How to Extract the Sulfur and Mercury from a Metal?

[elixirmixer]

Well boil is a specific word. Do you just mean a gentle sweat?

 

[elixirmixer]

Okay Hoxie. Let's not be vauge.

Tell me what to do to re-create this and I will do it right now.

I have brand new glass wear. Good temperature control. A variety of synthetic salts.

I want to see this implosion you speak of.

 

[black]

OK, so let's get technical about this gold-dissolving "test".

OK.

Please define the difference between dissolving gold "alchemically" with the "SM" as opposed to other menstruums that only extract the metallic tincture and/or "dissolve gold" in a different manner.

I have dissolved gold with other menstrums, but only SM is of any interest to us to open the door to Alchemy.

What is the SIGNATURE of your "SM" facilitated dissolution?

A small piece of gold dropped into SM will disappear almost instantly.

As we increase the amount of gold the dissolution of it becomes noticeably slower.

I am saying "dissolution" up to this point ..... But if we continue to increase the amount of gold then visually it appears that the gold is being Broken or Opened.

Does the "SM" change color and consistency? Or does it remain completely unchanged and the gold simply "disappears" in it?

With small amounts it completely disappears.

If the "Spiritus" is altered in the process, what color and what consistency does it present after the dissolution?

I will not talk of ratios between SM and the gold as this knowledge is gained by many trials in the lab and working from one end of the ratio spectrum to the other the Alchemist will gain a valuable understanding of this Test.

If this Test is left overnight, then the following day the SM will show a pale yellowish color.

Does it "dissolve" the gold entirely? Or does it leave a residue behind?

If a considerable amount of gold is added to the SM then a residue will be found in the bottom of the flask.

Just some basics to establish a baseline.
Also, in light of your above claims, how would you reconcile this:

black said:
The trouble with collecting the concentrated, great and most powerful SM is what then to do with it? As SM on its own is almost totally useless.


Usually SM is recognised as one of Our Champions (SM and it's Equal) to generate an
Alchemic Process that must be performed in a very strong flask as there is a rather violent
reaction between the two.

But ..... SM can also be used to extract a Universal Quintessence from any of the 3 realms.

I say here Universal Quintessence because the Particular Quintessence is a greatly extended process.

Finding a Living Equal for SM (Spiritus Mundi) gives it a purpose ... "Alchemy".

 

[elixirmixer]

Awwwww geeeeeez I'm going to be an old man before this conversation between you two gets anywhere......

@MrBlack
Did it blow your mind when you found it?
Has it filled you with gratitude and awe?
Has it changed your life in any significant way?
What did you do with the gold tincture you made from it?
Did that blow your mind?
Have you tasted it? What does it taste like?
Have you felt the heavens open up or is it just another day?
What do you plan to do with this in the future to further your work?
Are you currently able to make a lot of this or just a small amount?
What was MrsBlack's response to your discovery?

These are all serious questions.

 

[Andro]

Awwwww geeeeeez I'm going to be an old man before this conversation between you two gets anywhere......

At this point I've already received the answers for (most) questions I've asked of Mr. Black on this thread, so thank you.

Note: In such cases, I usually don't ask questions that I don't already know the answer to.
It helps me determine the truthfulness of certain claims.

I got my answers now. So again, thanks.

 

[elixirmixer]

Okay so it's my turn.

What does Mrs Black think?

 

[Andro]

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What does Mrs Black think?

@elixirmixer

I don't think asking questions of such a private and personal nature is very appropriate.

Better stick to the lab aspects of the topic.

Thanks.

 

[elixirmixer]

Well I confess, that question was less serious than the others. I'm overall very interested to know how working with SM has made our friend Mr Black feel.

And what SM tastes like 🤔

 

[theFool]

Essentially yes.

The salt you use is common salt (sodium chloride) or some other kind of special salt?

Excuse my continued curiosity on that issue. I find it worthy of further elucidation.

The easiest way for me to explain this using plant matter as an example is that according to alchemical principles, a large amount of the the plant matters spirit(which is contained primarily within its oil-soluble compounds) is released in the vapors during the boiling process. Instead having those vapors evaporate like you would normally do, you instead have it circulate within the vessel so that the volatile spirits can continue to empower the plant and water contents.

I can understand that the "plant spirit" can be incorporated into the plant salt. However, the "oil soluble compounds" that carry it are composed of matter.
In the same way, I understand that the "SM" captured in the water by the help of the pyramid will be transfered inside the salt and "animate" it. But the water itself is just a carrier. How can it be "joined" into the salt? Does the mass of the flask decreases? Just some thoughts.

 

[Jimmy Rig]

How about hydroxides, they are formed from a metal/salt (sodium, potassium, calcium ) and.. water dried or am I wrong? LIke KOH could be considered a sort of dry water, deprived of excess hydrogen aroms. In this case the potassium “absorbed “ the water to make a hydroxide. NOT SAYING THIS IS HOW IT HAPPENS, just came to mind.

 

[Jimmy Rig]

How about hydroxides, they are formed from a metal/salt (sodium, potassium, calcium ) and.. water dried or am I wrong? LIke KOH could be considered a sort of dry water, deprived of excess hydrogen aroms. In this case the potassium “absorbed “ the water to make a hydroxide. NOT SAYING THIS IS HOW IT HAPPENS, just came to mind.

I also know these metals are highly reactive with water in their pure metal state, I am not incinuating that you make the hydroxide by mixing the metal with water but that the hydroxide holds the metal and water in a dry format

 

[Christophorus]

I really believe this thread should be read again because some of the principles that we are referring to are the same. At least in my view and based on a similar experience I had.
https://alchemyforums.com/index.php?threads/one-matter-one-vessel-one-fire.1310/

Anyway I think through distillation the rule of one vessel isn't broken, but more advanced.
Distillation is a simple way in this path to get rid of the excess phlegm without evaporating off our spirit.

I just found this segment from Vaughn that confirms my views on distillation in this specific '1/1/1' approach:

[...] avoid the broiling destruction. This doctrine will spare you the vain task of distillation, if you will but remember this truth - that sperms are not made by separation but by composition of elements; and to bring a body into sperm is not to distill it but to reduce the whole into one thick water, keeping all the parts thereof in their first natural union.

Also, from Mr. Tugel:

"A certain Artist came to see me and persuaded me not to distil my putrefied Water at all, saying that this tender Matter could not bear common Fire."

and:

And another variation for the most purist among you:

If the design and placement of your Vessel are in agreement with its purpose, you will have no need to manually collect any starting material whatsoever...

The Vessel by itself will be the Magnet for the Mercurial Fire, which will form/condense/collect/become corporified by itself in your Vessel and it will go through the stages/cycles without any inteference on your part.

It will, however, take quite some time

etc... This thread is A MUST!

The salt you use is common salt (sodium chloride) or some other kind of special salt?

Excuse my continued curiosity on that issue. I find it worthy of further elucidation.

I can understand that the "plant spirit" can be incorporated into the plant salt. However, the "oil soluble compounds" that carry it are composed of matter.
In the same way, I understand that the "SM" captured in the water by the help of the pyramid will be transfered inside the salt and "animate" it. But the water itself is just a carrier. How can it be "joined" into the salt? Does the mass of the flask decreases? Just some thoughts.

It resolves itself into nothing progressively.
Just do it and you will see it with your own eyes.
As referred before, this is really a very specific instruction that I never saw given as openly as Hox did.
The pyramid can be a nice addition to all of this - I don't know - but probably I will try it out just to see the effects. I made some experiments years ago with different structures and saw some interesting effects in some, so, I don't discard it. The HIM effect, in my perspective, is the MAJOR factor to consider in this kind of operation.

I must give my profound thank you to all of you, but especially to @Kibric who over time shared many perspectives and gentle guidance allowing me to see things I was blind to. And @Andro who gives everything to all so that each one can grow. This is from the heart!

C.

 

[Hoxmarch]

The salt you use is common salt (sodium chloride) or some other kind of special salt?

Excuse my continued curiosity on that issue. I find it worthy of further elucidation.



I can understand that the "plant spirit" can be incorporated into the plant salt. However, the "oil soluble compounds" that carry it are composed of matter.
In the same way, I understand that the "SM" captured in the water by the help of the pyramid will be transfered inside the salt and "animate" it. But the water itself is just a carrier. How can it be "joined" into the salt? Does the mass of the flask decreases? Just some thoughts.

Yes you can use common salt, even though I personally prefer sea salt. The main thing to take away from all this is that the salt allows you to see from a theoretical perspective how the vivification of the stone actually occurs, and it is also possbile by using similar methods you can create other powerful forms of medicines.

Now I can't tell you scientifically how it works, all I know is that the water combined with the vapors and the fire essentially work together to fix the spirit onto the salt and strengthen it.

And also in regards to using a pyramid I want to make an important point. The purpose of the pyramid should be seen as a workaround when it comes to the problem of vivifing the philosophical mercury. Traditionally the way it was done was by preparing the philosophical mercury in a manner which essentially made it magnet and allowed it attract the ''SM'' on it own without the work of the artist. Now how this was exactly done is still a mystery, so utlizing a pyramid could help fill in the gaps and help with that process. But I must warn you that even though I think the pyramid method is a good alternative, there is a great possiblity that it might not have nowhere near the same level of effectiveness as the traditional method in regards to creating the stone.

 

[black]

I can understand that the "plant spirit" can be incorporated into the plant salt. However, the "oil soluble compounds" that carry it are composed of matter.
In the same way, I understand that the "SM" captured in the water by the help of the pyramid will be transfered inside the salt and "animate" it. But the water itself is just a carrier. How can it be "joined" into the salt? Does the mass of the flask decreases? Just some thoughts.

Hi the Fool

I have mentioned it in the past that it is a total impossibility to collect SM (Spirirtus Mundi) in Water or Alcohol (Ethanol).

 

[elixirmixer]

Hi the Fool

I have mentioned it in the past that it is a total impossibility to collect SM (Spirirtus Mundi) in Water or Alcohol (Ethanol).

What makes you think that?

 

[elixirmixer]

You really need to stop with the bold and authoritative claims old friend. I have been one of your loyal supporters, but I think the issue that some people have is not only the way you present your opinion, (as an irrefutable fact, with no evidence and rarely even some actual decent philosophical quotes are  anything to back them up) but also that quite often these bold truths are actually incorrect.

Does the Alchemist not look to nature to copy what she is doing on a smaller and faster scale?

Look around you bro. Every single day for the past few million years at least, the earth has been refluxing her oceans in order to extract the SM out of sunlight. This is the entire premise of the golden chain of homer.

You  need to learn to put these three important letters before your statements (IMO) or at least something like (I have been lead to believe)

I personally don't give much weight to the way that information is presented and that's why I've never indulged in correcting any if your behaviour, probably wouldn't have even noticed if it weren't for the other people you seemingly upset.

But what you have just told the fool is totally incorrect. This is a water planet bro. And water planets are life bareing planets. And that is for a bloody good reason. Common man, you are an 80%+ water based lifeform. Stop drinking water and let's see how well the "waters of life(SM) sustain you without it.

I'm not suggesting that water is anything critically needed in this art. But to suggest that it is not capable of collecting SM is nonsensical.

Water does collect SM while it is in its gaseous state, albeit maybe not as well as what is needed for our work, however that would also depend on other factors, such as what the alchemist has done to improve the ability for water to collect SM such as employ a fucking pyramid bro.

(My bold button is broken now so ignore bold from here on, perhaps it's ment to be)

The statements about pyramids is also very incorrect. Pyramids act as step-down transformers of the Earth's magnetic field. They are the very thing that enables your DNA to hold consiousness within it. The word pyramid literally means "fire in the middle". Pyramids do not work the same as an Orgone accumulator. They should be used in conjunction with one. A pyramid is a transformer. An Orgone accumulator is a capacitor. And there has been extensive scientific research, particularly in Russia, about how the properties of water change inside a pyramid. That is scientific fact. Proven empirically many times over.

.

 

[elixirmixer]

1. "The Effect of the Pyramidal Form on Solutions of Some Salts" by Anatoli Golod. This Russian study claims to have found that a pyramid shape can influence the crystallization process of certain salts in solution.

2. "The Effect of Pyramidal Structures on Radioactive Substances" by A. Golod and U. Konovalov. This Russian study claims to show that radioactive materials inside a pyramid decay more slowly than expected.

3. "The Influence of Pyramidal Structures on Seeds and Seedlings of Barley and Wheat" by V. Krasnoholovets and A. Golod. This study suggests that pyramids can promote plant growth.

4. "The Impact of the Pyramid on the Physical Properties of Materials" by A.G. Antonov from the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences. This study investigates various claims about pyramid power, including the alleged ability to alter the properties of various materials.

 

[black]

What makes you think that?

Hi Mr. Mixer

If any Alchemist worked with SM (Spiritus Mundi) for 30 plus years I would like
to think that they would have a reasonably good understanding of it's Properties.

Being a member of this brotherhood of Alchemists on this forum, it would be
remiss of me to not mention a few of the Properties of SM tat I have found.

If you think what I say here is total rubbish ... that is your choice.

Your line of thinking offers you the opportunity of many years of deep study
and a lifetime of work in your laboratory.

What I stated was that pyramid energy has nothing to do with Alchemy.

If you don't believe what I'm saying about SM ... Then please prove me wrong
by collecting some SM (Spiritus Mundi) yourself and put it to the appropriate TESTS.

Then we will have so much more to talk about without all the conjecture.

Conjecture = an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

My hope is that many more members will collect and Test their SM.

I have a good feeling that one member is getting very close.

 

[elixirmixer]

I have committed myself to this task as my number 1 objective now. The way I intend to achieve this is rather difficult to achieve on a tight budget, but I'm sure the path will be opened to me as I press forward.

I guess right now all of my understanding is indeed theoretical conjecture so I will happily conceed for the time being.

But you also need to understand that, at least as far as the public posts of this forum, you haven't given anyone any reason to believe that you have achieved anything significant in Alchemy. So unless there is a blind-faith cult of MrBlack here, it is unwise to assert yourself as an authority.

There have been members in the past that made bold claims of assertion, however they usually come with at least a tidbit of some actual evidence.

Telling me that you have been working for 30 years does not constitute authority. JDP had invested much if the same time and as far as I can remember, utterly refused to believe in SM at all.

I have been working with my dick for 30 years. It doesn't make me a master of the pussy. I'm not trying to be rude to you. I would like that there should be peace and co-operation in the forum.

But there are different styles of work I. Alchemy and you haven't even made it at all clear in which way you work? And then you denounce certain truths based on the way that  you are working. Without context. Without evidence. And with self-donated authority. It's not a good look.

That was the way that I behaved, when I first arrived here. When I was a very young and foolish man..... Well I'm still young and foolish but at least now I can acknowledge it

 

[black]

But you also need to understand that, at least as far as the public posts of this forum, you haven't given anyone any reason to believe that you have achieved anything significant in Alchemy. So unless there is a blind-faith cult of MrBlack here, it is unwise to assert yourself as an authority.

Those that are working with SM know exactly what I'm talking about and those that
are not working with SM have virtually no understanding of what I'm talking about.

I'm not here for a Mr. Blacks Club ... I'm here to talk about Alchemy.

There have been members in the past that made bold claims of assertion, however they usually come with at least a tidbit of some actual evidence.

Like what ?

Telling me that you have been working for 30 years does not constitute authority. JDP had invested much if the same time and as far as I can remember, utterly refused to believe in SM at all.

My point is that if a member like JDP had worked with SM for 30 years then he
may well have a good understanding of it's Properties.

But there are different styles of work I. Alchemy and you haven't even made it at all clear in which way you work?

I work with SM (Our Mercury) which is the only Entrance into Alchemy.

 

[elixirmixer]

Like what ?

Well Lakmashana just showed us something that looked pretty damn close if you ask me. Not that I would know what it's suppose to look like, but what he showed would be exactly what I would have expected to see.

Green Lion also showed his dissolution of gold, at least for a short time before he decided that many were not worthy of his generous contribution.

Leo has shown things.
Kiorions showed his work.
Seth Ra has presented his very interesting and personal work.
I showed the super SM soaker 3000 😂🤣

 

[elixirmixer]

Solomon Levi.
The guys doing salt work.
Smernoff before he was banned.

 

[black]

Well Lakmashana just showed us something that looked pretty damn close if you ask me. Not that I would know what it's suppose to look like, but what he showed would be exactly what I would have expected to see.

Green Lion also showed his dissolution of gold, at least for a short time before he decided that many were not worthy of his generous contribution.

Leo has shown things.
Kiorions showed his work.
Seth Ra has presented his very interesting and personal work.
I showed the super SM soaker 3000 😂🤣

Solomon Levi.
The guys doing salt work.
Smernoff before he was banned.

So many members have done and are continually doing enormous amounts of
research and diligent work .... But only one member from your list has presented
anything that is genuinely Alchemic.

 

[elixirmixer]

Okay old friend. I'm not going to argue with you. Pyramids are fucking cool.

 

[Andro]

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Smernoff before he was banned.

@"Smernoff" is no longer banned. His ban was temporary and it expired.

He can choose to come back and "spar" with us any time, as long as he observes the Rules & Guidelines.