. How to Produce Philosopher's Mercury from Source Water

[ghetto alchemist]

OK. I promised it. I know a couple of you are looking forward to it...so here it is.
This is basically following on from my Dry path analysis post.

In the post about the dry path, I also summarized the wet path.
However, I never said how to create the required secret solvent.
This is really only an academic exercise, armchair alchemy if you will.
If you know where to find HIM and you know the dry path, then you'd never bother with the wet one.

So as I sit here in my metaphorical armchair right next to the fireplace, holding my tobacco pipe in one hand and glass of warm cognac in the other, adopting my poshest English accent, I hereby begin to pontificate....

Most of the legwork for this was covered when I wrote a post a couple of months ago to answer AntiInventor's request for a way to transmute metals. Link HERE, but I'll paste the post below

Nobody ever put this more succintly than George Ripley:

Take the cerus, or cream, of the finest and purest Cornish tin molten, reduce it into fine white calx, put it into a fit glass still, and there upon pour a convenient quantity of our, when it is our Lunary perfect; then distil that mercury from the calx again; imbibe it again therewith, and again distil; reiterate this work until the calx is become subtle and oily, yea, so subtle indeed that it will flow upon a plate of copper, fiery hot as wax, and not evaporate, which then will convert copper into fine silver

Ripley's process is really quite simple.
In fact, it's pretty much the same as the salt process described HERE, which has already been performed and perfected by several alchemists on this forum.
Only 2 differences...you'll need to use a metal oxide salt instead of table salt and you'll also need to use what ripley calls “the water of life” (also mercury) instead of distilled spring water.
IMO Ripleys “water of life” is simply spring water processed in a way to massively increase concentration of HIM so it can readily dissolve the metal salt.

In the above passage Ripley says to use tin oxide.
But … you could just as easily use copper oxide or iron oxide.
The typical metal salt used by many of the old timers was silver oxide.
Silver oxide powder starts off jet black and turns snow white after it's been converted, which makes it very easy to see when you're done.
You may have realised already that there's no such thing as gold oxide.
Therefore, if you want the gold stone, you must first make a stone for a lesser metal, and then convert it by cohobating with gold tinged “water of life”.
This technique is also described in Ripley's above quote when he says that you can make the silver transmutation stone by cohobating tin oxide with silver tinged “water of life”.

All the artist needs to do is to concentrate the HIM part of vivified water into another solvent with far more power.
Easy in concept but not so easy in practice.

IMO the best account for understanding this stuff was given by the enigmatic 'Jim', friend of the late Barry Carter.
You can read all about Jim HERE and HERE.

Jim discovered that after magnetically stimulating his 'hot rocks material', it emitted a mysterious vapor which condensed into a grease inside a magnetic shield.
After this grease was removed from the magnetic shield it instantly vaporized giving off a heat shimmering effect.
It had other strange properties such as smelling like spring hills, giving an eerie sensation when passing through his hand, condensing in tight spaces etc.
It appears that Jim believed that the original source of this substance was inside of the hot rocks. Source HERE

However, I believe that the true cause of Jim's magical substance was the presence of HIM in the water which was used to dilute the acid.
Somehow Jim's process caused HIM to physically behave in an uncommon manner.

This is my summary of Jim's process: [His actual process is documented HERE and HERE]
- Jim used some kind of black basalt rock from Eastern Oregon for his source material.
- First he grinded the rock into powder.
- Then dissolved the rock powder in heavily diluted hydrochloric acid.
- Next he slowly added weak peroxide to the acid/rock solution.
- Then added more diluted hydrochloric acid.
- Then slowly added calcium hypochlorite.
- Then added some salt.
- Lastly used sodium hydroxide solution to slowly raise the pH to cause a precipitate to form.
- The remaining solution was an orange/brown liquid, and the precipitates were said to be metal oxides.

My analysis of what was actually going on.
Basalt Rock.
→ Chemically the basalt rock starting material is some kind of iron compound.

Dissolve rock powder in weak HCl acid
→ he made the acid weaker by adding spring water to it → introduction of Gaia particles.
→ after dissolution he had a solution of mostly iron chloride + gaia particles.

Add peroxide
→ the free oxygen induces torsion spin on the gaia particles

Add Calcium hypochlorite.
→ converts iron chloride to iron oxide (in solution).

It was never said when Jim did his magnet stimulation of the solution, but I'm assuming it was before precipitating out the oxides.

Therefore....IMO somehow when the torsion charged gaia particle was attached to iron oxide in solution, it caused it to react to a changing external magnetic field and 'fly away' and recondense somewhere else in a very bizarre physical form.

This means that Jim's mysterious substance should be able to be recreated by simply dissolving iron oxide in acid, add spring water, peroxide and salt.
Then magnetically distill and condense as described HERE.

MB has already performed the chemistry part and has proven that it'll work out fine.
The difference is that MB performed multiple dissolutions and re-precipitations on his iron oxide.
MB also reported that after repeating many times, eventually the black precipitate changed to a precipitate of a dull white color (source HERE).
This proves that indeed something very strange is going on.
Note well that MB has also stated that he was using spring water in his process.
MB also claimed that all white powders produced from this process readily dissolved in ethanol.

I'm very confidant that Jim's strange magnetic substance is the same substance described in many alchemy texts as philosophical mercury because of agreement with the following anomalous properties:
- Smell.

Cochren:
A friend has described this odour as resembling the dewy earth on a June morning, with the hint of growing flowers in the air, the breath of the wind over heather and hill, and the sweet smell of the rain on the parched earth.
http://www.hermetics.org/cockren2.html

- Instant evaporation.

Cassanova:
Then he shewed me his magistrum, which he called athoeter. It was a white liquid contained in a well-stoppered phial. He told me that this liquid was the universal spirit of nature, and that if the wax on the stopper was pricked ever so lightly, the whole of the contents would disappear. I begged him to make the experiment. He gave me the phial and a pin, and I pricked the wax, and to lo! the phial was empty.
https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/39305/pg39305-images.html

- Condensing in tight spaces.

Seton:
the air by distillation through the pores of the earth is resolved into a water
https://www.sacred-texts.com/alc/hm2/hm204.htm

- Volatised by a magnet

Seton:
the magnet engenders or manifests our air.
https://www.sacred-texts.com/alc/hm2/hm204.htm

Only one problem remains.
Jim admitted that he did not know how to stop the strange substance from immediately evaporating when removed from the magnetic shield.
However, he later discovered that the mysterious substance will adsorb onto aluminum oxide desiccant beads, even penetrating a sealed container to do so (source HERE).

So, with all that in mind...from reverse engineering Jim's experiences, here's how I believe you can make philosophers mercury from water containing HIM:
1 Dissolve Black iron oxide powder in HCl acid plus peroxide.
2 Add water containing HIM
3 Add small amount of salt (protects HIM vapouring off early from earth's magnetic field).
4 Perform magnetic distillation on your iron oxide/HIM/peroxide/salt solution with aluminum oxide desiccant granules sitting inside the magnetic shield.
Magnetic distillation described HERE.
5 Soak the granules in an organic solvent such as ether or anhydrous ethanol.
6 Then simply add the enlivened ether (or ethanol) to your metal oxide salt and dissolve it.
If the metal oxide salt doesn't dissolve, then you'll first need to run through MB's process for a couple of cycles
7 Apply vacuum plus warmth to gently remove the solvent from the salt.
8 Repeat step 6 and step 7 multiple times with fresh solvent each time.

Other information given by Jim seems to indicate that the magnetic stimulation also happens with other acid metal solutions besides iron, so I'm pretty sure that you could replicate the same effect with other metals too.
But I'm erring to the side of caution and sticking with what's already been experimentally demonstrated.

Just to repeat, I'm not expecting anybody would ever bother to do this.
If you have access to water with HIM, then use the salt process for making a medicine and the dry path for making a transmutation stone.
Also, I'm not saying that this would be the only way to do it.
Just saying that it's a way.
And just reminding that I only post this for academic reasons.

One last thing
Barry Carter, after tasting Jim's magnetically produced oily liquid said on THIS PAGE

It tasted like the sweetest, most pleasant water that I had ever tasted. Like the sweet water from a spring coming out of the mountain side, only magnify this a thousand times.

IMO, Barry noticed exactly what I believe was happening, that Jim's process was actually producing a highly concentrated version of the HIM component of spring water.
I find it amazing that Barry, through his sense of taste, identified the actual source of Jim's magic all those years ago.
But either from fear, disbelief or ignorance he never publicly elaborated any further on the connection.

 

[black]

OK. I promised it. I know a couple of you are looking forward to it...so here it is.

Hi getto

WOW ..... this is some piece of work you have put together here !!!!

It's so good to see members stretching boundaries.

And don't pretend to be some "Armchair Alchemist" ... most of us here
know you have some history in the Lab.

It will be interesting to see if some members are prepared to "take up the gauntlet"
and give it a go.

As they say .... The proof is in the Pudding.

 

[Christophorus]

Spin off HERE

I will leave about THIS subject later on.

 

[Christophorus]

Only one problem remains.
Jim admitted that he did not know how to stop the strange substance from immediately evaporating when removed from the magnetic shield.
However, he later discovered that the mysterious substance will adsorb onto aluminium oxide dessicant beads, even penetrating a sealed container to do so (source HERE).

So, with all that in mind...from reverse engineering Jim's experiences, here's how I believe you can make philosophers mercury from water containing HIM:
1 Dissolve Black iron oxide powder in HCl acid plus peroxide.
2 Add water containing HIM
3 Add small amount of salt (protects HIM vapouring off early from earth's magnetic field).
4 Perform magnetic distillation on your iron oxide/HIM/peroxide/salt solution with aluminium oxide dessicant granules sitting inside the magnetic shield.
Magnetic distillation described HERE.
5 Soak the granules in an organic solvent such as ether or anhydrous ethanol.
6 Then simply add the enlivened ether (or ethanol) to your metal oxide salt and dissolve it.
If the metal oxide salt doesn't dissolve, then you'll first need to run through MB's process for a couple of cycles
7 Apply vacuum plus warmth to gently remove the solvent from the salt.
8 Repeat step 6 and step 7 multiple times with fresh solvent each time.

Today I have some time to write.
Again, an amazing post and thread. Thank you! Really.

OK. I promised it. I know a couple of you are looking forward to it...so here it is.
This is basically following on from my Dry path analysis post.

In the post about the dry path, I also summarized the wet path.
However, I never said how to create the required secret solvent.

It will take me some time to read all the linked information.
But I will try to figure it out and ask questions about what I don't understand!

All my best;
C.

 

[Skipper]

Instant evaporation

Hi G. Alchemist,
About one of your quotes.

Instant evaporation.
Cassanova:
Then he shewed me his magistrum, which he called athoeter. It was a white liquid contained in a well-stoppered phial. He told me that this liquid was the universal spirit of nature, and that if the wax on the stopper was pricked ever so lightly, the whole of the contents would disappear. I begged him to make the experiment. He gave me the phial and a pin, and I pricked the wax, and to lo! the phial was empty.
https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub...05-images.html

If my history serves me correctly, Cassanova was talking with St. Germain in Paris at the time. However, about this "white liquid". I am trying to pin it down in the experiences "Jim" was going through once he got "Nuked".
On your link about gutenberg above, I was'nt able to call it up, because I live in Germany and my IP Adress is blocked. Something about a legal process... Nobody in Germany is allowed to read this Link in Germany. but anyway.

Speculation on my part: Jim was actually the laboratory and the Philosophers Stone was fabricated in him! He was sort of a Carbon/Air activator and his stomach was the Alembic. Processing the metals (i.e. Iron rich blood) in his body and his sweat was a form of "our mercury" which had trapped your so-called "gaia particles" and through the evaporation process was pushing an end-product out of his skin. Gold!

Quite remarkable....

Did you ever wonder why Jim was always looking forward to his 22-23 hour sleep-time! I read somewhere along Alchemy treatises about one who went through a similiar experience, but could remember his dreams. I'll try to find it and post the link, but imagine being able to fall into this "trance", I'll call it. Then be able to leave your body, but be totally conscious of your surroundings. Be able to feel and hold things in your hand on the one hand and walk through a wall on the other!? Be able to go anywhere in an instant. Walk on clouds, talk to the dead maybe even Angels... Know where precious metals and stones are being produced anywhere on earth. Having a source of universal information... But at the same time, give your physical body the health it needs to survive, because it is not the time to die.

Reading this story about Jim, made these memories of my readings all come back. I have more. But I'll wait to see how you react to this. Things are trying to coincide with me and this thread was a great help.

I am only working the wet path, because my ability in chemistry is too limited to attempt the dry path. I will not allow myself to work with acids... And my starting material is very interesting, but safe... Maybe I'll post a video or pictures of my "oily water" one day...

Keep this thread going. If you don't find a medicine, you may at least find Gold. But I will continue to search for the medicine.

Great thread.
Skipper

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Thanks for your positive and warm replies Black, Christophorus and Skipper.

Yes Black, I know that I'm not really an armchair alchemist.
But sometimes it feels like the time in the lab is never enough.

Skipper:
On your link about gutenberg above, I was'nt able to call it up, because I live in Germany and my IP Adress is blocked

Ironic that gutenburg website blocks the very people who they stole their name from.
An easy workaround is to just install and use TOR browser to access

I've also often wondered what exactly happened to Jim.
I think that Jim absorbed a heap of heavy metals combined with gaia particles over a long period of time (Eg not from a single exposure as he stated).
It's interesting that he got better in several weeks from simply consuming peroxide.
I reckon that either the peroxide somehow transmuted the metal complexes to something non-toxic or it induced a much bigger torsion spin on them, thereby rendering harmless.
Curiously, Russian researchers have reported that well water contaminated with heavy metals would somehow detoxify itself if underneath a pyramid.
IMO the self purifying well water and Jim's peroxide healing are both due to the same effect, whatever that is.

As for the amazing psychic effects, for me truly knowing myself and my own heart trumps everything else that could possibly happen.
Don't even need any magic medicine to find my own heart, it's right here with me always.

Skipper, I'd love to see videos/pictures of whatever you have already or what you may produce in the future, so please put them up if you're willing to do so.

When I finished typing the original post on this thread and in the exact moment I clicked the “submit” button, I had a really weird sensation in my body.
It was the feeling you get when you take the first drop on a rollercoaster, you feel a weird sensation in your arms, your stomache drops out and there's a strong realisation that there's no going back.
I never experienced that before while making a post.
Before submitting, I just thought I was tidying up and clarifying things I'd already written about, nothing special.
But after I put it out, I had a strong sensation inside that post's gonna have some kind of big effect on the world someday, just don't know when or how.
The truth is I don't even really want it to, kinda hoping it just quietly fades into obscurity.
I'd rather see someone else open this whole thing up to the light of day.
So somebody, anybody....please feel free to push it further still.

 

[Kibric]

Great post GA.
Never heard of Jim. Thanks for all the info.

This stood out.

And you can see vapors coming off of it as it evaporates. You can see distortions just like heat waves through the air. Quite interesting.
When it evaporates it accumulates in specific areas. It does not just continue to go off into space. Literally, you'll see it in a comfortable part of the room, accumulate.

Definitely noticed, K noticed a distorted sense of perception. When he went to walk and stuff, he said it was like flying on acid or something because where he expected his feet to hit is not where it was hitting. He said he was feeling disoriented, also light headed and said he was having "visual acuity background noise", as he calls it.

Atmospheric*refraction*near the ground produces*mirages. Such refraction can also*raise or lower, or stretch or shorten, the images of distant objects without involving mirages.*Turbulent*air can make distant objects appear to*twinkle or shimmer. The term also applies to the*refraction of sound. Atmospheric refraction is considered in measuring the position of both celestial and terrestrial objects.

This Dry heavy Gas is refracting light causing mirages distorting spacial awareness in a confined area. Not a hallucination in the common sense.
Causing atmospheric refraction without a horizon and only objects in its locality. Mirages in the corner of the room.
This Dry heavy Gas has to be a magnetic gas to cause mirages in a confined space.
Jim might of done what MIT did before them. Making a magnetic gas.


I'm looking forward to more.

 

[Skipper]

Hey G. Alchemist,
You should get the rights to publish this documentary, then call up Chris Carter and let him set up another episode of the X-Files, so that Mulder and Scully can give us all a better view of this amazing story. Only problem here would be, the Government might start to get us all here more "in focus".... Neeee! Maybe not a good idea. At least not yet...

Gold splinters, growing out of the back of ones hands.... Awesome!

Wish you could find where Jim is and get a sequille to this G.A.! Wonder what happened to him...

looking forward to more!

 

[Skipper]

Very tedious work

I'm working on my M water with (hopefully) these possible gaia particles in it. I put a speaker magnet under the receiver. Before I did that (with the magnet), the drops would just float on top and then dissipate. However, with this magnet, it seems that this oily film moves down towards the magnet (hopefully to collect in the bottom of this receiver). I got this idea from this thread of yours GA. Thanks, I hope.
Anyway, I am separating the black from the white in this experiment. Very tedious work. If I only had some plastic tweezers!
I might send a little video some day. But technically I am not very good at this..
We'll see.
Again, thanks GAlchemist!

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Kibric, quoting Jim:
And you can see vapors coming off of it as it evaporates. You can see distortions just like heat waves through the air.

Good find Kibric.
I checked my notes, and found this quote from Russian torsion field research (original source lost from the net):

A strong torsion field will appear as a shimmering mirage in bright light and an air medium.
In weak lighting, a torsion field will appear as alternating light and dark bands.

To me, this further confirms what was already asserted....that gaia particles are powerful torsion charge carriers and that Jim's mysterious substance is simply concentrated gaia particles with high torsion spin.

Skipper:
You should get the rights to publish this documentary,....
Wish you could find where Jim is and get a sequille to this G.A.! Wonder what happened to him...

I'd love to make a documentary travelling all over the world interviewing ormus and alchemy guys/gals just like Joe De Kadt did in “All the gold you can eat”, but the very thought of it paralyses me with fear.
As for Jim, apparently he kept a very low profile after Barry posted those experiences on the web.

Skipper:
I put a speaker magnet under the receiver.

You need a magnetic shield around the receiver Skipper, not a magnet.
Jim did it with layers of mu metal, which is very expensive.
You can ghetto one with nested layers of steel containers, be sure to separate each layer with a piece of cloth or something similar.
Alternatively, if you have access to black magnetic sand, then another way to ghetto one is to make a MEOW kettle around your receiving flask

Kibric:
I'm looking forward to more.
Skipper:
looking forward to more!

I could put out some analysis about 4D/5D physics, and how seemingly different sources closely align with each other (Eg: transmutation, ormus, joe cell, torsion physics, cold fusion, etc).
But WRT alchemy processes, I think I might be tapped out fellas

Adding to my first post...even though I said earlier:

Me:
It appears that Jim believed that the original source of this substance was inside of the hot rocks.

Jim subsequently came to the realisation that the “secret sauce” of his anamolous results was a hidden component in spring water. He later invented the magnetic trap, of which the core purpose was, to concentrate the magical part of spring water through physical means.

Barry: [source here]
Based on these experiments Jim began to suspect that all natural water contained superconductive ORMUS materials which hang out in water. In early 1997, while he was living in Portland, Oregon, Jim figured out a way to trap or concentrate the ORMUS substances out of water.

Jim and Barry believed the magical component of spring water is “ormus components” (AKA metals in an unassayable form).
However, my belief is a bit different.
I believe magnetic concentration will only occur if the gaia particle is attached to a metal ion in solution.
This can and does sometimes happen in natural waters.
But some natural waters don't have any metal ions in solution, but do contain gaia particles.
IMO these second kinds of waters would not behave like the “ormus” spring waters, but would still have miraculous properties.
The specific differences between the 2 kinds of water are viscosity and weight.
The best trap water is cloudy, colored, snot-like and is 20% heavier than normal water.
My spring water after being pumped through a magnetic trap, is also cloudy with slight change in color, but viscosity doesn't change and it weighs slightly less than normal water.

This is not only my observation, on the forum's magnetic trap thread, Cyrano says

Cyrano: HERE
Has anyone ever noticed the fact that the waste water of the Ormus Traps, if collected and recirculated in the same trap,in a closed loop,for some times,its completely transformed, exhibiting all the characteristics of the 'good' Ormus water extracted, without presenting any waste?.

It's assumed that Cyrano was refering to cloudiness and change of color and not weight gain.
Cyrano also proves that changes can occur by recirculating the same container of spring water through a magnetic trap, which means the magnet trap itself is imparting some sort of change to the water.
IMO these changes in Cyrano's water (and mine) are simply due to the gaia particles getting torsion charged as they're pushed through the magnetic field.

So just to clarify, IMO:
- Pumping HIM spring water with metal ions through a magnetic trap will concentrate and torsion spin the gaia particle metal ion complex
- Pumping HIM spring water without metal ions through a magnetic trap will simply torsion spin the gaia particles, but won't increase their concentration.

I know all this prob sounds complicated, but it's really just an adjunct to the first post.
Specifically...yes, Jim did work out the importance of spring water.
And if you ever follow the instructions in the first post, then just get spring water and don't bother dicking around with a magnetic trap.

 

[Skipper]

Hi GAlchemist,
I don't really know what MU Metal or a MEOW kettle is, but that may not matter. The thing is, the drops falling into the reciever ARE oily. The oil disapates however and the water is super clear. When I tap on the glass reciever, it vibrates longer than if I were to tap on a normal glass of water. It of course is NOT "our mercury" at this point. However, I believe it is a good water to start a new experiment with that I read on a thread by nav2010..
I have developed a black earth that when I raise the temperature, will turn parts of it snow white.
I am currently working on separating these two colors until I of course, have only the white salt....
I know where I am going now, it is just that my method leaves a lot to be desired...

 

[Andro]

I don't really know what MU Metal or a MEOW kettle is

Google to the rescue!

https://www.google.com/search?&q=MU+metal

https://www.google.com/search?&q=MEOW+kettle

 

[Skipper]

Got it!Thanks again GA!

 

[Kibric]

*processes, I think I might be tapped out*

Fair enough. You did a thorough job.
I hope Jim is well somewhere.

 

[elixirmixer]

I think you are definitly on to something with the oxides thing.

I had this dream where i was walking upstream, in a relativly calm river.

There was copper sulphate (or acetate) crystals on the banks. I picked one up, and before my eyes, the crystal bloomed into the fuzzy microcrystals that you see when a crystal absords moiture from the air.

As the blue crystals bloomed via their deliquescence, it instantly became apparent that the river was filled with gemstones and treasure. And then I woke up with the image of that little crystal blooming in my hard hard burnt into my consiousness forever.

I feel like it was relivent to this conversation.

What i do not agree with is this process that you are talking about with the acids and peroxide etc.

Like you started with a jug of spring water. and then just add all this other stuff. Where is the concentration of gaia particles coming from here? There is most certainly not enough gaia particles in the single jug of water you used (imo)

Why all the acid and peroxide, like what is the hermetic theory going on here?

 

[black]

Hi Mr. Mixer

Like you started with a jug of spring water. and then just add all this other stuff.

With a hundred jugs of rain water (not spring water) you can get a proof of concept
experiment.

Where is the concentration of gaia particles coming from here?

It is totally impossible to get a concentration of gaia particles, "HIM", life force,
SM, etc from jugs of rain water to be able to work Alchemic operations in the
laboratory.

Trying to find "HIM" in water is like trying to find Gold in sea water, it is there
but you would need to process millions of gallons to get a very small amount.

There is most certainly not enough gaia particles in the single jug of water you used (imo)

So very correct Mr. Mixer ... as has been repeated over hundreds of years by the
Master Alchemists that the best and easiest place to collect this material is from
the Mineral / Metallic Realm.

This is where "IT" has accumulated over millions of years.

IMHO ......

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Mixer:
Why all the acid and peroxide, like what is the hermetic theory going on here?

We're living in the 21st century, you don't have to use the old way/s anymore.
Mineral acids were used by the old timers anyway.
Geber was distilling sulfuric acid, and using it to make nitric acid and ether, more than 1000 years ago.
Which writer is more hermetic than Geber?

As for peroxide....granted that the old timers never mentioned oxygen directly, but that's because it has only been properly discovered and labeled in recent times.
But that doesn't mean they didn't know about it or utilise it.

Old and True Natural Path: [source here]
Now, if man partakes of this
spirit through <air> together with food, so has by consequence some-
thing to be gained from man, out of which the master of nature can
create something good, and therefore follows just this conclusion,
namely, as long as we humans live, we draw the ⦶dem;* as long as
we draw the ⦶dem, we pull the <air> into us; and as long as we draw
the <air> into us, we live according to God’s will.

IMO the above passage is talking about the oxygen which the author knew is contained within nitre salt.
If you roast nitre to high heat, it decomposes giving off oxygen as one of the products.

Remember, the purpose of the OP was simply to lay out a clear way to make philosophers mercury for the wet path.
My goal was simply to know (and share) how I think this stuff works.

Mixer:
Like you started with a jug of spring water. and then just add all this other stuff. Where is the concentration of gaia particles coming from here?
There is most certainly not enough gaia particles in the single jug of water you used (imo)

Black is correct, the amount of spring water you need is proportional to the concentration of gaia particles.
So if you find a good source, then you'll need less water.
But dude, I never said 1 jug of water would be enough.
You'd need 1 jug of water for each batch of philosophers mercury you produce.
You're gonna need multiple boildowns with philosophers mercury, which subsequently means you're gonna need multiple batches and multiple jugs.
Also if you first run through MB's process, which you'll probably have to do, then you're gonna use quite a bit of spring water for that too.
[MB was using spring water to make his lye solution, which means that every time he did a pH swing he was adding some more gaia particles to the precipitated metal salt.]

But remember what I said.
If you have access to water with HIM, as it seems that you do, then forget this wet path stuff.
Do the salt process boildowns, but use saltpeter.
Then use your enlivened saltpeter for the Dry Path.
That process is probably a bit more in line with what you’re talking about.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Just adding an update to this thread...
There was some excellent analysis done by multiple people on the Cyliani thread, check it out HERE.
As a result of that analysis, it looks to me like ether can be loaded with HIM like so:
= make a saturated HOT water solution with vivified saltpeter (use the salt process to vivify the saltpeter)
= add diethyl ether to the hot solution and put the whole lot in a cool place.
= as the solution cools 3 versions of saltpeter should appear in 3 different places.
Some needles in the water, something in the boundary layer between water and ether, and something fluffy above the ether.

Since saltpeter is completely insoluble in ether, it is assumed the ether will become vivified with some of the HIM portion of the saltpeter.
Obviously this process could be repeated multiple times to further augment the amount of HIM in the ether.

No, I have not tried this, but IMO the textual evidence from multiple sources makes it pretty solid.

 

[Andro]

add diethyl ether to the hot solution and put the whole lot in a cool place.

Are you sure this is a good idea, adding Di-Ethyl Ether to a HOT solution, given its very low boiling point? Never done such a thing, but I'm bringing it up for safety concerns...

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Are you sure this is a good idea, adding Di-Ethyl Ether to a HOT solution, given its very low boiling point?

Ahh yes...you’re totally correct, thanks for pointing that out.

It’d have to be a WARM solution when you add the ether to it.
That’d still work though, I'm pretty sure that the nitre doesn't precipitate out until it gets quite cool.
Also I should add that best results will be if the cool place you put it is in a fridge.

 

[Lakshmana]

I would use a pressure vessel with a screw cap and heat to just above 70c in a water bath might be dangerous though. Also peroxide formations poses a risk of explosion this is kind of nuts but probably worth it.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

I would use a pressure vessel with a screw cap and heat to just above 70c in a water bath might be dangerous though. Also peroxide formations poses a risk of explosion this is kind of nuts but probably worth it.

Glad to see you’re still with us here on the forum....I thought we might have lost you old friend.
Indeed working with ether is dangerous, and risk of explosions is real.
Even the great Cyliani himself reported that he was permanently maimed from a lab explosion.
For anyone that’s gonna try working with ether, I figure it’s best to always use freshly made ether.
And if you insist on storing it, then add sodium metal to it first.

But just to be clear, IMO this “3 salts” method only uses ether to collect HIM as a saturated nitre HOT water solution is cooling down. So after you add the ether, you’re not heating anymore, but cooling.

Also, you might be interested in reconsidering THIS PAGE, (which you’ve already seen).
Remember how Kevin made vivified ether by simply pumping full moon air through a magnetic vortex trap and unspecified water solution, then ether digest the solution for a couple of days afterwards.
He reckoned the vivified ether would even dissolve gold!
For anyone interesting in replication there’s a 3D model of a similar vortex trap HERE.
Or just buy THIS ONE.

There’s so many different ways to do this stuff.
Gotta love being alive in this amazing time!

 

[Lakshmana]

I just recently made sulfuric acid. In the spring when the time feels right, I'll start some ether and air trap experiments. I've already tested the air trap and it seems to work very well for concentrating a cool stream of dewy air.
I had some interesting results with pyramid (multi layer orgone) experiments too, I think its most useful for a "snowbally" storage of energetic substances that attract more of themselves.
I'm currently trying to find a way to concentrate a large amount of negentropic "Him".

There’s so many different ways to do this stuff.
Gotta love being alive in this amazing time!

Absolutely, hundreds if not thousands of ways to achieve the same goal but the principles are incredibly simple.

Love of life

 

[black]

I feel the need to make comment on what is being said in this thread as the direction
of this post is moving into very dangerous chemistry.

I will remove the danger of this type of experimentation by stating that Ether cannot
collect the Him / SM (Spiritus Mundi) that is required to perform Alchemic Processes.

I know this to be a Fact not just conjecture from working with both Ether and
Him / SM (Spiritus Mundi) over many years.

Ether and Him / SM (Spiritus Mundi) must NEVER be worked together.

THEY ARE BOTH HIGHLY VOLATILE AND WILL REACT "AGAINST" EACH OTHER CREATING A VIOLENT UNCONTROLLABLE REACTION.

I ask those that are experimenting with Alchemy to please heed this warning.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Black:
Ether and Him / SM (Spiritus Mundi) must*NEVER*be worked together.
…..
I ask those that are experimenting with Alchemy to please heed this warning.

Thanks for that cautionary warning Black.
Indeed working with HIM and ether is a potentially dangerous path with multiple pitfalls.
This part is not a joke, there are people who have lost their lives or gotten very sick from not knowing the dangers from highly energetic explosions or strange radiation emanations.
Everybody please listen to Black on this one.

Black:
Ether cannot collect the Him / SM (Spiritus Mundi) that is required to perform Alchemic Processes.

Just to remind you Black....Kevin did say that after vivifying ether with full moon air from his magnetic trap that he was able to dissolve gold with it (LINK HERE).

I'm looking forward to the day that you decide to share your knowledge about the other solvent that's able to dissolve gold that isn't oxidised hydrochloric acid.
But until then....I'm gonna go with Kevin on this one and not you Black.

Lakshmana:
I just recently made sulfuric acid.

Way to go!!
You'll get ultimate bragging rights after you've distilled it for high strength and purity.

Lakshmana:
In the spring when the time feels right, I'll start some ether and air trap experiments.

I just realised that you're still in winter, fortunately for me it's still summer down here.
Just in the last couple of days I got a new ultra-quiet air compressor just so I can run this experiment during the night on the next full moon.
Of course I don't have any ether ATM, so I'll have to stop procrastinating and actually make some.