The Dry Path

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Recently I said in this forum that I wished for Scrooge to release his Dry Path analysis.
Later I realised what kind of person am I to ask from another what I haven't given myself, so here's my take on the same.

I already wrote a bit about what I believe is the “secret sauce” of alchemy in the HIM thread.
But I'll quickly summarise here.
IMO there is a special particle, probably undiscovered by science, which I refer to as the gaia particle (there's a possibility the gaia particle is what science calls the neutrino).
The gaia particle is usually attached to the proton on the nucleus of light hydrogen atoms.
It carries torsion charge by having a capability to spin.
It's antagonistic to neutrons, therefore only ever found in light hydrogen (not deuterium or tritium).
It's probably also the “glue” which holds a proton and electron together in a neutron.
Ions in salt/s are somehow able to hold on to gaia particles.
And it's capability to spin creates a link into higher dimensions, which makes life possible and seemingly creates energy from nothing etc.

So based on all that, my analysis of the wet method is:
- convert a water source with low concentration gaia particles into a solvent which is saturated with them.
- dissolve a metal oxide salt into the created solvent.
- slowly evaporate off the solvent using mild warmth plus low pressure
- redissolve the salt with new solvent and re-evaporate again. Repeat many times.


Seems easy enough in principle, but it's pretty difficult to collect the right sort of water.
Then you have to dick around with concentrating it, which isn't easy, and requires special equipment and chemicals.
Then you have to make your metal oxide, again requiring a bit of mucking around.
Finally conduct the slow dissolutions and cohobations.
Basically...simple in concept, but a bit long and tedious in practice.

Then there's this other “dry” way which is occasionally talked about, where the process is supposed to be completed in hours instead of months.
Why would anyone bother with the “wet” way when there is a much simpler and faster method available?
And why do so few adepts even seem to have known it?
It's like a matroska doll...multiple layers of secrecy.

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At first glance, the dry path seems impossible.
If the spirit of life, aka HIM usually manifests in water and air, then how can a high heat process possibly work?
You'll quickly lose your Gaia particles to evaporation and driven away from low humidity as soon as the temperature starts to rise.

Scrooge claims that he actually knows how to do the dry path.

He also gave a couple of hints such as putting pics of gold mixed with various molten salts after being furnaced at high temps.

IMO Gaia particles will cling to salt/s, so the dry way must simply be using a vivified salt which is in a molten state.
And when considering possible salts to use, saltpeter stands way above the rest.
When heated above it's melting point, saltpeter decomposes to gases, one of which is oxygen, which is a requirement for the wet way in the form of a metal oxide salt.

The text “Abraham the Jew”, discusses the dry path, and early in the text, when talking of a Marsz/magnet/salt it states:

Pour again a fresh warm Water thereon, after 24 hours let it again run off. In the same manner proceed also with the remaining Marcz; and then pour such clean Water into a copper kettle, till it be quite full, and lay on such three parts and seethe down; pour the kettle, seethe it down again, till on the third part, and thus continue 10 or 12 times, when now at last all is seethed down, and the third part is yet in the kettle, so pour in another clean kettle, set it into cold sand some days so will a Salt crystallize. This take thereout and preserve well in a clean vessel, the remaining leave again to boil down to the half, set it down again and let it crystallize till all is crystallized; then continue. On this Salt pour clean dew, in order that it will dissolve. Then filter it and coagulate it so often, till it is pure and crystallized and prepared, so have you the right Salt Marcz, which in the Sea of the World hovers and is concealed, without which nothing can be engendered and born, and also have you the fruit bringing Salt and the prima Materialis Universal Marcz prepared and primam materiam of the old Wine.
IMO, this is very clearly describing a process to extract and purify saltpeter from the earth.

Since saltpeter isn't needed for the wet path, it's a pretty safe conclusion that it's described because it's a necessary ingredient for the dry way.

Later on in Abraham the Jew, it says this:

Dear brethren, in order that before you accomplish this secret work and also have food and nourishment; so will I teach you some small primitive work which in all places you can do.

Take melted Almusater Alatren, have it and Celuvialatel, rub it amongst each other, put it in a strong stone vessel, and sublimate up again, and repeat for the third time, and so you get a Gold Sublimate, which you shall also require, let 32 shekels heavy of the pure Copper Metal, in a strong Earthen Vessel prepare, let this flow in a strong Fire, when flowing thin, add the fat sublimate 4 shekels heavy to it, let it flow one hour, then pour it out, so have you the great Secret thereby to accomplish a living.

Yet must you remember this necessary manipulation, when you have a right fat Marcz, and with dew or Water Grandi extrahiret so now you boil such down, so expert that in it a Salt can crystallize, and on account of the great fatness and fat viscosity of this Salt. When you see this, so let it safely evaporate to a thick liquor. This liquor is far better than the crystals. With such you can go to work, that you mix therewith so much of its own thoroughly heated and lixiviated Earth, and then distill over, as has been taught, and so you get at once so much of this Volatile Spirit.

The fixed salt remains behind, which can be lixiviated and goes in the work as said before.

Guard yourself however that these Secrets come not into your enemies hands.

The book is quite lengthy, about 90 pages. I suspect most of it is filled with red herrings to trap the unworthy though, because IMO the very short text I just quoted above describes:

- how to do the dry path
- how to perform a transmutation
- how to vivify the Marcz/salt (the crucial ingredient)
- reminding that this information should never come into the hands of their enemies (E.g.: you and me).


Even though short, it's an incredibly descriptive portion of text.
For example, it says that you need to keep the copper metal in a molten state for 1 hour after adding the projection powder in order to complete the transmutation.
It also says we don't need to totally dry the salt when boiling down each time, it can just go down to a thick syryp before repeating.
It's not perfectly clear, but it also appears to me that the text is saying you can just use metallic gold to make the transmutation stone when doing this method.
This is surprising because you can't go straight to a gold projection stone using the wet method.
(The old timers couldn't make gold oxide salt with early technology).

Therefore, based on the book of Abraham the Jew (and Scrooge), here's my analysis of the dry path:
- Imbibe saltpeter with HIM through multiple boildowns.
- File the target metal into filings (perhaps you could also use a metal oxide powder).
- Mix saltpeter with metal filings in a crucible (
Scrooge says use a sealed crucible)
- Put it in a furnace and ramp it, first to melt the saltpeter and hold for a while, then heat really high to decompose the saltpeter into gas (900+ Celsius)
- open crucible, add more vivified saltpeter, and reheat. Repeat several times.

[you'll need to vent the exhaust from the furnace through a carbon filter to scrub any nitric oxide gases.]

There's still a bit of dicking around with imbibing your salt and making your metal filings, but...much faster and easier than the wet way.

If you ever try it, then just be careful with the output gas because it's probably gonna be toxic.
In fact, I do recall reading somewhere that the dry path has some danger, that's probably it.
 

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Nice work GA.

I don't know the dry path, and as you know I'm giving my first steps into the art. So to me, this is a lot of information to digest.

But nevertheless, I wanted to thank you for your sharing and posts.

Now: Who is going to give this a shot? :D

I would, but I don't have the equipment or conditions in the city.
 

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Christophorus said:
So to me, this is a lot of information to digest.
I neglected to say that if saltpeter isn't the correct salt, then perhaps something like potassium carbonate or sodium carbonate might be a worth a try.
If you check the 2 scrooge posts which I linked to, you'll see he was melting salts in June, and claimed success in September, only 3 months later.
Wasn't a lot of time for him to be doing much else other than melting different salts and then tweaking variables once he found the right one.

Christophorus said:
But nevertheless, I wanted to thank you for your sharing and posts.
Thanks, that means a lot from someone like yourself.
I also want to offer my thanks to Scrooge for his contributions and sharing.
If you're reading Scrooge, then I really appreciate that you so freely gave out so much highly valuable information.

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Who is going to give this a shot? I would, but I don't have the equipment or conditions in the city.
Looks like you've just added an electric furnace to your lab equipment wish list.
If the high prices are scaring you away, you should take a look on the second hand market.
It turns out that I do have one. I bought a really cheap busted one and then fixed it (ghetto style).
Once I get around to trying this, then I'll definitely let the forum know if it DOESN'T work.
I seriously doubt anyone will ever publicly announce that it does.
 

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Then you have to dick around with concentrating it, which isn't easy, and requires special equipment and chemicals.
Why/how would one use chemicals to concentrate it?

Then you have to make your metal oxide, again requiring a bit of mucking around.
Why a metal oxide, specifically? Because supposed affinity with "HIM" particles?

Why not sulfates (vitriols) or sulfides (i.e. Pyrite/Marcasite), like some texts are hinting at?

Abe mentions "Marcz". This may be a hint towards Marcasite, but Abraham the "Jew" might as well have used the word "Marcz" in its more Kabbalistic sense, i.e. "Center".
 

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Why/how would one use chemicals to concentrate it?

Why a metal oxide, specifically? Because supposed affinity with "HIM" particles?

Why not sulfates (vitriols) or sulfides (i.e. Pyrite/Marcasite), like some texts are hinting at?

I’ll put up a detailed post soon about the concentration method, including chemicals needed.

Yes, you need metal oxide because of oxygen’s high affinity with HIM.
Namely, Oxygen induces a higher torsion spin on on HIM.
Sulfur does the exact opposite, in fact if you want to make loads of strange radiation/DOR just add Sulfur to HIM and give it high heat.
Ask me how do I know this :(

IMO there’s 2 reasons we see heavy mention of Sulfur in the old texts.
First is that for the old timers, the path to ether was Sulfur -> vitriol -> oil of vitriol -> sweet oil of vitriol.
Even though we know ether contains no Sulfur, the old timers all thought of it as being a Sulfur compound.

Second is that it’s a relatively straightforward path to metal oxide by going through a sulfide.
Eg: if you want silver oxide....react silver and sulfur to get silver sulfide, then roast the silver sulfide to make silver oxide.
Some sulfide minerals can be roasted straight from the mine to make the oxide.
 
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OK I've done a couple of runs with this, so I can now share some experience.
The saltpeter breaks down and totally disappears each time (as long as not use too much).

It turns out that metallic gold and silver have this amazing property, when molten, they absorb and internally dissolve oxygen gas, and then eject it again when re-solidifying.

It's called perocity, and it's the bane of all metal casters.

Anyway, here's what happens:

- the enlivened saltpeter breaks down into oxygen (and inert nitrogen).
- the molten metal absorbs the oxygen and presumably also the Gaia particles.
- then the furnace cools down again
- the metal solidifies and ejects the oxygen gas but hopefully keeps the Gaia particles inside.
- on each repetition, in theory you’ll keep adding more Gaia particles into the metal matrix.

You don't even need an expensive furnace to try it.
You can melt silver at 960 Celsius, which is achievable in a microwave oven.
Just make one of these:


Here's some tips:

- Use metallic silver shot (or gold shot), don't need the metal oxide after all.
- You need to use a crucible with a lid/cover, but not gas tight. (as Scrooge said)
- You need a small volume crucible to keep the emitted oxygen close to the metal.
- Just use small amounts of saltpeter each time. Don't get impatient and overload it.
- make sure to first prep your saltpeter as described HERE with multiple boil-downs.
- I said in OP that I thought you should ramp the temp, but you don't need to.
 

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On each repetition, in theory you’ll keep adding more gaia particles into the metal matrix.

And the goal is presumably to repeat until the gaia-charged metal becomes the Stone of the Dry Path?
 

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And the goal is presumably to repeat until the Gaia-charged metal becomes the Stone of the Dry Path?
Exactly.

Scrooge says that if keep going, it'll change.

Scrooge said:
[source here]
My way takes 9 multiplications, at the end of the 9th it starts to glow.
But even if it doesn't end up glowing, Helvetius says even a metallic form can induce transmutation.

HELVETIUS: [Source here]
we betook ourselves to the house of a certain silversmith, named Brechtil, who submitted a small piece of my gold to the test called "the fourth": .... afterwards we found that …., two scruples of the silver had undergone a change into gold.

Then we tried another test, viz., that which is performed by means of a septuple of Antimony; …. afterwards, not only had two scruples of the silver been converted into gold, but the silver itself was greatly improved both in quality and malleability.
 

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Then you have to dick around with concentrating it, which isn't easy, and requires special equipment and chemicals.
Hey, which types of chemicals would you reckon are better suited for further concentrating HIM?

The HIM model definitely holds water IMO, but which chemicals/substances would you say it holds even better? ;)
 

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The HIM model definitely holds water IMO, but which chemicals/substances would you say it holds even better? ;)
I think we're probably mostly on the same page RE understanding the properties of HIM, so this answer is probably more for other readers.
But please let me know if you see it differently....
Yeah...water definately holds HIM, but it looks like high strength water sources such as spring water / ground water lose their magic to the surrounding air fairly quickly, so I'd say that it's not a particularly strong hold.

As for which substances are better....I think it's pretty obvious that alcohol holds on to HIM stronger than water does.
So IMO all substances which contain an internal positive charge will be a goer. Eg: ionic salts and polar solvents.
which types of chemicals would you reckon are better suited for further concentrating HIM?
IMO for concentrating HIM, ideally we need a solvent that holds HIM but very weakly and is subsequently able to easily release the HIM portion when the solvent is added to another substance.

A bit like giving someone a sponge bath.
A sponge which barely holds water will work far better than a super absorbent one.

IMO the best choices are solvents which are only very weakly polar.
For me di-ethyl ether still looks like the best one.
 

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Yeah...water definately holds HIM, but it looks like high strength water sources such as spring water / ground water lose their magic to the surrounding air fairly quickly, so I'd say that it's not a particularly strong hold.

Rubbing that statement up against Nav's information regarding Ozone and Singlet Oxygen, the two would seem to be in harmony imo. Ozonated water only lasts a number of minutes before it escapes into the air and bonds with other molecules, becoming O2. We also have the old texts telling us about collection of dew during moonlit nights and the need to keep the collected material away from sunlight and so on. All points to Nav's explanation of Ozone/Singlet Oxygen.


As for which substances are better....I think it's pretty obvious that alcohol holds on to HIM stronger than water does.
So IMO all substances which contain an internal positive charge will be a goer. Eg: ionic salts and polar solvents.

If we run with Nav's Ozone track then after a bit of research we find that indeed water isn't the best substance in which to try and put and hold ozone. It turns out that "organic solvents" are far better at holding ozone than water. The most widely known organic solvent that is actually edible/drinkable is Ethanol. See this PDF:


"Inspection of the data listed in Table 1 leads to a conclusion that under the same physical conditions (temperature and ozone partial pressure) ozone solubility in organic solvents is much higher than that in water"

"Among the liquids that seem to be of special interest for practical applications are fluorocarbons (FC) or polydimethylsiloxanes (Volasil), which exhibit high solubility for both oxygen and ozone at room temperatures"


I suggest it would be worthwhile bubbling Ozone through some ethanol and see if this concentrates what you like to call HIM. At this stage it starts to look like Singlet Oxygen is actually HIM, but I could be wrong.


IMO for concentrating HIM, ideally we need a solvent that holds HIM but very weakly and is subsequently able to easily release the HIM portion when the solvent is added to another substance.

I presume Ethanol would fit the bill
 

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Eg: ionic salts and polar solvents.
I would say, for HIM concentration, more polar = more better.

Not sure about the Ozone/periodic table thing. I see "HIM" as a more "hidden" force, not recognized by currently accepted models, and for which common chemicals only serve as a cover/container, but are not "it".
 

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I would say, for HIM concentration, more polar = more better.

Not sure about the Ozone/periodic table thing. I see "HIM" as a more "hidden" force, not recognized by currently accepted models, and for which common chemicals only serve as a cover/container, but are not "it".
Ozone is supposed to be a blue gas, this color reminds me of highly charged angelic water. Alchemy is slowly making sense to me, the years of study have paid off 😁
 

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I would say, for HIM concentration, more polar = more better.
As long as the more polar substance is the final intended destination for HIM, then I agree.
Not sure about the Ozone/periodic table thing. I see "HIM" as a more "hidden" force, not recognized by currently accepted models, and for which common chemicals only serve as a cover/container, but are not "it".
Absolutely correct.
Ozone is supposed to be a blue gas, this color reminds me of highly charged angelic water.
Where have you seen, or heard about, this "highly charged angelic water"?

Orgone energy researchers also reported the blue color wherever there's high concentrations of orgone.
 

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I presume Ethanol would fit the bill
I also used to think that ethanol was a good solvent for alchemy.

But now though, as I said in the last post, a strong polar charge is only good if that substance is the final intended destination for the HIM portion.
Eg: if you're making a medicine from the plant world or a homeopathic remedy, then alcohol is an excellent choice because it'll hold on to the HIM indefinately.

But if you want a solvent which will move HIM into another substance, (such as charging up a projection powder) then I found that ethanol's hold is so strong that it will evaporate off taking the entire HIM portion with it.
This also explains why people who consume large amounts of alcohol run into major health issues over the long term.
The way I see it, the booze absorbs a massive portion of their life force, then a small amount evaporates from the pores of their skin taking their precious life force with it.
Meanwhile their poor liver is constantly in overdrive trying to metabolise as much of the alcohol as possible in order to re-acquire the body's stolen life force.

I also see this as the reason why small amounts of alcohol with high HIM concentration are beneficial for health....Eg: wine produced from grapes grown in volcanic soil fed by limestone spring water.
IMO the liver metabolises the small alcohol content and receives a massive boost of life force in the process, which is what I believe to be the secret sauce behind the health and longevity of people in blue zones such as Sardinia.
 

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wine produced from grapes grown in volcanic soil fed by limestone spring water.
IMO the liver metabolises the small alcohol content and receives a massive boost of life force in the process, which is what I believe to be the secret sauce behind the health and longevity of people in blue zones such as Sardinia.

I can buy that. Silicates are big components of volcanic soil, and are shown to be magnets for O3. Possibly also for ORMUS.

I’m reminded of this thought provoking talk which inspired the purchase of some Azomite:


An experiment focusing on a single Silicate (Quartz would be my pick) would seem to be interesting.

For biological purposes, Nav’s been sharing some interesting suggestions as well. Magnesium & Phosphorus, for example.
 

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Eg: if you're making a medicine from the plant world or a homeopathic remedy, then alcohol is an excellent choice because it'll hold on to the HIM indefinately.

But if you want a solvent which will move HIM into another substance, (such as charging up a projection powder) then I found that ethanol's hold is so strong that it will evaporate off taking the entire HIM portion with it.

Just so I'm clear here. Is your aim to create a substance loaded with HIM which you can then ingest (as medicine)? If so presumably you need something in the body to be able to pull the HIM from the medicine. What use is a plant medicine that holds on to the HIM indefinitely? Do you believe that a source of HIM that is fixed in something else will heal the body even though the HIM stays in that something else?
 

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Is your aim to create a substance loaded with HIM which you can then ingest (as medicine)?
Since this thread is about the dry path, then, no, in the context of this conversation that is not the aim....
But....it might be an aim for other people following other processes in other threads.
If so presumably you need something in the body to be able to pull the HIM from the medicine.
Aren't our bodies already perfectly adapted to extract life force (aka HIM) from our food and drink?
IMO all we need to do is make sure you're putting a good amount of HIM inside your body in the first place.
What use is a plant medicine that holds on to the HIM indefinitely?
It means you make the medicine, put it on a shelf, then ingest it 10 years later, then it'll still be good for healing.
Put that in contrast with spring water which loses it's a lot of it's zing after only a few days of exposure to the atmosphere.
Do you believe that a source of HIM that is fixed in something else will heal the body even though the HIM stays in that something else?
Yes I do believe this.
Even if you ingest vivified salt, I believe that your body will somehow pull that HIM out of the salt.
I'm just not sure how though.
 
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Aren't our bodies already perfectly adapted to extract life force (aka HIM) from our food and drink?

Indeed . . . . . :)

Does that not suggest then that the substance or solvent you are looking for to hold onto HIM can be found in the human body?

i.e. If you want to keep loading a substance with more and more HIM then essentially make that substance mimic the human body or digestion system. Follow nature. Question is, how do our bodies pull HIM out of foods? Is it the hydrochloric acid in our stomachs or special enzymes etc?
 

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As long as the more polar substance is the final intended destination for HIM, then I agree.

Absolutely correct.

Where have you seen, or heard about, this "highly charged angelic water"?

Orgone energy researchers also reported the blue color wherever there's high concentrations of orgone.
I mean more precisely the magnet that used to attract the angel water. After using the magnet several times, it will take on a bluish color.

I have never done it myself but I saw a photo of it on the Internet while studying about it
 

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OK I've done a couple of runs with this, so I can now share some experience.
The saltpeter breaks down and totally disappears each time (as long as not use too much).

It turns out that metallic gold and silver have this amazing property, when molten, they absorb and internally dissolve oxygen gas, and then eject it again when re-solidifying.

It's called perocity, and it's the bane of all metal casters.

Anyway, here's what happens:

- the enlivened saltpeter breaks down into oxygen (and inert nitrogen).
- the molten metal absorbs the oxygen and presumably also the Gaia particles.
- then the furnace cools down again
- the metal solidifies and ejects the oxygen gas but hopefully keeps the Gaia particles inside.
- on each repetition, in theory you’ll keep adding more Gaia particles into the metal matrix.

You don't even need an expensive furnace to try it.
You can melt silver at 960 Celsius, which is achievable in a microwave oven.
Just make one of these:


Here's some tips:

- Use metallic silver shot (or gold shot), don't need the metal oxide after all.
- You need to use a crucible with a lid/cover, but not gas tight. (as Scrooge said)
- You need a small volume crucible to keep the emitted oxygen close to the metal.
- Just use small amounts of saltpeter each time. Don't get impatient and overload it.
- make sure to first prep your saltpeter as described HERE with multiple boil-downs.
- I said in OP that I thought you should ramp the temp, but you don't need to.
Hello Mr. Ghetto, is this path explained by you in clear words my ticket to salvation, or are there still a few secret steps or ingredients that have not been mentioned?

I'm a little suspicious, because nothing has ever been described in this form in the forum.

A melting furnace is not cheap, that's a lot of money for me.

Your work has aroused my interest and I would like to do it 100% in the ghetto style
 

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is this path explained by you in clear words my ticket to salvation
Even though I’ve haven’t proven it by practical experiment yet, I’m 99.999% sure that it’ll work.
Eg: repeatedly furnace gold/silver with vivified saltpeter, then alloy with a base metal such as copper and refurnace.
That’s certainly your ticket to fame if you prove it and publically demonstrate it, but might not necessarily be profitable.
I mean we already know the John Milewski process creates gold, which is miraculous, but the gold yielded is not enough to pay for the time and expenses to make it. For all that we know, this might be the same.
or are there still a few secret steps or ingredients that have not been mentioned?
The most important thing is to vivify the saltpeter with HIM.
If you use ordinary saltpeter then I’d expect that nothing special will happen.
I made vivified saltpeter by cohobating multiple times with distilled limestone spring water collected at the source (use fresh water each time) (aka the salt process).
But you could instead probably also vivify by dissolving saltpeter in freshly collected dew (collect it on a moonlit night) and then heat back to crystals again.
Or you could also use an air trap to pump air through a saltpeter solution on cloudless sky under a full moon, then heat the solution to make dry saltpeter crystals.
A melting furnace is not cheap, that's a lot of money for me.

Your work has aroused my interest and I would like to do it 100% in the ghetto style
Obviously if you have access to an old microwave, then your ghetto path is right before you.
But if you want to go somewhere in between, then you might consider one of these (3kg melting furnace)...
They’ll get to 1150 degrees Celsius, which is plenty hot enough, plus you can easily buy a replacement element if you need to down the track, which means it's a future proof investment.
 
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Even though I’ve haven’t proven it by practical experiment yet, I’m 99.999% sure that it’ll work.
Eg: repeatedly furnace gold/silver with vivified saltpeter, then alloy with a base metal such as copper and refurnace.
That’s certainly your ticket to fame if you prove it and publically demonstrate it, but might not necessarily be profitable.
I mean we already know the John Milewski process creates gold, which is miraculous, but the gold yielded is not enough to pay for the time and expenses to make it. For all that we know, this might be the same.

The most important thing is to vivify the saltpeter with HIM.
If you use ordinary saltpeter then I’d expect that nothing special will happen.
I made vivified saltpeter by cohobating multiple times with distilled limestone spring water collected at the source (use fresh water each time) (aka the salt process).
But you could instead probably also vivify by dissolving saltpeter in freshly collected dew (collect it on a moonlit night) and then heat back to crystals again.
Or you could also use an air trap to pump air through a saltpeter solution on cloudless sky under a full moon, then heat the solution to make dry saltpeter crystals.

Obviously if you have access to an old microwave, then your ghetto path is right before you.
But if you want to go somewhere in between, then you might consider one of these (3kg melting furnace)...
They’ll get to 1150 degrees Celsius, which is plenty hot enough, plus you can easily buy a replacement element if you need to down the track, which means it's a future proof investment.
Is silver that has been revived several times with HIM becoming the red philosopher's stone or the white one?

What would happen to copper metal if you revived it several times?

Does it matter which metal it must be? Maybe it should not be metal at all, mineral?

And the most important thing that interests me, is the stone from the dry way medical ?

Of course, I read a lot and thought about it for a long time before contacting the forum.
 

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Is silver that has been revived several times with HIM becoming the red philosopher's stone or the white one?
IMO a "philosophers stone" is simply a metal oxide which has been STRONGLY vivified with HIM.
The properties of the metal oxide will change once this happens.
The most obvious change is the color.
In the case of silver, the oxide changes from brown/black into cream colored and eventually snow white as it gets vivified more and more.
IMO the red philosophers stone is how gold oxide appears after strongly vivified.
What would happen to copper metal if you revived it several times?
Copper is very similar to silver, in that the oxide first manifests black and later changes to a white color after vivified.
I haven't seen this happen myself, but MB from the ormus community once reported it.
Does it matter which metal it must be ?
The path I mentioned in the OP should definately be applicable for gold and silver, possibly copper too, but for other metals I'm not sure.
Maybe it should not be metal at all, mineral ?
What is a mineral if not a metal salt?
The stuff I've written about here and in other places does sound very simple and is probably very hard to believe.
Even I struggle with it myself sometimes.
But do I need to remind you that IMO the key to transmutation is HIM.
IMO if you could find a way to load up HIM into any metal, salt or mineral, then I'd expect there'll be transmutation inducing properties in that same substance afterwards.
And the most important thing that interests me, is the stone from the dry way medical ?
IMO the purpose of the dry path is to make gold really fast.
I don't really know if the product from the dry path would be a medicine.
If you used gold and you're brave enough then you could probably ingest some and find out, I certainly don't think it would be toxic.
But I really don't think it's necessary anyway.
Once you're totally on board with this stuff, it should become obvious that simply ingesting HIM into your body is the key to good health, and long life.
So isn't the best (and safest) way to do that is by consuming food/drink/water which has a strong life force component?
Eg: eat crops grown organically in volcanic soil, drink fermented beverage made from HIM containing ingredients, drink limestone springwater, etc.