The Real Tincture of Antimony

[Uncle Scrooge]

I've tried several formulations of the tincture of antimony in liquid form via oral intake and felt nothing out of the ordinary.

However, one day (January 6th, 2021) as I was handling some elemental antimony metal, some of the dust got in the air and all over my hands, they were grey by the time I was done handling it.
I must have inhaled some of the fine antimony dust because later in the evening when I went to bed, I woke up with a tremendous cough and lack of air. I was coughing so much I couldn't catch my breath and felt like I was going to die. I had to go outside for a walk to get some fresh cold air so I don't collapse. The fresh air helped out a lot but I could feel the particles of antimony trapped in my lungs and obstructing my breathing. Long and deep breaths helped but my lungs were wheezing. As I breathed heavily it felt like the antimony was dissolving in my lungs and ALL OF A SUDDEN I got a tremendous amount of energy. I was so energized my face became red and I felt like I could run a marathon. I felt like a Roman centurion on steroids and my face changed, I looked like a fearsome Roman centurion ready to ride a chariot and go on to conquer the world. I felt as strong and tireless as a race horse, I was ready to take out an army. This is the best I have ever looked and felt, it was a total transformation.

Then I realized this is how they must have discovered the potency of antimony back in the day. They must have handled it, inadvertently breathed some in, and then BOOM the huge spike in energy and potency a few hours later as it got absorbed by the lungs. I'm at a lack of words to fully describe what happened but I can see why Basil Valentine came up with "The Triumphant Chariot of Antimony" for his book.

So my question is, can a tincture of antimony be prepared to have the same effect as when inhaled? The real tincture of antimony when ingested orally should have the same effect as when inhaled.

 

[Lakshmana]

This sounds rather scary and dangerous but the deep breathing might have mixed the dust with niters/mercurial influence.
If you want to replicate it why not breathe into a large cold flask (without drooling) and mix the condensate with antimony dust. (Don't put the dust into the flask for obvious reasons.)

I don't condone this but since you are asking.

 

[Illen A. Cluf]

I've tried several formulations of the tincture of antimony in liquid form via oral intake and felt nothing out of the ordinary.

However, one day (January 6th, 2021) as I was handling some elemental antimony metal, some of the dust got in the air and all over my hands, they were grey by the time I was done handling it.
I must have inhaled some of the fine antimony dust because later in the evening when I went to bed, I woke up with a tremendous cough and lack of air. I was coughing so much I couldn't catch my breath and felt like I was going to die. I had to go outside for a walk to get some fresh cold air so I don't collapse. The fresh air helped out a lot but I could feel the particles of antimony trapped in my lungs and obstructing my breathing. Long and deep breaths helped but my lungs were wheezing. As I breathed heavily it felt like the antimony was dissolving in my lungs and ALL OF A SUDDEN I got a tremendous amount of energy. I was so energized my face became red and I felt like I could run a marathon. I felt like a Roman centurion on steroids and my face changed, I looked like a fearsome Roman centurion ready to ride a chariot and go on to conquer the world. I felt as strong and tireless as a race horse, I was ready to take out an army. This is the best I have ever looked and felt, it was a total transformation.

Then I realized this is how they must have discovered the potency of antimony back in the day. They must have handled it, inadvertently breathed some in, and then BOOM the huge spike in energy and potency a few hours later as it got absorbed by the lungs. I'm at a lack of words to fully describe what happened but I can see why Basil Valentine came up with "The Triumphant Chariot of Antimony" for his book.

So my question is, can a tincture of antimony be prepared to have the same effect as when inhaled? The real tincture of antimony when ingested orally should have the same effect as when inhaled.

Please don't try antimony in any form. Antimony was just a deckname for the real substance. Valentine would never have named the real substance so explicitly as he appeared to do in his text. We have already mourned one member some years ago who misread the texts.

 

[Hoxmarch]

I've tried several formulations of the tincture of antimony in liquid form via oral intake and felt nothing out of the ordinary.

However, one day (January 6th, 2021) as I was handling some elemental antimony metal, some of the dust got in the air and all over my hands, they were grey by the time I was done handling it.
I must have inhaled some of the fine antimony dust because later in the evening when I went to bed, I woke up with a tremendous cough and lack of air. I was coughing so much I couldn't catch my breath and felt like I was going to die. I had to go outside for a walk to get some fresh cold air so I don't collapse. The fresh air helped out a lot but I could feel the particles of antimony trapped in my lungs and obstructing my breathing. Long and deep breaths helped but my lungs were wheezing. As I breathed heavily it felt like the antimony was dissolving in my lungs and ALL OF A SUDDEN I got a tremendous amount of energy. I was so energized my face became red and I felt like I could run a marathon. I felt like a Roman centurion on steroids and my face changed, I looked like a fearsome Roman centurion ready to ride a chariot and go on to conquer the world. I felt as strong and tireless as a race horse, I was ready to take out an army. This is the best I have ever looked and felt, it was a total transformation.

Then I realized this is how they must have discovered the potency of antimony back in the day. They must have handled it, inadvertently breathed some in, and then BOOM the huge spike in energy and potency a few hours later as it got absorbed by the lungs. I'm at a lack of words to fully describe what happened but I can see why Basil Valentine came up with "The Triumphant Chariot of Antimony" for his book.

So my question is, can a tincture of antimony be prepared to have the same effect as when inhaled? The real tincture of antimony when ingested orally should have the same effect as when inhaled.

Its defenitely not a good idea, but if you are insistent in taking antimony, then the only possible would way I would EVEN consider it would be taking it in a homeopathic solution and in that way you are able to gauge its effect in the safest possible way. But again I do NOT recommend this at all.

 

[elixirmixer]

Why take metallic antimony when you could just extract it's sulfur and take that. Robert Barlett is quiet the endorser if this product claiming to to be a significant blood tonic.

 

[black]

Why take metallic antimony when you could just extract it's sulfur and take that. Robert Barlett is quiet the endorser if this product claiming to to be a significant blood tonic.

A very good point Mr.Mixer.

But Mr. Bartlett and Uncle Scrooge would both need SM (Our Mercury) to be able
to extract the Quintessence (Sulphur) of Antimony.

Then so much more work to obtain the Particular Quintessence of Antimony.

 

[Alkasior]

From what I read from alchemy, all old alchemysts were applying some kind of process to whatever substances they were working with.

They were never ingesting raw and unprepared materials.

As a example, from the metallic realm, they were converting it to a plant realm, and this would be safe for human consumption.

Also, if it was raw metallic antimony dust, I don't think this is safe for the lungs. I'm not a doctor, but as far as i know, any form of metallic dust inhalation is a nono.

Cheers

 

[elixirmixer]

A very good point Mr.Mixer.

But Mr. Bartlett and Uncle Scrooge would both need SM (Our Mercury) to be able
to extract the Quintessence (Sulphur) of Antimony.

Then so much more work to obtain the Particular Quintessence of Antimony.

What is the difference between the Quintessence and the Particular Quintessence?

How does one use SM to extract these?

 

[black]

What is the difference between the Quintessence and the Particular Quintessence?

I have explained this a few times before .... but seeing that you are asking now
we will crank the wheel again.

Quintessence .... or I should say Universal Quintessence is conceived via the
Alchemic Process.

Universal Quintessence is the Red Oil, the Sulphur, the Divine Light Manifest.

This Oil is Living and it is Conscious ... It is born of the Universal Mercury and
it's Equal (Our Two Great Champions).

This Oil is the Greatest of All ... a new born son of Our Alchemic King and Queen.

This Universal Quintessence can be brought forth from any of the Three Realms
and that is the reason it is termed Universal.


A Particular Quintessence can also be found in all Three Realms.

An example of a Particular Quintessence would be Primum Ens Melissa as it

(a Particular Quintessence) carries a Signature (Specific Data / Frequencies) of the
plant and can only be collected via rather involved Alchemic Processes.

You may have noticed that the so called "Primum Ens Melissa" that many espouse
to have collected .... have no resemblance to that Great Primum Ens Melissa that the
most brilliant Paracelsus wrote about.
His Primum Ens Melissa was Alchemic as it should be.


I have mentioned over the years .... Read, read, read and then work in the lab.

How does one use SM to extract these?

That is a much longer story ...........

 

[elixirmixer]

Well yeah I get all that I was more interested is hearing about the involved processes and how these processes differ for a universal essence to a particular one.

So you think there is merit to the oils of antimony or it's a waste of time unless you have the SM?

 

[black]

Well yeah I get all that I was more interested is hearing about the involved processes and how these processes differ for a universal essence to a particular one.

Well yeah I get all that ..... Are you sure, there might be a questionnaire later.

I get the feeling Mr. Mixer that you would like to be given the 6 hour video documentary
of Alchemy A to Z .... also included the 4 hour addition of Alchemic Magic for the most
advanced Adepts of the Great Work.

So you think there is merit to the oils of antimony or it's a waste of time unless you have the SM?

Any Oil / Quintessence extracted from any of the Three Realms has Enormous Merit
as they are Alchemic Oils, Quintessence, Prima Materia, Primum Ens, etc, etc.

But you will firstly need to be in possession of the Universal Quintessence to be able to extract a Particular Quintessence and you will also require SM (Our Mercury) to be able to collect a Universal Quintessence.

Remember that ....... No SM (Our Mercury) = No ALCHEMY.

Unfortunately there is no way around this !!!!!

 

[elixirmixer]

I get the feeling Mr. Mixer that you would like to be given the 6 hour video documentary
of Alchemy A to Z .... also included the 4 hour addition of Alchemic Magic for the most
advanced Adepts of the Great Work.

Any Oil / Quintessence extracted from any of the Three Realms has Enormous Merit
as they are Alchemic Oils, Quintessence, Prima Materia, Primum Ens, etc, etc.

But you will firstly need to be in possession of the Universal Quintessence to be able to extract a Particular Quintessence and you will also require SM (Our Mercury) to be able to collect a Universal Quintessence.

Okay I admit I am fishing for information without having to do the reading. You caught me. I'm very time poor ya know. And just poor.

The laboratory is half way through getting set up at the moment so I guess it's time to take what I've learnt and apply it.

 

[Andro]

Okay I admit I am fishing for information without having to do the reading. You caught me. I'm very time poor ya know. And just poor.

It's been suggested to you to apply yourself to reading countless times before, by many others. Yet, you somehow still seem reluctant to persevere in acting on this. Maybe this time will be different. Or maybe it won't. And don't just read what people post on forums, as some of it may be partial or even complete BS, or downright delusional or deceptive, whether deliberately or not.

Read and re-read the classical authors, compare their works, develop your own understanding. Principles BEFORE lab techniques. I would also suggest to refine your behavior and general conduct, so you can maybe get to meet other practicing alchemists in person one day.

All this perpetual fishing is basically self-sabotage. And the optics are just so bad. Go fish for the Astral Spirit instead.

And if you're poor, read up on the so-called Way of the Poor. I'm sure the AI text analyzer can dig it up.

 

[elixirmixer]

Yes. I can't deny any of that, and this is indeed the time where I gain a solid grounding in the classics. I've compiled a list of them and I'll be going through one by one and I'm also setting up the laboratory.

Changes are in motion.

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Mod Note: Continued HERE.