Patron of the Arts
- Nov 30, 2009
So historically little lines of exchange like in this thread here recently has only served to muddle, obsfucate.and highjack this whereto to the honest seeker who is earnestly searching cannot find an honest and true message, and unlike you doesnt already know it all. Its like the servant of servants said himself I do not come here to call those who think themselves self rightous but those who know that they are sinners. The issue as it has been since the fall of man, is pride, is arrogance. And that dear Sir is why you cannot recognize that true matter of the wise. As i say over and over it is truly a humbling experience the day of the ephiphany and in more ways than one.It's quite obvious you are putting some effort into having a problem. What was it you said about being blinded? So to start, let me correct that for you. You mean "by your own repeated admission". I would hope it's obvious.
I "came in" at the vitriol image and the cube. I had gone back a few pages to try to discern where and how that came up, and again, admittedly abandoned that as it was too specialized for my level of knowledge.
My first reply was meant as a quick aside, not a tangent. I actually feel guilt for leading a topic astray, so I thought 7 times if there was any "added value" to the contribution.
And what's terribly ironic, is that the deciding factor was YOUR last "I'm the specially chosen one with secret info that will save you all" post, which breaks a cardinal rule of the Forums. And literally, the thought process was.. its certainly no worse than that, and if there's no value in it it would be deleted or moved. And MY ego would have felt no ways about it. It was a shot in the dark.
I related the first passage of the thread to "world systems", and that's what it is. It's a description Fulcanelli's world system. I just related the rambling I was doing about the standard greek/kabbalistic world systems. I thought the "controversal" part of that was my claim that I was aware of the originally post when I made that reply. It's kind of uncanny. Did this cease being a Hermetic and Kabbalistic art? It wasn't my intention to seem like I was attempting to "over talk" Fulcanelli.
Although i've had no personal interactions with Andro, his reputation proceeds him. It took me awhile to parse his reply. Not helping matters was I originally read Greg, FFS, or "Greg, FOR FUCK SAKE". LOL! And then.. I'm being grouped with FF, with whom he had a recent interaction that seemed to get a little testy. Was it reflecting the last interaction with Mods I had? Was it rhetorical, an admonishment?
And then once the redness subsided, I chose to respond in the same spirit I did the last time I had to "parse" him. He was playing Al-Khidr/Green Knight, seeing if there was any wheat in the chaff. Well, that's more previous times.
This time I think, knowing that I'm not a practical alchemical, it was more of a challenge to see if I could.
Otherwise, I expect it would have been moved. At the same time, I don't feel I have the status or "audience" to say "hey guys, let's continue this over here in this thread I created" and expect anyone to "follow me".
Honestly, I keep walking away. Flamel just came up. I had to collected the "hill" from both A the J and Hieroglyphics, and there it was in the text. Searched the thread, theres you guys referring to it.
Then again, randomly, Mater came to mind.. Mother, Matter. searching the thread, even with all the goddesses and related stuff, it doesn't seem to have come up. Philo-sophia-ers Matter.
So as I've said, I've been back through different pieces of this thread a bunch of times recently... I don't see how it's specifically about Fulcanelli? I don't see how you can decide that was specifically in terms of the original dwellings excerpt, and not Andro's question?
I know SO little about Fulcanelli that until the last two days, I always assumed that the term "phonetic cabala" was your own creation. I imagine it's to Florius' frustration that I still haven't read Dwellings. I had "collected" it before it ever started coming up in our conversations.. and I STILL haven't cracked it. I usually at least skim through things looking for images, but I haven't even done that. What I do know is that there was no attempt on Fulcanelli's part for there to be confusion between "phonetic cabala" and the Kabbalah. And that he takes it "cabellus". Not to mention that "cabala" took on a general meaning of "secret". And yet, anytime I see anyone ask you questions, making that mistake and asking you for further information, you make not attempt to correct them or set them on the right path.
What I do know, is the "Game". There is a tradition behind Fulcanelli's "Phonetic Cabala", and it is the "Green Language". See, it's not hard to say when people ask. From the french, vert. The term itself is part of the game. It takes on the sense of "closed" from the word "ouvert" for open. Remove the "ou" to close it. Leaves Vert. Green. Also known as the Language of the Birds.
And mater/mother/matter is an excellent example. So there.
P.s. thanks guys.