend the death that is also from Ahriman's influence over matter.

And back to our thread.
I never use the argument "God gave us this land" as a point in any debate about why Israel and the Jews, for many reasons,
one being, such a thing is VERY Ahrimanic and very "My God is better than your God" sort of foolishness.
Something I have yet to share however is this -

I believe the way the Torah is created to offer opportunity, in the End of Days, which I do believe we are in now,
to correct the errors of our Patriarchs and Matriarchs.
The purpose of this is for healing, and reconciliation and ultimately the love that will radiate from that healing and reconciliation will be tremendous.
Call it part of the Game of Life.

So... in the Torah, the story of Abraham, Sarah, and Ishmael and Hagar is where the rift begins.
It's clear Sarah is jealous/envious/resentful that her son, Isaac, when he finally comes, will not inherit Abraham's kingdom.
So she has Abraham cast out Hagar and Ishmael. <-- this was the original rift.
I believe the most high God is orchestrating the bringing together of Israel with Ishmael to sort this out.
to reconcile this original error.
I do not believe Ishmael did anything wrong. Ishmael laughed as Abraham and Sarah declared that anyone who witnessed the birth of Isaac, the miracle, should laugh. the name Isaac (Yitzhak) literally means "he will laugh." Well, Ishmael did.
I do not believe Hagar did anything wrong. She was even known to be a righteous woman in the Torah and had her name changed.

so i do think the Jewish people have to acknowledge this error.
Hopefully, then, they can be guided to find the way to make amends with Ishmael's descendants.

So, in this light, Ahrimanic influences in the torah are not just evil, bad, false, but designed with a purpose, as described in the above, and including Alchemy and other paths to the Most High God.
 

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The God above God makes an apperance as the Serpent.

I doubt very few Jews in Israel have any genetic heritage with any of the Jews in the Torah if we even assume any of it ever even took place.
 

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The God above God makes an apperance as the Serpent.

That's quite different from how I view it.
The Serpent is the Challenger. He actually does deceive them.
He says, "You will be like God knowing Good and Evil."
And that is the trick because they already are God.

I doubt very few Jews in Israel have any genetic heritage with any of the Jews in the Torah if we even assume any of it ever even took place.
That's an absurd assertion that you have no way of knowing.
 

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Why is genetic testing illegal in Israel?
 

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Why is genetic testing illegal in Israel?
It's not illegal, per se, but there are some controls on it.
There is a right to privacy. And also a need for informed consent to do genetic testing.
 

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I have a Canadian acquaintance who works in functional medicine. She used to work extensively with genetic tests from 23andMe, for determining genetic mutations and predispositions. 23andMe (founded by one of the Google wives) also determines ancestry. She told me that 23andMe does not send ancestry testing kits to Israel, although it does send those kits to Europe, etc. Not sure if it's a "legality" thing or only a corporate thing, although technically what's the difference...

Also, as I wrote in a previous post, I have my doubts that there any is actual Jewish nuclear DNA, as Judaism is passed ONLY from the mother's side, and the only DNA that is received exclusively from the mother's side is mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA).

But I don't really know shit about genetics, so this may be totally inaccurate.
 

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Plenty of websites that document all the research done. Wikipedia is clearly woke and thus against anti-semitism so in this instance an unbiased source (sort of).


If you goes to a Zionist website they scream and yell about the anti-semitism regarding research that show evidence that the Jews are not direct decendants of those in the Bible.

The more one studies this topic, the more ridicilous the "chosen people" concept becomes... because the chosen people have been fucked out of existence. Here is a current video on the "purity" of the BLUE Jewish bloodlines:


I have always rejected blood lines, like the monarchy. To claim I have a right to anything because of what my parents did, or their parents did (or for that matter be blamed) is beyond stupid. Yet another effect of the PARENTAL mentality humanity is trapped within.

This is a core issue that goes back to the very concept of the LORD... Father in heaven... a parental mentality. Then as science and society evolved away from religion, the State and the Institutions replaced the religious PARENT with the state PARENT.

I am a parent and I have ONE job: to ensure my children become better than me and without any need of my support, independent humans that can do the same to their future kids

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An adult does not need a parent (state, institution).

An adult is responsible for the self and do not obey orders. You cannot tell an adult what to do. You can ask nicely for a favour.

An adult understands Natural Law. Now that term can be confusing due to semantics... I'm not sure what to call it... the point is I don't need to know the name... the Law is "built in"... Golden Rule, not stab a friend in the back, not rape or kill innocent people, protect children and so on.

There are very few adults in the world. I did a podcast on this recently...

Episode 333: daycare for adults*

* that's what society is, daycare for adults
 

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I don't know much about this topic. but I am curious to understand.
If I did do a 23andme test, and it came out to 97% Ashkenazi Jewish...
what does that mean in regards to me descending from the Biblical Jews of the past?
I haven't even begun trying to wrap my brain around this can of worms.
 

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I don't know much about this topic. but I am curious to understand.
If I did do a 23andme test, and it came out to 97% Ashkenazi Jewish...
what does that mean in regards to me descending from the Biblical Jews of the past?
I haven't even begun trying to wrap my brain around this can of worms.

All Jews came from an Iraqi Arab man... so Arabs were there first... was it Isaac or Jacob (I forget).

Basically there are none... the claim it's "their land" is like saying I have x % native blood thus the USA is my land because I'm part Cherokee. Complete BS.

All the white fair skinned Zionists in Israel don't belong there. It's an occupation.

Dive into the DNA. I'm sure you can find some interesting things.
 

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@Andro

The top three then kind of. The rest are garbage laws.

Emma Goldman wrote: "A natural law is that factor in man which asserts itself freely and spontaneously without any external force, in harmony with the requirements of nature."

That's the one I trust. Sure, some folk might have "bad" laws within them... but 10 % are sociopaths, and as soon as we smoke them out it's

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All Jews came from an Iraqi Arab man... so Arabs were there first... was it Isaac or Jacob (I forget).

Basically there are none... the claim it's "their land" is like saying I have x % native blood thus the USA is my land because I'm part Cherokee. Complete BS.

All the white fair skinned Zionists in Israel don't belong there. It's an occupation.

well i can see you won't miss any opportunity to make that point again.
:rolleyes:

Dive into the DNA. I'm sure you can find some interesting things.
I might. It is not driven by any real passion, but a mild curiosity.
I can see what comes up.

It was Jacob. Isaac is Jacob's father.
Jacob is the father of the 12 tribes of Israel.
Israel is the name that Jacob got after he wrestled / contended with the angel.
 

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well i can see you won't miss any opportunity to make that point again.

It's an important point. The videos coming out from Gaza are horrendous. I had to stop and watch them... saw countless...


Well said. Zionists aren't stupid. If they did what Elon propose they'd win... but they don't want to win. They want to genocide.
 

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that is so weak.
There are plenty of people spamming allllll sorts of hate and criticism against Israel.
The country is ripe with it. the USA is totally divided.
If you couldn't criticize Israel, about 10 billion posts per day wouldn't be going up.
CNN wouldn't be calling it genocide.

The truth is, you can and many people are doing it.
The other side just sees it better. more accurately, not marred by the false narratives going on there.

WEAK!!!!
 

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I wanted to post a video with a good quote but I can't seem to find the right copy. Found an ADL version but it cut out the important bit.

The jist was that in China and Russia and Iran you can't be critical of the government... In the USA you can criticize everything except the Zionist lobby. Same goes with social media platforms.

If you learned anything from Covid, follow the censorship. But you are correct, the ADL has been calling everything anti-semetic that it has began to backfire in the same way as calling everything Nazi or racist or white supremacy. But if you have a certain job or position, you better be careful about saying ANYTHING against Israel.

Btw did you see this...


Every Zionist was up in arms about it. LOL.

I've seen countless videos of Israelis on TikTok laughing at videos of dead kids in Gaza. Like it or not, real anti-semitism is coming back 2024 big time... and who can we thank for that? Israel. Well done morons.

If only Elon was in charge.

Edit: I updated my post because it was the incorrect clip, I don't stand by the clip you quoted.

(is it possible to embed a FB video on this forum?)

I'm sure there is a way. I don't know how.
 

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