. Red/White Powder Gold Calx by Mercury Distillations

[White Stage]

So I am working on the red stone and I need to make sophic gold to combine with the philosophical mercury that I already have. To this end, I looked at various ways to prepare a calx of gold and I think the process talked about by Robert Cox in his book could be very effective because it is purported to produce a red or white colored powder and this indicates very small particle cluster size.

As per plasmon resonance theory, I think red color gold powder is less than 20nm particle size. Recent studies show that gold at this particle size does not accumulate in the brain or anywhere else in the body. Particle sizes above 20nm were shown to accumulate, and this may be problematic for long term use. Also if you are making the red stone, ideal conditions for fusion (between gold and our mercury) favor smaller particle sizes. So, I am leaning towards this process that uses metallic mercury distillations (flying eagles) to produce red/white powder sophic gold.

Robert Cox said that this process is based on info from Nicolas Flammel and Eirenaeus Philalethes, but does anyone know where specifically it was that these alchemists talked about it? Can anyone point me to more info about this particular process or similar processes?

For reference this is an outline of the process based on Cox's book:

1. Dissolve regular yellow gold into molten antimony and allow to "digest over a certain but unspecified period of time".
2. Allow the alloy to cool, then crush it down finely, then mix it with liquid mercury. The gold amalgamates with the mercury but the antimony comes off as black dregs that are continuously washed away until all the dregs are gone.
3. Take the liquid mercury distill it in a retort. Some gold is left behind, some distills over with the merc.
4. Take the gold that didn't distill and re-fuse it with fresh antimony, then basically repeat steps 2 and 3 until all the gold has gone into the liquid mercury (takes about 7 or more repetitions)
5. The liquid mercury-gold amalgam is set to digest in a sealed vessel in a gentle heat and eventually the gold, separates out, as a white or red powder as it rises to the surface of the mercury. This white or red powder is then collected with a feather and stored as sophic gold either for ingestion, or union with our mercury.​

Does anyone have more info on this process or know if it actually works? I know Joe Lello talked about it, as we've seen in a recent thread, but I think most of his modifications to the process are not accurate.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

I need to make sophic gold to combine with the philosophical mercury that I already have. To this end, I looked at various ways to prepare a calx of gold

Calx of gold aka white powder gold is very difficult to make.
Very few people in the world have ever been able to produce it.
Philosophers mercury is more difficult still, nobody here can make that.
So if what you say is true, then you already succeeded at the most difficult task.

As you already seem to know...calx of gold added to philosophers mercury dissolves immediately into a red liquid.
But philosophers mercury should still dissolve metallic gold into red liquid you just need to use gold leaf, and it takes a bit of time is all.

So....just put some gold leaf into your "philosophical mercury" and try to dissolve it.
And....if it doesn't dissolve, then start over my friend because it'll mean that you don't actually have philosophical mercury.

For reference this is an outline of the process based on Cox's book:
1. Dissolve regular yellow gold into molten antimony and allow to "digest over a certain but unspecified period of time".
2. Allow the alloy to cool, then crush it down finely, then mix it with liquid mercury. The gold amalgamates with the mercury but the antimony comes off as black dregs that are continuously washed away until all the dregs are gone.
3. Take the liquid mercury distill it in a retort. Some gold is left behind, some distills over with the merc.
4. Take the gold that didn't distill and re-fuse it with fresh antimony, then basically repeat steps 2 and 3 until all the gold has gone into the liquid mercury (takes about 7 or more repetitions)
5. The liquid mercury-gold amalgam is set to digest in a sealed vessel in a gentle heat and eventually the gold, separates out, as a white or red powder as it rises to the surface of the mercury. This white or red powder is then collected with a feather and stored as sophic gold either for ingestion, or union with our mercury.

Does anyone have more info on this process or know if it actually works?

I don't see how that could possibly work.
IMO, if you run through this, then you'll just end up with metallic gold and tininitus/hand-tremors from mercury vapor absorbtion into your body.

It was only recently announced on the forum that Joe Lello is now deceased, so it didn't do him much good.

 

[Andro]

Ph. Mercury does not "dissolve" gold in the common sense of the word. Just put it on some gold leaves and observe what happens.

And yeah, if you've made the correct Ph. Mercury, pure gold leaf should be enough, if Gold is your Subject of Choice.

No need to make a "calx" and especially no need to risk your health with Hg, IMO.

PS: White Stage, welcome to Alchemy Forums! It would be nice of you to post an Introduction Thread!

 

[black]

Hi Ghetto

Calx of gold aka white powder gold is very difficult to make.

The only way to make genuine Alchemic "Calx of Gold" is via Philosophers mercury.

Very few people in the world have ever been able to produce it.

What you have stated here is most true Ghetto.

Philosophers mercury is more difficult still, nobody here can make that.

Not so Ghetto, there are Three (3) members that are still and have been working with
"Philosophers mercury" for many years.

So if what you say is true, then you already succeeded at the most difficult task.

I totally agree with you here Ghetto.
I would be very interested to hear if White Stage has put his "Philosophers mercury"
(SM, Secret Solvent, Our mercury) to the appropriate Tests required for such verification ?

As you already seem to know...calx of gold added to philosophers mercury dissolves immediately into a red liquid.

I would like to hear why you would assume that ?

So....just put some gold leaf into your "philosophical mercury" and try to dissolve it.
And....if it doesn't dissolve, then start over my friend because it'll mean that you don't actually have philosophical mercury.

Yes Ghetto, I fully concur. No proof = No Philosophers mercury.

I don't see how that could possibly work.
IMO, if you run through this, then you'll just end up with metallic gold and tininitus/hand-tremors from mercury vapor absorbtion into your body.

I agree 100%, if you follow those that write recipes that are nothing but rubbish then the only possible outcome of your work will be rubbish.

Any Alchemic Process using Mercury (Hg) is Total Rubbish.

 

[Kibric]

Any Alchemic Process using Mercury (Hg) is Total Rubbish

So Indian alchemy or Taoist external alchemy then, of which you have no experience or knowledge beyond google.
The making of a shivalingam that uses Hg is defined as a alchemical process by the oldest alchemical tradition in the world.
Your statement is completly false. As usual you act like an authority but anyone who supposedly studied alchemy for decades should know there are infact a few alchemical processes that use Hg and are used by traditions far older than western alchemy.

No proof = No Philosophers mercury.

Show us proof. Your words. Can you live up to them?

Just deflect again.

Puffer. Con artist. Liar. Larper.

You cant prove anything because you do no work.

 

[black]

Ph. Mercury does not "dissolve" gold in the common sense of the word.

How true.

Just put it on some gold leaves and observe what happens.

A small piece should instantly disappear leaving no trace at all.

No need to make a "calx" and especially no need to risk your health with Hg, IMO.

Such positive and well founded advise Andro.

 

[black]

Hey Kibric how are those lemons going ?

So Indian alchemy or Taoist external alchemy then, of which you have no experience or knowledge beyond google.
The making of a shivalingam that uses Hg is defined as a alchemical process by the oldest alchemical tradition in the world.
Your statement is completly false. As usual you act like an authority but anyone who supposedly studied alchemy for decades should know there are infact a few alchemical processes that use Hg and are used by traditions far older than western alchemy.

Mercury (Hg) is not required for Alchemy.

Have you ever worked an Alchemic Process

Show us proof. Your words. Can you live up to them?

Those that have worked with SM (Secret Solvent) can recognise what I work with and what I don't work with by my comments on this forum.

A good example of this is that it is very easy to recognise that someone working with milk will in no way be able to collect SM (Spiritus Mundi) EVER, it's totally impossible.

When you collect SM (Spiritus Mundi) we will then have a platform to converse on, but up to that point those that do not have SM (Spiritus Mundi) are only pissing in the wind.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Not so Ghetto, there are Three (3) members that are still and have been working with
"Philosophers mercury" for many years.

Did these 3 members ever provide tangible evidence to back up the claims of making p-mercury such as videos or pics?
Or how about independant witness testimony to back up the claim?
Or even better...simple instructions which the rest of us can follow to verify or refute?
Or how about some new information about properties of p-mercury that we've never heard before?
In the absence of any of the above...if all you have is the word of one person that they made p-mercury, but with no further details....then IMO it's simply information and not fact.

Me: calx of gold added to philosophers mercury dissolves immediately into a red liquid
Black: I would like to hear why you would assume that ?

I assume it because Cockren said it.

Cockren: [SOURCE HERE] When the Mercurial Water is added to these salts of gold, there is a slight hissing, an increase in heat, and the gold becomes a deep red liquid

Also, IMO it’s a fact that Cockren actually made p-mercury because he provided a detailed account of it’s properties including new information never seen before (nor since) in other texts.

 

[black]

Hi Ghetto

Did these 3 members ever provide tangible evidence to back up the claims of making p-mercury such as videos or pics?
Or how about independant witness testimony to back up the claim?
Or even better...simple instructions which the rest of us can follow to verify or refute?
Or how about some new information about properties of p-mercury that we've never heard before?

Are these the things that you would do if you had SM (Spiritus Mundi) ?

If your answer is in the affirmative then my opinion is that you will never have the door of Alchemy opened to you.

Do you understand why I would say that ?

Do you view Alchemy as a Sacred Divine Science ?

The knowledge of the Alchemic Processes are between the Alchemist and the Divine Light and Nobody Else ... Alchemy is a Personal Path that can assist our Personal Divine Evolution and not something to be shared around like a bottle of whiskey at a bucks party with the boys.

Ghetto, we are not talking about sharing a recipe for making scones here ... we are talking about Alchemy.

In the absence of any of the above...if all you have is the word of one person that they made p-mercury, but with no further details....then IMO it's simply information and not fact.

The three members that are working with SM have all added "further details" and
"information about properties" of SM over the years ... if you cared to take note.

Read and reread the form archive and you might learn something.

Me: calx of gold added to philosophers mercury dissolves immediately into a red liquid
Black: I would like to hear ..... why you would assume that ?

I assume it because Cockren ... said it.

Cockren: [SOURCE HERE] When the Mercurial Water is added to these salts of gold, there is a slight hissing, an increase in heat, and the gold becomes a deep red liquid

Yes this is correct ... BUT the important fact is this does not happen the first time that "the Mercurial Water is added to these salts of gold"

This is not an Initial Process of Alchemy it is one of the final Processes after the Alchemist has worked his way through all of the Metals, the Planets and the colours starting with the Black of Saturn, the black of Lead, the Death of Our Work.

Here is another important point you may choose to jot down in your Alchemy notes.
Or not.

Also, IMO it’s a fact that Cockren actually made p-mercury because he provided a detailed account of it’s properties including new information never seen before (nor since) in other texts.

Archibald Cochren did make "p-mercury" and he also obtained the P-Stone but was not fortunate enough to gain the understanding of Augmentation or Multiplication.

My Alchemic Work continues every day even if there are no members that believe anything that I say.

I will continue to add bits and pieces for those that care enough to take note.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Me: Did they ever provide tangible evidence ...such as videos or pics?
Me: Or...independant witness testimony...
Me: Or...simple instructions... to verify or refute
Me: Or ...new information about properties of p-mercury...
Black: Are these the things that you would do if you had SM (Spiritus Mundi) ?

ATM I’d like to say “yes” to the first one and “yes” to the last two..
In fact it’s my deeply held belief that it’s my life purpose to do those exact things.

Black: Alchemy is …. not something to be shared around like a bottle of whiskey at a bucks party with the boys

Such a beautiful metaphor, but IMO it’s more like a bottle of vodka cruiser, and most blokes pass it on without drinking from it because they negatively judge it as worthless due to it’s pink color.

Black: The three members that are working with SM have all added "further details" and
"information about properties" of SM over the years ... if you cared to take note.
Read and reread the form archive and you might learn something.

Why don’t you just say which posts, threads and members you think are valuable.
That way, your decades of alchemy experience would become an asset to the forum.
Any ignoramus can snarl “read the archives, you might learn something”, if you say it too, then IMO you’re wasting your potential value to the community.

 

[White Stage]

Here it is changing from black to white. Anyone else seen this before?

 

[Blacksmith]

View attachment 1865

Aqui está mudando de preto para branco. Alguém mais viu isso antes?

O que você fez com o mercúrio para que isso acontecesse ou foi espontâneo?

 

[black]

Robert Cox said that this process is based on info from Nicolas Flammel and Eirenaeus Philalethes, but does anyone know where specifically it was that these alchemists talked about it? Can anyone point me to more info about this particular process or similar processes?

Does anyone have more info on this process or know if it actually works? I know Joe Lello talked about it, as we've seen in a recent thread, but I think most of his modifications to the process are not accurate.

In the hope that this post may save some or many from wasting their time and money.

Just like so many other pretenders, Robert Cox knows nothing about Alchemy.