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Ormus Effects on Body: Analysis

Larry Hall

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Well then I think the first thing I would want to say is there's a difference between Ormus and ORMEs.

Ormus is typically a precipitate of Dead Sea salt, as all the Ormus people would have you use. Some "practitioners" think it's just a magnesium salt, and that most people are deficient in magnesium, thus the healing benefits. Not very surprising that there's not a lot of double-blind and placebo-controlled studies on these sorts of preparations.

ORMEs on the other hand are orbitally rearranged monoatomic elements. And this, from what I gather, is the original name of the 'white powder' which Hudson discovered.

Ormus I doubt would regrow a cat's tail.

ORMEs, from the research I've read, could possibly achieve that result.


Let's not discuss etymologies.

I'm referring to the stuff that was made known by David Hudson, call it Ormus or ORME or whatever.

The main thing is, according to his research, it's everywhere, in the air we breath, the water flowing, the soil.
If his research is true then this is one of the basis of biological life.

It was found by him that a brain of a calf has 5% of it's weight as Ormus.

The body take it from air and food and water, but doesn't retain it forever, it has to be replenished.
 
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Please take a look at this patent here:


See the images, the researcher here was able to make the patient middle finger after a traumatic amputation of one half the distal phalanx at the level of the base of the nail competently regenerate itself, including bones and nerves.

This was accomplished without using any Ormus or other magical substances.

Only an electric current and a piece of silver.

I'm not going to explain the detail, if you want them you can read the whole patent, but in a nutshell he makes the adult stem sells in the severed member turn to embryonic stem cells which in turn have the ability to multiply and build the missing part from scratch, just like a fetus.

There are also some animals that can regenerate entire missing limbs.

But humans and most animals can't, it turns out that's because when they damage a member or a part of the body, the nerves ending are damaged too and there isn't a good communication between CNS, brain and the damaged part so it can't kick-start the regenerating process.

Now the superconductivity feature of the Ormus become more interesting, maybe it is what's allowing the regenerating process, or at least one of the factors.

You may find the research of prof. Michael Levin interesting.


His experiments are based on bioelectric theory. He was able to regenerate a limb of a frog or create a new one in a random position. He showed also that he can "instruct" a kind of regenerative worm to generate new eyes or new heads, all functional.

It is supposed that the new limbs have the same length of telomers as the original organism.
 

Larry Hall

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You may find the research of prof. Michael Levin interesting.


His experiments are based on bioelectric theory. He was able to regenerate a limb of a frog or create a new one in a random position. He showed also that he can "instruct" a kind of regenerative worm to generate new eyes or new heads, all functional.

It is supposed that the new limbs have the same length of telomers as the original organism.
Thank you for this, it's all about electricity.
 

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Homeopathy and water from healing spring can't make your hair grow back to dark color, or regenerate a cat tail.

There is not a single instance in history where someone grew back a severed limb or member.

You can live in the most healthy place in the world that you can find oozing with life force or HIM as you call it, and you hair will not grow dark and you will not regenerate a damaged part of your body.

The body is amazing in itself and doesn't need a mysterious life force, what it need is the activation of it's intrinsic features.

And although it seems Fairy talish there is now actual scientific evidence for that.

Hey Larry,

Here is an interesting account of someone being healed from a pool(vision restored).
Also featuring the son of God, some saliva and clay.
"And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay, And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing. The neighbours therefore, and they which before had seen him that he was blind, said, Is not this he thats sat and begged? Some said, This is he: others said, He is like him: but he said, I am he. Therefore said they unto him, How were thine eyes opened? He answered and said, A man that is called Jesus made clay, and anointed mine eyes, and said unto me, Go to the pool of Siloam, and wash: and I went and washed, and I received sight. Then said they unto him, Where is he? He said, I know not. ~ KJV John 9 Vrs 1-12

I argue that healing springs exist; but depending on the perception of the user, results may vary. In the above example; we can guess and relate this story to some of our own knowledge that perhaps Jesus knew of the purported healing properties of the pool of bethsaida, Perhaps he also knew that clay had its own medicinal uses, and that clay is what formed man in the beginning. It is not adverse to his body.Maybe he also knew, being of him that the spittle has the spark of life or biological activity from christ. The intention set with the will of the son of god "As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. When he has thus spoken," (He performs his healing act after this proclamation.The intention/receptivity or the out and in of the individial to do or recieve the healing is very important IN MY OPINION, still learning!

Think of a clay mixed with spit perhaps this is a sort of biologic/healing salve which then after some time gets flushed with water.
They do not mention in this text how long it took for the blind man to reach the pool; he was blind I am sure it took some time.
Of course this story features Jesus so the spit, clay and pool could be symbolic or more like props for the mans awesome power.

Sorry if that was a little off topic.
Redirecting..1.2.3.
I do think that many of the herbal elixir methods that are out there produce a product that is related to ormus;
The way to make ormus is essentially to get some good mineral (life) water; spring water, sea water etc. Hence the salt additions people make to substitute for good water. Heat, add some sortof alkaline fluid (Sodium hydroxide, potassium hydroxide, Sodium Carbonate, Potassium Carbonate (all aqueous) Not much different than mixing Essence of a plant with the salts leached from the ashes and then you can process it in different ways. For Ormus; we precipitate a "cloud" which falls to the bottom; then we pour off the top and rinse, repeat. In the herbal elixir you can leave it aqueous all mixed, or reduce the moisture and make a sortof stone or powder or wax or whatever, depends on a lot of factors. Sounds like ormus to me; just that the ormus is sort of using water as an essence and a liquid basic salt water as the body with the hopes of a manifestation.
Oh yeah just remembers there is complicated ORMUS making; my thoughts only apply to the "wet" or easy method. (Kitchen utensils baby!)

So can ORMUS heal? Why not, if tinctures and elixirs can then sure!
If structured water can, then why not!
Healing caves, springs etc.. many of these have things in common with ormus and spagyrics if you look rightly.
(Say's I who thinks)
 

Larry Hall

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Hey Larry,

Here is an interesting account of someone being healed from a pool(vision restored).
Also featuring the son of God, some saliva and clay.
"And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay, And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing. The neighbours therefore, and they which before had seen him that he was blind, said, Is not this he thats sat and begged? Some said, This is he: others said, He is like him: but he said, I am he. Therefore said they unto him, How were thine eyes opened? He answered and said, A man that is called Jesus made clay, and anointed mine eyes, and said unto me, Go to the pool of Siloam, and wash: and I went and washed, and I received sight. Then said they unto him, Where is he? He said, I know not. ~ KJV John 9 Vrs 1-12

I argue that healing springs exist; but depending on the perception of the user, results may vary. In the above example; we can guess and relate this story to some of our own knowledge that perhaps Jesus knew of the purported healing properties of the pool of bethsaida, Perhaps he also knew that clay had its own medicinal uses, and that clay is what formed man in the beginning. It is not adverse to his body.Maybe he also knew, being of him that the spittle has the spark of life or biological activity from christ. The intention set with the will of the son of god "As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. When he has thus spoken," (He performs his healing act after this proclamation.The intention/receptivity or the out and in of the individial to do or recieve the healing is very important IN MY OPINION, still learning!

Think of a clay mixed with spit perhaps this is a sort of biologic/healing salve which then after some time gets flushed with water.
They do not mention in this text how long it took for the blind man to reach the pool; he was blind I am sure it took some time.
Of course this story features Jesus so the spit, clay and pool could be symbolic or more like props for the mans awesome power.

Sorry if that was a little off topic.
Redirecting..1.2.3.
I do think that many of the herbal elixir methods that are out there produce a product that is related to ormus;
The way to make ormus is essentially to get some good mineral (life) water; spring water, sea water etc. Hence the salt additions people make to substitute for good water. Heat, add some sortof alkaline fluid (Sodium hydroxide, potassium hydroxide, Sodium Carbonate, Potassium Carbonate (all aqueous) Not much different than mixing Essence of a plant with the salts leached from the ashes and then you can process it in different ways. For Ormus; we precipitate a "cloud" which falls to the bottom; then we pour off the top and rinse, repeat. In the herbal elixir you can leave it aqueous all mixed, or reduce the moisture and make a sortof stone or powder or wax or whatever, depends on a lot of factors. Sounds like ormus to me; just that the ormus is sort of using water as an essence and a liquid basic salt water as the body with the hopes of a manifestation.
Oh yeah just remembers there is complicated ORMUS making; my thoughts only apply to the "wet" or easy method. (Kitchen utensils baby!)

So can ORMUS heal? Why not, if tinctures and elixirs can then sure!
If structured water can, then why not!
Healing caves, springs etc.. many of these have things in common with ormus and spagyrics if you look rightly.
(Say's I who thinks)

Very good analysis, you acknowledge the different probabilities, the verses being literal about Jesus abilities or metaphorical.

It's possible for miraculous healing springs to exist, I wouldn't be surprised, for example there is a research showing a plant used in chinese herbal medcine was able to make the telomeres length increase..

Normally they only decrease and they are one of the main factors that cause aging and death.

Here is the research paper


You didn't went off the topic, this IS the topic.

If Ormus is what we think it is, then all the elixirs are just methods to extract and concentrate it as you mentioned indeed.

Personally i prefer extracting plants instead of taking raw materials from sea or other places, plants are wise and they filter the bad from good, you minimize the chances of ingesting something harmful.

And the Ormus in plants is 100% ready to be used biologically by our bodies.