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. Sorcery For Immortality And Transmutation Of Metals

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What does everyone think of Sorcery and Magick and using that for Transmutation of metals and the ability of living forever.
Sorcery has always been an interest of mine mostly because the amount of effort and discipline once self has to work on to master the art of Sorcery. As from what I can see there's not much real information out their for actual sorcery and its extremely annoying when you go searching for information to see videos on how to get back at my ex boyfriend or girlfriend. I would love to be able to get actual information on the subject.
 

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Socery is ceromonial magick. The Book of Abramelin is the most popular if you are serious.

Dr Faustus was a real man. You might want to look into him. I got a book on magick by him somewhere.

Ceromonial magick is dependent on a power source which is not you. I would be carefull if you end up peforming any rituals.

Also Edward francis Collins was a famous witch. His family has dominated US witchcraft since 1600s.
There is a big dispute between bloodlines. You have to have the right familys blood. New witches vs old witches.

You are living in the century for witchcraft. You are surrounded by pagan symbolism everyday. Our calendars, holidays tv shows. Movies. Etc.
You spell words. Grammar is grimoire.
Hell you cant escape magick in the 21st century.
 

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Would you say the kinda of magick done in the movie
sorcerers apprentice is real?
 

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This is a funny question. No. Its new age hodge podge.
But Disney the company has or used to have a lot of pagan symbolism that it took from the grimm brothers.
Fantasia is great if you understand the fallen angel.
Holly wood.
,Edit - the film you mention does contain a subplot based on witchcraft. The two male leads is the masonic play used a lot in main stream movies.
Holly wood is something you burn to recieve hallucinations.
A practise in witchcraft.

Your question on whether Magick can be used to prolong life.
Yes. But you have to unnderstand some things about Witchcraft and cermonial magick.
The blood is the life is a saying from the bible which rules witchcraft.
To use a demon to prolong life your family has to have the right blood lineage. The Collins/Todd family is an example.
This is pretty heavy subject. Its not like some movie.

To know real witchcraft and magick you need to know its history. Why the belief Magick and life are carried in the blood.
Its not some new age mumbo jumbo to sell books.
Familys that practise witchcraft and magick have been doing it for centuries and are very serious about it.

It all starts with the book of enoch. The Sons of God and the Daughters of men.
Nebro and salakas from the gospel of judas.
Satan and Azazel.
Fuxi Nuwa.
The bloodlines from mating with the Sons God.
This is why new age witches are not accepted by the older familys who still maintain their believed bloodline from the Sons of God. Through incest and a whole load of very dark distgusting practises.
Witchcraft and cermonial magick is dark rabbit hole.

Dr Faustus has a book i will try to link for you later.
Chuckfurnace is a wiki for all things masonic.
The Djinn state i linked here ages ago for elixrmixer
There are occult books all over the net. I have not been a part of that world for some time, i am sure others here know of up to date places.
 
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That's interesting for some reason I do believe it's real to an extent I've seen a non living object come to life and fly I even have ideas on how to make an actual amulet that could prolong life seems prolonging life is all to do with energy. What do you think about this?
 

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There is no absolute need to practice witchcraft or ceremonial magick, although they can have their uses, however they are severely "contaminated". There are other ways to tap into Real Power. You have to gradually "flood" you entire being with "The Force" (Universal Spirit). There are different ways to do it, some longer than other. The Philosopher's Stone is one of them, but not the only one. The advantages of this "gradual flooding" is that it triggers a process that is mostly "automatic" and soothes/clears soul & mind before accessing the actual Power, to make sure that Power is always accompanied by the Wisdom necessary to handle it. If you already have Magick in your blood, it can be an advantage, but it's not an absolute requirement. Real Power is ultimately an act of Complete Surrender. If you only remember this last phrase, this post has served its purpose.
 

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You got to go a lot deeper than that. Thats 101 science.
For instance.
Every word you SPELL has intent. It has direction. The words you spell are lined up and picked with your intent to communicate a sentence.
The sentence conveys a meaning.
The words have power you give them.
This is Magick 101.
 

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You are so correct. Real witchcraft is not good. It is contaminated. That is putting it lightly. It is evil.if you know it.
Marrow of children for longevity. Abuse to fracrure psyche to create intensity for rituals. The delibrate debasement of oneself to shatter ego. Incest. Rape. Orgies. All have some ritual that goes with them. I am not being dramatic.
It is a dirty world to get into.

There is a big differnce between Witchraft and all other types of shamanic practises.
All witchcraft is dependent on some other power source.
Shamanic magick is developing ones own power.
Red lion if you are really intrested you should really know this.
 

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I completely understand but how is one suppose to start without having some guidance.
 

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Shamanic practises are accessible from a number of sources.
Andro would know more than me.

Witchcraft practises are not publically accessible.
Unless your family has been doing it for generations.
You can learn from books by yourself. Those who do usually die. Not kidding. Again. Dr Faustus is an example.
Christopher Lee had a massive occult books collection and a lot of contacts within Witchcraft. He warned strongly against pursuing it. I wont help more than links.

My thread on Siddhis is a place to start for the basic eastern introduction on it.

A basic practise to start which is universal is.
Light a candle.
Stare at the candle.
Keep the candle still.
When internally you are peaceful and quiet. The candle will be still.
 

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I completely understand but how is one suppose to start without having some guidance.

One method is to Abstain from all sexual-related interactions to tame “the serpent power”. For one week, to begin with.

You’ll learn a lot about will power, how the mind works, and if you keep it up how to control one of the powerful creative forces in the human body.

If one week is easy, go for two. If two is easy, keep going and eventually you’ll reach a critical point where the learning begins.
 

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Im single and live on my own so sexual interaction is not a thing for me.
 

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Haha well I meant all sexual interactions with others and the self. No masturbation, no base-thoughts, etc.
 

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Do you think its possible to bring not living objects to life? As stated before I've seen a non living item fly before ill explain in detail if you want.
 

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Dr Faustus was a real man.
Unlike Dr. Fauci. Sorry, couldn't help it :)

Shamanic practises are accessible from a number of sources.
Andro would know more than me.
Reading books or attending workshops about shamanism won't make you a "shaman". It can require years of initiations and afterwards years of practice, essentially based on the same formula that applies to everything: Results = Intensity x Time. Similarly to magick, shamanic practices can also backfire if not applied ethically and wisely.

Christopher Lee had a massive occult books collection and a lot of contacts within Witchcraft. He warned strongly against pursuing it.
You have to have the right family's blood.
Christopher Lee was "bloodline" in this regard, from his mother's side - which is the only "side" that matters for this.

My grandmother and great grandmother were witches (European descent) and so is my mother, but they always denied it, even to me (but it takes one to know one). Also, they all have the same first name and they are all Scorpios :) I'm the first in line to "break the tradition" so to speak and be born male & in a different sign (still a fixed sign, though). I'm a bit like Paul Atreides/Muad'Dib in this regard LOL :)

Unbelievably, I never new the last name of my grandmother's & mother's "line", only the names they took after their marriages.
 

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Christopher Lee had a massive occult books collection and a lot of contacts within Witchcraft. He warned strongly against pursuing it.

We should not take life advice form actor, especially those that are/were connected with secret service agencies as Lee was.

I completely understand but how is one suppose to start without having some guidance.

Shamanism, witchcraft and all that jazz are basically the same thing from different traditions.

Magic is real. It might not work like in the movies (although sometimes it does). As for where to find good sources of occult knowledge... well that's the fun part of the path. Enjoy.

If your goal is to live forever then you are destined to live a life of failure and wasted time. IMO. Not that it is not possible to achieve, more so why the hell do you want to be cursed? Most vampires wish they could die.

I don't think you can transform metals using sorcery alone, although that depends on how you define sorcery. If you mean chanting a spell and waving a wand, then no that is not possible. At least not if you are fixed in "this" reality.

:p
 

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I've already got ideas how to live for around 500 + years
energy is all around us energy from the aether once we tap into that and vibrate that at the frequency of the or certain organs then we can live a life free from disease theb its all about using that same energy to preserve the teleomeres. I don't wanna live forever just maybe around 500 years or maybe a few more.
 

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I've already got ideas how to live for around 500 + years
energy is all around us energy from the aether once we tap into that and vibrate that at the frequency of the or certain organs then we can live a life free from disease theb its all about using that same energy to preserve the teleomeres. I don't wanna live forever just maybe around 500 years or maybe a few more.
Well one take on this comes from the Koran. According to several chapters, how long you live in really how much awareness you have about your self. Know thyself. The more you know about your character and where you are going wrong, the more power you have to change. But change also requires willpower. Knowledge and action, not just knowledge alone (or action without knowledge). This is the difficult part and has to happen gradually over time. In the meantime, you will keep slipping but you should keep getting angry at yourself until the fire within causes the water to flood and you are born on Noah's ship.

All aboard the Ark, Allah accepts every character! Come along, two by two on the ark!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viQrhyTUq8o
 

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I'm only 27 I'm still very young. Another reason I wanna work this out so I can heal other body parts with energy. Ive got an eye issue that needs fixing badly
 

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I'm only 27 I'm still very young. Another reason I wanna work this out so I can heal other body parts with energy. Ive got an eye issue that needs fixing badly

The reason I asked is that I personally would not want to outlive my children, but perhaps you imply that they too will be healed to live forever?

My philosophy is that the meaning of life is death i.e. the value life has can only exist if there is death. I also do not think death is an ending, rather a beginning. This whole live forever quest is - in my view - a fools game.

If one lives in the present then eternity is now, until it is not and then it doesn't matter... you know, in the same way a dream is irrelevant once you wake up.

However healing yourself is another matter and something I think worth chasing.

:p
 

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I personally would not want to outlive my children, but perhaps you imply that they too will be healed to live forever?
Not everybody wants children.

in the same way a dream is irrelevant once you wake up.
Hmm... Nor necessarily...
 

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Let me rephrase: not outlive those you love

The dream is irrelevant in 99.9% of peoples lives. Not talking about the message of the dream... I am talking about the life you had in that dream... it is irrelevant once awake.

:p
 

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I only plan living for around 500years maybe a few more so I would die at some point. I just wanna live a little longer then most people do.