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Lakhovsky MWO

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I'm not sure if this is the right subforum for it, but has anyone else read up on Georges Lakhovsky and his Multi-Wave Oscillator?

This device was documented as curing some really horrible cancers in the 1930s and 1940s, I have long wanted to either build one or buy one of the ones that follow the original design, but both are prohibitively expensive to do.

I've been in contact with a couple different builders, and a MWO runs from about $10,000 to $15,000. I feel like we are coming to a Time when such devices will be needed.

Does anyone here have any experience with a MWO?
 

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I've never even heard of this Multi-Wave Oscillator which you speak of.
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Invented by Russian expatriate (fled Communism) Georges Lakhovsky in the 1930s, the Multi-Wave Oscillator is a device that passes multiple frequencies of EM waves between circular coils, with the patient sitting in the middle. The devices were massively successful in treating cancer and various other illnesses after relatively few treatments, they were commercially produced and found in hospitals in Italy France and Germany, and other places in Europe. To this day there are still people finding old Lakhovsky machines in storage at Old medical facilities in Europe. Georges Lakhovsky was strangely struck and killed by a car in the 1940s I believe, and all of his machines were pulled from hospitals shortly thereafter. There is an online pdf of his book that documents with photographs the machine shrinking facial tumors the size of a softball, it really is the most amazing anti-cancer treatment with the most proof of effect that I've ever seen.
 

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Thanks brother.
It reminds me of a magnetic pulser, a device which has been getting a bit of positive press recently for it's treatment of various mental conditions including depression.
It's on my bucket list to get a magnetic pulser, but as you say, this kind of thing is very expensive.
So I'm prob gonna have to DIY one.
Alkemehn:
I've been in contact with a couple different builders, and a MWO runs from about $10,000 to $15,000.
How about the builders of these machines? Do you have any links to their websites?
 

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Thanks brother.
It reminds me of a magnetic pulser, a device which has been getting a bit of positive press recently for it's treatment of various mental conditions including depression.
It's on my bucket list to get a magnetic pulser, but as you say, this kind of thing is very expensive.
So I'm prob gonna have to DIY one.

How about the builders of these machines? Do you have any links to their websites?

Brother, send me more information on the magnetic pulser, my girlfriend and her father suffer from depression.

Ask and you shall receive, there are a couple builders of the MWO who use the original specifications, which is important in order to match the frequencies of the original MWO, one is in Spokane, WA, the other is in Croatia (there's a third one in Switzerland I believe, I can't find it at the moment), there was another maker in Racine I believe but someone else bought his machine and found it to be poorly made and didn't output as it should, it began to break down under use:


 

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Thanks for those links, for me it demystified the technology and exactly how the antennas work.
Brother, send me more information on the magnetic pulser,
I just started a thread about them HERE.
 

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Good day,
I have build one before.

The principle is not very difficult, you just need a solid understanding of a basic Tesla coil.. I made one with HV dc and a rotary gap to charge the primary caps, this is the most simple in my experance, using ac it's more difficult as you need the right transformer, you can use a modified washing machine motor to charge the caps as well .. but this makes things more difficult as you need to understand a different form of current for that .. solid state is also a option but in my experance this is pretty easy to destroy, mosfets really dont like this,

Solid state as the advantage that it's just a resonant secondary, and that it's easier to tune,

You could maybe use some tubes but this becomes expencive quite quickly,


If you use a center tapped TC, and ground the center, you can use the 2 outputs for the rings .. this is quite powerful, just make sure you are grounded,

If you wind the 2 halfs in opposite directions you will create something more powerful.. but you will need a split primary,

Make sure you wind your secondary with very little capacitance, as in some good spacing between the wires. This so that the arcs break out easily, if it has to match capacitance, it will not break out and you dont create any muliwaves, also make sure your rings are in a phi ratio of one and other.

If your handy you can build the thing with some old wire, and some empty beer/wine bottles, you just need a good dc power source.. a rotary gap is a simple device that you can make easily out of some scrap .. I build all my TC's from scrap .. and is definitely doable,


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I made one with HV dc
Sorry for showing my ignorance, but how can we generate HV dc?
All the amateur HV setups that I've seen so far either use a microwave transformer or a neon sign power pack, both of which are AC from my somewhat limited understanding.
If you use a center tapped TC, and ground the center, you can use the 2 outputs for the rings
So does "2 outputs for the rings" mean 1 TC (assumed this means "tesla coil") can power both sides of the setup, or are there 2 rings on each side?
Make sure you wind your secondary with very little capacitance, as in some good spacing between the wires.
How do we get good spacing between the wires?
Is that by winding with large gaps between the windings, or by winding coils with thick insulation around the wires?

Do you have some pics of your setup which you can share?

Also, how does what you say compare with THIS SETUP from LeoR?
Do you think he was using high voltage DC or AC?
Are capacitors like his easy to make for the amateur?
 

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Sorry for showing my ignorance, but how can we generate HV dc?
All the amateur HV setups that I've seen so far either use a microwave transformer or a neon sign power pack, both of which are AC from my somewhat limited understanding.
Good day!
No problem ;)
Indeed classically a transformer is either AC or Pulsed DC. i made a high frequency pulsed DC transformer (around 200w if i remember correctly) that charged a large capacitor bank, this rectifies the current, i used some caps from a electric fence power supply. this in turn charged the primary tank circuit. made out of some bottles filled with salt water, and some copper foil on the outside, and a electrode sticking into the water. a classic saltwater leyden jar basically. this is what Mr Tesla used as well and is fine.
you do need to shunt the capbank from the tank circuit though, else when the gap closes you will discharge the bank through the gap. a 2H shunt should work fine, this also acts as a voltage doubler, so this is always nice.
if you go this way you will need a pulse transfomer that hes a higher freq then the TC itself, else you will drain the caps faster then they can get filled,. you could use a beafy voltage multiplyer as well, but this suffers from the same problem, now a days i use a special kind of generator/dynamo to generate magnetic current, (a advancement of Mr Tesla's AC system)
So does "2 outputs for the rings" mean 1 TC (assumed this means "tesla coil") can power both sides of the setup, or are there 2 rings on each side?
yeh you can use the TC to power bough sides of the rings, as you basically have 2 TC's this way..
How do we get good spacing between the wires?
Is that by winding with large gaps between the windings, or by winding coils with thick insulation around the wires?
bough is a good option, thinker wire give more capacitance so thin wire is prob the better way to go.. but i used 2.5mm installation wire at some point and this worked. this had 2.5mm insulation per wire so this adds up to 5mm cap between the wires. i printed a frame once as well on my 3d printer, you can use a pvc tube with some rubber strip in between the turns, there are quite a few options, you can even use coaxial cable if you want, using the outside shielding.
Also, how does what you say compare with THIS SETUP from LeoR?
Do you think he was using high voltage DC or AC?
Are capacitors like his easy to make for the amateur?
this is def a AC setup, caps are easy devices and can be made in many ways.. i used bottles as there easy and cheap to make, and can take allot of power and allot of voltage, i have made them from pvc tubing and aluminum foil as wel, but these fail quite easily under the stress of a tank circuit,
Do you have some pics of your setup which you can share?
I reuse my materials allot, and i dont have the device anymore, i can take a look for some photos but this was 8-10 years ago, so im not sure if i still have them somewhere.
let me be clear, if you never worked with HV or tuned circuits this is basically impossible to make, once you know how this works it becomes relatively easy but you should always be careful as 400kv is very painful to get hit with.
if i remember correctly i used 100 turns per side with 8kv input with one turn of primary on each side meaning this gives (8000/2)*100 = 400kv at the rings this is not a joke and ppl should really be careful, this will kill you if you dont know what your doing.

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Sorry for showing my ignorance, but how can we generate HV dc?
All the amateur HV setups that I've seen so far either use a microwave transformer or a neon sign power pack, both of which are AC from my somewhat limited understanding.

So does "2 outputs for the rings" mean 1 TC (assumed this means "tesla coil") can power both sides of the setup, or are there 2 rings on each side?

How do we get good spacing between the wires?
Is that by winding with large gaps between the windings, or by winding coils with thick insulation around the wires?

Do you have some pics of your setup which you can share?

Also, how does what you say compare with THIS SETUP from LeoR?
Do you think he was using high voltage DC or AC?
Are capacitors like his easy to make for the amateur?

I think a solid state TC is match easier to construct for the noobie so to speak.. hes more control and easier to tune,.. this is what the commercial MWO's use as well, and is prob best for most ppl to make.. although the originals where not like this..
as a ref you can use this schematic, this works quite well for the ease of construction.
a primary with 24v should already work quite well instead of 340dc from the wall as shown in the drawing.
it can be made with
2 toroid cores (1 gate drive transformer and one to pickup the self resonant freq of the TC),
a few diods,
2 SR latches (flip-flops) to generate a square wave from the pickup coil
2 high power gatedrivers (to drive the gate drive transformer).
4 zenners (to limmit the gate voltage)
2 IGBT's (Itergrate Gate Bipolar Transistor)(basicly a voltage controled transistor)
2 2w resistors
1 tank cap and some wire.. (tank cap will need to be at least 8x the voltage rating of the primary input,)
and a low freq interrupt, a arduino / ne555 based solution or something similar should work fine.

you do need quite some secondary turns to make this work, and this way it becomes a bit more difficult to keep the secondary coil capacitance low.
this type of circuit is also used in the commercial NWO's
a advancement on this circuit would be to use a PLL (Phase locked loop) but this complicates things quite a bit, although it does give more stability. mostly on startup..
i hope this helps you.

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Thanks for these posts Wigwamman, you've made a couple of things finally click for me.

That circuit diagram looks a little bit confusing in a couple of areas though.
It looks like you have to connect the transistors to a 340V DC power supply, am I reading that correctly?
Do you know of any links where someone has built this circuit and put up pictures or video to show it?

Also curious to ask if that 22nF capacitor could be put below the 6T coil instead of above it, that wouldn't make any difference right?
And I'm assuming you could use a salt water capacitor to make the same 22nF capacitor too right?
 

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Thanks for these posts Wigwamman, you've made a couple of things finally click for me.
You are welkom
That circuit diagram looks a little bit confusing in a couple of areas though.
It looks like you have to connect the transistors to a 340V DC power supply, am I reading that correctly?
Do you know of any links where someone has built this circuit and put up pictures or video to show it?
Yes in Europe mains are 230v, when you rectify mains voltage to DC it will be about 340v, but as i was saying, you can do this with 24v, this is match safer, then working from direct mains. i would suggest doing that. so then you can just get a 24v powersupply from ebay or el china,
Also curious to ask if that 22nF capacitor could be put below the 6T coil instead of above it, that wouldn't make any difference right?
And I'm assuming you could use a salt water capacitor to make the same 22nF capacitor too right?
yes you could that that, there is not match differance, do understand that the 22nf is just a value, and you would need to find out what value your TC needs. F = 1/2pi*sqrt(LC), this means you need to know the secondary frequency of the TC, the inductance of the primary and the value of the primary tank cap, when you know these values you can tune the system, this so that you primary is in resonance with your secondary, the tank cap should be a normal cap, and you can just buy them, or make them your self.. i would not use a saltwater cap, as these require allot of tension (voltage) to work properly, 24v or 340v is not enough.. for 24v its relatively easy to make something you want as you can easily get 240v rated caps. and prob even in the value in and around what you want. so no need to make a MMC (a bunch of capacitors stringed together).
once you have a capacitor that is around what you need you can play with primary turn ratio to tune the system perfectly.

a other route you can go, and this is prob easier, but its allot less powerful is to use a very large primary cap, and not make it resonate at all..
so in this way you dont have a resonant primary, only a resonant secondary,. this works but it will not be as effective as with a resonant primary.. but it does simplify the building process.

Do you know of any links where someone has built this circuit and put up pictures or video to show it?
there is some sites that post stuff on this.. but everyone uses there own circuits, so its not this circuit.
i used a PLL circuit to drive my resonant HHO cell, but this works also with a FPGA to do some timing specific things.. so this will only really confuse you. the idea is capture the secondary freq, by some means, there are many options. generate a square wave with that freq in that phase, drive a few IGBT's with that square wave, to drive a primary coil. resonant or non resonant. this rings the secondary, and the cycle is repeated.
A friend of mine that owns a NWO, asked me if i could build them, as he sees money in it.. i might make a solid state version,
if i do i will document it for you. and sent you a pm.
im a bit busy as the moment building / designing a laser projection system. so im not sure when i will start on the SSTC/SSNWO,

As a safety warning, dont use line voltage, unless you know what you are doing.. I shocked my self allot of time while learning this stuff on my own, and these voltages can kill when you are not careful, and stuff tents to explode if you dont use it correctly. so be careful for ppl that want to try and build this sort of stuff

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Some more random stuff on this device:

e-book and website of some Italian guy who has on original device (non-free):

Various publications and free e-book (but with small letters)