The Seed charging experiments or "How to charge strongest"

[Widur]

 

[Widur]

Brief overview of experiments till April 14.



Old experiments shedule:



Analysis finished on May 23:

 

[Widur]

Current and actualized model of HIM:



Unproven suspicions/variations of explanations:



Strongest experiments +
last experiments shedule:



Current and upcoming experiment shedule:



Points to investigate and how, further experiments planned and ideas to go on:



What to confirm next:

 

[Widur]

Todays tests:

For charger the experimentvwas a fail, the top mag fell down inside.

2.07. 23.6..: 23.5+21.5+18+16.5= 79.5 equal 19.875
MEOW with -+- air and water as always, lid closed.

Now for minus on top a lid is good.
For MEOW
For plus it seemed useless. For charger even bad.
Surely has to do with the mag field growing onto the lid.
Also the plastic lid surely blocks a part of the HIM movement, even with a mag on top.

Even these easy setups I am doing are in fact such complicated when it comes to HIM catching, charging, movement and leaching/blowing off.

Hope we learn more the next time and are able to make something strong!

My first spinner experiment.
Only 1 cause I have just 1 spinner, Still need to build it.
IfI could just find s disc with a hole of right size, but I couldnt.
Its slightly uneven and not perfectly centered, but quite good.
But Id like to have it perfect and more robust. It doesnt even fit in the MEOW!
Also the construction is just for starting, I thought I had another paper roll like the MEOWs center tube.
Id need some small glass or paper tube.
Ill find some tomorrow.

 

[Widur]

Todays tests:
3.07. 24.6.: 19.5+19+19+18.5+18= 94 equal 19
Charger with +-+ air and water as always

3.07. 24.6..: 20+18+17.5+16= 71.5 equal 17.875
MEOW with +-+ air and water as always.
Why so low?
I guess its really the rust in the water!
At least its consistent!
I cleaned all glassware with vinegar, but the water itself has rust in it!
What shall I do?
@ghettoalchemist, what would you do? Just change to tap?
Use coffee filters? But they have micropores, this leeds to cavity effect!
(Coffee machine a charger interesting.)
I am currently testing different waters, so maybe just wait for results, then switch to tap or whatever is good?

 

[Widur]

I really forgot pics of the new build up??

Just without water for foto.
Air is a bit stronger, I could dial it down, but since I want to go strong and start using stronger magnets, why would I, only for better comparison?

Fun fact: It rotates with a good 88 rpm.
Hope it doesnt travel back in time!

I could go much faster, but slower it wouldnt move evenly.

Todays tests:
4.07.25.6.: 21+19+18+17+17=92 equal 18.4
Charger with +-+ air and water as always, lid closed

4.07.25.6.: 20+18+16+16+15= 85 equal 17
MEOW with +-+ air and water as always, lid closed

Analysis: Again that weak, but then its still before glasses were cleaned of rust and water was still rusty, is till now, I dont know yet what to do, but will find out vey soon.
Big problem is I have just one spinner and not much time.
I really need to find a turntable for it which really fits, and some mass which hardens, to put it on such round disc as I now use for turntable.
Then Ill build a second one and perfect the actual one.
Surprising something like that(disc) doesnt seem to exist for model constructors, you know, like airplanes, small trains and landscapes and such!

 

[Widur]

Todays tests:
5.07.:26.6.: 21+19+18+18+17= 93 equal 18.75
Charger with xxx(no mags), no air, groundwater

5.07.:26.6.: 20.5+18.5+18+17+16= 90 equal 18
MEOW with xxx(no mags), no air, groundwater

5.07.:26.6.: 17.5+15+15= 47.5 equal 15.833
Charger with xxx(no mags), no air, trap water from wastewater of hundreds of liters of reverse osmosis water produced (waste is at least 4 times the amount)

5.07.:26.6.: 20.5+20+17+14= 71.5 equal 17.75
MEOW with xxx(no mags), no air, trap water from wastewater of hundreds of liters of reverse osmosis water produced (waste is at least 4 times the amount)

5.07.:26.6.: 21+17.5+16+15.5+12.5= 82.5 equal 16.5
Control in 300ml erlenmeyer glass like in charger with trap water from wastewater of hundreds of liters of reverse osmosis water produced (waste is at least 4 times the amount)

Charger and MEOW doesnt seem beneficial really. The groundwater control is done a few days later, maybe itll be weaker, well see.
Trap water a bit worse.
Also the trap stuff being not better than control is just what you would expect, as lots of people think reverse osmosis totally destroys waters structure, Vinni Pinto tells not to use it for batches of bacteria brew.
Well that was the waste which didnt move through the micro pores of osmosis filter, maybe osmosis water itself is better. But I dont think so and havent tested, tomorrow comes tap water tests.
I think it looks better even today, so till now all the common rules are proved right.
I hope when we get to spinner, we manage to go strong.
I just need to get proper ground water, it seems to be full of rust everywhere suddenly.
Tomorrow Ill try getting some in another part of the city(have it from oldfashioned water pumps which are everywhere in Berlin).

Actually I am performing experiments of the new shedule.
Just accidentally I started with them with spinning spinner for 4.7. and 5.7., experiments 92+93 instead of 90+91, but doesnt matter, I just do them the other way round
Starting today for tomorrow with 90.

Cause I forgot water I did something out of the shedule for today, just leak of water with air pumped in the leak, it was without mags the strongest ever so far, on 12.4.!
(The MEOW is just with air bubbled in to have pressure, thers no experiment.)

So its quite interesting, will the mags cause the HIM to blow off or will it be damned strong, could be strongest or weakest till now, Ill bet itll be interesting, strong results.
But today I am going back to shedule with experiment 90.
I just wished I had proper water without rust!
Well tomorrow, well soon see the difference, which is interesting too!
Todays experiment:

 

[Widur]

Todays tests:
6.07.:27.6.: 18.5+17.5+17.5=53.5 equal 17.833
Charger with xxx(no mags), no air, tap

6.07.:27.6.: 20 equal 20
MEOW with xxx(no mags), no air, tap

Control: 19+18= 37 equal 18.5

glass like in charger with xxx, no air, tap water, in open room

It seems that I accidentally did
perform and plant the experiments with groundwater which I already did on 26. and therefore
threw out for 27. after accidentally putting them on again.
I had the place so probably cause of this I did them again.
Although the lines are blacked.
But here:
6.07.:27.6.: 21+19+13.5+13.5= 67 equal 16.75
Charger with xxx(no mags), no air, groundwater

6.07.:27.6.: 18.5+17.5+12= 48 equal 16
MEOW with xxx(no mags), no air, groundwater

Analysis: with groundwater a bit worse than the ones yesterday, but not much and also I dont count in dwarves cause it would be unfair if a test with 5 plants would be worse than one with 4 just cause it had a plant of 8cm.
Weird that tap was even better.
But I really think its the water which became rusty in the hot summer.

I again found another groundwater pump today, but am not yyet sure if its really clean! I need to clean the bottle first for tomorrow, then Ill see!
of course rust has strong bad influence, it influences chemistry and reactions and everything!

Do you think I can just use coffee filters to clean?
Why dont ever someone answers, not even after Ive put everything down I know and found out some days ago?

 

[Dendritic Xylem]

Why dont ever someone answers, not even after Ive put everything down

We don't answer you BECAUSE you post EVERYTHING. Every failed experiment, every random thought, everything.
I tried to figure out the best charging method you came up with and exactly how much more growth it caused.
But I couldn't, because there's a gigantic ocean of useless info to go through.
So I skipped to the "strongest experiments" page on post #128...
But the columns aren't even labelled, so I don't know what the numbers mean.
And the results after the numbers are extremely vague like "strong" or "strong, but not as strong"

I said before that you really need to work on organizing your info better so it actually makes sense and is easy to interpret.
But you didn't...and now everyone is ignoring you hoping you'll stop spamming the forum with low-quality posts.

You don't need to post every single thing you do.
The forums aren't a contest to see who can make the most posts per year. Quality is much better than quantity.
Just post your very successful results...if there are any. Then maybe someone will replicate or discuss it with you.

Btw, seeds 'might' not be very consistent for side by side experiments if you just use a few or dozen seeds per test.
Each seed is a genetically unique phenotype even when they come from the same parent plant/s.
That's why most fruit trees are sold as clones/cuttings instead of seeds.
I did hydroponics experiments for decades. Also made a living from it.
I always used clones when testing new supplements and salt/mineral ratios.
Seeing a 10-30% increase in growth from few test seeds could just be from genetic variance rather than the charging method.
So you need to use large populations like 100 seeds for each test and control, or even better...clones.
If you can't do that, then only get excited when growth increases by a large amount, like 60%+ more than the control group.

Just my opinion.

 

[Widur]

We don't answer you BECAUSE you post EVERYTHING. Every failed experiment, every random thought, everything.
I tried to figure out the best charging method you came up with and exactly how much more growth it caused.
But I couldn't, because there's a gigantic ocean of useless info to go through.
So I skipped to the "strongest experiments" page on post #128...
But the columns aren't even labelled, so I don't know what the numbers mean.
And the results after the numbers are extremely vague like "strong" or "strong, but not as strong"

I said before that you really need to work on organizing your info better so it actually makes sense and is easy to interpret.
But you didn't...and now everyone is ignoring you hoping you'll stop spamming the forum with low-quality posts.

Thats why I told everyone singlely that I posted everything important in one batch!
List of experiments, lists of strongest experiments with 3 mags and air, other strongest experiments,
actual model, lists of what we know and not know, just suspect,
shedule of last experiments, list of actual and coming experiments...
even with a (kind of) table of contents...what do you need more? Or better said: less?
Youre right about the labelled columns but I didnt want to need even more sites
and I do a lot of work to do something what WEIRDLY no one ever tried before!
To get REAL RESULTS, not just saying: Oh you can feel(!) extremely strong energy!
(if thats right test it on something, plants or whatever!!!)
The columns ARE labelled on the first 2 sites!!
I thought thats enough and that everyone following my stuff would at this point know the meaning!
I dont expect answrs all the time .
But I am posting summarys of everything and actual status every now and then and make sure to get that clear!!
This time I mailed people to make sure it doesnt get lost in the big everything.
Vague results? There are NUMBERS!
The strong but not strong is just a help to compare with the hundreds of numbers!
The sheer size of my work makes it impossible to short it down even more without getting inaccurate!
You only need to read from the the post I linked you till the end of the summary which should be clear, too!

Just post your very successful results...if there are any. Then maybe someone will replicate or discuss it with you.

I often enough said: The success till now is not in the strength but that I could generate a model able to foretell results!
The results are consistent with alchemistic theory/HIM theory!
I had to find a correct model, find out about the real ways HIM works, in order to now be able to go REALLY STRONG!
This is what I am actually trying! Find a way to charge stronger than anyone before!!

But you didn't...and now everyone is ignoring you hoping you'll stop spamming the forum with low-quality posts.

One thread with every experiment is not spamming!
And my Kervran thread is not spammed,too, as well as my Lakhovsky/dc pulser thread!
So excuse that I am doing and showing much...others show much theory but NOTHING from where they got it!

Btw, seeds 'might' not be very consistent for side by side experiments if you just use a few or dozen seeds per test.
Each seed is a genetically unique phenotype even when they come from the same parent plant/s

Youre true, thats why i do 5 per experiment, but still so there is variation, ut the big picture over hundresds of experiments is totally clear!!
Also, I just do not know what to use else! I cant do a hydroponics experiment for every experiment when needing such a mass of tests! Even now I am slaving away for months and months!

So you need to use large populations like 100 seeds for each test and control, or even better...clones.
If you can't do that, then only get excited when growth increases by a large amount, like 60%+ more than the control group.

Absolutely! But you can also get excited when the big picture over
hundreds of experiments with 5 seeds is TOTALLY CONSISTANT with your model/HIM theory!
Next Ill do is try to get that much stronger consistently!
But you know I first wanted to find the correct ways of HIM,
the correct model, to be able to really do that!

 

[Widur]

So I skipped to the "strongest experiments" page on post #128...

So it was thought! The eperiments data table is just for reference!
As is the short overview of results till 14.4 and my old testing shedule.
The analysis till May 11 is to look up things or control if the model really fits all experiments results!
Youre totally right to read mainly strongest results, actual model
(complete with what we know, what we suspect and what we want to find out and howlists)
and actual and coming tesing shedule!

(But not only strongest results, it seems you want something to replicate on a silver dish.)

But also I think I made it quite clear:

There it gets interesting:
Next comes my current model and my understanding of HIM,
including a section that addresses what we suspect but don’t yet know for sure,
or where we have various possibilities.

Now here it is, the full presentation of my actual status of the seed charging experiments,
trying to find a way of charging as strong as possible and to understand the way HIM works,
how it moves, reacts to environment and is changed and altered by it.

Ill start out with the full tables of all experiments and results so far.
Followed by an short overview of results till 14.4 and
my old testing shedule for having an even better overview.
Then Ill repost my analysis till May 11, which I made back then.

There it gets interesting:
Next comes my current model and my understanding of HIM,
including a section that addresses what we suspect but don’t yet know for sure,
or where we have various possibilities.

Then we have an overview of the strongest combinations so far,
followed by the shedule for current and upcoming experiments.
Included is a brief list of the points I’d especially like to investigate with them,
with specific details on which of these we intend to prove or test,
using what methods, and how, in the planned experiments.
Next is my plan for how to proceed—which isn’t entirely set in stone yet,
as it also depends on the results of the upcoming experiments.

Experiments and results tables:

First thing on the coming table is the columns headlines/labelling!

 

[Dendritic Xylem]

Doing 5 seed tests hundreds of times is much more time consuming than doing hundreds of seeds tested 5 times
A very easy way to do larger test groups is with trays like this...

You can measure the height of the plants, but what's most important is the weight/mass increase.

It's obvious you're putting in a lot of time and effort into this, which is respectable.
I just think your info is organized in a way which is too time consuming for many of the members to want to sift through.
Very short posts and bullet points 'might' get you more responses than whole pages of raw data and handwritten notes.
Good luck.

 

[Widur]

Doing 5 seed tests hundreds of times is much more time consuming than doing hundreds of seeds tested 5 times

😄Thats right!
But I needed to compare lots of different stuff cause the system and movement of HIM is so complex even in this easy construction!
There are so many variables, even although I tried to keep variables as less as possible!
I mean what did(do) we really know about HIM and his behaviour, is it at oxygen, in water, at the dissolved oxygen in water, is any in air, has it different charges only or also different modes, how does it really behave with mag fields(people thought attract OR pushed back!)
I had to find out if air is good, if movement is good...started with damn basic stuff!
So needed lots of experiments!
Also it showed that Him behaviour is complex!
At some point I became Desperados, so I tried to find out with AI trying to build a 3D model and test lots of different models with different variables to find what fits best!
With Python, what physicists use, too.
But it showed that AI in reality tried to find one that fits anyhow. For what I wanted I needed a better model.
So far AI basically said my model is correct, but its results wasnt to good, I think cause it lacked the aetherized/ manifested variables!
But I didnt push it further, as I think it would maybe just have constructed something on!
Also I was finding a model that fits, so didnt need AI anymore.
Also cause its 3D model wouldnt habe been accurate enough to be really able to simulate properly.
I needed many different stuff to be able to intuitive find the ONE model explaining all experiments!
I mean, come on, how would you otherwise be able to find that complex model of mine??

A very easy way to do larger test groups is with trays like this...

Huh, they do it without earth?
How strong OS their nutrients solution?
Ah, they surely just grow it till seeds energy and nutrients are used up!
Well, interesting, but I really dont have the place for that!!

You can measure the height of the plants, but what's most important is the weight/mass increase.

Maybe interesting for doing versus experiments of the strongest stuff, just 3 or 4 in the garden, lets see.
Thanks.

I just think your info is organized in a way which is too time consuming for many of the members to want to sift through.

That is why I do the summaries of everything now and than.
And announce them.
But its true, most people wont get that far!
Sadly I didnt know this/havent thought of it when I started the thread!
So yeah, presentation is inperfect, but I put as many time in alchemy as its possible, so perfection is not possible.

Very short posts and bullet points 'might' get you more responses than whole pages of raw data and handwritten notes.
Good luck.

As far as I now some folks ARE following the experiments(at least ghetto)!
And the process of understanding the ways of HIM is achieved best by digesting every experiment, so I would recommend to read EVERYTHING, its not really to much to get a real feeling for HIM, if you think about it!
And this is not possible otherwise!

So I hope a model detailed model of HIM should attract some folks and makes them read through some, like, 12 sites text and a few sites of tables (not the results table of all experiments, just for example the last summary).

If you remember how many sites the HIM thread or the spiritus mundi thread is, I have good hope!😎

 

[Widur]

For today there were no tests to do.
So just planting the actual and doing the next days experiments, as theyre 24 hours always.
The last days I did spinning spinner with no air first, then with air bubbled in, quite much in fact.
After that the same with stable spinner.
After going strong with magnets(spinner has 2 neodym),
movement of mag fields, alternating fields and air, so to say going strong with EVERYTHING,
I added something more today I planned a long time: the stir bar.
First I tried the long one of 35m×9:Heres also the actual experiments I mentioned, the N means neodym.
Well, the stir bar was to big and jumping around in the glass, so I took the other one of 20×8mm.
It moves alright, the bar doesnt move the water that strong,
but the whole glass is circling around with its bottom,
in agreement with the spinner mags doing 44 rounds per minute
(not 88 like I said, I counted wrong cause of the 2 mags).
Although, its more pendling from right to left.
Ill link a video soon.

Cause I still did not have the time to build a second spinner,
I wondered if I could not do something other useful with the MEOW in the meantime.
I had an idea I dont know how I could not have before: I switched top and bottom mags to neodym,
redoing the strongest combinations of 3 mags with stronger mags!
For the medium mag I kept the normal one, cause if it was neodym also,
I fear it might crash into the top mag, being to close.
First I tried +++ without air, the only one of strongest experiments without air which has three mags
(the minus for top in the table and stir bar photo is wrong/typo, I corrected it.
Weirdly it was the only combination which also seemed to benefit of more air than less air.
So its kind of a weird combination, which makes it look like having big potential!
Next Ill do the same with air, the air by the way being a bit stronger now since using the spinner
(changed stuff in my air system with is actually belonging
to my greenhouse and just misusing one hose for the charging experiments).

So were going to learn and find out a lot of stuff we just suspect now
and especially I hope we have STRONG results soon!

Also, I reconstructed the double mag and gravity trap so normal tap water goes in and the waste is used for reverse osmosis, not the reverse osmosis waste for the trap. See the thread.

 

[Widur]

Todays tests;
8.07.:29.6.: 23.5+19.5+17+15.5= 75.5 equal 18.875
Charger with +++, air and groundwater as always

8.07.:29.6.: 23.5+22.5+21.5+21+19= 107.5 equal 21.5
MEOW with +++, air and groundwater as always
Analysis: It was the first day with different water from another pump, but at max slightly better, just better than the catastrophic last water.
Well what to say? Quite as expected, it seems +++maybe is not as strong as thought.
I just thought cause it was standing out from the others that with right time of year it would be really strong, but isnt!
There are better ways we tested.
But this fits the model even better!
I thought 3 times plus collects more HIM with less charge, but ithats not true, the HIM gas pressure gwts to high and part is blown of. The positive mag on top is better after negative,making the aetherized HIM go back in water and charging stronger that way, after 2 times plus its not that useful!

For 9.7. I do the same as for today, but with air.
The next days for the MEOW Ill go on repeating the best stuff with neodym for to and bottom mags!

 

[Widur]

Todays tests;
9.07.:30.6.: 18.5+16.5= 35 equal 17.5
Charger with +++, air and groundwater as always, lid closed

9.07.:30.6.: 20.5+19.5+18.5+17.5+17= 93.5 equal 18.7
MEOW with +++, air and groundwater as always, lid closed
So its definetely that with 3 mags combinations, a lid is bad, its only a small difference, but this difference is consistant!

 

[Widur]

Todays tests;
9.07.:30.6.: 18.5+16.5= 35 equal 17.5
Charger with +++, air and groundwater as always, lid closed

9.07.:30.6.: 20.5+19.5+18.5+17.5+17= 93.5 equal 18.7
MEOW with +++, air and groundwater as always, lid closed
So its definetely that with 3 mags combinations, a lid is bad, its only a small difference, but this difference is consistant!

 

[Widur]

I got messed up with the experiments, so Ill redo what I am not sure about.
Probably I just forgot to change experiment yesterday for the charger,
but I did 95 instead of 95 anyway and for safety Ill do it properly.
So Ill restart with 94, till then everything was definetely right!!
Although after rechecking my psts and pics I am quite sure its everything like I wrote up.
But no risk, although I am pissed Ill do it again.
Most confusing was probably there was a typo on the actual experiments shedule, 95 was of course spinning and not stable!

But first todays tests:
10.07.:01.7.: 24.5+22.5+22.5+21.5= 91 equal 22.75
Charger with ++-, air and groundwater as always

10.07.:01.7: ;23.5+23+22+22+18= 108.5 equal 21.7
MEOW with ++-, air and groundwater as always

10.07.:01.7: 20.5 equal
Control in glass like in charger, but in open space, groundwater.
Again ++- with air seems the maybe strongest combination of all!
Fo control it seems normal that theres only 1 plant of medium size or 4-5 plants of slightly sub'medium size! But lets not forget that seeds are maybe HIM magnets and HIM sind of their own, so probably theres an own effect. But also an effect of plant hormones which dont get flown away by the air or damaged by the mags! So maybe seeds are not the best test objects. Especially wheat seeds which have lots of hormones which they give to their neighbours.

Edit 11.07.:
Obviously I am too stupid that late, I stopped smoking and cannabis some weeks ago,
which is a total killer for concentration. I did experiment 95 instead of 94 again, meaning with air insted of without.
But doesnt matter, so its 95 today, 94 for tomorrow, as long as properly documented!

 

[Widur]

Todays tests:
11.07.:02.7.: 24+23.5+22= 69.5 equal 23.166
Charger with xxx, air and groundwater as always

11.07.:02.7: 25+24+21+20+18= 108 equal 21.6
MEOW with xxx, air and groundwater as always

Analysis: I did one with water and air only, cause I only did that once and I wanted
to have a good comparison. Also it was a good option while still getting ready with the summary and new stuff.
But now why that strong results?? Are seeds bad for testing really? I hope not, but thats what it looks like?
God damn!
What should I do? Just charge the water and soak seeds in it? I dont need to test ec and ph really, its quite easy to foretell results as change of cluster size and resulting ec and ph change is a normal physical process!
Damn it.
Have to think about it!
Just for kicks, heres experiment 95.
You can see the movement, as the stir bar is not sharp, and the bottles bottom is unsharp, too, as it swings from right to left/circles around.

Heres the video I promised!
Showing actual experiments, trsting range and equipment: https://drive.proton.me/urls/9QD28F9SE8#x3Nuf9aggoYV

 

[Widur]

Todays tests:
12.07.:03.7.: 25+23+19= 67 equal 22.333
Charger with spinn.(+-)xx, groundwater as always, no air
Just the spining spinner, nothing else.

Analysis: Well, what to get from that?
I think for no airvand just bottom mag it was strongest ever till now.
It seems tomorrows results, same with air, will be alot stronger, maybe strongest ever of all, if my eyes dont fool me!
So were just beginning, no side mag, no top mag, but were already at strongest till now!
My hopes of getting really STRONG with spinner come true it seems!
And were not even at electrolysis, dc pulser, let alone put strong stuff together!
And Ive not even thought of better construction, or shielding.
How far can we push it?
Interesting times were living in!

 

[Widur]

Todays tests:
13.07.:04.7.: 25.5+25.5+22.5+20.5= 94 equal 23.5
Charger with spinn.(+-)xx, groundwater and strong air
No side or top mags, just spinning spinner and air. Like in the video.

Analysis: Not strongest ever like I assumed, but at least place 13, of surely 250 experiments, so not that far from top either.
And consistentvwith yesterdays first spinner experiments.
I guess in some days, with stir bar and air, which we have double luckily, well break the records!
At least when we add top mags! When these show that kind of consistency its also proof of the model!
Also in some days Well see the strongest combinations so far redone with neodym, so there should be a lot of hellish strong stuff soon.
Just a week to go!

 

[Widur]

Todays tests:
14.07.:05.7.: equal
Charger with spinn.(+-)xx, no water, just leak and strong air
No side or top mags, just spinning spinner and air. L
Analysis:

 

[Widur]

Shit I didnt post yesterdays results.
But I noted them down in my notes luckily.

So here again:
14.07.:05.7.: 4 plants equal 20.125
Charger with spinn.(+-)xx, no water, just leak and strong air
No side or top mags, just spinning spinner and air, just leak of water.
I did it cause I had no groundwater and so tried that one, as just leak if air was always surprising strong.

Analysis:
The time result is only normal.
A strong proof for my model!
If results were just cause of magnets breaking down water molecule clusters, and this water, which has higher ec and ph but lower tension, sinking easier in seeds and cells and making reactions easier, + and - would have same effect!
But its obvious that theyre different!
I think here minus pushes HIM away, causing it to fly off!
Plus pulls HIM im, but cause of the minus it cant stay long enough to sink in the seeds in great quantity!
Maybe well test spinner with (++) soon, then well see!

Todays tests:
15.07.:06.7.: 23+21+20+19.5= 83.5 equal 20.875
Charger with stable(+-)xx, groundwater but no air

Analysis:
First experiment with stable spinner.
Just a bit stronger than with just leak of water and stronger air, so no HIM sind, but spinning.
Spinning and also no air was significantly stronger, spinning with air even more, but air brings a lot more movement even when spinning. So it seems charge is coherent with movement, air seems to only bring more HIM if its not also able to take it away!
Without magnets air doesnt seem to make a difference!
But there MUST be HIM in air, cause HIM being moved to and fro is the only senseful model explaining all experiments with top mags and combinations of magnets with or without air.
So without mags theres hardly movement of HIM from air to water or just very slow or just equalizing out!
Were learning a lot, as expected!
I just hope were going strong soon!
If not we just switch to spinning (++), but I expext with top mag this is going strong!

 

[Widur]

Todays tests:
16.07.:07.7.: 23.5+22.5+13.5= 59.5 equal 19.833
Charger with stable(+-)xx, groundwater and air
Analysis:
Weirdly it looks worse than without air, but probably we shouldnt take the 13.5 that important, who knows, maybe it had not grown at all without charging.

It looks tomorrow we have strong results! So look around!

Todays tests:
17.07.:08.7.: 21+18+17+13.5= 69.5 equal 17.375
Charger with spinning(+-)xx, groundwater, no air and the first time a stir bar.
As you can see on the video some posts ago, the whole glass is swinging/circling. So now we got lots of movement of water and of magnets also.
17.07.:08.7.: 20+20+21= 61 equal 20.333
MEOW with +N++N(its +++, just top and bottom are neodym magnets), groundwater, no air.
Analysis:
Oops not half as strong as I thought.
I redid the charger experiment some days later, but I am quite sure it was spinning and had no air.
Just not totally sure.Hmm..only explanation I find is spinning is with+- worse than stable.
Is logical.
The minus drives off what could collect at the plus otherwise.
But what about the MEOW? Are seeds just a bad guinea pig? Whats wrong here?
Ah, I know. Without air only a certain amout of HIM can collect.
Cause the minus poles, which are at the opposite direction , dont allow Him through!
probably the top magnet totally shields of the MEOW.
This would proof I was wrong about rotation in mag field!
Its only pushing and pulling!!
But its sad we dont have strong results getting us real proof!
Its a wonder in itself I can construct a model explaining every experiment, but still!
We need to go strong to proof it! And to make it useful!

After actual shedule Ill try the strongest stuff Ill have found with the spinner till then with ++ and -- at the spinner.
Than well finally know about about amount of movement and about influence of air also,
although we already know it adds and takes HIM, but then well know for absolutely sure, the overall picture will tell us.
The pulser wont be necessary for checking importance of movement of fields,
so Ill probably directly go on to new construction with inlet and outlet, applying the model in much more efficient way!
If I am not damn strong then, Ill add pulser, electrolysis, just bomb the shit with HIM.
Then when weve found a way to charge damn strong, we will look into shielding. So the way becomes clearer every day.
Results dont look that impressive nut the picture becomes clearer and clearer, so Ill manage to charge strong soon. Tomorrows charger is over 21 even now, I hope to get a nice result tomorrow.

 

[Widur]

18.7:09.7.: 24.5+23.5+22.5+20+18
Charger with spinning(+-)xx, groundwater, air stir bar.

18.7.:0.7.: equal of like 16, dont know, most are weirdly ripped through/damaged. I probably accidentally pressed them betwenn two testing peels
MEOW with +N++N(its +++, just top and bottom are neodym magnets), groundwater, air.
Analysis:
Now I dont understand that. Maybe the geometry of the fields keeps the Him out? Dont know.
I need a new Basic construction I think.
This doesnt really work.
HIM cant pass the top mag I think, at least not much.

I have shitty news: I seem to have been wrong about polarity of the small side magnet!
I had the info the side showing to the membrane of speaker was always south(also I used the words plus and minus the wrong way round! North is plus it seems. Did no one ever notice?), but this is wrong. Ill check tomorrow what is what and then well see what it means to the model.