Telomeres & Longevity

[Longmen Pai]

A facet of longevity that I think it is very useful to understand, esp. in relation to the value of fasting, is the physiological process known as autophagy. A Nobel Prize was awarded in 2016 for research on the subject. A good overview is on the Nobel Prize website.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2016/press-release/

Since resveratrol was mentioned at the start of the thread, I should add that there is research indicating that resveratrol can be an inducer of autophagy, which may well be one of the main sources of its value for health:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32012692/

Regarding fasting, and longevity in general, I think Dr. Valter Longo is an excellent resource:

https://www.valterlongo.com/

By "excellent", though, I don't mean "perfect." I think it is possible to eat more protein than he recommends and get better results if the protein is largely plant-based (it's possible he'd agree with that). Also I don't see any way that his recommendations for eating fish are sustainable if everyone in a global population of seven billion plus were to try to follow them, and there are a few more minor problems. Nonetheless I think there are good reasons why he is as widely respected as he is.

 

[Tannur]

Thanks for the useful info Longmen Pai.

Just an update regarding my last post: I can confirm the cool aftereffect of lemon balm. Very cool indeed, just like peppermint. I am not the only one who thinks peppermint is hot then cold afterwards (the couple who authored "Hedgerow medicine" agree). I am not surprised given it is in the same herb family, but the fact that peppermint and balm are almost identical is surprising somewhat. For now I can't even tell the difference between the two except the taste (peppermint has that sharp minty flavour and smell whereas balm is softer and has a nice lemony scent to it). Might have to check some herbals regarding the difference but any input from users here would be appreciated!

 

[Kiorionis]

From my experience Mint works more on the liver and blood and digestive system, and Lemon Balm more on the nervous system. I have always known lemon balm to go by the name “Heart’s Delight”.

I have my interests in the Mint family. Salvia Divinorum is said to be a cross between a Mint species and a Sage species, both classified under Lamiaceae (but this is just a story, as the origin or nativity of S. Divinorum is uncertain).

Then there is also Thyme, Rosemary, Hyssop, Catnip and other aromatic and medicinal plants in Lamiaceae. Catnip is infamous for the effects it has on cats.

 

[Tannur]

From my experience Mint works more on the liver and blood and digestive system, and Lemon Balm more on the nervous system. I have always known lemon balm to go by the name “Heart’s Delight”.

I have my interests in the Mint family. Salvia Divinorum is said to be a cross between a Mint species and a Sage species, both classified under Lamiaceae (but this is just a story, as the origin or nativity of S. Divinorum is uncertain).

Then there is also Thyme, Rosemary, Hyssop, Catnip and other aromatic and medicinal plants in Lamiaceae. Catnip is infamous for the effects it has on cats.

Thanks for the information Kioronis.

One question: How does one tell when a herb is working on their liver or blood?

 

[Kiorionis]

That’s a good question!

For me it’s about meditating on the plant after ingestion. Trying to follow the taste and flavor of the herb as it moves through the body and perceiving what takes place.

It’s much easier to experience these things after fasting for 10 hours or so.

 

[Tannur]

That’s a good question!

For me it’s about meditating on the plant after ingestion. Trying to follow the taste and flavor of the herb as it moves through the body and perceiving what takes place.

It’s much easier to experience these things after fasting for 10 hours or so.

Nice! Do you know of any books which talk about this aspect of Herbalism? (How to test herbs on your own.) I've never really found it discussed in herbal books, then again I haven't read that much. Someone at Inner Garden told me it was traditionally done by fasting (in agreement with your method), going on a very bland diet, then taking a concentrated version of the herb (tincture or strong tea) and observing the effect. Basil Valentine touches on this topic in Triumphal Chariot if I remember correctly.

Personally I have found another method which I think is useful as it immediately tells one of the practical application of the herb. You simply take it at different times and after different meals etc and observe the effect. E.g. by doing this I found that licorice is very good at maintaining blood sugar levels when you fast or otherwise. Another example is lemon balm: taking it before bed is a sure way to secure good sleep I have found.

 

[nav2010]

The massive question, how the feck is the stone making people immortal.

I'm back for a massive pre Xmas special exclusive revealing shit to you guys as the universe reveals shit to me. Life is strange, the universe is strange, things come in bits here and there when you're least expecting it. You're stuck one day not knowing one thing and the next day you wake up and its in your head and you didn't do anything.

That's how alchemy is. There is no other way. Never been interested in turning lead to gold (well a little bit but not now) but always interested in the health side. I made a few posts regarding gold and oxygen nano particles in the body, you can read those if you're interested because its linked to this.

So, lets say those elements enter the body and are killing cancer as well as doing other good work. Now how do we suppose its making your cells immortal?

Well, strangely its all linked to the memory of oxygen and gold. You're probably asking how gold and oxygen can have memory?

If you read my posts from six months back or so I said that oxygen is the key to transmutation because it attacks all metals for a universal reason. It attacks metal then stores the signature of that metal within its atomic structure as an oxide which is a blueprint. It can then take that blueprint to the next universal level i.e, the signature/blueprint for gold is contained within silver oxide. Like a DNA sequence so to speak.

Human beings produce cancer cells every single day of your life, this is medical fact. Your auto immune system deals with it every day and God willing it does a great job. It is also well known that cancer cells are immortal, they have no telemere's which is the part of DNA which controls aging. Telemere's break off at there end each time a cell reproduces and only allow a mortal amount of reproduction of that particular cell before it dies completely.

The philosophors stone when it is present in the human body takes control of the destruction of cancer cells but it also is responsible for the reproduction of new healthy cells to replace the cancer. The problem is that the stone contains no instructions on how to produce mortal cells, it only recognises cancerous cells and as a consequence contains instructions only to produce cells with no telemere's.

Is it producing cancer then? No, it produces healthy cells because it cannot produce or give the body instructions to produce beta cells only alpha cells with no telemere's. Once your body starts producing alpha cells with no telemere's it cannot stop, it spreads just like cancer. The stone gives you alpha cancer, healthy cell cancer and the instructions for it doing so are taken from the cancer cells it kills but it makes a genuine mistake, it assumes all cells have no telemere's just like cancer because that is all it knows. The intructions for cell reproduction are stored in nano gold oxides after they destroy cancer - they remember just like silver oxide contains the blueprint for gold. Oxygen has massive memory.