The Elixir of Life

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There is a line of text in "The Astrologer and Oracle of Destiny, Vol. 1" (Link HERE) which reads:

The renowned Paracelsus was also one of our fraternity, and it was to him that we are indebted for the elixir of life.

The "elixir of life" in this case refers to the substance which permits people to live well past 100 years of age.
IMO this line comes from an extremely high level source.
So much so that ever since I first saw it, I assumed the following ever since:
> the elixir of life is the thing which is most precious to the rosicrucians (even more than the transmutation stone itself)
> the elixir of life is not the same substance which is used to transmute metals
> it requires a novel process to make it (hence why Paracelsus is so well regarded for discovering it)

At the time, obviously I really wanted to know how to make this, and to know how exactly is it different to the transmutation stone.
But since this is effectively such a deeply guarded secret, I figured that I would likely never know.
Anyway, against all odds I recently stumbled upon THIS text which has left me quite satisfied that I now know the secret, and I'm quite pleased to have the opportunity to share it with all you good people.
In the Book of Dialogues he described the formation of the Blood of the Lion, by dissolving gold in aqua fortis (HNO3) with our salarmoniac or secret salarmoniac (ammonium sulfate, (NH4)2SO4, made from ammonia and sulfuric acid; Glauber said that Paracelsus and Helmont called this the Alkahest, although they kept its nature secret). The resulting yellow solution turns black as ink (the “Head of the Crow”), then into many colors (the “Peacock's Tail”), then blood red (the “Dragon's blood”). The dragon's blood is then treated with white urinus sublimate (NH4Cl) to transmute the dissolved gold and form another blood red liquor (the “Blood of the Lion”). In the Universal Medicine of Gold, the coagulated blood of the lion is converted with the help of his sal mirabile (Na2SO4) to a red stone [which could contain gold sulfate or mixed gold chlorides and sulfates], which is powdered and extracted with alkaline ethanol (spiritus vini alcalisati). The resulting tincture is a famous Aurum Potabile against many diseases, and it coagulates mercury to gold as promised to Sperling.
Upon seeing it, it now all makes perfect sense.
The substance in question is simply Gold sulfate (which of course has to have been heavily vivified with HIM).
Makes sense to me because:
> It would probably absorb quite easily via the acid in the stomache.
> It's a red crystal.
> It was certainly within reach during paracelsus' time.
> It was attributed to paracelsus (in the above text).
> It was a novel discovery, and something truly counter-intuitive

As a further support to this...
We also now know that 2 of the elite's from just after Paracelsus' time have been proven to have large amounts of gold in hair samples taken from their remains.
Diane de Poitiers and Tycho Brahe both died from unexpected un-natural mishaps (a horse riding accident and a burst bladder).
I personally believe that both of these 2 would have qualified for entry into the rosicrucians at that time.

This proves that these elites (IMO also fully indoctrinated rosicrucians) were actually consuming heavy doses of some form of gold containing medicine.
Eg: their precious medicine to extend life was gold in a form which is easy to absorb and not something like fermented piss.

So for me, it's now fully unlocked:
Gold oxide for the transmutation stone.
And Gold sulfate (dissolved in alcohol) for the 'long life' medicine.
[Obviously these both need to be imbibed with massive quantities of HIM in order to work as intended.]

And just to make it clear...
This is only an academic exercise.
I won't be ingesting gold salts and I don't think that you should either.
 
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Yes ghetto, most interesting find ...... now that you are sure that you understand the processes for the Transmutation Stone and the Elixir of Life will you be performing these experiments in your laboratory post haste ? :)

I would also not ingest this Elixir of Life !!! :eek:
 

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now that you are sure that you understand the processes for the Transmutation Stone and the Elixir of Life will you be performing these experiments in your laboratory post haste ?
Just waiting to get my hands on some pure gold.
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Just waiting to get my hands on some pure gold.
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Hey ghetto ...... every Alchemist should have a supply in their lab of "Pure" gold to mix with their "Pure" SM (Spiritus Mundi).

Gold (Au) is easy to get but the price is going up everyday.

$4212.92 AUD / one (1) ounce today.

I think you would get better results with Our Gold .... and is so much cheaper. ;)
 

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Considering this forum is 17 years old I am surprised there isn't a thread dedicated to this topic. We have one that's old about an Elixir of Life symbol and @Salazius Analysis of "The Famous Elixir Of Life", but that's about it.

Maybe we need to follow the White "Rabbit"?

An 18th-century embroidered Chinese emperor's robe:

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The White Hare of the Moon, at the foot of a cassia tree, making elixir of immortality.

We also now know that 2 of the elite's from just after Paracelsus' time have been proven to have large amounts of gold in hair samples taken from their remains.

Tycho owned an observatory, Uraniborg, on the island of Hven, which was opulently adorned with gold and fine decorations.
 

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Yes ghetto, most interesting find ...... now that you are sure that you understand the processes for the Transmutation Stone and the Elixir of Life will you be performing these experiments in your laboratory post haste ? :)

I would also not ingest this Elixir of Life !!! :eek:
Why wouldn't you want to ingest the Elixir of Life?
 

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So for me, it's now fully unlocked:
Gold oxide for the transmutation stone.
And Gold sulfate (dissolved in alcohol) for the 'long life' medicine.
[Obviously these both need to be imbibed with massive quantities of HIM in order to work as intended.]

Interesting hypothesis. It makes logical sense: if gold is indestructible, and you put it into a form able to be consumed by humans for sustenance, then inherently you will become like gold.
 

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Why wouldn't you want to ingest the Elixir of Life?

Hi tAIc .... I would not ingest the Elixir of Life made from ghetto's recipe .... but I would ingest the genuine Alchemic Elixir of Life. :)
 

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I would ingest the genuine Alchemic Elixir of Life.
You should put the receipe for this "genuine" elixir of life that you speak of, right here in this thread.
The thread is aiming for a description of how to make the elixir of life.
It was never meant to be only about my suggestion of what the elixir of life might actually be.

Why wouldn't you want to ingest the Elixir of Life?
I don't want to be a guinea pig, nor do I want anyone else to be.
Also, I'm sure that if someone else tried to make this, they'd probably stuff up the core requirement by not imbibing with any/enough HIM.

It makes logical sense: if gold is indestructible, and you put it into a form able to be consumed by humans for sustenance, then inherently you will become like gold.
I've wondered for the logical explanation for a long time.
The best I could come up with, was that perhaps strongly HIM energised gold (aka white powder gold) is an essential ingredient for cells to live for maximum amount of time...but that perhaps this substance doesn't exist anywhere in nature, hence why we can never absorb it from our foods.
And hence why it has such an amazing effect on the body after being artificially created by the alchemist.

If true....then it's such an irony in life....that the one nutrient our body truly needs is essentially the same thing that we all wear on the outside of our body, lifetime after lifetime constantly dying unnecessarily young, and yet with no idea of the fact that life can be so easily prolonged by the gold jewellery that we so nonchalantly use to adorn our bodies with.

I did read somewhere that it was possible that if the cell aging process could be deactivated then our neurons should be able to continue functioning for hundreds of years, which I thought was interesting that it's the same numbers that were described by the olde alchemy texts.
[Neurons never regenerate, you only ever make one set which lasts your lifetime.
Once they degenerate/die, you die.]
 
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Long time since I looked into it, but wasn't the answer to repair or replace telomeres?


Or maybe harness this process somehow:

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You should put the receipe for this "genuine" elixir of life that you speak of, right here in this thread.
The thread is aiming for a description of how to make the elixir of life.
It was never meant to be only about my suggestion of what the elixir of life might actually be.


I don't want to be a guinea pig, nor do I want anyone else to be.
Also, I'm sure that if someone else tried to make this, they'd probably stuff up the core requirement by not imbibing with any/enough HIM.


I've wondered for the logical explanation for a long time.
The best I could come up with, was that perhaps strongly HIM energised gold (aka white powder gold) is an essential ingredient for cells to live for maximum amount of time...but that perhaps this substance doesn't exist anywhere in nature, hence why we can never absorb it from our foods.
And hence why it has such an amazing effect on the body after being artificially created by the alchemist.

If true....then it's such an irony in life....that the one nutrient our body truly needs is essentially the same thing that we all wear on the outside of our body, lifetime after lifetime constantly dying unnecessarily young, and yet with no idea of the fact that life can be so easily prolonged by the gold jewellery that we so nonchalantly use to adorn our bodies with.

I did read somewhere that it was possible that if the cell aging process could be deactivated then our neurons should be able to continue functioning for hundreds of years, which I thought was interesting that it's the same numbers that were described by the olde alchemy texts.
[Neurons never regenerate, you only ever make one set which lasts your lifetime.
Once they degenerate/die, you die.]
What do you mean when you say ''by not imbibing with any/enough HIM''?
There are Three Kingdoms correct?
Animals, Vegetables, Minerals.

All of these kingdoms contain the Universal Fire. Is it the Universal Fire you are referring to when you say ''HIM''?
 

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Is it the Universal Fire you are referring to when you say ''HIM''?
That's right. I just gave it a new name in english is all.
[IMO 'HIM' (or TA) is the old secret name in ancient chinese daoism]

And yes, the life force can be found in all 3 kingdoms, but IMO in the mineral kingdom it's only strong in volcanic rock/dirt/clay and limestone.
 

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The best I could come up with, was that perhaps strongly HIM energised gold (aka white powder gold) is an essential ingredient for cells to live for maximum amount of time...but that perhaps this substance doesn't exist anywhere in nature, hence why we can never absorb it from our foods.
I came across a new idea recently....that maybe another reason the vivified gold medicine is king is simply because of "connection".

Hi-fi audiophiles for many years insist on using gold plated cables because they believe that it causes better electrical conduction and a much better signal with no noise.
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IMO, this is a beautiful metaphor for the soul connecting to the human body.

Maybe "gold plated contacts" in our nervous system cells gives a perfect connection for our soul linking to them.

It certainly might help explain Jerel's testimony that after consuming the red gold medicine, he telepathically communicated with higher level being/s during sleep and never lost consciousness during sleep ever again.
[Sergio also said something similar about being able to talk with higher level entity during the first sleep after consuming the medicine]
 
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Hi-fi audiophiles for many years insist on using gold plated cables because they believe that it causes better electrical conduction and a much better signal with no noise.

Never bought into this concept myself, just seems like a marketing gimmick to be able to charge more money for what is basically a cheap item. Figure this, if the end connectors are gold plated then what of the actual cable material itself?!! Surely the entire cable would need to be gold plated no? The cable metal is the largest part of the whole item so if it's cheap metal then what differernce can the end connectors make?

It certainly might help explain Jerel's testimony that after consuming the red gold medicine, he telepathically communicated with higher level being/s during sleep and never lost consciousness during sleep ever again.

What is sleep if not the temporary loss of consciousness? If you are conscious then surely it's no longer sleep but rather just inactivity?
 

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What is sleep if not the temporary loss of consciousness? If you are conscious then surely it's no longer sleep but rather just inactivity?
In this case, only the body is asleep. The mind is not.

I've been experiencing this state since a relatively young age, and later went for a week of specialized training at the Monroe Institute.

This state allows access to fields not normally accessible in the "physical waking" state.

 

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In this case, only the body is asleep. The mind is not.

The body doesn't really sleep as such. It simply becomes less active, has less demands placed upon it and so adjusts life support systems accordingly, i.e. lower heart rate, shallower breathing and so on. It's still doing all the things it always does unless you can highlight something you know it doesn't do when "asleep".

I have for many years spent my mornings before actually waking up, being in a lucid dream state. i.e. When I go to sleep at night I go through the standard sleep states, REM, deep sleep etc. But by the early hours of the morning my mind enters a state where I am creating and controlling the dreams and visions I am having in my mind. I am aware of being in the dream and I have abilities in that state that I dont in waking life. For example an ability I have always in that state is to be able to float above the ground and move around even if I am sat in a chair (in the dream), I can start levitating off the ground in the chair itself and go gently flying around. It's always low level levitation and movementno more than house top or tree top height and it's never fast, never whizzing around like superman. It feels wholly natural at the time, like an inherent human ability.
 

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Never bought into this concept myself, just seems like a marketing gimmick to be able to charge more money for what is basically a cheap item. Figure this, if the end connectors are gold plated then what of the actual cable material itself?!! Surely the entire cable would need to be gold plated no? The cable metal is the largest part of the whole item so if it's cheap metal then what differernce can the end connectors make?



What is sleep if not the temporary loss of consciousness? If you are conscious then surely it's no longer sleep but rather just inactivity?
The connectors where one surface meets another is the important part.

If you look at motherboard memory sockets for example, the memory stick electrical connectors (pins) are always gold plated. Why?
Because copper when exposed to air tarnishes as does silver as does aluminum. Copper goes green, silver goes black and ally goes white with oxides. As time progresses, the oxides creep along the surfaces and cause poor electrical conductivity or become none conductive.

Copper, silver and ally are the best conductors by far and they are needed in electronics/electrical installations for efficiency. When copper wire is under the protective cover of the outside insulation it doesn't tarnish because its not exposed to air so it isn't a problem in that respect. However, when the connectors are exposed to air, it becomes an issue so they simply gold plate all exposed parts. Gold doesn't tarnish.
 

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The "elixir of life" in this case refers to the substance which permits people to live well past 100 years of age.
Just in case I get struck down by a bolt of lightning for revealing god's secrets...(as some might think I deserve..lol)...
I figured that I should take the time to update the thread and say that IMO I finally discovered "the elixir of life".

My version is simply a gas that you inhale [see HERE] it doesn't require the ingestion of any potentially toxic substances.
Which is very fortunate, because I said earlier:
I won't be ingesting gold salts and I don't think that you should either.
So it turns out that it's probably not necessary to ingest gold in any form.
[EDIT: for anyone that insists on a gold containing medicine, then IMO it'd be fairly innocuous to use the seekverta colloidal gold receipe HERE and you could make the colloidal solution with salt water which was pre-loaded with the magic gas (as described by Vladimirv HERE).]

Recently I'm filled with an amazing sense of wonderment and gratitude about knowing this information in this lifetime.
And because I learned it off my own back, so generously guided and helped by so many amazing people who gave out their research and discoveries for free, it means I'm not beholden to anyone by any vows of secrecy.
Which in turn means that I can openly share what I've learned with all of you good people (which I do).

Unfortunately for you folks, I'm currently in my early 50's.....so it'll be quite some time before I can report that this elixir can make me live past 100, which I suppose is the ultimate test to see if ghetto's shit is any good or not.
Only 50 years to wait.. :D
 
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