The Central Salt

[Jimmy Rig]

Thanks for sharing Jimmy <3 <3.

Maybe a Fish Bladder? which holds Air? or Fire?

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Hi Seraphim,

Thank you.

 

[Pilgrim]

In the image below, one hand is holding a torch/flame/fire. What is he holding in the other hand? Can anyone make anything of it? (genuine question, not rhetorical)

Anywhere you look up Basil Valentine's image "The Azoth Of The Philosophers" which has an accompanying explanation it suggests the object in the hand is a feather. Since it's Valentine's image it's worth looking at his works to see whether he mentions feather. In "The Twelve Keys" it says this:

"Saturn, who is called the greatest of the planets, is the least useful in our Magistery. Nevertheless, it is the chief Key of the whole Art, howbeit set in the lowest and meanest place. Although by its swift flight it has risen to the loftiest height, far above all other luminaries, its feathers must be clipped, and itself brought down to the lowest place, from whence it may once more be raised by putrefaction, and the quickening caused by putrefaction, by which the black is changed to white, and the white to red, until the glorious colour of the triumphant King has been attained."

So this concept of taking the volatile aspects (represented by the feather) and bringing them down makes some sense. Note that in the original plate the feather is pointing down not up, something not mirrored in more modern versions of the image.

ETA:

I think you could also interpret the item in the image to be an actual wing (like that oft depicted of an angel etc). Either way the message is the same imo.

 

[Pilgrim]

Incidentally, anyone have a view of what the "glorious colour of the triumphant King" is if as is implied above it comes after the red?

 

[tAlc]

This is a spin-off thread that evolved from: Fixation of Sea Salt towards the P-Stone.

The Central Salt - It's been called quite a few names, such as 'Regenerated Salt of Nature', 'Centrum Naturae Congentratum', 'Sal Metallorum', 'The Androgynous Matter' (containing the 'Two Metallic Natures'), 'The Hidden Fire', 'The Center of the Earth', 'The Hidden Stone', 'The Stone' (St. Didier), etc...

To get things started, a (previously quoted) paragraph from Rusenstein - notice the first line:

Dissolve sea salt in fair water, but let it be SEA salt.

He is IMO very likely to speak of a different 'Sea' and of a different Salt.

I'm suggesting a somewhat different approach to this...

Instead of only dealing with HOW, maybe it's time to also ask WHY (and sometimes WHAT).

WHY 'sea salt'?

WHAT 'sea' are we talking about?

WHY heat the salt? WHAT does/can the heating accomplish?

WHY melt the salt (or not)?

WHY dew?

WHY water/rainwater/'fair' water?

WHY Vinegar?

WHY does/can this process work, IF it works?

WHY doesn't it work, when it doesn't?

WHAT could make it possible for such 'agents' to significantly alter the properties of their 'patients'?

WHAT Keys are consistently being left out of the books/manuscripts?

I'm merely suggesting to also look for CAUSES, rather than merely studying/analyzing the common chemistry of EFFECTS.

It is my personal view that if we don't include Cause in our (equally important) study of Effect, we can read 10,000 more books and yet be none the wiser.

Sea Salt is the volatile Earth, the Virgin Earth.

Ordinary Sea, the Ocean in our Globe kind of Sea.

Heating causes movement of the inward Fire responsible for condensation or rarefaction.

Dew is Water containing an abundance of Volatile Fire in the form of Air which renders it ''animate''.

Certain subjects contain more of the element Fire than other subjects.

It doesn't work If i understand your question correctly because of the escape of the Volatile Principle which we are trying to retain and capture and when it escapes we are left with Less or Nothing.

The Element Fire or Universal Spirit is what makes it possible for Agents to alter properties of Patients, because the Agent & Patient are both the same thing, Universal Fire which do not differ centrally thus have the capability of uniting, altering, etc... The Spirit Is all In All.

The Element Fire or Universal Spirit which Golden Chain Of Homer touches on.

Element Fire is the Cause of All Things after Divine Omnipotence. The Effects are due to the capability for this Fire to manifest itself.

The Universal Spirit or Fire is all and is in all. Nothing ultimately in existence, differs centrally, all are the same in various forms.

 

[Agni]

There is also a "heavenly" or "upper" (macrocosmic) "Central Salt", which is complementary to the "earthly" one.

The union of those two Central Salts (lower and upper) gives us the actual "Prima Materia".

It's symbolized by a cross within a circle.

Yes, all you need are these two salts.

 

[Andro]

The "Central Salt" does it become apparent once seals or a seal are broken?
I assume the "Central Salt" is so called because it exists hidden in the interior of every living entity.

Sorry Jimmy .... that assumption is not correct.

@Jimmy Rig On the contrary, it is a very good assumption. And all good alchemical literature supports this.

 

[Triune One]

@Jimmy Rig On the contrary, it is a very good assumption. And all good alchemical literature supports this.

I assume the "Central Salt" of the Inferiorus / Aaretz can be stripped of its "seal" by repeatedly solving and coagulating under the right conditions, which are consistent across all authors, from Ram Bull Twins times. The time being the case, the Spiritus mundi would participate in stripping of the seals / clippot that houses the matter in worldly smut.

 

[Kiorionis]

I assume the "Central Salt" of the Inferiorus / Aaretz can be stripped of its "seal" by repeatedly solving and coagulating under the right conditions, which are consistent across all authors, from Ram Bull Twins times.

In my experience, for certain plants, you don’t even need the repetitions. The “central salt” of certain plants is stripped out fairly quickly with the right acid, base, and polar or nonpolar solvent. But then you’ve got to clean the salt up/purify — which definitely takes repetitions.

Metals, however, might take quite a few repetitions.

 

[Jimmy Rig]

In my experience, for certain plants, you don’t even need the repetitions. The “central salt” of certain plants is stripped out fairly quickly with the right acid, base, and polar or nonpolar solvent.

Metals, however, might take quite a few repetitions.

This has been my experience for the plant part anyways.
For myself I have decided for now to keep it simple in that the mercury is the solvent aspect and the sulfur is the oily aspect freed by the mercury.
I haven't really used "vulgar" salts from calcination for anything lately except as a drying agent, since they are generally hungry for moisture. (to dry the solvent(s)) so that they can have a greater activity and affinity for the oil.)
Some solvents can be dried using a strong acid solution or acidic salt. (which has a greater affinity for the water than the solvent we are looking to obtain).
Some can be dried using a strong base/salt.

Interestingly, some solvents can become salts when interacting with the right partners..
Acid and base reactions make salts..
What if you have an acid base reaction in an alchemical setting with living quintessence present. ie. Basic solvent acting on more acidic material or acidic solvent acting on more basic material.
But this is chemistry and I find it more useful to use it as a tool and not as an outlook personally.

Some solvents can pull the oil/sulphur (vital part) of the plant and part of that entity which is rendered from the living matrix could also be considered salt.. we get the entity of the being (soul) without the husk/matrix.

The "Central Salt" does it become apparent once seals or a seal are broken?
I assume the "Central Salt" is so called because it exists hidden in the interior of every living entity.

This thought came because I have seen several specimens, not just from plants, separate out into a white insoluble and red soluble salt. I can also now recognize the "smell" of the sulfur when I cook my eggs in the morning as being the same smell that the red salt has.

 

[Triune One]

Acid and base reactions make salts..

As "duh" as that may be from a chemical perspective, that actually sums up A LOT of alchemy.

This thought came because I have seen several specimens, not just from plants, separate out into a white insoluble and red soluble salt. I can also now recognize the "smell" of the sulfur when I cook my eggs in the morning as being the same smell that the red salt has.

That's also really brilliant. Cool beans @Jimmy Rig

 

[Kiorionis]

As "duh" as that may be from a chemical perspective, that actually sums up A LOT of alchemy.

The basis of the Golden Chain, right?

 

[Triune One]

The basis of the Golden Chain, right?

yes, and the Quartet, my favorite path (ICH, Cyliani, Recreations, Palmer) but much more.
It's a very insightful and important aspect of the work.

 

[ggkvarma]

Hi Nibiru, this is not the central salt, during the eagles the water flows or cascades on the curved inner surface of the curved flask in a straight flow with little zigzags. After several eagles a white ring is formed, this is one method of collecting the central salt, usually in a dry method.

 

[Andro]

Logistical Post

Hi Nibiru, this is not the central salt, during the eagles the water flows or cascades on the curved inner surface of the curved flask in a straight flow with little zigzags. After several eagles a white ring is formed, this is one method of collecting the central salt, usually in a dry method.

ggkvarma,

Please quote the post that you are replying to. Otherwise, your reply is void of context.

Thanks.

 

[ggkvarma]

...and I'm not sure if this is a 'central salt' or not, but here is a photo of a salt that I was able to extract from a common 'earth' that seems to have strange properties. From my understanding, this 'salt' is able to be extracted from just about any matter...

Hi Nibiru, this is not the central salt, a white ring is formed like the equator line, after forming you can scrape the ring with a glass rod or a wooden spoon, put this in another small flask with the philosopher mercury, after a couple of days again the equator ring is formed, this is one method, there’s another method of collecting, it is called the micro cosmic salt, people collect dew and try to separate the quintessence which is difficult.

 

[Kiorionis]

the Quartet, my favorite path (ICH, Cyliani, Recreations, Palmer)

I haven’t heard of Palmer.

 

[Philosophical]

I haven’t heard of Palmer.

The Philosophers Stone by ZADKIEL by Zadkiel | Alchemy Books and Texts Celestial Archive

www.alchemy-texts.com

 

[Andro]

This is one is highly recommended IMO:

The stuff at this timestamp is useful.

"Note that this is the most secret and noble work in our art; for it consists in salt, in common salt as well as the metal salt, but it is quicker if the metal salt is used rather than common salt without the salt hois [???]; the metal salt only needs several dissolvings and coagulations and it is ready to be melted."

- Book of Ruesenstein​

 

[Illen A. Cluf]

This is one is highly recommended IMO:

The stuff at this timestamp is useful.

You can find the complete text here:

https://www.alchemy-texts.com/book/...highest-favour-of-god-in-the-realm-of-nature/

 

[Triune One]

You can find the complete text here:

https://www.alchemy-texts.com/book/...highest-favour-of-god-in-the-realm-of-nature/

Thanks for sharing @Andro and @Illen A. Cluf. Better to be able to read the text. That narration is nuts. lol...

 

[Pilgrim]

You can find the complete text here:

https://www.alchemy-texts.com/book/...highest-favour-of-god-in-the-realm-of-nature/

Thanks Illen. The video for me was quite distracting. Text is much better.

 

[Andro]

In my experience, for certain plants, you don’t even need the repetitions. The “central salt” of certain plants is stripped out fairly quickly with the right acid, base, and polar or nonpolar solvent. But then you’ve got to clean the salt up/purify — which definitely takes repetitions.

Metals, however, might take quite a few repetitions.

Are you talking about Ormus techniques, such as pH swings, etc.?

 

[Kiorionis]

Yes and no. I was talking about extractions from tree roots, which only takes one “swing”; first acid, then base, then non polar solvent extraction of the “freed base”.




The metals comment was conjecture. I’m sure a deep dive into that would be enlightening.

I feel like the salt extracted in this way from any plant would be fairly “central” to the plant, because it sits at the center of the polarity.

Trying out the acid-base extraction with cannabis as well, now that it’s legal where I live, atm, to see what sort of tom-foolery I can come up with.




(Tom Bombadil)

 

[Philosophical]

I feel as if those salts have too much identity to be the salt patient I would want to use. As wonderful as they are and marvelous their effects.

If they're heated they tinge red, I see it more related to mercury/sulphur roughly.

 

[Kiorionis]

What sort of identity should a salt have (in the context of central salts), @Philosophical ?