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Hey, i'm thinking about moving to Germany but have no real idea to start.
Anyone live in Germany ? maybe a bit of advice on the best part to live ?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Hey, i'm thinking about moving to Germany but have no real idea to start.
Anyone live in Germany ? maybe a bit of advice on the best part to live ?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Hi,

I live in Berlin.

Do you have a EU passport? Which one, if I may ask?

Actually, I think Germany is one of the easiest countries to relocate to in the EU (IF you have a EU passport!).

You just register your arrival with the citizen authorities (Bürgeramt) at the location of your initial address (best within weeks of arrival), and you get a paper (Anmeldebescheinigung) that makes you legally a resident in Germany, effective immediately. You only need an address, and it can be a temporary one which you can always change later by re-reporting to the Bürgeramt. When you find/rent a more "permanent" place/address, you go again to the Bürgeramt at the new location and report the new address, and you get a new paper. You will need this Anmeldebescheinigung as proof of residence to open a bank account. It's nice if you have some money set aside, as finding a place to rent can be sometimes challenging in the bigger cities. The landlords will usually ask for the last three payslips, but some landlords may also be happy with a fat number in your bank account :)

At some point (the earlier the better), you will also have to register with the German health insurance, which is either the public "legal" one (there is a choice of providers, such as TK) or quite a few private providers, which I personally don't recommend. But it's technically illegal not to have German health insurance as a resident, although no one will come knocking at your door to check.

If you don't speak German at all, make sure you find a friend who does, to accompany you to all official appointments and when signing a rent contract (Mietvertrag), because some rent contracts can have some hidden "catches" in them...

What kind place do you have in mind for relocation? What are you looking for in your next place of residence? City? Village? More traditional? More cosmopolitan? And why would you want to move to Germany, if I may ask?

Forgot to mention, when you first register with the authorities (Bürgeramt) you also get a personal identification number (Persönliche Identifikationsnummer), which is like a German ID number for social, tax and whatever other purposes. Save this number!

I've helped a few people in the past with this process, and I myself have been living in different countries in my life, so I got to become somewhat acquainted with the various bureaucracies in the countries I lived in

This may be a good multilingual resource:


https://www.sympat.me/online-anmeldung-register-germany/
 
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Hey, i'm thinking about moving to Germany but have no real idea to start.
Anyone live in Germany ? maybe a bit of advice on the best part to live ?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I was watching Trench 11, and the german soldier guy said that german food sucks, but the guy was also a bad guy in the movie so lets not take his word for it.

best place to live is downtown; cause of the girls; but ive never been to germany, and i don't know what german girls look like so, best of luck
 

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Hey, i'm thinking about moving to Germany but have no real idea to start.
Anyone live in Germany ? maybe a bit of advice on the best part to live ?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

What country are you in now?

As for best place depends on what you mean. Excellent nature or a vibrant city?

I lived in Frankfurt for a few months. It was alright. Visited Berlin a few times and been all over Germany, but Andro would know better in terms of details.

My advice would be to move to an area that is good train distance to Holland, Denmark and France, that way you have Plan B options.

:p
 

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The state of Mecklenburg-West Pomerania is very cheap at the moment (I heard about hillariously low prices for land and property) and has an interesting landscape. It has some of the most famous tourist spots. The population density is decreasing there (that's why it is so cheap), so it can be "culturally challenging".;)
 

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Do you have a EU passport? Which one, if I may ask?
UK passport

What kind place do you have in mind for relocation?
No idea. I'm practically a ghost. No drivers license, not registered at any GP, not on the electoral register,
No fixed address, no social media presence, no CV, and one old bank account.
I would just live in a cave but you can't really do that in the UK and survive.

And why would you want to move to Germany, if I may ask?
Don't know, trying to start a life somewhere, seemed quite nice.

What country are you in now?
The UK, a country obsessed with baking things.

I want to start a new life, and in the UK its getting hard to do that.
I would love to live off grid like your shamans. Not so easy as one might think.
 

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I would just live in a cave but you can't really do that in the UK and survive.

boy you and me both. come to canada, we got plenty of room!
 

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boy you and me both. come to canada, we got plenty of room!
My ideal would be a cave near a mountain with fresh water springs, not to cold climate so i could work the land.
No taxman knows i exist, no one can push me out of my cave because i didn't hand them enough stacks of paper.
I'll pick fruit, eat bark and nettles if i have to. Free and living everyday, not just at the weekends.
 

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Not sure if the EU or specifically Germany is ideal for living off-grid in a cave like you wish... Maybe check out the area that Florius mentioned? But is gets cold, and not THAT much fruit to pick off the trees...

Why not Mexico/Peru/Ecuador/Colombia/Costa Rica? Why not India or Sri-Lanka? Or any "2nd World" country? Tropical/Equatorial? I heard that hermit cave living is quite culturally acceptable in India.

BTW, in Germany they also like to bake things :)
 

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If you do not mind winter north of Sweden is cheap as fuck. And safe unlike Latin America + no need to learn language. The older I get the more I love nature in the winter time. Off the grid generally easier in corrupt regions i.e. East Europe, Latin America and Africa.

Note: all countries are corrupt, but some in different ways.

:p
 

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Not sure if the EU or specifically Germany is ideal for living off-grid in a cave like you wish.
Just a start really. A change of scene. I thought it was relatively easier to work and live in Germany.
I'd like to visit you, maybe find a path there. I write music, is that easier to earn from it over there?.

Why not India or Sri-Lanka? Or any "2nd World" country? Tropical/Equatorial? I heard that hermit cave living is quite culturally acceptable in India.
Yer you would think. I did.
Its very difficult without guidance you can very easily die.
If you don't know locals have no contacts can't speak Tamil, which is a son of a bitch to learn.
It's very hard.
Finding an authentic hermit who will teach you is difficult.
I really tried, spent thousands.

I had success finding and learning spiritual practices but no viable way of surviving as a hermit there.
It felt like a strange contraction to me, i was quite angry that it logistical was so hard to pull off.
 

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Just a start really. A change of scene. I thought it was relatively easier to work and live in Germany.
I thought you didn't want to "work"... About music... Not sure... Haven't been in the business for some years... And isn't the UK the place to go for making music?
If you have Skype with Audio and Video you can PM me your Skype ID and I'll send you an invite, so we can talk more privately (if you want).
 

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I thought you didn't want to "work"..
Not particularly but i have to. I can't see a radical change to that without some solid stepping stones.
I thought Germany might be one of them.

And isn't the UK the place to go for making music?
Not sure, pub gigging at the mo.

f you have Skype with Audio and Video you can PM me your Skype ID and I'll send you an invite, so we can talk more privately (if you want)
Yer i'm on an ancient pavilion laptop, that's keyboard has shut down, i type with the on screen keyboard. Half the screen is light pink.
I don't know how out of dates all the drivers are, I've got email and can send photos but i'm afraid skye will kill my only computer.
I'l try it,....

If you do not mind winter north of Sweden is cheap as fuck.
How cheap ?. liveable or just getting by ?
 

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If you buy out in nowhere you can get a football field size for 5000 Euro = which is cheap in my book.

Cost of living is not cheap in Sweden, but I figured you wanted to DIY and go off grid and in that case it would be cheap. I mean there is fish and there are blueberries everywhere, and nettles. Also plenty of Amanitas. What else do you need apart from a source of energy?

Although with Brexit not sure you can live in Sweden that easily anymore.

:p
 

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Not particularly but i have to. I can't see a radical change to that without some solid stepping stones.
I thought Germany might be one of them.

A good friend lives in Berlin. He is a musician and somehow well-known in a specific underground scene (though not so underground as to be a type of music that has only 1,000 listesteners worldwide) + He is on tour quite often.
He can't live from his music, even if he has a moderate success... BUT he discovered a job he likes:
He simply knows the music shops of Berlin and purchases Vinyls of "cult-bands" which are sold cheap and sells them through Ebay. According to him, Berlin is a good place to do such thing (though you have to be a melomaniac who knows about music and who is familiar with the cost of the vinyl albums, which editions are rare, etc).
... But if you are a musician, then that is something that you can do and it seems that Berlin is a good place to do it.
 

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asked two guys I game with online, they currently live in Germany, speak it fluently... are German... both of them said the girls there are NOT hot... good luck bro.
 

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asked two guys I game with online, they currently live in Germany, speak it fluently... are German... both of them said the girls there are NOT hot... good luck bro.

This is true from my experience also, HOWEVER considering he currently lives in the UK I must say, from having lived there for over 2 years, that UK girls are not that hot either... quite terrible actually... so he is not going to "trade" down, because ALSO from my experience the German girls have other qualities that are far superior to UK girls... like a brain. LOL.

Speaking in general terms of course, but let's be fair; countries that are English speaking tend to have a lower intelligence when it concerns "culture", the "world" and "perspectives" because they are "lost" in the dominance of "english"... they don't have a natural "alternative" perspective to life, which most other non-native English speaking people have that ALSO have a connection with English culture through media and the dominance of the english language. Meaning that Germans know English and German culture. Italians know Italian and English culture. But English know only English culture. Again generally speaking (usually doesn't apply to the well-travelled or those that have lived abroad).

Although the UK is not as bad in these aspects as the USA, they still fall under the same "self-centered" umbrella i.e. an ugly German is a better partner compared to an ugly English person in this respect. In my opinion. And for transparancy I have partnered with a person that is partially not part of "my own" culture, meaning I have a wider perspective.

That is why patriotism and racism is cultural cannibalism, and we all know what happens when cannibals have babies: they get retards

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Word!

Also, why assume he would want to relocate "for the girls"?

If anything, I think he said something about being more of a hermit.

Are there actually people who relocate just for this reason? If yes, well, you learn something new every day :)
 

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Also, why assume he would want to relocate "for the girls"?

Hermit aside, if instead into men I must say that German MEN are far more attractive than British.

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:p
 

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Thanks for everyones help, but trying now to move to the zhongnan mountains.
Could you just get lost in those mountains ? no visa etc.
You can visit for 6 days without a visa.
Will it kick up a fuss ?, a tourist visa only last so long.
Will the government really care if some westerner wants to live in the mountains as a hermit ?
 

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You can also be a hermit in the UK. And there are mountains in Europe too, if mountains are what you want.

Perhaps start with understanding the true reason you wish to move, as well as the desired attributes of your target destination?

My unsolicited advice is: Don't move FROM, move TO... once you know the WHY :)

Good Luck!
 

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If you want a place to move and live in a 'yurt like structure',

I would happily accommodate any decent person to "rent" ($ free) 1 acre of land to anyone who didn't give me any hassles.

Quite seriously. Aussie Aussie Aussie

I wouldnt call them "mountains" so much as "hills at a high altitude".
 

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Thanks for everyones help, but trying now to move to the zhongnan mountains.
Could you just get lost in those mountains ? no visa etc.
You can visit for 6 days without a visa.
Will it kick up a fuss ?, a tourist visa only last so long.
Will the government really care if some westerner wants to live in the mountains as a hermit ?

Are you wondering if the CHINESE government cares if someone lives there illegally AND not paying taxes? Don’t forget that Americans and British people don’t get much love in most of the world... that’s what happens to the citizens of Empires. I would pick a more UK friendly place.

You’d be a Muslim in Alabama, to give an allegory. Chinese cops would cherish the moment they catch you, and don’t pretend poor Chinese farmers ain’t going to rat you out for a few bucks.

Always break laws in your own culture, the advantages are far superior.

:p