Possible Explanations Of How The Philosopher's Stone Works

[thrival]

Andro:

Point well taken. (I am not so good at using all the board's technical features yet, for example I have no idea how you managed to quote two people in one post window.)

As for how the stone works (apart from the Book of Aquarius explanation of it being concentrated "life energy" which is quite good), I've noticed from studying different alchemy recipes, that often a salt is joined to one or more metals. The salt is a metal and an acid combination that has found chemical equilibrium. By adding additional metals this balance is upset and cannot find equilibrium again unless additional acid(s) are added. It's rather like a group of neighbors on a snowy day, all needing to use but one snow shovel. This would make the substance very chemically active, as the ingredient in short supply, gets passed around.

How it works in the body: Humans are made of mostly gases (H2O & N) and a relatively small amount of minerals. Anything able to effect transmutations on substances many times it's weight would have effect on those ingredients that human bodies are made. However humans have absolutely no control of how ingredients are allocated internally, so a goodly amount must be handled by a Higher Source that's responsible for other unconscious, autonomic events of a given human pattern. A "Higher Self," if you will, and something none of us can take credit for.

 

[Seth-Ra]

Wow, you guys sure like to split hairs.

Clarify, actually.

To say that only spirit is real is to be part of the Mary Baker Eddy ranks.

If you say so, i wasnt there.

Spirit invented matter to have something to work through within those domains.

Spirit is within all things - all matter. But simply moving components around, does not equate to communing or harmonizing with the Spirit within the matter - it is not knowing and working the matter, its just moving parts around to see what happens, if anything.

And I'm (not) the first to admit or say that religion & science are twin sisters. All I'm saying is that some things are quite well understood by those who have bodies, without appealing to a higher plane, which also exists. There's a time and a place for everything, hopefully you won't be importuning heaven when your (physical) remedy is right at hand.

There is no physical remedy, that was not born of Spirit. If a cure is there, it is from Above, manifest Bellow. If you use Bellow as a magnet to attract the Above, same difference - but the source is the same.

Nature is a collection of created things, that spirit(s) can use. It's creation on another level than what humans are privy. The best we can do is rearrange its parts.

Nature is a living Spirit(s), collective aspects of the One, as are we. We are totally privy to these realms, if we are willing and ready to be so. The best thing we can do is commune with the Spirit.

Fewer people, hmmm. You wouldn't be part of the Georgia Guidestones crowd? Earth is both a safety net and a launchpad for fallen ...man, and at some point will have served its purpose.

Lol, no im not part of that crowd. Balance, however, will be maintained.
As for the rest of it - we shall see.

Lastly, you said:

However humans have absolutely no control of how ingredients are allocated internally, so a goodly amount must be handled by a Higher Source that's responsible for other unconscious, autonomic events of a given human pattern. A "Higher Self," if you will, and something none of us can take credit for.

Since our Higher Self, is us, we can indeed take credit for it - and by communion with our Higher Self, as with all of Spirit, we can determine how things internally are handled, as well as externally.

If you disagree with me, thats perfectly fine, im not trying to argue, and i understand if you cant see what im saying. I must say it, nevertheless. *raises a glass* Cheers.

Also, on a more general note, please let's all at least try to stay focused on the original topic of this discussion, which is: Possible explanation of how the Philosopher's Stone works.

Alternatively, the more off-topic posts can be relocated to a new/different thread.

Thanks.

Very true, and my apologies if ive gone off topic. The crux of my comments, are that the Stone works off of the Life/Spirit itself: both the energy poured into the Thing, and the relationship between it and the user = The relationship between the micro-artist's Spirit and the Macro-All/One Spirit.




~Seth-Ra

 

[thrival]

Spirit is within all things - all matter. But simply moving components around, does not equate to communing or harmonizing with the Spirit within the matter - it is not knowing and working the matter, its just moving parts around to see what happens, if anything.

I agree, it "doesn't equate to communing or harmonizing with the Spirit within the matter," and most people who are looking for a healing, aren't looking to do either of those first two things, they just want to be well, so they avail themselves of materials that historically or anecdotally or through double-blind studies (faith not required) have been shown to work. Also I would mention that faith isn't a bad thing but can often be misplaced; that's why humans practice the scientific method and God isn't ag'in it, except maybe where it equates to looking a gift-horse in the mouth.

There is no physical remedy, that was not born of Spirit. If a cure is there, it is from Above, manifest Bellow. If you use Bellow as a magnet to attract the Above, same difference - but the source is the same.

While rigorously true, fact is the material was laid down a long-time ago, and what people are most familiar with. And again I don't think most people are trying to attract anything beyond properties that already exist in the matter. Most people go to church on Sundays and that's the extent of their communing and attracting. Kids, commerce and keeping themselves entertained are all big distractions to what you're talking about

Nature is a living Spirit(s), collective aspects of the One, as are we. We are totally privy to these realms, if we are willing and ready to be so. The best thing we can do is commune with the Spirit.

Not sure nature is One spirit, though I'd say manifestation of the One, no wait, I won't say that because the One delegates His powers to make it a collective enterprise that not everyone shares in equally, or benefits equally, except maybe a certain "common ground." And while I believe theoretically "we are totally privy to these realms," in practice it ain't necessarily so, at least not for most people who are quite preoccupied, wrestling with their karma, and their neighbors.

Lol, no im not part of that crowd. Balance, however, will be maintained. As for the rest of it - we shall see.

Yup-per.


Lastly, you said:

Since our Higher Self, is us, we can indeed take credit for it - and by communion with our Higher Self, as with all of Spirit, we can determine how things internally are handled, as well as externally.

Actually you are not your Higher Self just yet, but an imperfect facsimile, an experiment with all the possibilities of failure, going through a purification process before being upgraded. The Creator and the created are not on equal standing, and not all things are within any individual's power, internally or externally, and to "believe" otherwise won't do you much good, although you are free to try until you meet any particular ...wall. Also the only recent example we have was Christ who never took credit but in fact gave his Higher Self / "Father" all the credit. (Calling ourselves God is a very gross delusion, and doesn't split hairs or clarify enough. It's kind of like mixing a bunch of colors together and calling it white; while white might have all colors in it, the reverse is not also true, but by matter of degree.)

Very true, and my apologies if ive gone off topic. The crux of my comments, are that the Stone works off of the Life/Spirit itself: both the energy poured into the Thing, and the relationship between it and the user = The relationship between the micro-artist's Spirit and the Macro-All/One Spirit.

Some philosophers say that beyond assembling the proper ingredients in a glass, at the necessary heat and for the required time period, nature makes the stone without any further human input, feelings or beliefs not-withstanding, and would do it's job in nature, whether or not a person were standing in the woods to hear a tree fall.

In Chinese medicine, correcting a person's philosophy is considered the highest form of healing, and got more than a few doctors killed.

 

[Ghislain]

Great discussion above, but there has not been a lot of emphasis on what the finished stone is.

IMO the finished stone, if one were to achieve it, would be you.

If that is the case then the only place the answer to the question this thread poses, "Possible
explanation of how the philosophers stone works", can come from is you.

I guess you will know when you have that answer.

Ghislain

Edit: If one wants to look into aging then a good start may be to read up on Telomerase.

 

[Seth-Ra]

Thrival,

Im afraid i wont continue this train of discussion here, for not wanting to go "off topic" in this thread. I also dont feel it will do you any good at your current stage. I advise, with all sincerity, that you dont get caught up on what "most people" look at or are after (illusion and masks) - as they dont know what they are after, and are, in a lot of ways, lost in the distractions, by their own choice a lot of times. Its not for everyone, but those that will hear/see - same for the Salvation Christ offered.
Also, He did claim to be one with the Father also. Its a fine line between viewing self as micro, and macro, simultaneously.

________

Ghislain,

The finished stone is indeed you, even if made outside of you. As within, so without.

____

In short (and pertinent to the discussion above), the Stone is akin to God in a bottle. You only get what you are able to receive, just like in a spirit-to-spirit discussion/encounter with others also. A metal doesnt get transmuted unless it is opened, neither does a person. Spirit may make its manifestations and form this beloved Item - but it is unseen by all but the initiated (Stone the builders rejected).
The Artist that understands and is willing, can take of the Stone and live for centuries - yet - using this same Stone, on one who only believes in its ability to heal their affliction(s), it will do that, and only that, cause thats what they are open to get from it.




~Seth-Ra

 

[thrival]

I advise, with all sincerity, that you dont get caught up on what "most people" look at or are after (illusion and masks) - as they dont know what they are after, and are, in a lot of ways, lost in the distractions, by their own choice a lot of times. Its not for everyone, but those that will hear/see - same for the Salvation Christ offered.

Also, He did claim to be one with the Father also. Its a fine line between viewing self as micro, and macro, simultaneously.

________

Ghislain,

The finished stone is indeed you, even if made outside of you. As within, so without.

____

In short (and pertinent to the discussion above), the Stone is akin to God in a bottle. You only get what you are able to receive, just like in a spirit-to-spirit discussion/encounter with others also. A metal doesnt get transmuted unless it is opened, neither does a person. Spirit may make its manifestations and form this beloved Item - but it is unseen by all but the initiated (Stone the builders rejected).
The Artist that understands and is willing, can take of the Stone and live for centuries - yet - using this same Stone, on one who only believes in its ability to heal their affliction(s), it will do that, and only that, cause thats what they are open to get from it.

Seth-Ra:

Don't worry, I'm not caught up like that, I only used "distracted persons" as an example to show that healing happens for such people, children, animals, whether they give it their attention or not, take little or no credit, even less communing with "the One," (mostly inoperative faith) and using materials commonly agreed (whether by herbalists, nutritionists or the medical profession) to do something. The scientific method is defined by testing and an admission of ignorance, we don't know if it works, let's try it and see. Otherwise the stone could be anything we select per our own whims, but misplaced faith is just that.

Just because something works without ego doesn't make it wrong. It's important not to overrate one's own input; when the philosophers said it was womens' work and childs' play, I believe them. Even a witless person able to follow instructions, can bake a cake, if you show them how. (You don't need to know how an internal combustion engine works to drive a car, metaphorically speaking.) As for Jesus, yes there's a point when the human and Higher Self join forces; I don't think the line is so fine though, the proof is in one's expanded capacities. Also the word "oneness" has nuances of semantics.

If we were the stone then we wouldn't need to make and eat it to stay young. However I'm not saying it's impossible to concentrate internally, the necessary elements to stop eating, there are breatharians in history, and saints who died incorruptible (didn't decay.) Those who quit eating generally had some inner knowledge & practice, a boon from Higher Spirits in another realm; they didn't enlighten themselves. As for the stone and its effects I believe it stands alone on its own merits and the effects it produces, however and whomever put it in a glass and managed the fire.

 

[glenerson]

After you "concocted" the philosopher's stone, you will realize that matter is just an illusion and you are an spiritual being. After this realization, the actual matter is destroyed but things seem to exist because you and the surroundings that you operate in are still in an illusion.

This illusion, which the Buddhist/Hindus call "maya", will end if you die. You will not physically die because you don't exist physically but the illusion will only end. Your spirit is already within the Pleroma ("Fullness") but it is still not full since the illusion, which is the image of matter, which you destroyed using the philosophers stone, still exist within it. When you die, the void that the illusion makes will be full and the Pleroma which you're a part of will be full.

Philosopher's stone is the way to liberate yourself from matter. It is the trishula of Shiva, the destroyer. It destroys matter, unites you with God until the only thing that exist is You in/as God, nothing else.

 

[crestind]

After you "concocted" the philosopher's stone, you will realize that matter is just an illusion and you are an spiritual being. After this realization, the actual matter is destroyed but things seem to exist because you and the surroundings that you operate in are still in an illusion.

This illusion, which the Buddhist/Hindus call "maya", will end if you die. You will not physically die because you don't exist physically but the illusion will only end. Your spirit is already within the Pleroma ("Fullness") but it is still not full since the illusion, which is the image of matter, which you destroyed using the philosophers stone, still exist within it. When you die, the void that the illusion makes will be full and the Pleroma which you're a part of will be full.

Philosopher's stone is the way to liberate yourself from matter. It is the trishula of Shiva, the destroyer. It destroys matter, unites you with God until the only thing that exist is You in/as God, nothing else.

I agree with this. Fulcanelli seems to hint at something similar. Taoism suggests something similar. That with the stone, one is somehow able to transcend the limitations of what we perceive as reality, so that the limitations of physics no longer apply. And that is what alchemy is about, playing god. After all, when you are beyond the physical laws of the universe, are you not a god of sorts? The fast way to achieve this is the stone. The slow way is through meditation, some sort of mental training techniques. So essentially the person gains all the abilities of the stone.

(If you are one that frequents conspiracy sites, many claim that there is a great deal of symbolism in the media in regards to "ancient mysteries" and producers, etc. are all in on this. The Matrix is eerily similar to the whole idea of alchemy. That sometime in the past, an individual was able to see the Matrix as it was and break through its limitations, the Matrix being the physical universe. The pill down the rabbit hole is red? Coincidence?)

This is all good but it does not answer the question of how the stone works or what it is either. OP's idea regarding heavy water is reasonable and worth consideration. The stone can change physical matter, so it affects certain elements in the body as well. That certainly accounts for the abilities of the stone on the physical plane, but it certainly doesn't account for its abilities in the "astral" (or what have you) plane. It can affect your astral body in such a way that it becomes easy to depart the physical body. The stones from different elements are also said to have entirely different properties as well. The red Au stone is for healing, but it is the blue?/silver? Ag stone that opens up the astral senses.

So really what one would need to figure out is what the astral body is and what the stone itself is physically in the context of modern science. The idea that the stone is something charged with "life force" doesn't explain anything, because it does not explain the how.

 

[Ghislain]

So really what one would need to figure out is what the astral body is and what the stone itself is
physically in the context of modern science.

but maybe first find out what you are and what part you play.

Ghislain

 

[Dragonsblood]

but maybe first find out what you are and what part you play.

Ghislain

This should be quite the accomplishment - finding out what UR and the part One plays would require a good vantage point.

And this may be what the process of concocting and partaking of the stone does, that it provides an alternative point of view? Maybe in the same way that e.g. solving a Celtic knot requires operating through another dimension.

 

[Ghislain]

I'm sure an endoscope would suffice DB

It amazes me that people live within their own bodies every minute of every day, but many
fail basic secondary education biology, the science about themselves. I am guilty of this.

We then try to understand the universe and all that is...is this not trying to run before you
can walk?

Sort of like trying to soup-up an engine before you know how the engine works.

In the words of Maria Von Trapp, "let's start at the very begining, a very good place to start"

Try "THESE" interactive tests.

Ghislain

 

[Andro]

In the words of Maria Von Trapp, "let's start at the very beginning, a very good place to start"

Then by all means, start with creating/discovering your 'Heaven' & 'Earth'.

(Or 'Uranus' & 'Gaia' plus many other mythical/allegorical references)

I'm quite sure the rest would be quite self-explanatory

(I'm not joking, BTW)

 

[Archangel]

It is not a coincidence that HARM is in pharmacy.

Good one!

 

[elixirmixer]

I wish i had the extreme quoting skills to get quotes from a couple pages back and ones from here ect... but alas...

I have to debunk you here ghetto with the radiation bit. (At least if we are considering normal, known forms of radiation)

Getting hit with neutron radiation is the equivalent of having a million nano needles, fired through the barrel of a gun, right at your DNA. You do not want to put an item in your body that is bombarding the absolute crap out of your nerves, DNA, brain, eye retina, all at the same time, particles that are so small that it can go right through a nuceli and cut a piece of your DNA right in half!

Message!?: DON'T EAT RADIATION

point 2: Loved the reference to Christs dual consciousness. Epic.

point 3: IMHO The Stone works similar to what ghetto has initially described. It flushes out a lot of water, and with it, a soup of old toxins, dead and cancerous cells, while actively protecting healthy cells... and all in the matter of a few hours or a few days....

MMMMYYyyyyyy...... way of thinking how the biological happenings may occur, is to consider how quickly this process is happening... we are talking billions of cells getting purged every second, others being protected, others getting tossed all together....

I believe that this will require some very complex (or alternatively, devilishly simple) cell signalling. For those not in the biology know, that is basically when cells use certain molecules such are steriols or special carbohydrates to talk to each other.

To cut a long explanation down... i think that the stone contains a type of STEROID. This is the 'new addition to our arsenal' of hormones that basically goes around and starts slapping cells back into gear.

This in my opinion also requres a huge energy transfer... for all of this complex detoxing, and with little to no preparation for such a thing, the body would require A LOT of AVAILABLE energy.

So if this STEROID was then able to go around, talk to and give the free energy required, it could say to all the cells, "Okay guys, here's some back up energy to cover your output quota for today! Now take a break mate and just work on your detoxing."

That is my conclusion................ After self analysis, i believe that this theory supports the GW method as a true path to Stone-hood as urine would offer the complex biological molecules (there not that complex, but hard for us lazy poor alchemists to create in the lab) required to create a (Gold-Steroid)!

I also believe that the Stone would offer a few different molecules, one for DNA regeneration aswell... the Steroid would be for 'outside' the cell, and another molecule for 'inside'

Just a theory....

 

[Awani]

...i think that the stone contains a type of STEROID... the body would require A LOT of AVAILABLE energy...

It could be that nothing can be created, everything is already created... so in terms of energy you cannot make any new energy. There is only x amount (and this amount is more than enough). So the way I see what you are saying about this STEROID is what could be said of the mind - or will of the mind. So I guess symbolically a Stone could be made, but internally it is already made.

Just a theory....

Anything I say is that, and anything anyone says to me is received like that.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Mr Mixer, it seems you saying the p-stone works by simply acting as a steroid.
I assume then that you must believe that the fact that many old texts describing the effects of hair, teeth and fingernails falling out and the fact the radiation poisoning produces the exact same effect on people, is merely a coincidence.

Perhaps it is a coincidence, but I don't think so personally.

I often imagine that an adult with a youthful appearance, but no hair or teeth might look like a bit like a newly born baby. So I sometimes wonder, when Jesus was quoted as saying you have to be born again to enter the kingdom of heaven, was he using metaphor to refer to the effects of taking the p-stone?
Just an idea is all.

 

[elixirmixer]

I believe Jesus was referring to the death of the natural man and the replacement with the spiritual man, (He could also have meant to die in this world and be born of spirit into the astral realms...) which could coincide with the taking of the p-stone.

I do love the idea of hair, teeth, and nails falling out, but i don't think its radiation poisoning. I do think it is a coincidence, and that in the case of radiation poisoning, the body is falling apart, in the case of the p-stone, i feel the body is just dropping what it no longer needs.

I don't think the p-stone acts 'just' as a steroid, but that this is one of many mechanisms used by the Stone to interact with our cells and cause these mighty changes.

I have decided also that i'm going to attempt a P-Stone run... Wish me luck.

 

[Voltaire]

what are you referring to when you say "the philosopher's stone" ?

There are 7 different variations of any one thing in all isoteric arts;
The philosopher's stone, the "cornerstone" of masonry, the "elixir of life" etc; these are all different for each individual person based on your birthday...

The Philosopher's stone isn't a stone... it's fundamentally more of an elixir comprised of certain ingredients depending on your star sign; these will physically allow you to deliver gold from heaven to earth... without them you just don't have the correct material.

There is a chemical out there that shorts the need for all this, all the elixirs, meditations, work, etc;
it provides an "instant enlightenment", although it's not known about to ordinary members of the public, and carries some side-effects.
It's also slightly "unstable" you could say
and is of itself not a means I would recommend - should you over come across it.

 

[Awani]

what are you referring to when you say "the philosopher's stone" ?

Well this is the great debate. Here are some threads:

• Is Spiritual Alchemy a valid path?
• Pseudo chemistry

The Philosopher's stone isn't a stone... it's fundamentally more of an elixir comprised of certain ingredients depending on your star sign...

I somewhat agree with the "isn't a stone" bit, but IMO it has nothing to do with star signs.

There is a chemical out there that shorts the need for all this, all the elixirs, meditations, work, etc;
it provides an "instant enlightenment", although it's not known about to ordinary members of the public, and carries some side-effects.
It's also slightly "unstable" you could say
and is of itself not a means I would recommend - should you over come across it.

Do you mean DMT? And if so what side effects? But if you say this drug is Ketamine then I reserve the right to disagree with your claims (till I have a direct experience myself).

 

[ghetto alchemist]

scientists still can´t agree on what actually causes aging

Check out this video for a potential groundbreaking discovery about not only the cause of aging, but also a possibility to reverse it:

NB: if you can't afford the above high tech treatment, then consider the ghetto version, which is to breathe in some DIY prana gas.

 

[Widur]

Check out this video for a potential groundbreaking discovery about not only the cause of aging, but also a possibility to reverse it:

NB: if you can't afford the above high tech treatment, then consider the ghetto version, which is to breathe in some DIY prana gas.

Great shit!
Have you ever seen the description of people taking muppu(indic three salts version of the stone)?
In celestial agriculture thread.
Also, do you think that "Dippels Tieröl"(Conrad Dippels animal oil) which he destilled of bones and other stuff, contained some of this proteins mentioned in the video?

 

[Widur]

That ORGON/DOR Dualismus is the big key.
If we understand how the energys are related we have all the keys I think.
Soo...
As you maybe know, I think life-force/prana/etc. is in fact ORDER force.
Which is applied by certain carriers: Neutrons, gaia particles, light, information stored in crystals, etc.

And I tend to think that there are different modes of gaia particles, different information so to say.
Maybe resembling stuff like sol, luna, etc.

I think that energies and fields are orthogonal to each other, like electricity and magnetism.
Meaning I think there might be one ORDER force generated by magnetism, one by electricity, one by light, etc.

One life force for each dead force
(although here Im not sure)!
Like ORGON and DOR.
Or the healing energies from magnetism and electricity.

I always thought there maybe one plant stone, one animal stone, one metal stone and maybe a universal stone, although it could be identical with the metal stone.
At least the first 3 should be achievable by wet and dry way(although I dont know so much about these).
Maybe for the universal stone you need that secret fast way with pure sm.
However, now I am not that sure about it all after reading this thread.

I thought that the different stones operated with different modes of gaia particles.
They contain an equilibrium of forces and from that generate a certain mode of gaia particle or spin them to a certain mode or if you like it better, amplify and tune the exotic energy waves to a certain frequency.

So I thought the metal stone would generate DEAD order force, maybe identical to DOR.
While the animal stone generates LIFE ORDER force, ORGON.
Idk about the plant stone, equilibrium of both?
Different mode of ORGON?

However, now I think I was wrong.
There are different modes of life force,
but I think its all about carrier, mode and receiver.
They have to fit together.
Like when good energy makes a bad reaction cause of sulphur, a wrong receiver in that case.
But a good with oxygen.
(I think here the key is the constellations/frequency/energy amounts/movements of the electron configuration, which forms something like a lock for the right key!)

Or when radiation causes healing.
The force can somehow in the right mode and amount interact in a good way.
Or causes an orthogonal healing force.

Certain calcium crystals are transducing information via light in our genes, according to Gr. Merkl's work.
I wonder if theres lot of calcium around Lourdes.
Maybe its not the radiation alone. Hmm.
Back to theme.

Now it seems that the stone provides the same energy on humans as on metals.
So was I wrong till now?
Or was it the wrong stone, but the quality of order that high that even the metal stone does good for humans?
But I tend to think that I was wrong.
Or is the radiation not the healing energy but only an orthogonal side product of such strong healing energy?
What do you think?

Maybe the stone is carrier, transducer and receiver in one? Theres always a salt it seems.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Have you ever seen the description of people taking muppu(indic three salts version of the stone)?
In celestial agriculture thread.

No, I have not seen this.
Can you provide a link?

Also, do you think that "Dippels Tieröl"(Conrad Dippels animal oil) which he destilled of bones and other stuff, contained some of this proteins mentioned in the video?

I don't know anything about this animal oil you speak of.
Link?

There are different modes of life force,
but I think its all about carrier, mode and receiver.
They have to fit together.

Vladimirv also thinks there's different kinds of "ORMUS" (IMO "ORMUS" in this case is the same thing as "life force").
FWIW, I imagine that there's only 1 kind, that that is has different energy levels and varying effects depending on various circumstances and conditions.

Or is the radiation not the healing energy but only an orthogonal side product of such strong healing energy?
What do you think?

I think the radiation is a side effect.
I'm not sure if I made it clear in this thread, but IMO the radiation effects are due to all cellular heavy water converting into light water and emitting free neutrons.
It's easy enough to test that theory.
It would mean that a 25 year old person would have reduced radiation effects (teeth, hair and nails falling out) than a much older person after consuming the stone.
But if the 25 year old is affected just as badly as the 100 year old, then obviously I'm wrong about that and the cause of the radiation effects must be something else.

 

[Widur]

No, I have not seen this.
Can you provide a link?

I will. I am currently rereading the thread and its not on the first 4 sites. When I see it Ill link it.

I don't know anything about this animal oil you speak of.

No link I saw it on TV more than once.
But its famous.
Dippel is THE paragon of Dr. Frankenstein!
He lived and worked on Frankenstein castle, doing animal alchemy.
The people around hated him cause he was supposed to dig out corpses.

Vladimirv also thinks there's different kinds of "ORMUS" (IMO "ORMUS" in this case is the same thing as "life force").
FWIW, I imagine that there's only 1 kind, that that is has different energy levels and varying effects depending on various circumstances and conditions.

Yes I also believe that theres 1 something like e.g. gaia particles, which different energy levels and conditions ARE the different kinds of life force.

They have different effects e.g. on oxygen and sulphur depending on their energy levels and conditions.
But I tend to think its just the main carrier or transducer of information.
And there maybe other carriers.
Like light or maybe coherent spin in other particles.

I dont really know about ORMUS too.
Tend to think we really work with HIM/ gaia particles.
But it may be a different carrier.
Maybe newly created.

think the radiation is a side effect.
I'm not sure if I made it clear in this thread, but IMO the radiation effects are due to all cellular heavy water converting into light water and emitting free neutrons.

Aah...now I get it!
I thought the radiation would heal, but no its the bad shit going off.
That makrs more sense.

 

[Widur]

, I have not seen this.
Can you provide a link?

Here the first mention. But more will come.
Post in thread 'The Celestial Agriculture' https://alchemyforums.com/index.php?threads/the-celestial-agriculture.2451/post-18033

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Post in thread 'The Celestial Agriculture' https://alchemyforums.com/index.php?threads/the-celestial-agriculture.2451/post-18498

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