How to Extract the Sulfur and Mercury from a Metal?

[black]

As far as collecting the Spiritus Mundi I am actually willing to give out this secret. The current and most efficient way to gather large amounts of SM is through utilizing pyramidal forms. Pyramids have the power to attract and focus electromagnetic energy/spiritus mundi/light through its base. For those who are skeptical you should do some research on pyramidal forms and their power to accelerate plant growth.

Hi Hoxmarch

The comparison between the pyramids that people build today and the Great Pyramid
is like comparing a child's toy car to a real Ferrari.

Pyramids do not collect SM (Spiritus Mundi) .... if you do not believe what I'm saying
then please prove me wrong.

 

[elixirmixer]

Only the Alchemic Process can "FIX" SM ... But then it is no longer SM.

The Alchemist doesn't Multiply SM, the Alchemist uses Pure SM and the

Multiplication come much later with the power (Frequency) of The Stone.

Fair enough. It was a very vague statement I made and I'll admit, mainly just stirring the pot. It's an interesting subject, and I confess I really have no idea whatsoever about the way you are working.

I will point out, you are very hush Hush about what you do, and while I have always appreciated your good intentions over the years, I'm really not able to gather any practical benefits from your advices ya know 🤷‍♂️

I understand you work in the mineral kingdom. That's all I've been able to grasp from your posts.

I guess I'm not worthy 🤷‍♂️

 

[black]

Fair enough. It was a very vague statement I made and I'll admit, mainly just stirring the pot.

I view "stirring the pot" to be a good thing.

It's an interesting subject, and I confess I really have no idea whatsoever about the way you are working.

I will point out, you are very hush Hush about what you do, and while I have always appreciated your good intentions over the years, I'm really not able to gather any practical benefits from your advices ya know 🤷‍♂️

I understand you work in the mineral kingdom. That's all I've been able to grasp from your posts.

I guess I'm not worthy 🤷‍♂️

I have suggested to you over many years the potential benefits of going directly to
The Source of All Knowledge (Our Creator) for anything that you feel you need.

 

[elixirmixer]

@OP send me a message and I will teach you the acetate path if you wish. Without the suffering and without the carrots.

 

[Andro]

I will point out, you are very hush Hush about what you do, and while I have always appreciated your good intentions over the years, I'm really not able to gather any practical benefits from your advice ya know.

If you're not getting ANY practical benefits from what someone is saying/posting, you can always move on to the writings of those that DO offer at least some practical benefit. Like the good classical alchemical authors, and even some of the stuff that has been shared here on AF quite openly. Don't get stuck on useless fillers and vague platitudes. IMO.

 

[elixirmixer]

If you're not getting ANY practical benefits from what someone is saying/posting, you can always move on to the writings of those that DO offer at least some practical benefit. Like the good classical alchemical authors, and even some of the stuff that has been shared here on AF quite openly. Don't get stuck on useless fillers and vague platitudes. IMO.

🤭 I don't. Not anymore anyway. There have been times when such platitudes completely de-railed me.

Well.... Perhaps my own platitude 😅

But I know the path forward and there isn't much anyone could say now to convince me of otherwise.

And the grandur if life is gone. Completely. I know that the only thing I can truely rely on is the work of my own hands and mind.

I'm just stabilizing my situation and my main focus now is continuing the Great Work.

Super super secret volatile mixed with biblically universal fixed.

Of course, this will probably result in absolutely nothing interesting but I'm going to eat it anyway

 

[Andro]

There are many ways to dissolve gold ... but only a few ways to do it Alchemically.

I have dissolved gold in different ways and each way has very specific telltale sings and so does SM ... it has its very own Specific Signature.

OK, so let's get technical about this gold-dissolving "test".

Please define the difference between dissolving gold "alchemically" with the "SM" as opposed to other menstruums that only extract the metallic tincture and/or "dissolve gold" in a different manner.

What is the SIGNATURE of your "SM" facilitated dissolution?

Does the "SM" change color and consistency? Or does it remain completely unchanged and the gold simply "disappears" in it?

If the "Spiritus" is altered in the process, what color and what consistency does it present after the dissolution?

Does it "dissolve" the gold entirely? Or does it leave a residue behind?

Just some basics to establish a baseline.

Also, in light of your above claims, how would you reconcile this:

The trouble with collecting the concentrated, great and most powerful SM is what then to do with it? As SM on its own is almost totally useless.

 

[theFool]

Then make sure the flask is tightly sealed that no air escapes and then boil it until all the water dissapates, so all you left with is salt adhering to the flask and then you will a have form of vivified salt.

Do you imply that the water is somehow "absorbed" or "vanished" into the salt? Just wondering because you say the flask is tightly sealed.

 

[Christophorus]

I thought in something like:

 

[elixirmixer]

As far as using pyramids is concerned there are many diffrent ways that you can use them in terms of vivifing materials, and it is ultimately to the discretion of the individual. But one simple operaton in regards to vivifing salt is first obtaining a copper wire pyramid of suffcient size(8 inches or so) and make sure that one of the points of the pyramid is aligned with magnetic north. Then you take a glass of water with a good amount of salt in it and put it inside the pyramid. (Note the reason for using water instead of using salt on its own is beacuse water acts as an agent to facilitate the transfer of SM to the salt.) Then you leave the salt water there for a good amount of time(1 week to 1 month). Then once that is done, you take the water and put it in a round bottom flask and if you want you can add more water to the flask to create a sufficeint volume within it. Then make sure the flask is tightly sealed that no air escapes and then boil it until all the water dissapates, so all you left with is salt adhering to the flask and then you will a have form of vivified salt.

Now again this is a very simple way of doing this. There are other methods that can be utilized to possibly increase the vivification of the salt by exchanging one thing for another. For example instead of using a copper wire pyramid, you can use steel and then place a small neodymium magnet on each corner of the pyramid to magnetize it. Instead of using a glass vessel, you can use a copper or even a quartz cystal vessel for the water and instead of using regular water for the salt, you can you use distilled urine(in which I have particular interest in) or even collodial solutions like collodial gold.

There are also other factors to consider, a long continous decotion over a gentle fire that takes place over days, weeks or even months is better than a strong one that last a couple hours, but again not everyone is going to find the long deocotions practical for them and keep in my mind that other than of couple of things I just mentioned, alot of what I said is much more useful and applicable for spygarics than the philosophers stone

My observation of you since you arrived is that you seem to be progressing well as an alchemist.

My constructive feedback would just be that normally it is the face of the pyramid that we align with magnetic north, and also, as the Fool has gently alluded to here... If you "tightly seal" a flask with water in it . And then boil it. It will explode. Pressure will build up in the flask and the best case scenario is that the top will violently pop off your flask, or the worst case scenario is you will have boiling salt water and glass shrapnel in your eyes and face 👀

Alchemy is sooooo much more fun when you arnt bleeding out via your eyeballs.

With love.

 

[Hoxmarch]

Hi Hoxmarch

The comparison between the pyramids that people build today and the Great Pyramid
is like comparing a child's toy car to a real Ferrari.

Pyramids do not collect SM (Spiritus Mundi) .... if you do not believe what I'm saying
then please prove me wrong.

I respectfully disagree. All I'm going to say is that light which is the creative/animating force of creation, the ''secret fire'' of the philosophers is influenced by certain shapes beacuse of it's own spiraling nature. Pyramids is one of those shapes, cones are another.

 

[Christophorus]

as the Fool has gently alluded to here... If you "tightly seal" a flask with water in it . And then boil it. It will explode. Pressure will build up in the flask and the best case scenario is that the top will violently pop off your flask, or the worst case scenario is you will have boiling salt water and glass shrapnel in your eyes and face 👀

Not at all, dear EM. Not at all!
What Hoxmarch refers it is actually very exact and needed.

Then make sure the flask is tightly sealed that no air escapes and then boil it until all the water dissapates, so all you left with is salt adhering to the flask and then you will a have form of vivified salt.

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This refers to a very specific "tour de main" (Sleight of hand) and it cannot be clearer, in my understanding based in my practice. Call it "implosion".

 

[elixirmixer]

Okay Christophorous. You have done what few are able to do and sparked my interest. What are you talking about?

 

[Hoxmarch]

Do you imply that the water is somehow "absorbed" or "vanished" into the salt? Just wondering because you say the flask is tightly sealed.

Essentially yes. The easiest way for me to explain this using plant matter as an example is that according to alchemical principles, a large amount of the the plant matters spirit(which is contained primarily within its oil-soluble compounds) is released in the vapors during the boiling process. Instead having those vapors evaporate like you would normally do, you instead have it circulate within the vessel so that the volatile spirits can continue to empower the plant and water contents.

In the case of the philosophers stone, one thing that you need to remember is that the whole point of collecting the spritus mundi/astral spirit or whatver alchemical name you want to call it, is to have the SM that you have collected to volatize and continue to empower the philosopical mercury/solvent and the matter of stone to aid in the transmumation process. The Stone can not be done without it.

This is similar to the concept that the energies that are involved in the transmution process of a fetus is completely confined within the mothers womb

Emerald Tablet:

The father thereof is the Sun, the mother the Moon.
The wind carried it in its womb, the earth is the nurse thereof

Philalethes:

At this time, you must take care not to let the embryo escape from your vessel; for it will give out a greenish, yellow, black, and bluish vapour and strive to burst the vessel. If you allow these vapours (which are continuous when the Embryo is formed) to escape, your work will be hopelessly marred. Nor should you allow any of the odour to make its way through any little hole or outlet; for the evaporation would considerably weaken the strength of the Stone.

 

[Hoxmarch]

If you "tightly seal" a flask with water in it . And then boil it. It will explode. Pressure will build up in the flask and the best case scenario is that the top will violently pop off your flask, or the worst case scenario is you will have boiling salt water and glass shrapnel in your eyes and face 👀

Its an important point you raise. This is why whatever vessel you are using you dont want to fill more than 1/3 of it capacity to account for the increase in pressure and to avert exactly what you have stated.

 

[Christophorus]

Okay Christophorous. You have done what few are able to do and sparked my interest. What are you talking about?

Nav2000 said the same thing when he mentioned that the "ozone ate everything and tried to eat himself" is the same thing. Straight as it is described. The matter diminishes in volume and increases in weight as it continues to change. It is not something that happens in a second, it takes time and a lot of care not to explode. Good glassware makes it easier. Uniform temperature too. Very good and strong knots to keep everything sealed.

This is why whatever vessel you are using you dont want to fill more than 1/3 of it capacity to account for the increase in pressure and to avert exactly what you have stated.

Yes, or less.

 

[Christophorus]

Emerald Tablet:

The father thereof is the Sun, the mother the Moon.
The wind carried it in its womb, the earth is the nurse thereof

Philalethes:

At this time, you must take care not to let the embryo escape from your vessel; for it will give out a greenish, yellow, black, and bluish vapour and strive to burst the vessel. If you allow these vapours (which are continuous when the Embryo is formed) to escape, your work will be hopelessly marred. Nor should you allow any of the odour to make its way through any little hole or outlet; for the evaporation would considerably weaken the strength of the Stone.

"It does not exist in Nature, but has to be prepared by Art, in obedience to Nature's law. Its substance is in metals; but in form it differs widely from them, and in this sense the metals are not our Stone. (...) The specific properties of the metal have their abode in its spiritual part, which resides in homogeneous water. Thus we must destroy the particular form of gold, and change it into its generic homogeneous water, in which the spirit of gold is preserved; this spirit afterwards restores the consistency of its water, and brings forth a new form (after the necessary putrefaction), a thousand times more perfect than the form of gold which it lost by being reincrudated."

"The whole process which we employ closely resembles that followed by Nature in the bowels of the earth, except that it is much shorter. Nature produces the metals out of cold and humid Mercury by assiduous digestion;"

"It is that one true, natural, first-substance, to which nothing is added, from which nothing is subtracted, except certain superfluities, which, however, it will cast off without any aid by its own inherent vital action"

Celestial Ruby

 

[elixirmixer]

I apologize for my ignorance if that is indeed the case. But let's get this straight.

You are telling me that a water-salt solution, sealed tight in a flask, and boiled 😰 results in the water 'drying up' being somehow consumed by the salt?

 

[black]

In the case of the philosophers stone, one thing that you need to remember is that the whole point of collecting the spritus mundi/astral spirit or whatver alchemical name you want to call it, is to have the SM that you have collected to volatize and continue to empower the philosopical mercury/solvent and the matter of stone to aid in the transmumation process. The Stone can not be done without it.

You appear to be rather confused with what you are saying here.

It sounds like you think that SM (Spiritus Mundi) and Philosophical Mercury / Solvent
are two separate subjects .... They are not, they are one and the same thing !!!!!

The best advice I can offer you is to continue your study of Alchemy .... Read, Read, Read and
don't stop.

Also put all of your theories to the Test to prove what you believe to be correct and then you can be more confident about what you are posting.

 

[black]

I apologize for my ignorance if that is indeed the case. But let's get this straight.

You are telling me that a water-salt solution, sealed tight in a flask, and boiled 😰 results in the water 'drying up' being somehow consumed by the salt?

Hi Mr. Mixer

Perhaps Hoxmach or Christophorus could show us a video to explain more clearly

of what they are implying here.

 

[Christophorus]

Hi Mr. Mixer

Perhaps Hoxmach or Christophorus could show us a video to explain more clearly

of what they are implying here.

Hello Black.

I could... But I won't.

I stopped sharing whatever I was experimenting with for a long time because of your attitude of grandstanding and provocative nature.

You will not have that privilege again.

You can say whatever you want, and pretend whatever you need to compensate your ego.

I will not listen, or share the same table with someone that pretends to have everything and does not bring any wine to dinner.

You can always ask your mentor to show it to you.

 

[Hoxmarch]

You appear to be rather confused with what you are saying here.

It sounds like you think that SM (Spiritus Mundi) and Philosophical Mercury / Solvent
are two separate subjects .... They are not, they are one and the same thing !!!!!

The best advice I can offer you is to continue your study of Alchemy .... Read, Read, Read and
don't stop.

Also put all of your theories to the Test to prove what you believe to be correct and then you can be more confident about what you are posting.

Yes and no. The Spiritus Mundi and the Philosophical Mercury are only the same in the sense that they have the same origin, but were they differ is that one is aerial while the other is not. One subject in two diffrent forms. The reason why I make the distinction the way I do is to not create further confusion. For me to say that the Spiritus Mundi and the Philosophical Mercury is EXACTLY the same, its equivalent to me saying that water and ice is exactly the same. There is a a distinction

 

[elixirmixer]

Also, I think the issue with saying that they are same is also in the fact that we'll... They arnt at all the same.

SM as it is commonly used in the context of this forum would be either the etherial floaty goodness in the atmosphere OR could be spoken about in it's liquid form aswell.

However the Philosophical Mercury is the secret solvent is: SM after it has been cohobated with its earthy counterpart.

I believe that dissolving gold is a good test for SM but it is not the correct way to proceed with the work. You need fixed and volatile. Salt & Nitre, as they say.

 

[elixirmixer]

Which brings me to another point. I hear a lot of talk about dissolving and fermenting actual metallic gold. I'm not sure this is correct, nor would I use white powder if gold either.

I would be using the Sulfur of Gold as extracted via the acetate path. The red stuff. This is just my intuition and opinion. Why would you want the Salt of Gold in your work? You already have a salt? Duh...

 

[Hoxmarch]

I apologize for my ignorance if that is indeed the case. But let's get this straight.

You are telling me that a water-salt solution, sealed tight in a flask, and boiled 😰 results in the water 'drying up' being somehow consumed by the salt?

Yes but the key is the temperature that you use to boil. Its better to use a moderate and more gentle form of heat than compared to one that you would use to cook or make tea as an example.