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Do you believe that the creation of a new human life (conception) involves SM in some shape or form?
If so have you considered how that works given all the human elements (material envelopes) concerned?
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Do you believe that the creation of a new human life (conception) involves SM in some shape or form?
If so have you considered how that works given all the human elements (material envelopes) concerned?
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Everything manifest involves it.
Yes, and this is a much longer discussion, which I won't be having at this time. I still have much 'learning" (or un-learning) to do on this topic.
On such topics, I'd recommend to read Archibald Cockren's "Alchemy Rediscovered" and Thomas Cowan's book "Human Heart, Cosmic Heart".
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No, as in the last 100 years. Fulcanelli did his transmutation in 1922, just over a hundred years ago.
As for others instructed by the Alpha and Omega, I believe they may have produced the preliminary stages, or found the first matter, but my gut feeling tells me that they did not make a perfect transmutation.
I totally agree with the rest of what you have said. This is why I said that I believe there are those who have done "particulars" (i.e. possibly made a very small amount of lower grade gold, such as JDP) but nobody who has used a small grain of PS to make a transmutation of a matter into a large amount of the purest gold as was described by past Masters ("pure" as commonly used by assayers who consider "gold" as gold mixed with various impurities - the less the amount of impurities, the puer is the "gold", although gold itself is always perfectly pure). I believe that others truly beleive they have perfected the Stone, but are possibly talking about a different view of alchemy (e.g. non-physical transmutation, such as what Carl Jung and others proposed). Then of course there are the numerous decievers who look for attention by pretending to have discovered the PS.
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"Omega" (Alpha and Omega) = "The All", "God", "The Creator", "Supreme Being", "Almighty", "All Knowing", "Jehova", "Absolute Being", etc.
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Hi Murgen
Unfortunately Merelle never collected any Spiritus Mundi and because of this she was not able to Work an Alchemic Process.
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Hi Illen
There were eight (8) Alchemists that made the Primary Universal Stone in the 20th century, Four (4) of them are still here today .... some of those Alchemists also made Particular Stones.
The Particular Stones require a lot more knowledge and work than the Universal Stones.
The Primary Universal Stone is necessary to be able to make a Particular Stone and the Spiritus Mundi is required to get to the Primary Universal Stone.
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What Andro is claiming here is not correct.
Yes, Spiritus Mundi (Secret Solvent, Our Mercury, Agent, etc) can be collected "impure" and made 'Pure" by the Alchemist.
But ..... Spiritus Mundi (Secret Solvent, Our Mercury, Agent, etc) can also be collected "Pure" and requires nothing to be additionally done to it to be able to Work the Alchemic Process.
I only Work with the "Pure" Spiritus Mundi .... anything else is a total waste of time and effort as it will not Work the Alchemic Process correctly.
If you are genuinely interested in Alchemy, then you should read all of the posts by Green Lion and you will see that he also states what I'm saying about "Pure" SM most clearly.
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Let's do a simple exercise:
Let's say we want to send a message by post.
We write this message three times:
1. We write it on a postcard and send it as-is.
2. We write the exact same message again on a postcard, then place the postcard in a thin paper envelope and send it.
3. We write the exact same message again on a postcard, place the postcard in a thin paper envelope as before, then place the envelope in a thick padded postal box/parcel and send it.
Now, two questions:
- Which of those 3 messages is the "purest" one?
- Can a message be absolutely "pure" without the thoughts/words/letters that allow it to RESONATE?
Let's say we want to send a message by post.
We write this message three times:
1. We write it on a postcard and send it as-is.
2. We write the exact same message again on a postcard, then place the postcard in a thin paper envelope and send it.
3. We write the exact same message again on a postcard, place the postcard in a thin paper envelope as before, then place the envelope in a thick padded postal box/parcel and send it.
Now, two questions:
- Which of those 3 messages is the "purest" one?
- Can a message be absolutely "pure" without the thoughts/words/letters that allow it to RESONATE?
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You certainly can Mr. Mixer.
If you place about 10 to 15 ml of "Pure" SM (Spiritus Mundi) in about a 40-50 ml bottle and seal it for 9 months to a year there will be One (1) colour change to what looks like Quintessence ....this is a good Test but unfortunately takes along time.
The best and quickest Test is to place a few drops of your "Pure" SM (Spiritus Mundi) on approximately the same amount of its Equal (Our Gold, The Patient, The Serpent, etc).
You will not have to wait long for the reaction of Our Two Champions to take place and you will then see the most desired for Putrefaction (the Blackness).
If you have been Gifted the Understanding of the "Pure" SM then you will also be gifted with the Understanding of it's Equal.
If this Test works as described then you will be well on your way to becoming an Adept Alchemist.
I wish you well with these Tests.
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Okay. Sounds good. There's a lot of work ahead so I don't think there will be any reporting for a while.
Thanks Black.
Thanks Black.
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Golden Chain Of Homer:
The one is Nitre The other is Salt
The one is Acid The other is Alkaline
The one is Spirit The other is Body
This is the Father This is the Mother
This is the Male Sperm This is the Female Sperm
This is the Universal Agent This the Universal Patient
Primordial Sulphur Primordial Mercury and Salt
Fire and Air The Magnet
Chalybs Sendivogii The Magnet
The Hammer The Anvil
Sulphur Naturae Mercury and Salt Naturae
SPIRITUS MUNDI:
This corporified Anima Mundi or Universal Sperm according to its origin is but little known, although it may be got in great quantity. The cause of this obscurity is that it bears a different name from what it ought to have. According to its root and origin it ought to be called the Sperm of the Macrocosm, the Sperm of the World, the cause of Fertility. This title belongs to it as it is the concentrated corporified Sperm, and spirit Mundi in a transparent visible crystalline Body, a dry water, which does not wet the hands, an earth, a fiery pure earth, full of Light and fire also full of cold, like ice, a coagulated or congealed fire, a condensed and animated air, which is better and more valuable than all the Treasures in the World!
But that I may show You this embodied spirit and that you may touch It with your hands, proceed as I teach you. Process to demonstrate the corporified Anima Mundi!
Take your putrefied Rain water, put it into a large glass Body cut off low, or into a china basin of a large size, which place in an earthenware pot, and evaporate this putrefied water gently, until there remains only a 1/3 part of the whole. Let the fire die away whilst it is yet luke warm, filter it through blotting paper. Pour the clear into a clean pewter basin, or into an earthen glazed dish, which place in a cool Cellar or Room, and during the night the celebrated Spiritus Mundi will shoot in Crystals and appear under two different forms.
The first is of a perfect crystalline transparent form, this shoots ah round the sides of the Basin and settles on small sticks. if you place any on the water.
The second fixes itself on the bottom of the Basin, and is darker and not so transparent.
Here now you see that celebrated spirit, the Universal spirit, the Sperm of the Macrocosm, the regenerated Chaos visible and bodily. Pour the water off gently, and let the crystals dry. Those crystals which hang all round the sides or on the sticks keep by themselves separately. Those that are fixed on the bottom of the Basin keep separately also.
With both sorts of crystals go to old Lame Vulcan and he will tell you their Names! Take some of those Crystals which hung all round the sides of the Basin, or were fastened to the sticks and throw them on lighted Charcoal, and they will tell you what they are, They are called nitre.
The bottom Crystals throw also on fiery Coals, they have a harsh voice and spit about them. They are called Common salt or Alkaline salt. Here you have both names of the Corporified spirit Mundi!
The one is Nitre The other is Salt
The one is Acid The other is Alkaline
The one is Spirit The other is Body
This is the Father This is the Mother
This is the Male Sperm This is the Female Sperm
This is the Universal Agent This the Universal Patient
Primordial Sulphur Primordial Mercury and Salt
Fire and Air The Magnet
Chalybs Sendivogii The Magnet
The Hammer The Anvil
Sulphur Naturae Mercury and Salt Naturae
SPIRITUS MUNDI:
This corporified Anima Mundi or Universal Sperm according to its origin is but little known, although it may be got in great quantity. The cause of this obscurity is that it bears a different name from what it ought to have. According to its root and origin it ought to be called the Sperm of the Macrocosm, the Sperm of the World, the cause of Fertility. This title belongs to it as it is the concentrated corporified Sperm, and spirit Mundi in a transparent visible crystalline Body, a dry water, which does not wet the hands, an earth, a fiery pure earth, full of Light and fire also full of cold, like ice, a coagulated or congealed fire, a condensed and animated air, which is better and more valuable than all the Treasures in the World!
But that I may show You this embodied spirit and that you may touch It with your hands, proceed as I teach you. Process to demonstrate the corporified Anima Mundi!
Take your putrefied Rain water, put it into a large glass Body cut off low, or into a china basin of a large size, which place in an earthenware pot, and evaporate this putrefied water gently, until there remains only a 1/3 part of the whole. Let the fire die away whilst it is yet luke warm, filter it through blotting paper. Pour the clear into a clean pewter basin, or into an earthen glazed dish, which place in a cool Cellar or Room, and during the night the celebrated Spiritus Mundi will shoot in Crystals and appear under two different forms.
The first is of a perfect crystalline transparent form, this shoots ah round the sides of the Basin and settles on small sticks. if you place any on the water.
The second fixes itself on the bottom of the Basin, and is darker and not so transparent.
Here now you see that celebrated spirit, the Universal spirit, the Sperm of the Macrocosm, the regenerated Chaos visible and bodily. Pour the water off gently, and let the crystals dry. Those crystals which hang all round the sides or on the sticks keep by themselves separately. Those that are fixed on the bottom of the Basin keep separately also.
With both sorts of crystals go to old Lame Vulcan and he will tell you their Names! Take some of those Crystals which hung all round the sides of the Basin, or were fastened to the sticks and throw them on lighted Charcoal, and they will tell you what they are, They are called nitre.
The bottom Crystals throw also on fiery Coals, they have a harsh voice and spit about them. They are called Common salt or Alkaline salt. Here you have both names of the Corporified spirit Mundi!
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What is the difference between ''Pure'' Spiritus Mundi and the Spiritus Mundi mentioned in the Golden Chain Of Homer?You certainly can Mr. Mixer.
If you place about 10 to 15 ml of "Pure" SM (Spiritus Mundi) in about a 40-50 ml bottle and seal it for 9 months to a year there will be One (1) colour change to what looks like Quintessence ....this is a good Test but unfortunately takes along time.
The best and quickest Test is to place a few drops of your "Pure" SM (Spiritus Mundi) on approximately the same amount of its Equal (Our Gold, The Patient, The Serpent, etc).
You will not have to wait long for the reaction of Our Two Champions to take place and you will then see the most desired for Putrefaction (the Blackness).
If you have been Gifted the Understanding of the "Pure" SM then you will also be gifted with the Understanding of it's Equal.
If this Test works as described then you will be well on your way to becoming an Adept Alchemist.
I wish you well with these Tests.
You draw a distinction between Spiritus Mundi and Quintessence.
The Fiery Quintessence of the metallic kingdom is described as being indestructible if I'm not mistaken.
Are there different types of Quintessence? Is Alcohol the Quintessence of plants?
Somewhere else in this Forum you spoke about Mercury, and Gold being its equal... Are you saying that Spiritus Mundi is Mercury?
What kind of Mercury? In alchemy there are several types of Mercury and not all of them are metallic.
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Hello, I am Phlogiston, greetings to everyone and this is my first post on this forum.
Several months ago I was much more concerned about the practical and theoretical aspect of alchemy but much less about the philosophical and spiritual and I noticed that it was very similar to a chemist's work, not the same, but similar, I felt a little empty and confused, so I decided to give more strength to natural philosophy, alchemy seems more beautiful to me since then, although I still have a lot to learn. I would like to share my opinions regarding the SM.
I conceive the Spiritus Mundi as the energy that apparently cannot be perceived by the physical senses, but is still responsible for the animation of matter, whether animal, vegetable, mineral or universal, to a greater or lesser extent.
This energy has no body except the one that incarnates in the body it enters.
Others called it Chi, orgone, prana, anima Mundi, zero point energy, scalar energy, even the force of star wars if you allow me to say so.
That Spiritus Mundi is that spark of life that a mother transmits to her child when it is in her womb. That energy that is found in the rainwater that when it falls nourishes the plants. What keeps a chicken egg alive. What makes us not a body of inert and lifeless flesh. It is the primordial energy of our cells, beyond what medical and dietary science understands in a more earthly way.
It is an inextinguishable light, a fire that does not burn, the ancients said that the sun is a small copy of the divine light, but with a fraction of its power, that is why some alchemists used the light of the sun and the moon using them as opposites, but it is possible that their results were not as powerful as the manifestation of the SM brought directly from the divine light, even so it would surely be a powerful medicine.
I see the SM as the energy that embodies us all, for example, when it rains, it falls indeterminately with that rain, when it touches the earth it nourishes the plants and animals, it goes from one trophic chain to another, when a plant is eaten by an animal it assimilates its WS, when that animal is eaten by another one, it does the same. In the heat of the day the water of the earth evaporates taking part of that WS to the stratosphere in the water and volatile salts, where it is again imbued with the influence of the stars, it nourishes itself from them, until it falls again in the form of rain or hail and so on and so forth, an uroboros is produced between heaven and earth. When I saw Andro's photo of the keychain, the uroboros came to my mind, the circular symbol in infinity of continuous death and resurrection and the keys are what open the locks of its understanding, I love that kind of language.
In fact, I am sure that it is also the one that provides a human being with a more awakened awareness of everything that surrounds him, both what is there and what is not in plain sight.
That is why there would be two stones, the natural philosopher's stone, made with the rays of the sun and the moon (which is that sister of the divine light) and the supernatural philosopher's stone, made with the same divine light. Each one with its properties.
In my opinion, the most ``almost`` indeterminate possible is found in the air and in the upper layers of the atmosphere, where the air is purest and is exposed to the influences of the stars, that is if we exclude the vacuum method of the back door that Andro speaks of, which would be obtained in a purer way.
Creation of this SM, is the result of the union of these opposing forces:
The union of opposing forces could be interpreted according to the degree of purity that one wants to achieve for the manifestation of the SM from the union of polarized salts to the union of the light of the sun and the moon, until reaching the manifestation of the SM in the darkness, the vacuum facing opposite energies.
Years ago I read that there is a way to do something similar using sounds, but I don't know if it would give results in a vacuum container, they are opposing sounds facing each other, they were used to produce certain effects in the pineal gland, so the opposing forces also produce curious effects in us, it was also done in the dark, but that is another story about which another thread could be written.
Corporificaton of the SM:
It can be embodied within the crystalline matrix of a salt, for example an ammoniacal salt.
It can also be embodied in water and I am sure that those two polarities to a greater or lesser extent are found in that earth that is extracted from rainwater.
The form that the SM has is the one given to it by the body in which it is incarnated, that is to say, you can have in your possession the same ammoniacal chemical salt of the dew synthesized in a laboratory but it is a dead salt, it does not have SM unless it is exposed to the same SM to incarnate in that salt, it is what nature does give it, just like a canonical salt taken from urine, dew or rain if it contains it in more or less determination.
The ancients already did the union of opposite energies through the ark of the covenant, for example, if you look at the construction characteristics, materials, you see that two opposite forces interact within it, the ark was not only used to save mana, but to revitalize it, it is an orgone accumulator like Wilhelm Reich's
Determination and indeterminacy:
When it manifests from nothing, so to speak. Pure SM is like a blank canvas, you can paint whatever you want.
However, when SM incarnates in a chemical salt, could it be said in some way that it is a little more determined than entities? Has its vibration changed?
Even if it is extracted from a common body it would not be pure, since when it is extracted from a metal or mineral it was already determined in that body, it will have the properties of that body from which it was extracted.
I even think that extracting from the air and the rain could be a little determined.
Through a back door as Andro explains, which had not occurred to me in that way, thank you. What Andro proposes is to recreate the conditions in our material world, in which the SM that emanates from the divine light, or from the source as some authors speak, is found, creating a back door to this world and thus there is no need to do multiple distillations, coobations, calcinations or spagyric work.
I would like to give an example, the SM emanates from a divine source or matrix like pearls, from here comes a long river, various authors and their respective techniques and recipes collect these pearls in various stages of this river, the further away the pearls are collected from the SM the more they will have to be purified to have them clean, they will be dirty, with distillations, calcinations etc... But if we go to the same source we will find those pearls completely pure. We only have to recreate the conditions in which that source is found, as in my opinion the author of this thread indicates. All of the above is an example. I didn't mean that SM is pearls, it's just so I can be understood.
What I'm writing here is up to what I think SM is today and how it manifests itself.
I hope this thread remains active and people talk, I hope I'm not late. I'm still finishing reading it because it's quite long. I hope I've published this well, it's the first time I've entered a forum. Greetings to everyone.
Several months ago I was much more concerned about the practical and theoretical aspect of alchemy but much less about the philosophical and spiritual and I noticed that it was very similar to a chemist's work, not the same, but similar, I felt a little empty and confused, so I decided to give more strength to natural philosophy, alchemy seems more beautiful to me since then, although I still have a lot to learn. I would like to share my opinions regarding the SM.
I conceive the Spiritus Mundi as the energy that apparently cannot be perceived by the physical senses, but is still responsible for the animation of matter, whether animal, vegetable, mineral or universal, to a greater or lesser extent.
This energy has no body except the one that incarnates in the body it enters.
Others called it Chi, orgone, prana, anima Mundi, zero point energy, scalar energy, even the force of star wars if you allow me to say so.
That Spiritus Mundi is that spark of life that a mother transmits to her child when it is in her womb. That energy that is found in the rainwater that when it falls nourishes the plants. What keeps a chicken egg alive. What makes us not a body of inert and lifeless flesh. It is the primordial energy of our cells, beyond what medical and dietary science understands in a more earthly way.
It is an inextinguishable light, a fire that does not burn, the ancients said that the sun is a small copy of the divine light, but with a fraction of its power, that is why some alchemists used the light of the sun and the moon using them as opposites, but it is possible that their results were not as powerful as the manifestation of the SM brought directly from the divine light, even so it would surely be a powerful medicine.
I see the SM as the energy that embodies us all, for example, when it rains, it falls indeterminately with that rain, when it touches the earth it nourishes the plants and animals, it goes from one trophic chain to another, when a plant is eaten by an animal it assimilates its WS, when that animal is eaten by another one, it does the same. In the heat of the day the water of the earth evaporates taking part of that WS to the stratosphere in the water and volatile salts, where it is again imbued with the influence of the stars, it nourishes itself from them, until it falls again in the form of rain or hail and so on and so forth, an uroboros is produced between heaven and earth. When I saw Andro's photo of the keychain, the uroboros came to my mind, the circular symbol in infinity of continuous death and resurrection and the keys are what open the locks of its understanding, I love that kind of language.
In fact, I am sure that it is also the one that provides a human being with a more awakened awareness of everything that surrounds him, both what is there and what is not in plain sight.
That is why there would be two stones, the natural philosopher's stone, made with the rays of the sun and the moon (which is that sister of the divine light) and the supernatural philosopher's stone, made with the same divine light. Each one with its properties.
In my opinion, the most ``almost`` indeterminate possible is found in the air and in the upper layers of the atmosphere, where the air is purest and is exposed to the influences of the stars, that is if we exclude the vacuum method of the back door that Andro speaks of, which would be obtained in a purer way.
Creation of this SM, is the result of the union of these opposing forces:
The union of opposing forces could be interpreted according to the degree of purity that one wants to achieve for the manifestation of the SM from the union of polarized salts to the union of the light of the sun and the moon, until reaching the manifestation of the SM in the darkness, the vacuum facing opposite energies.
Years ago I read that there is a way to do something similar using sounds, but I don't know if it would give results in a vacuum container, they are opposing sounds facing each other, they were used to produce certain effects in the pineal gland, so the opposing forces also produce curious effects in us, it was also done in the dark, but that is another story about which another thread could be written.
Corporificaton of the SM:
It can be embodied within the crystalline matrix of a salt, for example an ammoniacal salt.
It can also be embodied in water and I am sure that those two polarities to a greater or lesser extent are found in that earth that is extracted from rainwater.
The form that the SM has is the one given to it by the body in which it is incarnated, that is to say, you can have in your possession the same ammoniacal chemical salt of the dew synthesized in a laboratory but it is a dead salt, it does not have SM unless it is exposed to the same SM to incarnate in that salt, it is what nature does give it, just like a canonical salt taken from urine, dew or rain if it contains it in more or less determination.
The ancients already did the union of opposite energies through the ark of the covenant, for example, if you look at the construction characteristics, materials, you see that two opposite forces interact within it, the ark was not only used to save mana, but to revitalize it, it is an orgone accumulator like Wilhelm Reich's
Determination and indeterminacy:
When it manifests from nothing, so to speak. Pure SM is like a blank canvas, you can paint whatever you want.
However, when SM incarnates in a chemical salt, could it be said in some way that it is a little more determined than entities? Has its vibration changed?
Even if it is extracted from a common body it would not be pure, since when it is extracted from a metal or mineral it was already determined in that body, it will have the properties of that body from which it was extracted.
I even think that extracting from the air and the rain could be a little determined.
Through a back door as Andro explains, which had not occurred to me in that way, thank you. What Andro proposes is to recreate the conditions in our material world, in which the SM that emanates from the divine light, or from the source as some authors speak, is found, creating a back door to this world and thus there is no need to do multiple distillations, coobations, calcinations or spagyric work.
I would like to give an example, the SM emanates from a divine source or matrix like pearls, from here comes a long river, various authors and their respective techniques and recipes collect these pearls in various stages of this river, the further away the pearls are collected from the SM the more they will have to be purified to have them clean, they will be dirty, with distillations, calcinations etc... But if we go to the same source we will find those pearls completely pure. We only have to recreate the conditions in which that source is found, as in my opinion the author of this thread indicates. All of the above is an example. I didn't mean that SM is pearls, it's just so I can be understood.
What I'm writing here is up to what I think SM is today and how it manifests itself.
I hope this thread remains active and people talk, I hope I'm not late. I'm still finishing reading it because it's quite long. I hope I've published this well, it's the first time I've entered a forum. Greetings to everyone.
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Welcome Phlogiston,
It is "All in All", so even the most "specified" fixed metallic/mineral matters can be "universalized" (or "re-incrudated", as some texts call it) and re-turned to a more spiritual, closer to their original, agency-bearing form, whether as a (distillable/rectifiable) liquid or in a "salt" form.
The heat-generated "vacuum" systems only serve one purpose: Removing the denser (water and other) molecules and leave only the more dry and rarefied gasses inside, as you yourself mentioned in your post. You can obtain this "rarefied dryness" with other methods as well. Or just operate this method in a desert, with very little atmospheric humidity. Or seal your vessel while parachuting from a high altitude
A very strong vacuum will be of very little help, except maybe as a proof of concept, because due to the strong suction, over time, you will notice some "new matter" literally embedded in the glass walls, that wasn't there before. This exotic ingress into the glass is interesting as a learning tool, but it is of no real practical use in alchemical work.
And yes, there is a "back-door" method, wherein we may harvest the "Hidden Light" directly, but it is extremely impractical and can take a VERY long time to "climb" down the Golden Chain and sequentially form the elements as it descends into matter. It's much better to have a supporting elemental "body".
The advantage of the more fixed elemental bodies is that they can "hold" a lot more concentrated and energized "spirit charge" compared to the more volatile ones.
Enjoy this forum!
It is "All in All", so even the most "specified" fixed metallic/mineral matters can be "universalized" (or "re-incrudated", as some texts call it) and re-turned to a more spiritual, closer to their original, agency-bearing form, whether as a (distillable/rectifiable) liquid or in a "salt" form.
The heat-generated "vacuum" systems only serve one purpose: Removing the denser (water and other) molecules and leave only the more dry and rarefied gasses inside, as you yourself mentioned in your post. You can obtain this "rarefied dryness" with other methods as well. Or just operate this method in a desert, with very little atmospheric humidity. Or seal your vessel while parachuting from a high altitude
A very strong vacuum will be of very little help, except maybe as a proof of concept, because due to the strong suction, over time, you will notice some "new matter" literally embedded in the glass walls, that wasn't there before. This exotic ingress into the glass is interesting as a learning tool, but it is of no real practical use in alchemical work.
And yes, there is a "back-door" method, wherein we may harvest the "Hidden Light" directly, but it is extremely impractical and can take a VERY long time to "climb" down the Golden Chain and sequentially form the elements as it descends into matter. It's much better to have a supporting elemental "body".
The advantage of the more fixed elemental bodies is that they can "hold" a lot more concentrated and energized "spirit charge" compared to the more volatile ones.
Enjoy this forum!
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Welcome.
Great first post with a very deep grasp of the basic principles.
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The heat-generated "vacuum" systems only serve one purpose: Removing the denser (water and other) molecules and leave only the more dry and rarefied gasses inside, as you yourself mentioned in your post. You can obtain this "rarefied dryness" with other methods as well. Or just operate this method in a desert, with very little atmospheric humidity. Or seal your vessel while parachuting from a high altitude
A very strong vacuum will be of very little help, except maybe as a proof of concept, because due to the strong suction, over time, you will notice some "new matter" literally embedded in the glass walls, that wasn't there before. This exotic ingress into the glass is interesting as a learning tool, but it is of no real practical use in alchemical work.
And yes, there is a "back-door" method, wherein we may harvest the "Hidden Light" directly, but it is extremely impractical and can take a VERY long time to "climb" down the Golden Chain and sequentially form the elements as it descends into matter. It's much better to have a supporting elemental "body".
The advantage of the more fixed elemental bodies is that they can "hold" a lot more concentrated and energized "spirit charge" compared to the more volatile ones.
As far as I understand now and what I'm reading about the vacuum in a vessel, the vacuum is not empty, there are actually a lot of things. When separating the atoms from the gases it seems that there is something there that the scientists call ``the quantum field‘’ if I remember correctly.
I was thinking of applying two different magnetic forces to the vacuum vessel, to see what would happen in the vessel, a union of opposites. In this forum someone quotes it as well.
Although if something happened, yes, it would probably take quite a few months.
I thought about the empty vessel from reading the first posts in this thread and other info I found elsewhere.
So the incarnation of the SM in a body seems the most viable, or quickest, the question is in which body, or two bodies, that are already as purified as possible.
Then the atoms of those materials could hold more energetic layers, they would be more spiritually elevated, expressed in a more philosophical way. They could be a magnet once the right point is reached.
Volatilising those two substances you are referring to is light years away from my ability, I have some idea of how it would be done but they are simple conjectures. Maybe one day I will be able to do it.
My lab work is slow and simple in practice, for now I only work with water and a few other little things, the wet route, although I think I'm doing things not exactly the same as the wet route, my intuition tells me another way.
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Thank you so much!!
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Yes I am in agreement. I have spent the last three weeks in solitude for the first time in my life, Divine Providence? I mostly assume it is my re-practicing of my basic understanding of meditation, breathing techniques, yoga, and chi gong. I have never felt such bliss! Such ecstasy, words do not describe the feeling I can get from controlling my breath and staying present. Many names for the same thing.
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Solitude is very important for every human being to know themselves, to find themselves, and to reflect on everything they want to understand better.
And if you complement solitude with those practices you mention, meditation and Chi Gong, it must be fantastic. I practiced Chi Gong for a while and I liked it a lot.
I increasingly value solitude and silence. Breathing is very important and yogis are masters at it. I am sure that this energy can be managed by ourselves with conscious breathing.
I still remember when I did pranayamas with fire breath, it was impressive.
The individual who practices operational alchemy and complements it with those practices surely has a very fulfilling life.
If you know more names to describe this energy, orgon, chi, Spiritus Mundi, I would appreciate it if you could write them down. Enjoy these sensations.
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Wow, so many names, thank you.