. Spiritus Mundi

[Michael Sternbach]

My grandmother says that "To bring the Holy Spirit to earth we must have faith and perseverance and that she thought extracting it from the material plane was somehow an indecipherable question because heaven and earth were very distant things"

Are you familiar with Hermes Trismegistos' Emerald Tablet? It is considered the foundational text of our art.

This is what it has to say on the topic at hand:

The father of all perfection in the whole world is here.
Its force or power is entire if it be converted into earth.
Separate thou the earth from the fire,
the subtle from the gross
sweetly with great industry.
It ascends from the earth to the heaven and again it descends to the earth
and receives the force of things superior and inferior.
By this means you shall have the glory of the whole world and thereby all obscurity shall fly from you.
Its force is above all force,
for it vanquishes every subtle thing and penetrates every solid thing.

And that's something like half of the whole text of the Emerald Tablet I reproduced here! (In Isaac Newton's time-honoured translation.)

Perhaps let your grandmother have a go at deciphering this?

 

[Jahara]

No one is posting in the thread of the threads?

I know this is off topic, but this comment I always catch my mind , Rueb post this 17 days after the OP's post, it like he knew this thread would be the biggest in this forum.

 

[Blacksmith]

Can Orgonites open "portals" to SM?

 

[Andro]

Some Updates on my Current Perspectives

To me, "Spiritus Mundi" is comparable to the omnipresent "Fuel" of the "World Engine". It exists and "circulates" in perpetuity - both "within" and "beyond" our "Reality System Construct".

In a way, it is LIFE itself, an Infinite and Perpetual "Broadcast". And like any "Broadcast" in Duality, it requires both an "Emitter" and a "Receiver".

All "manifest" Matter is a condensation of it, and is also nourished and/or "renewed" by it.

In "Spirit" form, it is reflected on the vertical "Axis Mundi", between the "Basement Luminary/World Engine" and the "North Star" or "Pole Star". See the symbol for "Niter".

In "Matter" form, it is reflected on the horizontal "Axis Mundi", between both the physical and the allegorical "Luminaires", the "Sun" and the "Moon". See the symbol for "Salt".

These symbols appear in many alchemical texts. They have "occult" or "metaphysical" meanings, as well as practical alchemical meanings.

For me, the condensation of a "Mercurial Spirit" or an "Astral Spirit" (in the ways of ICH and Cyliani and in other, more "eccentric" ways) has been a fascinating subject of practice, discovery and revelation for many years, and in particular the condensation of "PURE" Spiritus Mundi.

But in my personal view, it is not enough without the "Prepared Earth Matter", our "Prima Materia" or "Our Magnet", literally its "Counterpart". It's like the "Elementary Gold" of Limojon de St. Didier.

And this "Terrestrial Matter" can be increasingly "purified" and "perfected" from the point of view of its "internal structure", until it becomes a very attractive & conductive "capacitor" into which the "Universal Spirit" increasingly enters/penetrates, essentially (almost) by itself (save for a little bit of "external motion"), and remains "contained" there. Also worth remembering that "Like Attracts Like".

Once brought inside the body, the light brings about the transformation of itself; the practitioner does not manipulate it with the conscious mind; it just happens spontaneously.

The "Purifying/Refining Agent" can be any suitable version of our "Vinegar of the Mountains". Here, I am referring to the "Wet Way". I understand it's somewhat different in the "Dry Way of the Crucible", but I have no practical knowledge or experience with it. Still, the same Principles apply.

Therefore, to all practitioners who are reading this, I would suggest that we do NOT necessarily require a preliminary condensation of ABSOLUTELY PURE "Spiritus Mundi", but we can increase/multiply its underlying Concentration with each new alchemical re-iteration of our "Androgynous Earth Matter" (the allegorical union of "Venus & Mars") in terms of "purity" and other specifically required properties. The continuously refined attributes of the "Prepared Earth Matter" will determine its "attractiveness" and the Concentration (or Multiplication/Increase in Virtue & Potency) of the Spirit we seek.

Its force or power is entire if it be converted into Earth.

An additional note and memo: ALL the aforementioned "Matters" and "Agents" are already "pre-loaded" with Spiritus to various degrees, be it our "Vinegar & Earth", our "Agent & Patient" or our "Acid & Alkali".

Lastly, there are numerous ways to approach the Work, but the same Principles apply, always.

And to anyone inclined to "Authoritatively Rule" what Alchemy is or isn't, make sure you first "grok" the Underlying Principles, and afterwards ponder your words with great care


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[Lakshmana]

Can Orgonites open "portals" to SM?

I don't like resin orgonites solid tourmaline better

 

[tAlc]

No changes made after 2 months (has it been 2 months?) to what is apparently being dubbed Spiritus Mundi, after the Flask was opened for under a minute after I started, and then closed when it had already begun. Interesting to note down. I'll keep it closed for the rest of the year perhaps so I can exhaust any further speculation and understand that it's useless (if it is) and just be done with these and so I can clean my flask.

Note: I complied my prepared materials and closed the flask and went to work, saw activity, I opened the flask because all of a sudden more water appeared and I thought it was superfluous water from the prior useless stuff that I separated, and when I closed back my flask I no longer saw any activity. If it was the alchemical child in the works, I still ain't so bad of a dad, because how am I suppose to know you were going to die?

 

[Andro]

Orgone & Spiritus

I know that correlation and similarity are not enough to "prove" this point, but damn, the principles of Orgone concentration and accumulation are so insanely similar to the Condensation of "Our" Universal Spiritus that it's uncanny! And the term "Orgone" is quite interchangeable with "Odic Force" or " Radiant Energy" or "Life Force" or "Qi/Prana".

IMO it's a fallacy to claim that "Orgone is not Alchemy". Maybe it is not "Alchemy" in the classical sense of preparing the Philosopher's Stone, but it is the same Life-Spirit Principle that underlies (and sustains) EVERYTHING, no matter what we call it.

We owe our "elevated" perspectives to standing on the shoulders of Giants, even if they were not all "Alchemists" as such. Wilhelm Reich was such a "Giant", among many others.

When we successfully condense/corporify the '"Astral Spirit" of some Alchemical Lineages, we are already, whether knowingly/admittedly or not, employing "Orgone" principles to various degrees.

We have, already laid out for us, Orgone Principles for attraction, accumulation, concentration and even "corporification" in physical matter, whether it occurs in nature or by ingenious artifice.

IMO we should ideally seek the Common Ground in the Treasures that all those Giants have left us with.

The same can be said about "Ormus/ORMES". While it is not even remotely a "fully baked" Philosopher's Stone, still, IF done properly, it fulfills the Alchemical requirements of "purifying our matter" and thereby "raising" it to a "higher state" of internal coherence and conductivity for LIFE.

Unveiling & applying Fundamental First Principles is great.

Clinging to Blind & Rigid Dogma - not so much.

 

[Andro]

This is a challenging post to write...

I shall herein convey my own thoughts on a certain rather fundamental differentiation between what some people refer to "Pure Spirtus Mundi" and other Alchemical "Spirits" & "Mercuries".

These thoughts are partially based on my own experiments and partially on the practice of other Alchemists whose Wisdom greatly exceeds my own.

Pure "Spiritus Mundi" essentially only exists in two (similar) states, which are basically the same state in different modalities, at the so-called "opposite edges" of the ouroborean manifestation spectrum:

Either COMPLETELY immaterial (i.e. non-incorporated under any material shape or form) OR as a (still immaterial) "pure light", "force" or "presence" (for lack of a better term), BUT contained within an alchemically prepared "Perfect Matter". And even so, "Spiritus Mundi" in and of itself is always "pure" and immaterial.

By "Perfect Matter", I mean a material whose internal structural coherence & unity is so greatly refined that it becomes akin to a sort of super-conductor, condenser and capacitor for this "Invisible/Hidden Light" (Or Ganuz).

We can refer to this alchemically prepared "container" as a "Perfectly Fused Non-Dual Androgyne" or alternatively as the ultimate "Battery" of Life Force, because it can, by its extremely unique qualities, attract, concentrate & contain this immaterial "Force" almost by itself, and also release this "Force" in certain conditions, as an "Evolutionary Medicine" or "Supreme Nourishment".

But ultimately, whether in its "free immaterial state" or in its "perfectly materially contained, but still immaterial state", it is always the same PURE & IMMATERIAL "Spiritus Mundi". As well as in any other matters in-between.

The Work on the Philosopher's Stone can be summed up in the Preparation of this "Perfect Matter".

Relatively "pure" renderings of this "Spiritus Mundi" in matter can occur via highly ingenious artifice of the Alchemist. It may take the shape of a subtle "vapor" or a "gas" or a "water" in some cases. Yet, it is contained in a material Host/Carrier, which is however still a long way from the Material Perfection we are aiming to prepare for it.

Conversely, we also have various Alchemical "Spirits" & "Mercuries", which also contain "Spiritus Mundi" in various degrees of structural coherence of the "Host Matter", but nothing compared to the above mentioned alchemically PERFECTED Matter.

Mineral Mercuries, for example, are fundamentally not so drastically different from metallic Mercury/Hg (in some aspects). They can be liquid at room temperature, they can be totally or partially non-aqueous and they can be powerful Tincture Extractors, often able to "extract" all the "Principles" from a Subject Matter in one go. Such potent "Mineral Mercuries" can be obtained in a variety of ways, one example being the alchemical "fusion" of two (or more) prepared bodies, either in the wet way or dry way. The result can be a solid OR a liquid but non-aqueous Mineral Mercury. Another example is using "chymistry" to "break down" the mineral matter and distill a Mineral Spirit from it, which is separated (or mostly separated) from the "chymical solvent". This can give us a Mineral Spirit AND some rather potent volatile mineral salts. There are other examples and protocols.

Ultimately, for the sake of preparing this 'Perfect Matter" or "Perfect Container", the most potent "Mercurial Spirits" are not necessarily the most desirable. Easy does it. We must first walk before we learn to fly.

That's because a super-potent "Mercurial Spirit" will readily extract the Tinctures/Principles from the matter we work on, and would therefore be ill-suited for "gradually" and slowly cooking and perfecting our matter through the "Rotations" of gradually & sequentially "awakening", exalting & rectifying the 2 Central Fires and subsequently combining them in a Perfect Union, which can be further perfected by the "Multiplication" process.

Finally, we could say that the "Super-Magnet of the Sages" and the "Fully Baked Philosopher's Stone" are essentially one and the same Entity.

The level of so-called "purity" of "Incorporated Spiritus Mundi" is ultimately decided by the level of inner structural Perfection, Coherence and Unity of the Host Matter.

And when the "Matter" is "perfected" beyond a certain point, it returns to "immateriality", as all the good authors generously inform us.

There's so much more to it, but words are failing me at this point...

Note & Disclaimer: All of the above is presented for contemplation purposes and is in no way to be regarded as any sort of "absolute truth".

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[Kibric]

The Art is so delicate. Writers make it seem simple if you understand the code, like you just cook the matter, which you do, but you easily forget cooking involves industry, you put things in, take them out, remove excess. Exact quantites.
Example, You remove the phelgm so that the gumm drinks its own water, the one thats holding it together. But you get the impression you seal it and don't unseal through all of the work.
It makes me wonder how many "alchemists" knew this Art.

And I read your post as if it were talking about the human organism itself.

 

[Andro]

you get the impression you seal it and don't unseal through all of the work.

That's why authors such as those in the ICH/Cyliani/Recreations lineage are so good. Multiple openings, closings, separations, imbibitions, all described quite clearly.

A "Perfect" Matter Host is eventually arrived at. Slow and gradual preparation, rectification and exaltation. The "perfect" meal takes time and mastery to prepare...

 

[Andro]

And I read your post as if it were talking about the human organism itself.

That's the ultimate goal in some lineages... Alchemy is just a "Catalyst" and/or a "Mirror" of one's internal refinement/rectification.

 

[Jimmy Rig]

Finally, we could say that the "Super-Magnet of the Sages" and the "Fully Baked Philosopher's Stone" are essentially one and the same Entity.

The level of "purity" of "Incorporated Spiritus Mundi" is ultimately decided by the level of inner structural Perfection, Coherence and Unity of the Host Matter.

There's so much more to it, but words are failing me at this point...

Note & Disclaimer: All of the above is presented for contemplation purposes and is in no way to be regarded as any sort of "absolute truth".

Hey Andro,

I just wanted to say as one who does read probably 90+ % of the daily posts on here that I find you do a very good job of sorting your understandings and/or contemplation's into words for us to marinate upon. I appreciate yours as well as any other posters input here for giving something to stew upon. I also feel that at this point in this website the amount of content is overwhelming and the generosity of members leaving breadcrumbs is also very great in my opinion. I have recently refrained from jumping into the sharing space too much as I honestly have not felt that anything that I would write would bring us any closer and more specifically I mean that my own understanding is not refined and fixed enough to be converted into dialogue that would bring any additional clarity above what has already been offered.

So to those with more alchemical discovery under their belt, and perhaps a better developed aspect of written expression, or simply more energy to put forth to others I thank you and there are many of you here.

There is a web of interwoven aha's that I have had which makes me feel that at this point although there is much to discover I have been given a solid foundation thanks to this website its members and ultimately the SM that flows here.

Cheers and great posts the last few weeks Sir.

 

[Andro]

J, thank you for the kind words. Much appreciated!

I was fortunate enough to make some very interesting discoveries in my lab work & internal work over the years, as well as meet in person with several brilliant alchemists from all over the world, and also have powerful exchanges with students and practitioners of "High Magick" and other "systems" geared towards Liberation, of which Alchemy is the "Great Mirror" in the Realm of Matter.

 

[Kibric]

precious fountain flow from the foot of this flourishing rose tree [or rose-garden for the original signifies either] from which only the philosophers have the good fortune to drain this celestial liquor.

[but] it is a compacted Air, from which not only all the metals (note this well) but also all the mercuries of the metals are engendered

Does blacknesss mean black?" Anything compounded with moisture is black?"
Does blue mean blue? Or a cold fire that fixes. Like gumm fixes with no external fire.
Does yellow mean yellow? Or not properly conjoined?
Green mean green? Or humidity?

The interior of the earth is humidity? Visit humidity?

Common colors.
When its compounded with water its black, when its fixed through internal heat its blue, a cold fire, when its humid and aerial its green, when its fixed through dryness its white then red.

Its an easy trap, to look for colors. You can find them in nearly every substance. How far does this deception go? Why did you trust that blue meant blue and green meant green?

An obvious point but how many are still looking for blackness to appear or whiteness in vessels?
Like actual colors show up?

The colors are decknames.

 

[Andro]

[FONT=&quot]First, some general comments:

What we refer to as "SM" or "Spiritus Mundi" is everywhere, and everything is formed from it.

What we are looking for is this Spirit embodied in an ideally very thin/subtle material "carrier" or "envelope", so it can maintain and express its potency or Agency (i.e. the "active" quality).

When it's too fixed/imprisoned via a "thick" material embodiment, it is quite useless as an Alchemical Agent, unless it is first Awakened by its own Active Agency, or at least by a chemical/chymical proxy thereof.

We must therefore seek a plentiful Source AND a very subtle Material Envelope to embody it in, so it can serve as a potent Agency.

It sounds like you are still under the impression that you can collect SM from the night air or a local river etc, etc.

Practical experimentation has shown that common air (atmospheric gases) is indeed a Plentiful Source AND a Suitably Subtle Envelope.

Additionally, any "living" water source (dew, rain, rivers, etc.) as well as any other "living" material source (including minerals) can give us a universal and relatively undetermined "Patient" or “Center" or "Prima Materia" or "Magnesia" or "Saturn" or "Antimony", wherein the active & volatile "seeds" can be “sown” and from where the Principles can be subsequently vivified, extracted, purified, exalted and eventually alchemically united. Most living material sources can also give us a readily available Agent fraction, but in lesser quantity and potency. So we have to "tip the scales of Nature" in our favor, to work with more agent and less patient, which is quite the opposite of how nature generally operates.

Any good Air can and will provide us with a most excellent quality Spirit Agent. In fact, it can also provide us with the "Saturneous Earth", eventually.

Dry air is the best, as aerial humidity % (water vapor) has been experimentally found to be inversely proportional to potency (i.e. expression of Agency). So we can either operate with desert air OR "dry" it artificially. The latter is likely the case for most practitioners.

If you read the old Master Alchemists books they make it quite clear that if you are wanting to pursue the Great Work then you will have to acquire your SM from the mineral/metallic realm.

This is a way, not the way. Also, this approach requires a chemical/chymical Medium for activation, extraction and transference of Agency by means of common distillation, which I'm personally not a fan of. But do whatever sinks your boat [/FONT]J[FONT=&quot]

Also, regarding the Mineral Kingdom, a case has been made for minerals "accumulating" Spiritus for countless years/centuries/millennia. This is not incorrect, but nature FIXES (most of) this Spirit and "puts it to sleep", or places it in “patient mode”. And just like "Sleeping Beauty", it requires a "kiss" from "Prince Charming" to "wake it up" and render it "active" again. This "Prince Charming" can be (for example) a chemical/chymical Medium, such as an "Acid Principle" menstruum or any other type of adequate surrogate proxy.

Only this way can you have sufficient quantity and quality.

Comparative experimentation does not support this "only" model.

If you are working the Agent and Patient path then the SM that you are using must be of a strong enough QUALITY to do what is required of it.

ALL paths involve interplay on an Agent & Patient Axis/Continuum. There's just no way around it. Even if there is no apparent "patient" initially, it WILL manifest eventually, beyond a certain threshold of "agitation". I didn't make the rules of how nature operates in duality.

The "Confession of Trithemius" gives us some truly extraordinary Keys to avoid unnecessary complications.[/FONT]

 

[Andro]

The "Confession of Trithemius" gives us some truly extraordinary Keys to avoid unnecessary complications.

For reference, HERE is the full text of Trithemius.

 

[True Initiate]

I am aware of of the ideas presented in this thread about Spiritus Mundi but i wanna point out that sometimes modern alchemist see what they want to see in the old texts.

On the very first page of Trithemius text which Andro provided the meaning is very clear and obvious to every christian familiar with he Sacred Heart of Jesus. Trithemius was also a christian abbot. Abbot is an ecclesiastical title given to the male head of a monastery in various Western religious traditions, including Christianity.

Let's look at the Keywords:

God had also appeared as the burning bush to Moses so let's not beat around the bush anymore and and let's get straight to the point! Alchemical fire is God itself which will calcine our matter like a burnt offering of ancient priests. It enters the hearts of christians through baptism and this flame also resides in certain stones hidden in the rosary. This stones were also called "fire stone" by Basil Valentine and it is his Antimony but it has nothing to do with element from periodic table called Antimony!

 

[Andro]

This stones were also called "fire stone" by Basil Valentine and it is his Antimony but it has nothing to do with element from periodic table called Antimony!

Sparking Stones? Such as Quartz?

Also, let's not forget the second part of Trithemius' text, which is far more (sort of) "practical" in nature. It talks about Fire -> Air -> Water -> Earth -> Fire

 

[True Initiate]

I meant baetylus stones worshiped in ancient times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baetylus

These stones when pierced with the rod of Moses give us also our water, alchemical mercury which is more like salt than liquid water you know like crystaline water. Water out of rock similar to Antimony Dry Path operation... you see how that goes. It's the same story when Longinus pierced the body of Christ and then blood and water flowed out of the wound. It's all christian mysticism and allegory. Alchemy is a priestly art and it always was.

 

[Andro]

I meant baetylus stones worshiped in ancient times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baetylus

K()()L. Of the more silica or more iron variety?

These stones when pierced with the rod of Moses give us also our water, alchemical mercury which is more like salt than liquid water you know like crystaline water.

Sounds legit. Have you tested this experimentally?

 

[True Initiate]

There are 3 types known in ancient times: Octahedrite was most famous one. The story of a hero strangling a dragon with a leather belt it's all about crystaline pattern of Octahedrite. I forgot the name of the belt but it has the same zig-zag pattern called Widmanstätten pattern. Chondrites were called flaming pomegranates because of small globules inside of them.

I have found several meteoric rosaries and if you hold them in your hand you can feel your heart getting heavy just like when you walk in some state sponsored building like police station or court of law i am sure you know the feeling. These are the stones that builders rejected but the religious ones made rosaries. If the pain becomes unbearable there is a sort of prayer to open the heart and extinguish the flames. i will post it here shortly.

 

[True Initiate]

I know it sounds like religious tv program but all alchemists were religious and they hid everything in songs and prayers.

Jesus Christ has Heart in Flames but Mary has her own Immaculate Heart. In order to rip the benefits we need to find the key hidden in her song "Salve Regina".

English Translation of the Salve Regina

Queen, mother of mercy:
our life, sweetness, and hope, hail.
To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve.
To you we sigh, mourning and weeping
in this valley of tears.
Turn then, our advocate,
those merciful eyes
toward us.
And Jesus, the blessed fruit of thy womb,
after our exile, show us.
O clement, O loving, O sweet
Virgin Mary.

The key to her prayer is not words but tears. You need to cry to open your heart to Mary and not running your mouth with repetitious prayers like Ave Maria. When you start to cry you will feel your heart swelling and growing and some type of strong motherly energy wrapping around you almost like hugging you from behind.

I recommend this version of the song for practical work:

This technique is also used in India for opening of the heart chakra as explained in this anime (notice the whirlwind of energy around him and the tears at the end). This is true Spiritual alchemy in practice!

 

[Andro]

These stones when pierced with the rod of Moses give us also our water, alchemical mercury which is more like salt than liquid water you know like crystaline water.

In order to rip the benefits we need to find the key hidden in her song "Salve Regina".

In your view, are these tears in any way (literally or allegorically) related to the "staff" that draws water from the "rock"? Or are these tears representative of the "water" itself?

Tears are a a good representation of "Heart-Melting", emotionally speaking. I've been through this numerous times, and it is a powerful experience indeed.

Some religious guru (whose name I can't recall) said a few centuries ago that "there is nothing more whole than a broken heart".

Do you find this also implementable in alchemical practice with the aforementioned Meteorite Rocks or "Fiery Stone Hearts"?

 

[True Initiate]

Water from the rock is a salty part of the stone extracted just like in the dry way of antimony. Imagine trying to work in dry way with a magnet and magnetic energy having painful consequences on your body especially your heart. We are playing with energy and matter at the same time in alchemy just like priests during a christian mass turning wine into blood, a transubstantiation!

Having a physical contact with baetylus stones can be a painful experience for an alchemist or anybody really because this stone will set your heart on fire. So the prayer that i presented is a pain relief from that. Hope that clarifies everything!

In the dry way the regulus is purified with salpetre so that certain pattern emerges on the surface of the melted regulus and meteorite hunters use a little bit of nitric acid on the surface of meteorites for the Widmanstätten pattern to emerge and verify that they are on the good path. What a coincidence!

Widmanstätten pattern is also similar to a net for catching fish or a wooden fence, leather belt...

 

[Andro]

Imagine trying to work in dry way with a magnet and magnetic energy having painful consequences on your body especially your heart.

The need for protection/insulation has been mentioned quite a bit on this old thread. And for good reason.

Tincture-thirsty Alchemical "Magnets" or "Mercuries" can just as well "extract Soul Pieces" from the practitioner. Especially in the "faster" or "drier" paths.

Caution and vigilance are called for.