In the Closet of the Vatican: Power, Homosexuality, Hypocrisy

[Awani]

Article: The Corruption of the Vatican’s Gay Elite Has Been Exposed

Excerpt from article:

...the new and devastating book by one Frédéric Martel on the gayness of the hierarchy at the top of the Catholic Church, In the Closet of the Vatican: Power, Homosexuality, Hypocrisy.

It’s a bewildering and vast piece of reporting — Martel interviewed no fewer than 41 cardinals, 52 bishops and monsignori, 45 apostolic nuncios, secretaries of nunciatures or foreign ambassadors, 11 Swiss Guards and over 200 Catholic priests and seminarians. He conducted more than 1,500 interviews over four years, is quite clear about his sources, and helps the reader weigh their credibility. He keeps the identity of many of the most egregiously hypocritical cardinals confidential, but is unsparing about the dead.

And it’s highly predictable that John Paul II’s pontificate, which launched a new war on homosexuals, turns out to be the gayest of them all — and the one most resistant to any inquiry into stories of sex abuse.

Another proof of my theory that the bigger the homophobe the more gay that person is (albeit in the closet or in denial).

 

[tAlc]

i will admit that im more on the homophobe side. i dealt with gay people touching me for self-gratification reasons, gay bosses telling me to bend over and clean underneath the oven only to say "ohhh nice position eh?" and shit like that. i dealt with mf gay guys in elementary school rubbing me and humping me, i ended up beatin the shit out these mf and remindin them a thing called boundries.

love who u love but dont fkin touch me inappriprpaitely ill fucking fight u.

why i say this is because, in ones experience, one might be homophobe because of their experience with gay people, not cause they're gay themselves... i feel this is a bs gimic gay ppl came up with, so if anyone questions their brotherhood they say shit like "oh ur bothered by gay ppl u must be resisting the force within.." lol

i cant emphasize enough how heavily i grew up around ppl tryna molest me, and they were men... am i bad or wrong fot expecting the same action i recieved from virtually every gay guy before.... i fight solamians all the time cause they keep tryna rob me, am i wrong for getting prepped for the next somalian on the subway lookin at me all serious? i mean, its to be expected...

 

[Awani]

I meant more people who preach homophobia, those people are probably gay.

Also sounds like your experience is the same as what some women have regarding men, and you know (as I do) that all men don't do those things to women... same with gay people. Same with people from Somalia.

The people who have hurt you the most - I'm sure - are white men in a suit and tie (even if you never met them).

am i bad or wrong fot expecting the same action i recieved from virtually every gay guy before... am i wrong for getting prepped for the next somalian on the subway lookin at me all serious? i mean, its to be expected...

That's why it keeps happening to you.

 

[Florius Frammel]

There are also news reporting that the vatican saved millions of jews during the holocaust in WWII:

https://zenit.org/articles/intervie...n-who-hated-pacelli-but-now-calls-him-a-hero/

Of course this isn't popular in times of catholic bashing and among people who hate gays and jews.

 

[Awani]

When it concerns certain things it doesn't matter what good is done. Any institution that support or hide or aid pedophiles and rapists can invent the cure for cancer for all I care... burn they shall regardless. Also I wonder if they saved as many jews as they burned women and heretics over the years. Also this:

“How hard it is for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God” (Luke 18:18–25)

Bankers best guess regarding the Vatican's wealth is about $10 billion to $15 billion.

 

[elixirmixer]

Bankers best guess regarding the Vatican's wealth is about $10 billion to $15 billion.

I think it's actually way more than that. A few billion isn't really very much money anymore. Each world government imprinting trillions of dollars each year now to try and keep up the collusion that the system is working, when we can all see how fragile and shitty it really is.

 

[Awani]

Somewhat related: Episode 267 - in the closet of the vatican

In this episode my guest is Frédéric Martel and we will be discussing his book In the Closet of the Vatican: Power, Homosexuality, Hypocrisy. This book is based upon the testimonies from 41 cardinals, 52 bishops and 45 apostolic nuncios. The author argues that an overwhelming majority of priests and bishops serving in the Vatican are gay, and either secretly have sex with men or repress their desires. The book is not primarily about child sexual abuse by priests but instead investigates the everyday dishonesty of Catholic priests who lie about their sexual orientation.