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. Spiritus Mundi

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The need for protection/insulation has been mentioned quite a bit on this old thread. And for good reason.

Tincture-thirsty Alchemical "Magnets" or "Mercuries" can just as well "extract Soul Pieces" from the practitioner. Especially in the "faster" or "drier" paths.

Caution and vigilance are called for.

so does that rule out the possibility that the antimony butter is a magnet?
 

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Furthermore:

Every 'Thing' has a 'Field', and every 'Field' has its 'Axis' / 'Separator' / 'Hollow Oak' (Microcosmic Fractal Correspondence of the 'World Tree' - 'Our Old One')

This 'Axis'/'Center' is the Field's 'Bleeding Heart', 'Still Point', 'Null Zone' or 'No Man's Land'.
(a.k.a. 'Zero Point' in some energy research circles - the principles are EXACTLY the same).

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This is the 'Zone' where it is possible for our 'Dream Particle' (a.k.a. 'Spiritus Mundi') to become physically manifest, away from vulgar/'corrupted' influences.

This 'Zone' is our 'Portal'/'Gateway', acting like a 'Window' in the 'Wall of Matter', our 'Secret Passage'/'Hidden Tunnel', our 'Rabbit Hole' to Wonderland.

Are you in the 'Zone'?

:)

Natural examples of 'Fields' with their 'Still Points' or 'Axis' have already been given on this thread.

What we essentially need for our Practice is a proper 'Field', along with its naturally occurring 'No Man's Land'.

We also need a 'Vessel' (like a 'Mother's Womb') to contain this 'No Man's Land' and its manifest emanations.

The Field must follow Nature, and 'resonate' in tune and accordance with Nature's Pulse, Rhythms and Earthly/Heavenly influences.

Similarly, so must our Vessel be as Nature requires.

Various technological applications (such as the 'Joe Cell', for example) are attempting to employ the same principles.

Many of them still appear to be missing some keys, such as not (yet?) being in full accord and alignment with Natural Philosophy.
Those are rather more aligned with the Sophistries and technical 'Pufferies' of Over-Culturized Man.

Think philosophically and allegorically of 'Salamander and Remora', similarly of 'Suns' and 'Black Holes' (as previously mentioned by Salazius, earlier in this thread).

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Your Field is best when its Flux is most evenly and naturally balanced/aligned.

Your 'Field' / 'Null Zone' and 'Vessel' can be either 'internal', 'external' or both.

Eventually, one leads to the other - IF/WHEN the Bodies are properly prepared...

It may also be a good idea to keep in mind that the 'Ouroboros' (see the 'Key-Ring' model) or 'Axis Mundi' is in fact ONE, although it appears to be many.

More on this subject in a 'future' post...
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I am glad to welcome you again, colleagues! I've been away for a long time. Mainly due to depression and loss of strength. It happens from time to time...Especially when I spend a lot of energy on another fruitless theory. But I'm definitely glad to be back. Electricity is what has occupied and exhausted my mind for the last couple of months...In general, alchemy literally devours me. If there is a black stage inside the alchemist, then this is it. Well, those who are full of strength and energy may be interested. Talking about archetypes and principles, I just have to share my little revelation. Nature does not tolerate emptiness! Can nature really produce something like this by itself? This is the neutral earth or the bleeding heart. Or the same separator. Or a gate. Through which (theoretically) a whole stream of SM will flow)))...Andro, I think I understand what you were doing in your lab...well, at least partially. Tell me I'm right.)
 

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Andro, I think I understand what you were doing in your lab... well, at least partially. Tell me I'm right.)
"Partially" is more than enough :)

You can use "electricity" (optional), but better use wide-spectrum, as it occurs naturally, not from the electric socket.

Or find other ways to "stir" or "agitate".

Refer to older posts about "Stirring the Aether" (setting it into motion).

Also read ICH's Naturweg.


Ignis & Azoth Tibi Sufficiunt, basically.

Unless we like to make things unnecessarily complicated, as many do.
 

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Perhaps this image will be the most successful (from my point of view). An archetypal expression of the incarnation process. Or the interaction of Spirit and matter. Or the birth/incarnation of SM. I can hardly put it more precisely.
One can consider the upper part as a present but unmanifested SM. The lower part as embodied/manifested. By means of the central part/gate.

Please forgive me if I repeat myself. Because this image has already been mentioned earlier in this topic. But now that my eyes are open...I just don't know how to put it into words.

...I am eternally grateful to you, friends. Andro, Salazius, the Green Lion and all the others whom I have not mentioned, but who so patiently and carefully guide people like me. All these years...Your words, your works, your participation...it's hard to overestimate. It's priceless!
This unspeakable thirst for truth and knowledge literally devoured me from the inside. It was something on the verge of madness, obsession and despair...You have given me peace of mind. Against the black abyss that was inside me...Thank you, Andro. Thank you, brothers. I am restrained in my words. But with tears in his eyes.
 
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The hourglass..
Every night i lay down and close my eyes this is what I see.
Well it fluctuates between the inverted triangles with the center zero point and what I can only describe as "the hallway" which becomes an animated vision as if I was travelling down said hallway.

If I can relax enough and not get hung up on the apparent imagery flashing before my minds eye all starts spinning. (my being)

I know this is probably not THAT relevant but I was wondering if any of you might have some insight?
 

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By the way vyacheslav, you seem like a very humble and thoughtful guy and I just wanted to express that posts like this (the one you just made) make the forum a much more inviting place and I am sure helps to let those helpers know they are appreciated on our journeys.

Beautiful, Thanks:)
 

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By the way vyacheslav, you seem like a very humble and thoughtful guy and I just wanted to express that posts like this (the one you just made) make the forum a much more inviting place and I am sure helps to let those helpers know they are appreciated on our journeys.

Beautiful, Thanks:)

Thanks, Jimmy. ) I am very touched by your words. And yes, these people are really here to help us. Now I know and see it.
 

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Just to clarify what I wrote a bit ago, I pulled this from Andro's quoted post "furthermore"

"This 'Axis'/'Center' is the Field's 'Bleeding Heart', 'Still Point', 'Null Zone' or 'No Man's Land'.
(a.k.a. 'Zero Point' in some energy research circles - the principles are EXACTLY the same).



This is the 'Zone' where it is possible for our 'Dream Particle' (a.k.a. 'Spiritus Mundi') to become physically manifest, away from vulgar/'corrupted' influences.

This 'Zone' is our 'Portal'/'Gateway', acting like a 'Window' in the 'Wall of Matter', our 'Secret Passage'/'Hidden Tunnel', our 'Rabbit Hole' to Wonderland.

Are you in the 'Zone'?" I think this is what I am experiencing, and learning slowly to work with it in the waking life if this makes sense. I am visiting "wonderland" often at sleep though not always consciously.. sometimes I am though.
 

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I'm a little embarrassed after the recent emotional messages. But I feel the need to say a few more words.

Yes, this forum thread contains a lot of hints, but there are no direct hints and specific instructions here. There are many allegories and metaphors here. The principles and archetypes are described in detail here.
But all this requires creative assimilation. All this needs to be realized.

It would not be an exaggeration if I say that this is the most important branch of the forum. The very foundations of philosophy are set out here. And this information has no analogues. But I repeat - this information needs to be understood, deeply understood.

In my case, I was dealing with insights. Twice I had an epiphany. The first time I was just walking around my house, I just remembered. The second time was a painful and very long sleepless night. I read and took notes. But in fact, I had to explore and understand philosophy or reality to its very foundation. And nothing else.
 

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Yes, this forum thread contains a lot of hints, but there are no direct hints and specific instructions here. There are many allegories and metaphors here. The principles and archetypes are described in detail here.
But all this requires creative assimilation. All this needs to be realized.

Knowledge and understanding only come when one pursues the Art on their own. Others can only provide hints to guide the traveller on his/her personal journey. Thus you will rarely ever see the direct instructions written anywhere in alchemical literature. The hints sometimes point you to those works that do provide detailed instructions (often one work will provide detailed instructions or philosophies that guide you to one part of the work while others guide you to other parts of the work). All it takes is a little effort, reading and understanding to follow those hints.

There are several works that I know of that provide the philosophy and steps for the entire work, but I never trust those works. No true Philoospher would ever reveal all the steps in order, without obfuscation.
 

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No true Philosopher would even speak or write after all that has been said by our ancestors on the Path of The Great Stone.
Cosmopolite even asks to hide the truth and the Path, meaning by that to.remove it from the human sphere of existence.

Yes it is indeed a Divine revelation ( ἀποκάλυψις, apokálupsis (« action of discover »). Substantif derived of the greek verb καλύπτω, kalúptô (« hidden »), with the prefix of privation ἀπό ápó. Litterally « [thing] "un-hidden" », by extension, « [thing] unveiled to men », « removing of the veil », « the veil is risen ».

I'd say about the SM concept that the neophyte, not yet having the traditional Stone, should not bother about it.


AND :

Don't dabble. Don't force. Never force. Like a wise man said, it is like farts, if you force it it is probably sh#t.
 
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"Don't dabble. Don't force. Never force. Like a wise man said, it is like farts, if you force it it is probably sh#t."

This seems like good advice.
 

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No true Philosopher would even speak or write after all that has been said by our ancestors on the Path of The Great Stone.
Cosmopolite even asks to hide the truth and the Path, meaning by that to.remove it from the human sphere of existence.

Yes it is indeed a Divine revelation ( ἀποκάλυψις, apokálupsis (« action of discover »). Substantif derived of the greek verb καλύπτω, kalúptô (« hidden »), with the prefix of privation ἀπό ápó. Litterally « [thing] "un-hidden" », by extension, « [thing] unveiled to men », « removing of the veil », « the veil is risen ».

I'd say about the SM concept that the neophyte, not yet having the traditional Stone, should not bother about it.


AND :

Don't dabble. Don't force. Never force. Like a wise man said, it is like farts, if you force it it is probably sh#t.

Hello, dear Salazius.

We should not force, but we can feel the force, from the FORCE.

IMO Alchemy is a vocation path. It's not about the stone or the gold, it's about knowing yourself for and foremost. A Kind of LEGO where you unmount every piece you got in order to know it and build a similar form, with a different method and in a more powerful way. Looking at ourselves is always very hard. Mainly because we don't accept ourselves as we are. It's OK to be what we are, but it's even better to know who we are.
The problem with the concept of the SM is the same problem we have when you have a touch of the transcendent. If you understand IT and you FEEL IT, there's no turnaround.

I need to re-read this thread again! :)

All my best!
C.
 

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In respect of the discussion on Spiritus Mundi I came across this which might provoke thought


A snippet:

Can we extract Spiritus Mundi from the water in the air?

Yes. By distillation of some atmospheric humidity forms, such as dew, and by Heat/Cold conditions on the container.
But, more quickly, we can condense the Spiritus Mundi through a salt exposition. This occurs after the previous extreme de-humidification of a saline substance, which then, upon contact with moist air, will tend to receive water molecules from the atmosphere once again. Not only do the salts act mechanically as if they were a sponge, but also indeed attract the Spiritus Mundi way much better than a regular sponge, having a “philosophical” magnet in them.”

An extreme de-humidification is a calcination process, and the ancient chemistry treatises are pretty exhaustive. The preferred salts are saline substances that tend to attract water molecules in average conditions. A crucible is a lab tool instead used in these processes of extreme desiccation.

The following exposition can mostly be outdoors, to sky beams and air condition, or even indoors, in caves deep in the earth.
 

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Same website also has this:


"For air, Orthelius means the aerial part of the Secret Fire/Spiritus Mundi to be extracted from the atmospheric humidity."
 

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Also came across this:


THE “SPIRITUS UNIVERSALIS” , THE SECRET FIRE, Without which no alchemical experiment will succeed.

"“This is an universal and living fluid diffused throughout the All of Nature, and which pervades all beings. It is the most subtle of all substances, the most powerful on account of its inherent qualities, penetrating all bodies, and causing the forms in which it is active to live."

"“This spirit can be obtained in the same manner in which it is communicated to the earth by the stars; and this takes place by means of water, which serves as its vehicle. It is not the Philosopher’s Stone, but the latter may be prepared of it by causing that which is volatile to become fixed. “I admonish you to pay strict attention to the boiling of the water, and not to allow your minds to be disturbed by things of minor importance.

Boil it slowly, and let it putrefy until it attains the proper colour, for in the water of Life is contained the germ of wisdom. By the art of boiling the water will become transformed into earth.

This earth is to be changed into a pure crystalline fluid, from which an excellent red fire is produced ; but this water and fire, grown together into one essence, produces the great Panacea, composed of meekness and strength: the lamb and the lion in one.”"

" “It is an electro-spiritual force, a creative power which, when aroused into action,
can as easily kill as it can create.”

This point is the reason why the secrets of Alchemy are nor divulged to the curious, and why only those who have gained the power to control their own self will be told how that power can be aroused in man. In regard to this ” secret fire,” the Rosicrucians say :

The potentialities in nature are aroused by the action of the secret fire, assisted by the elementary fire. The secret fire is invisible, and is contained within all things. It is the most potential and powerful fire, with which the external visible fire cannot be compared. It is the fire with which Moses burned the golden calf, and that which Jeremiah hid away, and which seventy years after was found by the knowing ones, but which, by that time had become a thick water. (2 Maccab. 1 and 2.) Without the possession of this magic fire, no alchemical process can be accomplished, and therefore it is recommended in the ” Secret Symbols of the Rosicrucians,” that the student of Alchemy should above all seek for the fire."