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This is one of the most beautiful crystallizations shared in the forum.
Just beautiful, and alive!
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Interesting science experiment showing certain stages of the stone
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This is one of the most beautiful crystallizations shared in the forum.
Just beautiful, and alive!
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Hello Coots.
It depends. How did you do it?
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Wonderful salts
I would keep cooking it, perhaps shake the crystals back down once in a while.
Until it stops separating/unifies?
I've had these crystals so many times but never incubated them.
Thanks for sharing very curious.
I would keep cooking it, perhaps shake the crystals back down once in a while.
Until it stops separating/unifies?
I've had these crystals so many times but never incubated them.
Thanks for sharing very curious.
Just repeat distillation and coagulation.
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Are these the same material? I’m wondering if they may be Sal Ammoniac.
Same material yes, very volatile substance, so easy to evaporate and never be seen again.
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Amazing. And is there still body to draw it in? Is there still earth for it to penetrate?
Yes but sadly i added too much “water” and drowned it, had to get rid of the excess water and lost sooo much salts. Hopefully still enough left to get the process going. Will post update photos in a month or so.
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Based only on what I’ve read, I would’ve expected the latest addition of our water to cause a fast dissolution, followed by additional congelation and a more purifying sublimation. This hasn't been the case? There was no dissolution?
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@Coots the stalactites look very cool. However it's very difficult to assess whether something is "good" or not based on the physical appearance of the salts alone.
Have you used sound hermetic principals to obtain these salts? Does the progress of the work match that of the text?
These are the sorts of questions that sound be pondered, as trying to ascertain the validity of your procedure based on visual appearance alone can be very misleading I believe.
Especially because, well, SM salts change their structure and form depending on how well developed and matured they are. This is the premise of the Hand of the Philosophers. I highly doubt, very much, that the sages were actually using the 5 salts labelled on the hand. They are representations of the growth of the Central Salt during its vivification and maturation processes.
So you can see why a visual appearance might be an issue since, as far as I am aware, there isn't any strict crystal form.
The salts I recently made were dendritic in nature. I took this as a good sign, only because it showed that the "Tree" algorithm, which nature uses extensively through its lifeforms is clearly present. However, that really isn't proof of anything and I will have to ultimately just test the crystals ability to ingress into metals if I want any actual certainty as to whether or not I have SM.
It is my personal opinion that salt analysis is the very worst way to give any creed to our own work. Even more so because crystals are deceptively beautiful and the human being is partial to always think that what they are doing is good and meaningful and worthwhile, even if it's actually superfluous. Ego. Am I right?
I'm not putting down your work here. I have no idea what it is you're doing and maybe it's great, just a note to be careful in the way you assess your work.
Have you used sound hermetic principals to obtain these salts? Does the progress of the work match that of the text?
These are the sorts of questions that sound be pondered, as trying to ascertain the validity of your procedure based on visual appearance alone can be very misleading I believe.
Especially because, well, SM salts change their structure and form depending on how well developed and matured they are. This is the premise of the Hand of the Philosophers. I highly doubt, very much, that the sages were actually using the 5 salts labelled on the hand. They are representations of the growth of the Central Salt during its vivification and maturation processes.
So you can see why a visual appearance might be an issue since, as far as I am aware, there isn't any strict crystal form.
The salts I recently made were dendritic in nature. I took this as a good sign, only because it showed that the "Tree" algorithm, which nature uses extensively through its lifeforms is clearly present. However, that really isn't proof of anything and I will have to ultimately just test the crystals ability to ingress into metals if I want any actual certainty as to whether or not I have SM.
It is my personal opinion that salt analysis is the very worst way to give any creed to our own work. Even more so because crystals are deceptively beautiful and the human being is partial to always think that what they are doing is good and meaningful and worthwhile, even if it's actually superfluous. Ego. Am I right?
I'm not putting down your work here. I have no idea what it is you're doing and maybe it's great, just a note to be careful in the way you assess your work.
I am just sharing pictures and making conversation, not necessarily looking for validity or assessment, just chatting and sharing.
Appreciate your reply and comments though.
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Would love to see some pics of these salts you are referring to @elixirmixer
This is something that is missing though isn’t it, at least as far as i can tell if only using books from people who seems like they did actually make the stone.
None really explain what happens from the mixing back the substances to the black stage. The black stage forward has a few who explain what happens but that first 40-50 days, not so much.
The part on how to prepare the substances are extremely vague and limited too. Then the actual starting substance is never ever mentioned, except by later books whom i all doubt achieved the stone anyway.
Which tests do you mean? Many are mentioned depending on which process people are attempting, i only know of one test to check if your “water” is correct from someone i believe had the stone. If the water is correct, the salts are too as they come from one source but who knows…