"The Essene" - An Alchemy Master who lived in modern times

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1 is that him making precious metals?
2 Can ormus be extracted and made into a gold bar?
 

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The Essene's procedure took 7 years, but Don Nance has reported success via ICP-MS analysis after just 6 months of aging.
He made gold and it took seven years you are saying? And Nance did it in 6 months?
 

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He made gold and it took seven years you are saying? And Nance did it in 6 months?
Yes it took 7 years for sheet gold. Nance reported an increase in precious metal concentrations 6 months after the treatment.
 

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Once I found out that The Essene was making and selling gold, I turned into a bloodhound trawling through all the old posts trying to find whatever snippets of evidence I can about how he might have actually done it.
Anyway, I came up with an answer, and here it is...

First just re-stating some clear facts about “The Essene”:
> He had access to a big pile of magnetite black sand which was a tailings pile from a mine.
> He was regularly operating on that black sand to make his “M3” medicine.
> Don Nance was given some of The Essene’s M3, which cured Don’s cancer
(at least that’s what Don believes)
> The Essene later took Don as his student teaching Don how to make M3.
(which is probably why the M3 process is now public knowledge)
> Even though The Essene knew how to make the M3 medicine, he was not in perfect health himself.
(According to Andro, he was blind or near-blind in the later years of his life.)
> The Essene was threatened by gun-toting goons after he returned from a trip to China to sell his gold to a Chinese criminal cartel.
> The Essene claimed that he made a ceramic disc using white powder iridium which experienced gravitational abnormalities and pendulum abnormalities
> The Essene’s job was a mining engineer

And further restating some well understood facts about ormus known within the ormus fraternity:
> There are 2 forms of platinum group metals, 1 form is metallic and the other is a white powder form.
> It is possible to change the metallic form into the white powder form and vice versa.
(It was often said that it is more difficult to convert the white powder form into the metallic form though)
> Only 2 white powder metals are soluble in hydrochloric acid, namely gold and iridium.
And 1 white powder metal is only partially soluble in hydrochloric acid, which is platinum.
(all other white powder metals are insoluble in hydrochloric acid)
> White powder gold boils at 425-600 degrees celcius
> White powder iridium boils at 5400 degrees celcius
The above “facts” were demonstrated early on in the ormus time-line and to my knowledge were never disputed nor refuted by any subsequent researchers.

Deduced facts about The Essene:
> Since he was able to make pure white powder iridium, he was therefore able to make white powder gold mixed with white powder iridium.
(Eg: after precipitate white powders from hydrochloric acid, he would have had both of the white powder metals before the step of boiling off the white powder gold at a lower temperature to be left with white powder iridium on its own).

Things about The Essene highly likley to be true:
> He did not know how to make the classic all encompassing gold alchemy medicine
(due to his declining health in old age, if he knew the ultimate medicine, he’d have used it)
> He did not know the classic alchemy path.
(because he was able to freely teach others his processes, meaning he was not beholden to the standard oaths of secrecy)

Fair assumptions which can be made about The Essene:
> His gold production method was not from a straight transmutation stone as described in classical alchemy.
> His gold production technique was probably due to converting the white powder form of gold into the metallic form of gold as was understood to be possible within the ormus community.

Ironically, the information on how it is possible to convert white powder form to metallic form was already right here on the forum under all our noses.
Vlad wrote about it HERE:

And according to Vlad, it had already been verified by one person when he made that post back in 2009.

So….putting it all together, here’s how I think The Essene was making his gold:
> Perform a lye burn on the black sand from the mine tailings
> Precipitate the ormus white powder metals
> Dissolve the white powder in hydrochloric acid and discard what doesn’t dissolve
> Precipitate the white powder metals back out of hydrochloric acid, then separate out and dry (should be white powder of iridium and gold)
> Mix the dry white powder with sulfur and burn
> Add silver to the white powder and sulfur and melt them all together
> After cooling, place the entire mass in nitric acid to dissolve the silver out (and vapor off remaining sulfur as SO2)
> Remove the remaining solids and put them in aqua regia (this will be gold + iridium metals)
> Remove the remaining solids and melt into a bar (will be iridium metal which doesn’t dissolve in aqua regia)
> Precipitate gold out of the aqua regia, separate it out and melt into a gold bar
> There will probably also be a small amount of platinum dissolved in the remaining solution, which can also precipitate, separate out and melt into a platinum bar.

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For any of this to be true...you'd have to accept the fact that the white powder form of metals is a real thing.
I'm not even sure if I believe it myself, but I'm even more certain that most of you here on the forums certainly don't believe it.
I really only post this as an academic exercise......if white powder metals are true (and if they're found in black sand minerals), then this is how it might have been done.
To be honest, I don't even really believe what I write, and fortunately nobody else believes me either.
Hello,

Why do you suspect that the Essene was dissolving the white powder in hydrochloric acid and discarding what doesn’t dissolve, after the initial precipitation from the lye?
 

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Why do you suspect that the Essene was dissolving the white powder in hydrochloric acid and discarding what doesn’t dissolve, after the initial precipitation from the lye?
Well, at that time, I didn't know for sure that is what his process was.
But it turned out that I was in fact correct that he was using hydrochloric acid following a lye boil/burn.
At that time I thought he was using the hydrochloric acid as a way of deliberately narrowing down his white powder precipitate so it would contain only gold and iridium.
But it turns out that might have been more of a happy accident rather than something deliberate.
Okay, so I don't know for sure that he discards what doesn't dissolve, but it can still be implied.

Someone else asked him the same question that you just did:
[taken from the Christine Emmons document on post #26 of this thread]
The Essene: Right. It hasn't made the cluster yet. When you add the hydroxide one of the sodium atoms breaks down to make the deuterium and then it makes the tie.
K: Now, that happens when you're firing it with the sodium metal and you have that whole complex in the batch, and then you titrate it down, first with the water and then with the acid. Why is the acid in there?
The Essene: The acid takes the oxygen off of the lye solution for just a second. When this happens you have a second reaction where the chlorine takes the sodium. The hydrogen has already scrubbed the oxygen. When this occurs you've got a double chemical reaction going on and now it's stripped clean and it won't re-tie. Now it's a complete individual deal. Then it grabs a deuterium and it makes a cluster and then you see the white cloud form and the cake.
TBH his answer there sounds like BS to me, but since that's what he said at the time, it's probably what he actually believed.

But earlier in the document he said this:
You would take and DIG up the playa, boil it in lye solution, and precipitate it down with any acid. Now, I use HC1 because it turns all the alkali to salt. You wash the salt out, and no matter what, it’s not poisonous. Now there’s only 10 metals that will go into this solution. If you are making gold, the simplest way is to get sweepings from the salt lakes. If all you want is the m-state you don't mess with the sweepings, you just get the playa and boil it in lye and precipitate it with HC1. The neutral range around pH 7 is where it comes out.
Frankly I like that answer better....he initially used hydrochloric acid to neutralise lye because it turns the sodium from lye into plain old salt.
It'd be safe to say that he later made the discovery that continuing to drop the pH with HCl acid also allowed him to separate the gold white powder from less valuable metals like silver et al.

If you're asking this because you're considering replication, and you're not sure about my analysis, then just add a smaller amount of HCl acid to neutralise your lye solution, stop at pH 7.0 and collect whatever precipitate you have and work with that.
It should still be good.
If I'm right, then you'll just end up with a lot of silver in your end product is all, but that shouldn't be a problem.
 
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I should probably take this chance to update this thread with some new information that's come to hand.
Here's what I said earlier in the thread:
So….putting it all together, here’s how I think The Essene was making his gold:
> Perform a lye burn on the black sand from the mine tailings
> Precipitate the ormus white powder metals
> Dissolve the white powder in hydrochloric acid and discard what doesn’t dissolve
> Precipitate the white powder metals back out of hydrochloric acid, then separate out and dry (should be white powder of iridium and gold)
> Mix the dry white powder with sulfur and burn
> Add silver to the white powder and sulfur and melt them all together
> After cooling, place the entire mass in nitric acid to dissolve the silver out (and vapor off remaining sulfur as SO2)
> Remove the remaining solids and put them in aqua regia (this will be gold + iridium metals)
> Remove the remaining solids and melt into a bar (will be iridium metal which doesn’t dissolve in aqua regia)
> Precipitate gold out of the aqua regia, separate it out and melt into a gold bar
> There will probably also be a small amount of platinum dissolved in the remaining solution, which can also precipitate, separate out and melt into a platinum bar.

It turns out that Essene and Hudson were both aware of a vital "secret" ingredient which is necessary for making gold appear.
But they both refrained from publicly disclosing it.
[See THIS post #7, thanks to '@The Grey One' for sharing this VERY PRECIOUS text]
"I remember talking with David Hudson after one of our joint presentations...sometime around 2006.
He mentioned that I had left a key ingredient out of a film that I had made with Joe DeKadt about dropping the Ormes back to metal.
I explained to him that the Essene had asked me to not mention this certain ingredient and I asked him why. He thought that if everyone knew how to make gold metal, then the value of that metal would plummet and drive a large portion of Civilization to ruin.
I agree with him because I know and understand human Nature. So I gave him my word to not make that information public.
We were talking about the documentary "All the Gold You Can Eat". It is one the internet for viewing, but I think Joe DeKadt placed it behind a modest paywall. David Hudson knew what I was leaving out and wanted to inform me in case I did not know about the ingredient.
David is an amazingly knowledgeable and overall great Humanitarian. Yes, I knew what I was not telling, just keeping my word to Larry, the Essene (Lord rest his soul).
And NO, the ingredient that was not to be mentioned was not "S" (sulfur) as I was saying it was in that video...it was a dodge that I decided to put there to lessen the radical greedies from attaining any headway.
So, no. I won't divulge it in front of a camera or in an email. This one of the Secrets that are only passed down by word of mouth"
I did a bit of ghetto analysis, trying to work out what this mystery chemical could possibly be.
IMO it's already well established that the presence of sulfides is key for extracting gold from smelts on magnetite black sand, (although the ore has to be roasted in open air first).
I previously assumend that the magic was simply from sulfur dioxide coming in contact with the HIM portion inside the magnetite [see popcorn theory HERE], this either happens during the roasting itself, or during the smelt, or both.
Technically, sulfur dioxide is not sulfur, but IMO Don's words still imply that there's something else.

My analysis about it was as follows:
I figured it must be a chemical that traditional gold smelters have noticed improves yields.
So I looked it up, and YES there is such a chemical.... it's sodium nitrate or potassium nitrate.
When you add them to a high temperature smelt, they decompose into NO gas.
And I looked in my old ormus notes, and yes it was previously reported that NO gas turns "ormus" to metal.
IMO if Don was talking about a secret chemical for enhancing gold production during burns, then it'd have to be saltpeter.

Or if he is referring to a secret chemical for enhancing gold production from solutions, then it'd have to be citrate ions from either citric acid or iron citrate. [citric acid is known to push out the HIM portion from a solution under vacuum, see HERE. And iron citrate is known by the muggles to increase yields from thiourea leaching solution, see HERE].

IMO, Don was talking about a secret ingredient to add during the burns, so in that case if anyone ever bothers to try the essene process, then it might pay to try adding some saltpeter during the smelting processes. The only caveat is that saltpeter it eats up graphite crucibles very quickly.

I do find it very interesting is that Don used the following sentence:
"And NO, the ingredient that was not to be mentioned was not 'S'"
It's actually implying in a tricky way that the secret ingredient is nitric oxide gas (aka NO).
Is Don really such a clever person to put out the truth hidden in plain sight, or was that just a happy accident?

And one more update.....which has come to light recently.
You might be wise to do the smelting part/s of essene process during the new moon [See HERE, post #50].
 

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I've enjoyed reading this thread, thanks @ghetto alchemist
Magnetite is right up my street. FE2O4 being one reason and the other is the fact I'm quite near a never ending supply on a beach.
In fact, I'm there this weekend and may gather a few pounds with a magnet.
Another interesting factor concerning magnetite is you can convert it to hematite FE2O3 which is kinda cool.
I read years ago that the human brain produces magnetite for some kind of function but can't remember what.
 

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Well, at that time, I didn't know for sure that is what his process was.
But it turned out that I was in fact correct that he was using hydrochloric acid following a lye boil/burn.
At that time I thought he was using the hydrochloric acid as a way of deliberately narrowing down his white powder precipitate so it would contain only gold and iridium.
But it turns out that might have been more of a happy accident rather than something deliberate.
Okay, so I don't know for sure that he discards what doesn't dissolve, but it can still be implied.

Someone else asked him the same question that you just did:
[taken from the Christine Emmons document on post #26 of this thread]

TBH his answer there sounds like BS to me, but since that's what he said at the time, it's probably what he actually believed.

But earlier in the document he said this:

Frankly I like that answer better....he initially used hydrochloric acid to neutralise lye because it turns the sodium from lye into plain old salt.
It'd be safe to say that he later made the discovery that continuing to drop the pH with HCl acid also allowed him to separate the gold white powder from less valuable metals like silver et al.

If you're asking this because you're considering replication, and you're not sure about my analysis, then just add a smaller amount of HCl acid to neutralise your lye solution, stop at pH 7.0 and collect whatever precipitate you have and work with that.
It should still be good.
If I'm right, then you'll just end up with a lot of silver in your end product is all, but that shouldn't be a problem.
I don't see anything there that for sure indicates he goes lower than pH 7.0-8.5. He might call that an overshoot, if someone accidentally went below, and he strictly cautioned against overshooting the pH in the downward direction.
 

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I don't see anything there that for sure indicates he goes lower than pH 7.0-8.5.
Didn't I just say not to go below pH 7.0 if you don't trust my analysis?
 

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I've enjoyed reading this thread, thanks
Nice to hear. Thanks.

I'm quite near a never ending supply on a beach.
In fact, I'm there this weekend and may gather a few pounds with a magnet.
I'm jealous already. I also have a source not far away, but mine is definately not never ending.
Just a tip that if you harvest with a magnet, you get a better yield if you can find it already dry.
But you'll need to re-separate with a magnet at least 1-3 times regardless of whether your first collection is wet or dry.

I read years ago that the human brain produces magnetite for some kind of function but can't remember what.
You're probably thinking of the pineal gland. I've heard it also, but I have no idea whether it's true or not.
 

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I should probably take this chance to update this thread with some new information that's come to hand.
Here's what I said earlier in the thread:


It turns out that Essene and Hudson were both aware of a vital "secret" ingredient which is necessary for making gold appear.
But they both refrained from publicly disclosing it.
[See THIS post #7, thanks to '@The Grey One' for sharing this VERY PRECIOUS text]

I did a bit of ghetto analysis, trying to work out what this mystery chemical could possibly be.
IMO it's already well established that the presence of sulfides is key for extracting gold from smelts on magnetite black sand, (although the ore has to be roasted in open air first).
I previously assumend that the magic was simply from sulfur dioxide coming in contact with the HIM portion inside the magnetite [see popcorn theory HERE], this either happens during the roasting itself, or during the smelt, or both.
Technically, sulfur dioxide is not sulfur, but IMO Don's words still imply that there's something else.

My analysis about it was as follows:

IMO if Don was talking about a secret chemical for enhancing gold production during burns, then it'd have to be saltpeter.

Or if he is referring to a secret chemical for enhancing gold production from solutions, then it'd have to be citrate ions from either citric acid or iron citrate. [citric acid is known to push out the HIM portion from a solution under vacuum, see HERE. And iron citrate is known by the muggles to increase yields from thiourea leaching solution, see HERE].

IMO, Don was talking about a secret ingredient to add during the burns, so in that case if anyone ever bothers to try the essene process, then it might pay to try adding some saltpeter during the smelting processes. The only caveat is that saltpeter it eats up graphite crucibles very quickly.

I do find it very interesting is that Don used the following sentence:
"And NO, the ingredient that was not to be mentioned was not 'S'"
It's actually implying in a tricky way that the secret ingredient is nitric oxide gas (aka NO).
Is Don really such a clever person to put out the truth hidden in plain sight, or was that just a happy accident?

And one more update.....which has come to light recently.
You might be wise to do the smelting part/s of essene process during the new moon [See HERE, post #50].

I'd like to add a bit to this convo but it doesn't relate to Larry but more so to the extraction of Precious Metals from different sources.

In quest to validate some of the overall ORMUS claims, stories, history and people associated I stumbled on this:

Here is a comment from Barry about Sulphates or nitrates:
"ORMUS concentrates from sea water or sea salt have been assayed. None of them appear to have toxic levels of any metals unless they are converted to metal using EMF with sulphates or nitrates. You can see assays linked at:


Here is a Write up from Minerals Engineering 53 2013 266-275 about different "fringe" or unconventional methods for research of extraction of PGE from various sources:


I made some other discoveries in the last few days but i'm compiling them for either my original post or a new post.