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Matthew 22:36-40

36 Teacher, which kind of commandment is great and important (the principal kind) in the Law? [Some commandments are light—which are heavy?]

37 And He replied to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind (intellect).

38 This is the great (most important, principal) and first commandment.

39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as [you do] yourself.

40 These two commandments sum up and upon them depend all the Law and the Prophets.

Yes Seraphim .... the only true Path to the Great Work.

But so little genuinely valued.

IMHO .....
 

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Thank you! :)
A good and respectful debate is the way to go!

Let me try to be more specific because alchemists have a very peculiar way of saying nothing with lots of words. :D
Conversely they can use not many words and say Volumes ... but usually only those with some understanding can hear them correctly.

It's all part of our Alchemic Evolution.

I understand and relate to that. But I believe we see the "connection" in a different way when the subject is the lab work. You believe that without the Connection you never attain anything Alchemic. I believe that without the Connection I wouldn't even exist as I am. To me, this is not faith but deed. I don't believe, I know.
And knowing can make a great difference.

Unfortunately many people don't believe in the "Divine" and therefore they cannot ask for assistance.

Now, do you really want to put your faith to the test, changing roles? I tell you what is the number I choose from 1 to 10 and you pick it? Let's try that!
Of course, you will not... I bet! You don't need to provide any proof... etc.
Do you have a single idea about how many people told me this kind of thing? Show me! Like Thomas! But... you will not!
I have put my faith to the test, and I know that the "All Knowing" won't be put to the test ... but if we ask for guidance and help that may be granted.

Please don't tell me that you "wish me all the best", because you know "secrets", when you can point something concrete like: "Have you tried this? or that?" or "have you considered XXXX to be the sun or XXXX to be the moon?". Wouldn't that be better and more captivating?
Have you tried any Secret Solvents ?
Have you tried working with all the metals ?
Have you tried the Antimony Path ?
Have you tried the Acetate Path ?
Have you tried the GW Path ?
Have you tried the Cinnabar Path ?
Have you tried the Short Path ?
Have you tried the Long path ?, etc, etc, etc.

I was suggesting that you might want to try some or all of these Paths.
I have tried them all and they all helped me in some way ... so they may help you also ?

black said:
I can give advise about "what not to do"...

My point exactly 2!
How is it possible to learn something like that?
By advising you "what not to do" could save you a lifetime on the wrong path, but
if you think my advise is useless you can always just ignore it, and that's OK.

I have said this many time before that this is a protected "Divine" Science and the
knowledge of it has remained a secret for thousands upon thousands of years and
will continue to remain so.

Can't be. The Yuga will not last that long.
Why would it not continue to remain secret ?

There are great civilizations (and more advanced) in our past that our current history has no understanding about.

Alchemists go back many, many thousands of years.

I would love to have people like you giving tips to those who are working at the lab.
Not about WHAT NOT TO DO, but WHAT TO DO.
What is the purpose of pointing all roads that will not end in a bridge to the ones that are looking for the bridge itself?
What is the point? I really don't understand...
Nearly all students of Alchemy cannot understand "WHAT TO DO" because it can only be conveyed in Alchemic Language ... But they can clearly understand "WHAT NOT TO DO" in plain words.

Have you gained any profitable information from any of my posts ?

IMHO ....... :)
 

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Hello Black.

Have you gained any profitable information from any of my posts ?

From some. Others not so much. I believe it applies to all the things we post, mine included.
I will not continue to debate things up. But, you are right, I learned a lot.

See you later.
C.
 

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Hi, I don't want to diminish what you have said now, but please let me correct one or two things that are of more general interest.
Black, it seems you‘ve got something mixed up. To get the philosophical Mercury, first you need the black, putrefied earth (the decomposed body of the dead dragon). The philosophical gold is the red stone, it is also called the seed of gold.

The alchemical putrefaction requires the fire of the Green Lion, which stirs the (secret) inner fire of matter. This inner fire is the same cold fire that ignites its known effect in the dead bodies and puts the corpses into all the creepy states that can be observed.

Look at this lion, he sits on the earth and loops his tail up past the anus through the hind legs. This shows he gathers the astral spirit or spiritual fire from on high and leads it down or into the earth, mixing it with the exhalations from the buttocks. The earth is thus led into a stinking rottenness and putrefaction. (That he bites into the rays of the sun at the same time has not much to do with this, the one is the putrefaction, the other rather a philosophical calcination).

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What do the alchemists actually mean by the adjective "philosophical"? Something is philosophical if it has come into being through alchemical transformation or serves alchemical transformation and is not an ordinary substance.

Thus, the dew that forms in the morning and can be collected in an ordinary way is not a philosophical substance, but an common substance. The philosophical dew or May Dew of the philosophers is precisely not dew, but small beads of water that form on our matter. These are formed by the concentrated astral spirit collected by our magnet. They can also take on an orange-golden colour and are then sometimes called honey pearls.

I can only advise not to jump to conclusions, but always to weigh very carefully the whole context in relation to alchemy. Mud, for example, has no hermaphroditic nature. Mud is earth and water, and earth is feminine, as is water (in any form). Mud is compared to primordial chaos and, especially when black, represents an image of the Materia Prima. This (the Materia Prima and not the mud) is the fundamental feminine principle of creation, it is the matrix into which the spirit inscribes the forms. But in exactly the same way, the mud is also thoroughly feminine.

Moreover, we only acquire a hermaphroditic nature when we combine the masculine and the feminine in such a way that they can no longer be separated and can only be described as one. However, both properties would in principle still have to be recognizable, which cannot be observed in a nuclear fusion (which shows that this fusion is not a perfect union); moreover, it could be disintegrated again by a nuclear fission.

The reason for this is that perfect union can only take place when the two (complementary) opposites of a thing are united (man and woman, sun and moon, day and night, etc.), or precisely the inner with the outer.

Thus water (if one wants to achieve a hermaphroditic nature with it) can only be united with its opposite - and that is fire. This, of course, would be a transformation and is indeed one of the greatest secrets of alchemy.

We can unite a man with a woman, but not a man with a leopardess, the result would be monstrous and unnatural. Nor could a man be united with a man or a woman with a woman, that would merely be a multiplication.
 

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Hello Black.

From some. Others not so much. I believe it applies to all the things we post, mine included.
I will not continue to debate things up. But, you are right, I learned a lot.

See you later.
C.

Thank you Christophorus, I also learned a lot .... :)
 

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What do the alchemists actually mean by the adjective "philosophical"?*
Exactly what everyone else meant when they use it for literally anything else. Alchemists did not come up.with it. Its natural philosophy. Alchemists use it.

I gave examples by authors of using natural philosophy in describing their prima materia.
Again they did not come up with the idea. You can use it to describe cars or planes, anything.

Mud, for example, has no hermaphroditic natur
In natural philosophy it does. Which alchemists use for describing their work.

Thus water (if one wants to achieve a hermaphroditic nature with it) can only be united with its opposite - and that is fire.
I just can't be bothered any more.

Moreover, we only acquire a hermaphroditic nature when we combine the masculine and the feminine in such a way that they can no longer be separated and can only be described as one. Howeve
Right, like every natural philosopher has ever said.
 

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Hello Mr. Mixer


Truly one of the great things in life any of us can do ... help others that is.
This is good to hear, and if you enjoy helping others ... all the better for you.
After all it's not fun helping people if you don't enjoy it.

I can only suggest that you address these issues you have with the God you serve.

Another issue to put to God (The All Knowing)

I hear what your saying Mr. Mixer ... I've walked in those shoes.

There is so much more to Alchemy than Medicine and Gold.
If you ask God (The All Knowing) He may explain it to you.

Do you communicate with Him everyday ?

I have also suffered with this type of torment ... you may have to hold your God accountable for this situation that you are in.

Have you tried any type of communication with the "All Knowing" ?????

If not it sounds like it could be time to start, and get those answers that you want.

I honestly hope some of my suggestions can be of some help.

IMHO ...... :)

I know full well that I come across as bitter here because you guys aren't coughing up the secrets, and indeed I am, however im not overly worried, because indeed I do have (what i believe to be) a strong link to the divine and the last we spoke on the matter, to paraphrase my impressions I received from the big G, went like this:

"Shayne, did you learn a lot this year? And get stronger? Wiser? Smarter?.... Do you think that would have happened if you were sitting on your ass healing after having received the stone? You healing time will come, and the stone will come, when you are ready for it. You have to be super tough to handle the stone. This thing can destroy you buddy, and quite easily... and you know full well that a lot is going on in your life to make you grow up, condition you, and bring you into the level of maturity that you require in order to handle such a weapon.

It comes soon, and when it comes, it will come fast. A little more patience, a little more refinement. Stop being a dick to your wife as well, or you wont get shit. Regards. Baby Jesus."

Pretty much something like that regarding Alchemy. Which is all good. And i have a lot of hope in Alchemy at the moment. Still doesn't take away from the fact that I think the status quo is f-n ancient, and not in a cool way. In a stifled, old man way, like a pile of dead skin, that's what it reminds me of.

Ultimately, the stone will become public.. indeed it is written:

“In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. 45 This is the meaning of the vision of THE ROCK cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands—a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.

And I have written this reply a few times and I cant remember whether i sent any of them or not because I kept getting distracted. so i will reiterate.

Your friendship has been a great help to me in Alchemy, it has helped me to not give up, and perhaps I would have even left the forum if it weren't for your continued support and checking in on me when you can see i am behaving erratically.

The Alchemy advice has certainly spurred me on to read more, and I have stumbled upon something that I very much want to try...
So as to whether or not the advice itself has been helpful, time will tell. However I am confident that it will end up being exactly what i needed. I showed you guys the plan with the clay and even if this is not a path to the stone, to see if this theory in the golden chain of homer stands is a great test to hermetic theory and would do much to confirm the validity of this philosophy.

So thank you Mr. Black, for your advice, and more so, for your friendship.
 

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Thus water (if one wants to achieve a hermaphroditic nature with it) can only be united with its opposite - and that is fire. This, of course, would be a transformation and is indeed one of the greatest secrets of alchemy.
We can unite a man with a woman, but not a man with a leopardess, the result would be monstrous and unnatural. Nor could a man be united with a man or a woman with a woman, that would merely be a multiplication.

Hi, I don't want to diminish what you have said now, but please let me correct one or two things that are of more general interest.

Can water only unite with its opposite? I guess my new view is that the whole idea here is that we have a quad-polar magnet of elements for a reason, because water CAN'T unite with its opposite, it must first become air if it is to unite with fire, and fire must also, first become air, if it is to unite with water? Wouldn't you agree?
 

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So thank you Mr. Black, for your advice, and more so, for your friendship.
Thank you Mr. Mixer

This is such good news you are communicating with BJ.
There is always light at the end of the tunnel.
And you are correct that I am an old dude ... 70 very soon.
It's always a good idea to be nicer to your loving wife. ;)
 

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Hi elixirmixer,

Actually, the things I say speak very well for themselves, one should only read them carefully. But well, one more time I will go into it.

Reminder: Thus water ( if one wants to achieve a hermaphroditic nature with it) can only be united with its opposite - and that is fire.

Of course you can unite anything you wish with anything you want, but not irreversibly to a truly philosophical androgynous form, that only works with its complementary opposite. You can also only get a completely black color if you subtractively mix two complementary colors (or a white color in an additive mixing).

It's all about that statement, nothing else, least of all anything you'll read into that statement. I did not say: do this or do that! Nor did I say: it would go this way and that way. I said that if you want to do that, then it only works with its opposite.

Although I haven't said a word about how it should be done, you offer a possibility and ask if I agree. Well, I would agree insofar as you meant that this process can only take place simultaneously, not consecutively. Also, in this way I do not obtain a perfect form, but only a quasi-androgynous form. And since we are talking about the work, we must not assume that we are using the elements themselves in material form. We have a certain very special water, and from the air we draw the astral spirit. But do you really know how (our) water is transformed into air? This process is called "letting the eagles soar", but it has absolutely nothing to do with ordinary distillation or the like.

Apart from what I said about the Green Lion, it was all theory, no one needs to pull their hair out to find a process here, nothing in this world can be fully unified, nothing has a true androgynous essence, if it did it could not be perceived by mortals, it would simply disappear from consciousness. Read the books carefully: when the stone is multiplied ten times - that is, to perfection - it dissolves and disappears.

OK, nobody paid any attention to what I said about the Green Lion! Obviously, everything is already clear to you, so what should I add to that?

By the way, I'm going traveling again in the near future, so I'll probably only visit rarely for a while.

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Hi elixirmixer,

Actually, the things I say speak very well for themselves, one should only read them carefully. But well, one more time I will go into it.

Reminder: Thus water ( if one wants to achieve a hermaphroditic nature with it) can only be united with its opposite - and that is fire.

Of course you can unite anything you wish with anything you want, but not irreversibly to a truly philosophical androgynous form, that only works with its complementary opposite. You can also only get a completely black color if you subtractively mix two complementary colors (or a white color in an additive mixing).

It's all about that statement, nothing else, least of all anything you'll read into that statement. I did not say: do this or do that! Nor did I say: it would go this way and that way. I said that if you want to do that, then it only works with its opposite.

Although I haven't said a word about how it should be done, you offer a possibility and ask if I agree. Well, I would agree insofar as you meant that this process can only take place simultaneously, not consecutively. Also, in this way I do not obtain a perfect form, but only a quasi-androgynous form. And since we are talking about the work, we must not assume that we are using the elements themselves in material form. We have a certain very special water, and from the air we draw the astral spirit. But do you really know how (our) water is transformed into air? This process is called "letting the eagles soar", but it has absolutely nothing to do with ordinary distillation or the like.

Apart from what I said about the Green Lion, it was all theory, no one needs to pull their hair out to find a process here, nothing in this world can be fully unified, nothing has a true androgynous essence, if it did it could not be perceived by mortals, it would simply disappear from consciousness. Read the books carefully: when the stone is multiplied ten times - that is, to perfection - it dissolves and disappears.

O, nobody paid any attention to what I said about the Green Lion! Obviously, everything is already clear to you, so what should I add to that?

By the way, I'm going travel ling again in the near future, so I'll probably only visit rarely for a while.

sl

Ah yes, I get what you mean Merovee, about the what rather than the how.
 

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Hello Merovee .... Again thank you for your input to the forum.
Apart from what I said about the Green Lion, it was all theory, no one needs to pull their hair out to find a process here, nothing in this world can be fully unified, nothing has a true androgynous essence,
This statement is not correct Merovee.

if it did it could not be perceived by mortals,
We can perceive it's vehicle.

it would simply disappear from consciousness.
Not so.

Read the books carefully: when the stone is multiplied ten times - that is, to perfection - it dissolves and disappears.
This is also "completely wrong".

OK, nobody paid any attention to what I said about the Green Lion! Obviously, everything is already clear to you, so what should I add to that?
If your work in the lab is correct, then you may be able to find some Quintessence ... it is the Blood dripping from the Lions mouth.

IMHO ...... :)
 

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Well, one can reject it and also hold this or that opinion, but to what end? There can be no argument about truth itself and its actual nature anyway: no one among us knows it, not even he whose aspirations may be directed towards it. For all of us it is first of all a matter of proving ourselves worthy.

Wasn't it Sévéros who said in his work on the Azoth that the divine nature does not reveal itself in the light of the ordinary sun, but in that chamber created by himself on the secret horizon, an inch square and hidden between two mountains, into which the alchemist himself must go?

So let us look out for the enlightening beings, for if we allow them access to our hearts, it will be they who accompany our work. But their power does not unfold in that place of silence where the voice is still forming, but out there, in the vastness, where the trinity of fire, water and air unfolds and the gentle whisper of wisdom can be heard. There, where man can help to ennoble the earth through deed and knowledge and to shape its order anew, so that it becomes habitable, from one end of heaven to the other, because there each one can perfect himself and attain his own perfection. It is precisely to this work that the enlightening beings have dedicated themselves.

But to ennoble our earth means that it may rise in glory and that its wisdom may unite with the wisdom above. For what no one here knows, and no one here recognizes, is the true essence of our nature, which forms the lower wisdom: this is founded in the depths of the earth and unfolds not only in its children, but also in the rising winds and even in the roar of the surf, also in the light of the moon and in the stillness of the night; we find it in our songs, in the joy and sadness that fills us. And when the beloved gently strokes her hand through our unruly hair, she is very close to us, as close as our own heartbeat. And then, when our inner sense opens, we can recognize her, in all her glory and beauty, which wants to fill our whole being.

The error that threatens to strangle us, the suffering and all the cruelty we experience are her defilements, which she has taken upon herself for our sake alone. Who would measure her essence by this?

Do you understand? This here too, this place of pain and sadness, is in its true and proper essence a part of the Garden of Eden. So the palm garden is not so far from us, it is here, right under our own noses, but no one looks. Yet it is enough to free ourselves from the grip of the lie and turn to the sacred wisdom with joy and awe.

Of course, all this is not true for everyone, and for some it is even "completely wrong".
 

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The pompous crap around here sometimes is near fanatical. You know your earth is dying right? Like, we are in the dead middle of the fastest executed mass extinction event in global history (according to the scientists and fossil record).

There is no "elevating" of the earth by humans. If this happens, it will be due to either divine, or natural consequence. Humans (in their current state) are a disease (and are, themselves diseased).

The Truth? What do you peeps mean by that? Let me tell you exactly what the truth is.

The Truth, is the account of everything that ever happened. Ever. In all places of the universe. That's what the truth is. Just an accurate account of all things that have ever occurred. The abstract nature of modern man's philosophy is dog shit. It achieves no purpose in the slightest and these musing are but vanity, to be swept away with all the other filth that is soon to have its end. There is no benevolent "truth" outside of just, what was, what is, and what will be. Perhaps that truth may involve some epic divine intervention. But then if that happens, than even still, not at all abstract. Jesus rocking up with a horde of Angles to fix the planet after we destroy it. There is nothing abstract about that. Its not a metaphor right? Like the Christians believe that Jesus LITERALLY comes and saves the day.

I feel like to describe "The Truth" in any other way than just, what was, what is, and what will be, is simply just a wank.

And there was a time when I enjoyed wanking. (both metaphorically and literally) but the "Truth" is that your ocean will be fucking dead in 20 years. That's the truth. Nuclear apocalypse I'm sure will help that along no doubt.

While you 'philosophers' are sitting around wanking. The billionaire satanists are WORKING. Do you know what that means? It means GETTING THINGS DONE.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,” a Quote Falsely Attributed to Edmund Burke

Enjoy "The Truth". Cause she fkn hurts baby.
 

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No elixirmixer. Here and now the truth is exactly what I said: All this does not apply to everyone, and for some it is even "completely wrong".

In any case, it is anything but clear which of us is actually talking crap. It is absolutely clear to me that you have absolutely no idea what I was talking about here.

Nevertheless, thank you for your open and honest answer (even if I wasn't necessarily addressing you). Of course, it's good to know who you're actually dealing with and what the other really thinks, but that doesn't matter now anyway. Because I have now understood that very well: I am in the wrong place here, I really have no idea what else to do here. So before it gets out of hand and disgusting, I'd better say farewell.

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Because I have now understood that very well: I am in the wrong place here, I really have no idea what else to do here. So before it gets out of hand and disgusting, I'd better say farewell.

vee

Hello Merovee.

A couple of weeks ago I faced something similar. I just stopped it, because nothing of value would come from it.
The problem with truth is that truth is not an opinion. Truth is above it.

Not the individual truth, but the true faith, fruit or opus. In our art is very easy to see if something is true or not. Or you have it, or you don't.

You Will Know Them by Their Fruits

15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thorn bushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

I do appreciate your posts.

At least, before going away, know that you have someone that takes your writings under consideration.

All my best;

C.
 

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No elixirmixer. Here and now the truth is exactly what I said: All this does not apply to everyone, and for some it is even "completely wrong".

In any case, it is anything but clear which of us is actually talking scrap. It is absolutely clear to me that you have absolutely no idea what I was talking about here.

Nevertheless, thank you for your open and honest answer (even if I wasn't necessarily addressing you). Of course, it's good to know who you're actually dealing with and what the other really thinks, but that doesn't matter now anyway. Because I have now understood that very well: I am in the wrong place here, I really have no idea what else to do here. So before it gets out of hand and disgusting, I'd better say farewell.

vee

Oh Merovee. No need to go anywhere. Please don't take my new found lack of tolerance for the air coming out of humans mind as a personal attack. It isn't. I think all humans are equally stupid and deluded. Probably myself most of all.

But if this is the wrong place... tell me... what does the right place look like?

In my experience of searching under every rock of this world, I think you'll find that all places are equally shit. Some are just better at hiding their hollowness then others.

Also, C, I don't claim to be a prophet, although I am increasingly getting better and better at foretelling the future. And I am in no means a ravenous wolf. My outbursts are closer that that of Solomon's Ecclesiastics: "All is vanity."

But yes. Perhaps my outbursts do no good for anyone. I will cease.
 

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No elixirmixer. Here and now the truth is exactly what I said: All this does not apply to everyone, and for some it is even "completely wrong".

In any case, it is anything but clear which of us is actually talking scrap. It is absolutely clear to me that you have absolutely no idea what I was talking about here.

Nevertheless, thank you for your open and honest answer (even if I wasn't necessarily addressing you). Of course, it's good to know who you're actually dealing with and what the other really thinks, but that doesn't matter now anyway. Because I have now understood that very well: I am in the wrong place here, I really have no idea what else to do here. So before it gets out of hand and disgusting, I'd better say farewell.

vee
Hello Merovee, I'm asking you to stay here as I feel you are an important part of this forum.

Your opinion on this forum is equally important as everyone else.

I appreciate what you write even if I don't always agree with it.

I feel it is important that we and others that read these posts get to see several different points of view ... by this our perspective can be expanded to enable us with an evolution in the Work.

Diversity and challenge can be paramount in advancing our thought.
 

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Also, C, I dont claim to be a prophet, although I am increasingly getting better and better at fortelling the future. And I am in no means a ravenous wolf. My outbursts are closer that that of Solomon's Ecclesiastics: "All is vanity."

But yes. Perhaps my outbursts do no good for anyone. I will cease.

My answer was not directed to you EM.

It was just to show Merovee that a week or so ago, I was also debating things with Black. I Just stop it because nothing would come from that discussion. I have no patience to debate semantics, or take a word out of context and argue with it.

What is the purpose of a forum? Isn't it a place to debate and learn based on personal experiences? It is for me... Otherwise, I was just reading and not "talking". :)

Black has his way of defending the "lady". It's telling what is not! A Kind of negativist theology: God is Indefinable, Ineffable etc. By telling what is not, by default you will get what He Is. It's not really my way of thought or act so I foresee more debates with him in the future :D

But I do understand Merovee because there's a difference between someone who has a mentor/teacher/adept in a specific path with a specific corpus, and someone who learns by himself through time. Not judging what is better or worse, but bringing to the table what is more efficient and effective vs. the loss of time and superfluous things/paths/ways of working.

Time is short and precious. And the time spent here, writing and sharing is time not spent on other things like reading or doing work and experiences.

Me best to all;

C.
 

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I agree with Mr. Black; Merovee. If I am turning a little cold in the recent years, all themore reason to have someone warmer such as yourself to balance it out. I apologize, reading back through my message I can see that it was indeed over-the-top aggressive, and for no reason, since I also value the opinions of others even if I think they might be wrong.

I also suffer from bipolar and have a stressful lifestyle. Don't let my short comings prevent you from gaining the value to be gained from this place. I'm sure my behavior in some way probably broke forum rules all together and I do not often see someone be such an asshole as I have come across in the previous message. So don't let one thorn spoil the rose for you, please.

Best regards.

(edit) Thanks you for the clarification C.
 

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Logistical Post

This thread (along with a few others) starts to sound more like a group therapy session/slash/who's "right" and who's "wrong" debate (plus the occasional doses of pontificating & grandstanding), rather than something even remotely related to "Salt & Water" or whatever the topic of the thread happens to be. Not saying, just saying. If you guys feel there's stuff to be ironed out, by all means, have at it. This forum is what its members make of it.
 

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I can make levity salts too bitches!
This one was saltpeter (done during Australian covid lockdown in late 2021).
I first used standard table salt and got similar result to the others already posted.

I also found that the same effect occurs with sodium hydroxide... and weirdly as the sodium hydroxide starts to gain levity it becomes quite benign and non-corrosive.
 

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Bruh I put my vortrapped well water in a glass with bunch of salt and forgot it in a drawer for a few eons. When I came back it had climbed out of the tall glass and was crystallizing outside the glass halfway down, I collected the crystals and they taste like fish ormus.
 

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To anyone sufficiently patient to repeat an experiment of such nature enough times, whether "externally" or "internally", shall be plainly revealed the mysteries of Alchemy, Reality and Liberation.
But would a practical experiment lead to the revelation of spiritual secrets, and a spiritual experiment to reveal practical secrets?
 

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But would a practical experiment lead to the revelation of spiritual secrets, and a spiritual experiment to reveal practical secrets?

Well, I'm not sure how much could be learned from a single experiment, but in principle, you are correct.

As the great alchemical "cartoon book" Mutus Liber says:



Occulatus abis.

"Having received the eye (read: the third eye), you leave."