Micro Organisms for Health

[ghetto alchemist]

You desinfect your brewing bucket by filling up with water and adding hypochlorite bleach AND vinegar??

Yes, they do make chlorine, so you need to add them to the water separately.
Eg: don't mix them together on their own and then add to water.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

DOR is alpha particle radiation and HIM is Orgon/ restructuring, adding order/life.

IMO DOR is neutron radiation, otherwise I agree.
Check this pic from Don Nance of a stainless steel pot used to burn ormus precipitate using an electric hot plate (probably also sulfur)
[LINK].

Also this pic from the same substance placed in glass for a few minutes.

IMO, not only is this radiation only possible from neutrons, but it would also require the radiation to be super high energy neutrons.
[NB: In the video Don, says he believes it was beta and gamma radiation, obviously I disagree.]

Is it really one or the other or can both happen simultanously? What do you think?

I would say one reaction or the other occurs, but I suppose it might be the case that's both simultaneously with one more visible than the other.

I find it difficult to see sulphur as something bad as they are crucial for plants. Have you heard of the biodynamic nutrition chain?

No, haven't heard of that, I'll check it out.
And you're right sulfur can't really be that bad since it's essential to life.

I thought with oxygen only the good reaction can happen and with sulphur and fluor only the bad i thought. Not?

That's what I previously thought.
But as much as I hate to say it, the black sand experiment has shown that I'm wrong.
So IMO either, my whole HIM framework is totally wrong...OR...sulfur is simply a catalyst which initiates HIM reactions, and that it's the external conditions that steer the good or bad reaction (Eg: AC EMF, full moon, etc).
I was thinking about it and recalled that Terry did the copper to gold reaction and he was using sulfate ions (from sulfuric acid).
So it can't be as simple as I previously assumed.
I was thinking maybe sulfur is a metaphorical blasting cap for initiating an explosion in a stick of dynamite, but in this case a stick of highly charged HIM substance.
TBH, I'm feeling pretty burnt out from this theoretical stuff. I actually want to take a break from it and hand the torch down to others such as yourself for a spell.

Also as there is not always protium the HIM is otherwise attached to H atoms in molecules, not?

Yes, IMO that's the default mode in nature, is to find HIM usually stuck to the hydrogen in sugars and oils.
IMO it also sticks to gaseous hydrogen, but that's not necessarily proven yet.

When I understood right, oxygen can only accelerate it, but not hold onto it like hydrogen atoms, right? It more like frees it and is pulled towards it, but its not really attached, not?

Well....there was that experiment done by Reich where he burned copper in air and found it started producing bions but it wouldn't produce any before being burned.
IMO that proved conclusively that the source of the bions (aka HIM) could only have been the oxygen in the air.
So for me, it seems that oxygen does several things:
> "charges" HIM particles in solutions when applied as peroxide or ozone, etc
> attracts "charged" HIM particles like a magnet attracts iron filings.
> holds HIM particles within a metal oxide in a kind of protective umbrella
> is the actual original source of HIM in a metal oxide before the reaction takes place (at least in the case of Reichs copper oxide)
L> so based on the above point, you can also say that gaseous oxygen has the capacity to hold on to HIM all on its own.

Do you think without hydrogen in the air, oxygen would still suck the HIM away? Or would accelerate ot even further?

Yes, IMO even with no hydrogen around and just oxygen, the HIM will just stick to the oxygen as per usual.

you write they like tight spaces even more than air. ever considered just using active charcoal to hold them in the bottle?

I have, but the problem then becomes getting them out of the charcoal again.
AFAIK charcoal can't be dissolved in any solvents.

 

[Widur]

Yes, they do make chlorine, so you need to add them to the water separately.

meaning fill with water, then add lye, then add vinegar. But it goes to the same one batch of water? because even so they make chlorine. I am going to make a shopping list for tomorrow.

IMO DOR is neutron radiation

Oh sorry, i somewhere read falsely alpha radiation is neutrons, not neutrons and photons. I meant neutron radiation.

super high energy neutrons.

Does this exist?? ah, you mean high kinetic energy? what energy?

And you're right sulfur can't really be that bad since it's essential to life.

Yeah, I think its only bad for our work. Its a system somehow of hydrogen, oxygen, sulphur and carbon. Also, Calcium, Kalium and magnesium play an important role. in animals also natrium. maybe animals are better transmutators than plants? we should maybe have a look at which elements animals need and which plants. also what they only profit from, like silicium! One particle less than phosphorus, two to sulphur. Im still at the magic is somewhere in the numbers, maybe in the sacred geometry of these atoms.

So IMO either, my whole HIM framework is totally wrong...OR...sulfur is simply a catalyst which initiates HIM reactions, and that it's the

you now think its not sulohur causing fatal reaction with him? slowing down then?

TBH, I'm feeling pretty burnt out from this theoretical stuff. I actually want to take a break from it and hand the torch down to others such as yourself for a spell.

i am at it. still at your notes and still lots of other stuff to read. also, tomorrow is shopping and brewing day.

So for me, it seems that oxygen does several things:

but it also keeps HIM from becoming extremely high spun, right?

AFAIK charcoal can't be dissolved in any solvents.

Dissolved? I thought more along the lines of using all that holes for catching him, also its a great place for bacteria. But yes you'd have to get it back out. But its possible to clean used active charcoal. Dont know how anymore, was it cooked?

 

[ghetto alchemist]

meaning fill with water, then add lye, then add vinegar. But it goes to the same one batch of water? because even so they make chlorine.

That's right, both go into same batch of water, and yes they do make chlorine in the water, which is why it sterilises the container.

Does this exist?? ah, you mean high kinetic energy? what energy?

Check out THIS PODCAST with Pamela Boss, IMO one of the most experienced scientists in the world RE cold fusion reactions, (and IMO cold fusion reactions are actually HIM reactions).
She was talking about the emitted neutrons in terms of MeV values, and saw neutrons on SRI tracks as high as 14.1MeV, which is fuckin huge.
To put that into perspective, she said that you can fission U-238 with neutrons greater than 2MeV.
In other words she was saying the high energy of cold fusion emitted neutrons means you can build nuclear reactors and fuel them with uranium straight out of the ground, no isotope separation needed.

IMO the high energy neutron comes from the fact that the HIM particle (which forms the neutron) has a massive "charge" on it, which then gets imparted into the newly created neutron.

ou now think its not sulohur causing fatal reaction with him? slowing down then?

Really putting myself out on a limb here....
Maybe elemental sulfur does induce the negative reaction from HIM....
But...a sulfate ion (which is a powered down version of elemental sulfur) if applied in the right time and conditions will induce the positive HIM reaction.
How does that sound?

but it also keeps HIM from becoming extremely high spun, right?

Yes, that's right....but that's talking about the oxygen pinning the HIM inside a metal oxide.

 

[Widur]

i made a precise shopping list and can even substitute the tablets closely!
Also important: you didnt mention when to put in the salt. I guess it goes in the bloody mary?
Also, can I take normal vinegar or does it have to be white vinegar? stupid question probably! ill take the normal one.

newly created neutron.

newly created? I think its broken from the core? As i understand, some stuff gets in symbiosys with the gaia particle, like hydrogen or oxygen, so the hose is connected to the core or maybe sets between some electron shells. and some have not the right distrubition of positive and negative over the areas of the atom, so HIM cant make proper fit with the atom and its fatally despun.
But if its attached how can others cause fatal despin? May it be the hose reaches in more than 1 direction in 3d space?

Maybe elemental sulfur does induce the negative reaction from HIM....
But...a sulfate ion (which is a powered down version of elemental sulfur) if applied in the right time and conditions will induce the positive HIM reaction.
How does that sound?

Sounds good. If you look at oxygen, carbon, co2, ethers, carbohydrates and such, its totally clear the combination totally changes the effect! There seem to be some elements which are special with HIM and it seems to be all about the 2,4,6 and 8!
shell configurations with core :
Hydrogen:1p 1e
carbon: 6p6n 2e 4e
oxygen: 8p8n 2e 6e
fluor: 9p9e 2e 7e
sodium 11p11n 2e 8e 1e
silicium: 14p14n 2e 8e 4e
sulphur: 16p16n 2e 8e 6e

all with 4 electrons in the outer shell seem to keep HIM stable/locked, shell it. and all with 1 seem really attached. i imagine that the distrubition of positive and negative determines if the hose of the gaia particle can establish a stable connection, gets accelerated, slowed down or whatever. I think it might be a good idea to draw the atoms with the loadings distrubition. Maybe than we can see better.

 

[Widur]

Wait a Moment. You use only a dolop of yoghurt? Your recipe said 500g! No wonder mine turnen out different.
Also, is it really 20 liter? Looks more.
But even so, are you sure red boat fish sauce contains pnsb? It should be to salty and should contain LAB.

 

[Widur]

I needed the half day to subsitute your products. Its impossible with the Vitamin B complex. Theres no such products in europe. B3 is extremely high. Everything is different. Its more like a push up pill, it boosts methylization in brain.
I got everything else ecept rice syrup. Have to check next asia market rght now.
I got pills which closely resembles the calcium, magnesium and vitamin D. Also folic acid. But no vitqamin K and no fitting B complex. I got B12 Single and i got a B complex which which I think to come near to the australian pills. Just lower in B3.
But the complex was 20 Euro didnt want B3 for another 25!

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Also important: you didnt mention when to put in the salt. I guess it goes in the bloody mary?

Check the pics closer, the salt is definately in there.
It's in the pic with the tablets inside the jug.

Also, can I take normal vinegar or does it have to be white vinegar? stupid question probably! ill take the normal one.

Just use whatever "normal" vinegar you can get.

newly created? I think its broken from the core? As i understand, some stuff gets in symbiosys with the gaia particle, like hydrogen or oxygen, so the hose is connected to the core or maybe sets between some electron shells. and some have not the right distrubition of positive and negative over the areas of the atom, so HIM cant make proper fit with the atom and its fatally despun.
But if its attached how can others cause fatal despin? May it be the hose reaches in more than 1 direction in 3d space?

My poor brain can't understand what you're suggesting.
You need to find a simpler way to describe it....can you use metaphors to help explain?
Eg: Thompsons early model of an atom used a plum pudding metaphor.

Otherwise, when I say "newly created" I'm assuming that these magical particles are able to glue a proton with and electron to create a neutron (just as standard science says that neutrinos do, which probably means that the HIM particle is indeed some kind of neutrino).

Wait a Moment. You use only a dolop of yoghurt? Your recipe said 500g! No wonder mine turnen out different.
Also, is it really 20 liter? Looks more.

Use the whole 500g of yoghurt, in my case it took 3 of those jugs, but only 1 pic needed to be shown.

But even so, are you sure red boat fish sauce contains pnsb? It should be to salty and should contain LAB.

I'm pretty confidant that red boat fish sauce contains PNSB, but without any way to properly measure it, then...No, I can't be "sure".
But since we don't have access to a proper microbiology lab, IMO that's good enough.

I needed the half day to subsitute your products. Its impossible with the Vitamin B complex. Theres no such products in europe. B3 is extremely high. Everything is different. Its more like a push up pill, it boosts methylization in brain.

I got everything else ecept rice syrup. Have to check next asia market rght now.

I got pills which closely resembles the calcium, magnesium and vitamin D. Also folic acid. But no vitqamin K and no fitting B complex. I got B12 Single and i got a B complex which which I think to come near to the australian pills. Just lower in B3.

Nice work with finding equivalent pills, especially the B vitamin one/s.
You don't actually need rice syrup, it's only there for a sugar source.
You can just as easily use golden syrup or maple syrup or even ordinary sugar (as with other ingredients, try to get preservative free though).

 

[Widur]

Wholr 500g? And for my 10 liters? I will use maize syrup.
A better way to explain...hmm..Well if the hose is attached to the nucleus next to it there ar the electron shells Circles around a circle. I thought maybe the hose is not to the core but ends as a ring between the positive core and the negative shells. In these stellt there are different amounts of neutrons. Some elements so have an equal distribution of negative potential, or at least symmetric, some are asymmetric. Maybe the movement of this asymmetry effects the hose.
In hydrogen and sodium the asmetry moves rund and rund at steady pace.
In carbon and oxygen too but there are two asymmetries and they⁰ are behind an area of equilibrium. In aulphur the equilibrium is bigger. Fluor I think has a quite weird moving asymmetry.
You have to look at how the electrons distribution in the shells.
But i learned this modell is out of time now! There are no rings but orbitals! But still there is symmetr, and asymmetry. I havnt found time to look on this orbital modell and how the interesting elements would look.

pretty confidant that red boat fish sauce contains PNSB, but without any way to properly measure it, then

You can buy pnsb on etsy. Dont cost more than red boat, or not much. So, lets start brewing!

 

[Widur]

how many fat has your greek yoghurt? my brew never looked like yours, i seem to have a layer of fat on top and the yeast swims ontop. but i could see the fluorescence of riboflavin in pure daylight, although in my pills theres less. does your pill mix not glow? the whole bottle was slightly fluorescent after putting the pills in. well i hope it goes well. i have desinfected properly. should be fine.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Wholr 500g? And for my 10 liters?

For 10 litres, you'd need 250g

I will use maize syrup

That'll do nicely.

A better way to explain...hmm..Well if the hose is attached to the nucleus next to it there ar the electron shells Circles around a circle. I thought maybe the hose is not to the core but ends as a ring between the positive core and the negative shells. In these stellt there are different amounts of neutrons. Some elements so have an equal distribution of negative potential, or at least symmetric, some are asymmetric. Maybe the movement of this asymmetry effects the hose.
In hydrogen and sodium the asmetry moves rund and rund at steady pace.
In carbon and oxygen too but there are two asymmetries and they⁰ are behind an area of equilibrium. In aulphur the equilibrium is bigger. Fluor I think has a quite weird moving asymmetry.
You have to look at how the electrons distribution in the shells.
But i learned this modell is out of time now! There are no rings but orbitals! But still there is symmetr, and asymmetry. I havnt found time to look on this orbital modell and how the interesting elements would look.

Hudson had a theory which said something very close to what you're saying.
He said there are "proton shells" which mimic the electron shells in standard science.
Eg: the element sodium readily transmutes because it's nucleus easily cleaves off a single proton (just as it does an electron).

You can buy pnsb on etsy. Dont cost more than red boat, or not much. So, lets start brewing!

Nice. You should post a link.

how many fat has your greek yoghurt? my brew never looked like yours, i seem to have a layer of fat on top and the yeast swims ontop. but i could see the fluorescence of riboflavin in pure daylight, although in my pills theres less. does your pill mix not glow? the whole bottle was slightly fluorescent after putting the pills in. well i hope it goes well. i have desinfected properly. should be fine.

My yoghurt was actually 2 months past expiry, but I didn't know it until after I finished the brew.
I've used old yoghurt before, and the brew still should turn out okay, but fresh yoghurt is more milky without the micro lumps.

It's hard to see fluoro in my brew because the container is blue, but yes I've seen it before.
Looks like you're all set.

 

[Widur]

Looks like!
Heres the pnsb bacteria link:

https://www.etsy.com/de-en/listing/4363942069/photosynthetic-microbes-plant-growth?ref=elp_anchor_listing

I am trying to ask the seller what he made it from.

 

[Widur]

also you can buy them for aquariums: https://fishtanksdirect.com/brightwell-microbacter-purple-m-500ml/

 

[Widur]

You should have a look at the archemy techniques thread. It may be I found out why SAM4 consortiums are a magical fertilizer. Also yeast and PNSB produce b vitamins in active form. Its no real use adding them.
Here can you buy pure PNSB, but rhodobacter. Id prefer pseudomonas, because they have been showm to transmute.

Rhodobacter capsulatus (Molisch) Imhoff et al. - 17019 | ATCC

www.atcc.org

 

[ghetto alchemist]

It may be I found out why SAM4 consortiums are a magical fertilizer. Also yeast and PNSB produce b vitamins in active form. Its no real use adding them.

Nice.
Good to know that the drink is an even better Vit B source than I already thought.
Perhaps you could try leaving it out altogether in future brews.

Here can you buy pure PNSB, but rhodobacter. Id prefer pseudomonas, because they have been showm to transmute.

Also nice.
Unfortunately I can't buy though because of Australian import restrictions.
So testing those out is gonna have to be all on you.

Also, I'm quite happy for you to show me that I'm wrong about the PNSB microbes, and that they really are magical in and of themselves.
But you'll need some proper proof.

 

[Widur]

Perhaps you could try leaving it out altogether in future brews.

Perhaps you should do so, too, cause your vitamin b pills are a push up pill in themselve. Thats why you cant buy them in europa.
It goes on the metabolism of the brain, giving it more energy. But you should not take them often.
You know for sure the zing is there without the vitamin b?
I totally believe in your brew, but vitamin b works wonders on the brains of heavy drinkers!
I knew this for long, but never said anything cause I totally believe theres a zing which is not from vitamin b.
But now that I know its like a push up pill, I think you should put it to the test.
I hope youre not angry, as I said I believe in it.

I'm quite happy for you to show me that I'm wrong about the PNSB microbes, and that they really are magical in and of themselves.

What do you mean youre wrong, I think thats exactly what you thought, that they are magical themselves.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

I totally believe in your brew, but vitamin b works wonders on the brains of heavy drinkers!
I knew this for long, but never said anything cause I totally believe theres a zing which is not from vitamin b.
But now that I know its like a push up pill, I think you should put it to the test.
I hope youre not angry, as I said I believe in it.

Nobody has ever said, nor hinted, that I'm a heavy drinker.
I do enjoy a couple of drinks every week...but it is literally that...a couple of drinks as in 2-3 drinks in an entire week.
My father in law gave me a 1 liter bottle of whiskey for christmas, and drinking from that bottle only, I just finished it several days ago....6 weeks to get through a single bottle of whiskey.
Nope, not angry, but I am calling BS....sorry that's not it......keep trying friend.

Perhaps you should do so, too, cause your vitamin b pills are a push up pill in themselve.

What do you mean youre wrong, I think thats exactly what you thought, that they are magical themselves.

I suppose I do, I just mean IMO the PNSB simply release the magic from inside rock, but don't create it from nothing.

Yesterday I bottled the most recent batch of brew, drank 1 liter the first day, and as expected, I had trouble getting to sleep from the caffeine-like ping.
You should also be about the right time to open up your brew too, so you can finally find out what all the fuss is about.

 

[Widur]

Nobody has ever said, nor hinted, that I'm a heavy drinker.
I do enjoy a couple of drinks every week...but it is literally that...a couple of drinks as in 2-3 drinks in an entire week.

Okay maybe i got that wrong.
But you said that you are now able to not drink for any number of days which before you were definetely not, you said!
You said your drinking was much much worse before the elixir!
It really did sound like you were drinking hard liquor every day, although maybe not much.

But sure, what do I know? Was just interpreting you sayings.

In europe they give vitamin b pills to alcoholics in rehab, because this is when the alk is really destroing the brain, in rehab!
They work wonders on the brains of alcohol addicts.
I came up with the theory that its just a strong dose of b vitamins giving YOU the zing, a long time ago.
But I was sure thats not it, so never said a thing!
But a while ago I found out that Fusion B is not a vitamin b supplement, its a push up pill!
Just give the contents to an AI and see what it says how it will work!
Something like that is not even available in europe!
And yeast and PNSB can BOTH produce b vitamins!
So i thought maybe THAT on YOUR brain made the effect.
Youre right, it doesnt explain the zing you describe!
Maybe it is bullshit.
But the idea is not nonsense.
If you say its not it, its not it.
But why then dont you leave the bvitamins away?
Or at least take a supplement, not a push up pill.
Well, its up to you.
I believe in the real zing, or why would I be brewing??

You should also be about the right time to open up your brew too, so you can finally find out what all the fuss is about.

I made mine on 3.2. I think, so its just one week, not two.
Yours is standing outdoors?? Also at night?

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Yours is standing outdoors?? Also at night?

Yep, once it goes outside, I just leave it there 24-7.
It's 24kgs, so too heavy to lug around everyday anyway.

I made mine on 3.2. I think, so its just one week, not two.

if it's not cold then 10 days should be enough, if it's a bit chilly, then 15+ days.

 

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[Widur]

I tried today on day 15.
I took the time cause it wasnt too warm and not too bright, well I provided a lamp some time, but a household led doesnt have the red wavelengths PNSBs need.
Its like puke again, maybe even worse.

Couldnt drink it, that would be dangerous.

No idea what went wrong, I desinfected with cold, then vinegar, then bleach(NaOCl).

Do you also have such a strong sludge at the bottom from the beginning?
I will start anew in the next days after figuring what went wrong.
Important: Do you use 1 or 1/2 teaspoon of seasalt on the 20l?
2 or 3 of every tablets?
Theres different info in the recipes. Also is it really 20l or is it more?
I ask cause redox potential is crucial for pnsb.
Maybe its the climate. Dont know.
But my pnsb starter dont work also.
I think in the red boat sauce theres just no PNSB alive, to much salt!

Offtopic:
But i made that bubblers over magnets! One in a plastikbucket surrounded by sand.
I still had it, its for fertilizer, stinging nettle brew, compost tea and such.
I just put a big magnet to the bottom, bigger than the other one in the pic.

The second is a warmkeeper bottle which i think maybe usable as MEOW kettle. Ill drill a hole for the hose
Next things Ill build is a rotating magnet and a magnetic pulser, i am waitung for some parts
I then will combine the stuff together somehow. A magnet trap is next on the list.


Say, isnt it possible to use that warmkeeper bottles as joe cells? Or do they have totally wrong sizes and thicknesses?
Is this important?
You wrote about PVC joe cells, did i get that right?
Hope wasnt too offtopic.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Couldnt drink it, that would be dangerous.

No idea what went wrong,

That's exactly what it looks like, you did everything right.
The sediment is normal, don't worry about it, try to leave it behind in the bottle but it's totally okay to drink it too in case you have shaky hands.
Now quickly guzzle down a full glass.
That magic gas that vladimirv described is in there, but it seeps out fast, so the time to act is now.

There's some awesome experiences awaiting you on the other side of that glass my friend.
Especially since you're a stoner.
You'll be talking to your soul in no time at all.
Just got to push through your fears....bottoms up!!!

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Say, isnt it possible to use that warmkeeper bottles as joe cells? Or do they have totally wrong sizes and thicknesses?
Is this important?
You wrote about PVC joe cells, did i get that right?
Hope wasnt too offtopic.

Early joe cells used pvc for the case, but the plastic warps from gas pressure, so it's not recommended.
The warm keeper (aka thermos) won't be good choice for a joe cell because the separate layers need to be electrically insulated from each other.
But IMO it'll be good for an orgone accumulator or MEOW because it's a magnetic shield.

BTW, your ghetto life-force-charging gadgets looking cool

 

[Widur]

That's exactly what it looks like, you did everything right.
The sediment is normal, don't worry about it, try to leave it behind in the bottle but it's totally okay to drink it too in case you have shaky hands.
Now quickly guzzle down a full glass.

You dont understand I think.
I totally believe it looks right,
but doesnt taste.
Its really like puke, I drank one small sip and had to concentrate hard on something else to not choke!
I dont know if it would even possible to gulp down a glass violently without throwing up!!
That taste can be fuze alcohols(the stuff making you blind), butric acid or it could very well be chlostrides!!

If it was just the taste I would go for it, but its dangerous!

I dont believe yours tastes like that!
First I dont believe you would drink it.
Second and much more I cant believe your sister would ever drink it and like it!
There was no burnt steak aroma.
It smelled acidic and yeast like, with a hint of something unpleasant.
For the taste I can only say the taste of puke surpressed everything else.
Nobody would think that to be healthy.
Impossible.

I think its cause of the climate.
I had it inside at like 20C all time, but maybe it was colder sometime.
Also I should have isolated the bottle from the cold floor! Concrete!

I think I have to provide warmer temps with day night change like you.
Could you PN me you geneal location in AUS so I could look up your climate?
I also still have to finish Pinto's book.
Some guys even use hotboxes.
It might also be due to contamination.
I desinfected the bottle with vinegar first, bleach second (I dont have enough space to generate chloric gas like you
But maybe hose and plug were not desinfected properly. I thought cold was stronger desinfeccant as it really is. I have to desinfect them more sensible next time.

need to be electrically insulated from each other.

Arent they? So jetzt cant leach out? I thought they were.
You think they are fit for a MEOW kettle, not?
Oh, ive seen, you do. Great that you think they are good. But much more is coming soon.
You will hear from me soon.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Its really like puke, I drank one small sip and had to concentrate hard on something else to not choke!
I dont know if it would even possible to gulp down a glass violently without throwing up!!

I'm officially calling it...you're a pussy. 🐱🐱🐱
That's not meant to be flaming, personal attack nor ad hominum...it's a simple statement of fact! Lol.

I dont believe yours tastes like that!
First I dont believe you would drink it.
Second and much more I cant believe your sister would ever drink it and like it!

Oh, mine's probably worse.
I remember late last year when I popped the barrel, and had the first jug immediately after, my extended family were all present and were gagging and complaining bitterly about the smell.
And then they were all in disbelief when my sister and I both proceeded to calmly drink it.
The bad smell is only when you first break the seal, it fades out after you bottle the top liquid.
But even when it smells bad, it goes down fine, and certainly doesn't do any harm.

There is nothing to worry about...you personally sterilised the brewing vessel, added nutrient, feedstock, and good microbes.
That means there can only possibly be good microbes in there at the end, regardless of smell.
Have some trust in your equipment and your ability to follow a simple set of instructions friend.

Also...the burned steak taste is very feint and highly subjective.
Myself and my ex-GF could both detect it, but my sister has never been able to, so don't get hung up about not experiencing it.

Could you PN me you geneal location in AUS so I could look up your climate?

South East Australia, on the west side of the great dividing range.
Basically that means hot summers and cool winters.

Arent they? So jetzt cant leach out? I thought they were.
You think they are fit for a MEOW kettle, not?

If you've got an idea to make something, then just try it and see.
Don't let anybody elses opinion hold you back...especially not mine.