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Pipette does not work at all. But a separation funnel does it well.
It is really oily stuff. I'm going to prepare a bit of it so that it is workable. In a few days, I should have it.

Something is not entirely clear to me from the pictures...

The Salt depicted in the Left and Center Images, was it there before?

Or did it "appear" inside an oily stratum on top of the Water?
 

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black said:
Evidence of proof" ... is not allowed to be made public

Rubbish. The great spirit cuts strings not binds them.

black said:
You have given me a nudge so I'm thinking about an experiment with photos to place in the forum. Any suggestions ?

No. I got nothing else to say.
 

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Something is not entirely clear to me from the pictures...

The Salt depicted in the Left and Center Images, was it there before?

Or did it "appear" inside an oily stratum on top of the Water?

What I'm perceiving is that there are 2 different similar materials that show up, or maybe both are part of the same (I don't know yet. A higher volume of it will permit me to see it well). One is oily and floats on top of the water. The other tends to go down as soon as the temperature of the water decreases.

Both this "salt of salt", and "sulfur of salt" only manifest after the first salt as being solved (at least once) in distilled spring water where "Him" is present. After the coagulation 3 paths appear:

1 - increase the virtue of the salt (more S&C = better results) - If the water has Him, the salt will begin to go up.
2 - Increase the virtue of the salt with calcination, filter (paper + cotton ball) and then S&C (more S&C = better results)
3 - Increase the virtue of the salt with calcination, solve it again, and put it in fire.

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The first one produces a very white and thin dusty salt. After 7 or 8 S&C it begins to aggregate itself in larger pieces. It goes up to the top of the glass.
The second one produces very well-defined and transparent crystals. I saved some 4 or 5 perfect cubic salt crystals with faces of around 5 to 6mm. It goes up (and outside) to the top of the glass.
It was in the second that the "brown dust" was noticed. I was filtering it non-stop to get rid of the brown matter.
This gave origin to the set of experiences many of us are performing. The number 3.

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The process I'm performing (from the number 3) starting a zero is:
1 - Solve the 1st salt
2 - Coagulate it (note: more S&C = better results)
3 - Calcine it
4 - Solve it

In the 3th step the salt manifests a different color. From pure white it becomes greyish.
In the 4th step the brown matter is not differentiated until the water gets hot. Then it will differentiate and the brown stuff floats in a kind of oily stuff.
If the temperature of the water is rapidly decreased (just taking it from fire) part of the brow stuff goes down.

Different fires, waters, and crucibles produce different quantities of it. I noticed that if the salt in the fire (calcination) is attended by the operator and gently open with a glass tube (more air) it tends to produce more brown material.

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Just attend the small vase were I'm depositing it.
In normal temperature, the brown stuff goes down.
 

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I believe the going down has to do with the fact that the salt begins to crystalize in It (as seen in the microscope).
In the following days, I will gather it and then clean it the best I can.

There's: an oil, water, and salt in the bottom.

 

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Thank you Illen.

Yes ... the Great Spiritus Mundi / The "HIM" that must be Evolved and concentrated.

This is the manifestation of the light of the Black Sun.

Then through Alchemic Multiplication to increase it's Energy many thousandsfold to then be able to Transmute. :)

I'm not sure about the usage of the term "Black Sun". This term may not be in a proper context.

My understanding of the traditional meaning of "Black Sun" is that it refers to the Negredo stage and "killing the dead to revive the living". In other words, all metals are considered dead and have to be made "green" again.

But regardless, we are both talking about Spiritus Mundi.
 

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Hi Illen

I'm not sure about the usage of the term "Black Sun". This term may not be in a proper context.

The light coming down to the earth is the energy emitted from the Black Sun.
This is about the "Two Luminaries" that you so kindly posted a revue of for me some months back.
I now have a copy of the book and am beginning to translate it from the French.

Green Lion spoke about this many years ago.

Green Lion said:
Salazius, Edmond Fieschi did not understand the real source of the "Cosmotelluric Energy".

Nothing to do with ultraviolet or "visible light" in general.


Alchemy use the "Black Light", the light which no one of our "instrument" can see.

My understanding of the traditional meaning of "Black Sun" is that it refers to the Negredo stage and "killing the dead to revive the living". In other words, all metals are considered dead and have to be made "green" again.

Yes ... through Alchemy the metals can be enlivened.

But regardless, we are both talking about Spiritus Mundi.

Absolutely ... without Spiritus Mundi there is nothing.
 

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black said:
Yes ... the Great Spiritus Mundi / The "HIM" that must be Evolved and concentrated.

This is the manifestation of the light of the Black Sun.

Then through Alchemic Multiplication to increase it's Energy many thousandsfold to then be able to Transmute.

When I was making the Stone, the same process happened to me in real life in parallel. I was dealing with a guy who was metaphorically the Black Sun or the Prima Materia but in highly concentrated form. He was intense in the most sinister way imaginable, a true devil. I overcame his attacks in 24 hours, and that's when I was able to make the Stone to glow. I must avoid the guy now, because if I have any more encounters with him, the Earth may pop like a water balloon.

This is a true story, one of the lessons here is that you don't need to do lab work, you can become the Stone through your day to day dealings. The Stone will then just manifest itself life magick, like it did for Jesus.

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You could post an experiment showing "highly concentrated HIM" and its action on various matters.

This makes me wonder what would happen if I used the maximum concentration possible of the Prima Materia on a particular. The thought of it scares me. If it goes straight to the glow, it might detonate.
 

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Hi Uncle Scrooge, it's always good to hear from you.

When I was making the Stone, the same process happened to me in real life in parallel. I was dealing with a guy who was metaphorically the Black Sun or the Prima Materia but in highly concentrated form. He was intense in the most sinister way imaginable, a true devil. I overcame his attacks in 24 hours, and that's when I was able to make the Stone to glow. I must avoid the guy now, because if I have any more encounters with him, the Earth may pop like a water balloon.

This is a true story, one of the lessons here is that you don't need to do lab work, you can become the Stone through your day to day dealings. The Stone will then just manifest itself life magick, like it did for Jesus.

Well now Scrooge I can only advise you to stay away from Dark Entities as they cannot help anyone with Alchemy (it is Divinely Protected) but as for "magic manifestation" that could be possible. :confused:

This makes me wonder what would happen if I used the maximum concentration possible of the Prima Materia on a particular. The thought of it scares me. If it goes straight to the glow, it might detonate.

Don't be "scared" Uncle Scrooge what you are writing here is totally convoluted and not possible.

I hope all is going well with you ... are you still consuming lots of drugs as some drugs can be responsible for Dark Entities showing up at your front door. ;)
 

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John 16:13-21

"But when He, the Spirit of Truth (the Truth-giving Spirit) comes, He will guide you into all the Truth (the whole, full Truth). For He will not speak His own message [on His own authority]; but He will tell whatever He hears [from the Father; He will give the message that has been given to Him], and He will announce and declare to you the things that are to come [that will happen in the future].

He will honor and glorify Me, because He will take of (receive, draw upon) what is Mine and will reveal (declare, disclose, transmit) it to you.

Everything that the Father has is Mine. That is what I meant when I said that He [the Spirit] will take the things that are Mine and will reveal (declare, disclose, transmit) it to you.

In a little while you will no longer see Me, and again after a short while you will see Me.

So some of His disciples questioned among themselves, What does He mean when He tells us, In a little while you will no longer see Me, and again after a short while you will see Me, and, Because I go to My Father?

What does He mean by a little while? We do not know or understand what He is talking about.

Jesus knew that they wanted to ask Him, so He said to them, Are you wondering and inquiring among yourselves what I meant when I said, In a little while you will no longer see Me, and again after a short while you will see Me?

I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, that you shall weep and grieve, but the world will rejoice. You will be sorrowful, but your sorrow will be turned into joy.

A woman, when she gives birth to a child, has grief (anguish, agony) because her time has come. But when she has delivered the child, she no longer remembers her pain (trouble, anguish) because she is so glad that a man (a child, a human being) has been born into the world."
 
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There's an interview with Martin Pytela in the ormus group chats, which you can find a link to HERE.
Martin is an amazing person who has an incredible understanding of the amazing spirit of the world.
Martin says 'ormus', while I say 'HIM'....a rose by any name still smells as fragrant.
Martin describes the life cycle of HIM as follows:

= The core of the planet is heavily concentrated with particles of HIM.
= Volcanoes eject volcanic ash and magma from deep underground to the surface, which moves particles of HIM from the core to the surface.
= The surface areas surrounding volcanic activity briefly flourish with life as the HIM particles are gradually dispersed.
= Over time, the particles of HIM eventually get washed into the oceans as river sediment.
= In the oceans, the pieces of HIM are absorbed by ocean dwelling life-forms which collect and store it inside calcium carbonate.
= The ocean creatures later die leaving the pieces of HIM trapped in the calcium carbonate skeletons.

But I would add just a little bit extra:
= Over eons of time the calcium carbonate skeletons coalesce together to form limestone rock
= Over more time, the sea beds rise and become dry land
= Ground water gradually dissolves the limestone, redistributing HIM back into the cycle of life for another round.
[Allowing the clever alchemist the opportunity to intercept HIM by collecting limestone spring water.]
= And so on....

Martin also had an incredible understanding of the extra dimensional nature of Gaia particles.
Unfortunately the audience had no interest in hearing his understandings and he was quickly steered to other topics, but not before he was able to communicate the following:

= Martin imagines individual Gaia particles as being objects of 3 dimensions.
= But....each one is dimensionally rotated so that one of the dimensional arms projects into the 4th spatial dimension.
= This means that in our 3D world, only 2 of their dimensions are visible to us.
= Martin says that if you pack many of them together in a substance, their surface area of contact is huge but they have absolutely no volume.
Just like lots of pieces of ultra-thin paper.
= In other words, they exert significant influence in this world, but can't be physically measured or detected.

IMO Martin has given us a really good metaphor to try to imagine and understand how Gaia particles work their magic.
I only disagree with Martin on one point.....IMO Gaia particles can be measured based on their effect on salts.
Most notably they change the color of silver oxide from brown/black (when there's none) to white (when there's loads of them).
I started a thread discussing this HERE.
 

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Just making a correction from my original post of this thread.

In the OP, I said:

ghetto alchemist said:
“EM radiation causes Gaia particles to spin faster. Including sunlight.”

I originally thought this because:
= Hudson placed a moist white powder in sunlight that disappeared in a flash of light.
= Jerel made colloidal gold, oxidized with peroxide and then placed in sunlight and made a p-stone.
It seemed to me that sunlight was somehow giving the Gaia particles a bit of a torsion kick.

But.....I now realize this is not the case.
It turns out that leaving HIM water in direct sunlight, causes an unpleasant taste and induces illness after drinking it.
Ask me how do I know this :(
Others have made similar reports of getting sick after mild exposure to DOR radiation.
IMO, DOR is emission of neutrons and strange radiation, after strong torsion brake force is applied to Gaia particles.
DOR emission is akin to my metaphor of the spinning plates falling off the stick and smashing on the table.
IMO the standard reaction in cold fusion is for the stalled Gaia particle to smash into a deuterium atom and cause 2 free neutrons to eject out.

The standard deuterium reaction:
Gaia particle + deuterium atom (neutron/proton/electron) = 2 free neutrons

To accept this, you'll have to understand the following:
proton + electron + gain particle = neutron
Classical physics already has this same understanding, although they use the word neutrino instead of Gaia particle.
A rose by any other name.....

Sunlight reaction:
It appears that sunlight can induce a similar reaction in atoms heavier than deuterium.
Gaia particle + [atom bigger than hydrogen] = 2 free neutrons + [original atom minus 1 neutron, 1 proton and 1 electron]
In other words ..... sunlight + Gaia particle transmutes an atom into an element one position lighter on the periodic table.

Expanding further:
UV/laser light causes the same reaction as direct sunlight because:
= LENR experiment of shining laser into magnet+sunlight exposed water emits strange radiation.
= Moray increased amount of precious metals in solution by bombarding with “high energy photons”

In Hindsight, ormus researchers reported years ago that sunlight/EM converts ormus to metal, the same as sulfates/carbon/carbon monoxide/nitrous oxide/sulfur.

So I should've known about sunlight all along :p
 

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In your view, how would this sit with some Alchemical practices of condensing an Alchemical Spiritus using sunlight with lenses, mirrors, etc.?

If memory serves, Wilhelm Reich claimed that DOR is only (or mainly) manifesting in "contaminated" energy environments, such as EM pollution, radioactivity, etc... Which was much less the case in "older" centuries...

The ONLY contemporary case (that I directly know about) of condensing an Alchemical Spiritus using optical methods (a Spirit that was subsequently "progressed" to the potency of actual, proven Transmutation), was when the condensation was literally performed in the desert, i.e. no clouds, no electrical grid, basically far away from "civilization".

But.....I now realize this is not the case.
It turns out that leaving HIM water in direct sunlight, causes an unpleasant taste and induces illness after drinking it.
Ask me how do I know this :(
Others have made similar reports of getting sick after mild exposure to DOR radiation.
IMO, DOR is emission of neutrons and strange radiation, after strong torsion brake force is applied to gaia particles.
DOR emission is akin to my metaphor of the spinning plates falling off the stick and smashing on the table.
 

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In your view, how would this sit with some Alchemical practices of condensing an Alchemical Spiritus using sunlight with lenses, mirrors, etc.?

I did say that Jerel made his amazing substance by placing his oxidized colloidal gold solution in sunlight.
Whatever is actually going on in Jerel's process, the effect would be far more pronounced and quicker if you used a lens/mirrors.
Sunlight makes colloidal gold turn a darker shade of red.
I'll admit I still don't understand this effect.
Do you have any ideas about Jerel's process or the old timers using those massive lenses?

If memory serves, Wilhelm Reich claimed that DOR is only (or mainly) manifesting in "contaminated" energy environments, such as EM pollution, radioactivity, etc... Which was much less the case in "older" centuries...

Yeah they wouldn't have needed to worry about DOR from EM pollution in the earlier times.
But they still had elemental sulfur and radioactive rocks such as pitchblende to watch out for.
I definitely seen a couple of references in the old texts about the alchemy potentially producing a deadly poison.

The ONLY contemporary case (that I directly know about) of condensing an Alchemical Spiritus using optical methods (a Spirit that was subsequently "progressed" to the potency of actual, proven Transmutation), was when the condensation was literally performed in the desert, i.e. no clouds, no electrical grid, basically far away from "civilization".

I never heard of this... please tell more...
 

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Maybe sunlight + lens + miron ultraviolet glass would interesting to kind of filter the sunlight to get the best parts only?
Some say the violet rays are more energetic and wont degrade matter

Dark red gold sounds like it coagulated to me at least.

Interesting stuff
 

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Do you have any ideas about Jerel's process or the old timers using those massive lenses?

Don't know about Jerel's process. As for lenses and mirrors, there are quite a few old alchemical texts dealing with Solar Alchemy. Arcana Divina is one of them, I believe. Very graphic. There are other texts that I can't recall at the moment.

I definitely seen a couple of references in the old texts about the alchemy potentially producing a deadly poison.

If we work on the lowest (Earth) level, i.e. with metals/minerals, there is more "crap" to get rid of in the process and more dangers of toxicity/poisoning. Less so on the "Water" level (I think Brine or Mother Brine is referenced in some R+C texts, such as Thesaurus Thesaurorum), and even less impurities or toxicity on the Air level (Sun + Air + Optics, etc...), and the purest would theoretically be the pure Fire level condensation, directly from the Source.

I never heard of this...please tell more....

Can't, unfortunately. This particular practice did not originate from me (I wasn't the one who conceived it), so I cannot really discuss it beyond what I already wrote. Sorry. But the Optical Alchemy texts should contain all the relevant info to start experimenting. The only truly essential addition I posted is the desert environment.
 

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The ONLY contemporary case (that I directly know about) of condensing an Alchemical Spiritus using optical methods (a Spirit that was subsequently "progressed" to the potency of actual, proven Transmutation), was when the condensation was literally performed in the desert, i.e. no clouds, no electrical grid, basically far away from "civilization".

Yes, this is genuine Alchemy. :)

This process works, but it is a slower method.

There is no concern about EM pollution with this process.
 

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There are other texts that I can't recall at the moment.

The Optic Chapter in Hyle and Coahyl is very good (starting on page 59). Also the "Lana Terzi method" (somewhere on this forum I believe). Also the GUR manuscript (5th Grade), of which Florius Frammel was so kind to transcribe and translate the first chapter and post somewhere else on this forum. There's probably more, but I can't recall. There's also a thread called The Solar Path.
 

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Also the GUR manuscript (5th Grade), of which Florius Frammel was so kind to transcribe and translate the first chapter and post somewhere else on this forum.

Just noticed that the Image from the GUR manuscript that Florius uploaded is gone... So here is is again:

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The accompanying textual translation/summary kindly posted by Florius Frammel can be found HERE.

Also, the "Lana Terzi" text/method from the "Solar Path" thread can be found HERE.
 

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Yeah they wouldn't have needed to worry about DOR from EM pollution in the earlier times.
But they still had elemental sulfur and radioactive rocks such as pitchblende to watch out for.

If we're already talking of Orgone and Sulfur, and to use a comparison with "Orgonite", Sulfur would represent the "poor conductor" but Spirit/Orgone concentrating protagonist.

Conversely, metals are the Spirit/Orgone attractive and forward-passing protagonists.

This is what makes metal/Sulfur compounds so "alchemically interesting", such as Iron Sulfates (copperas/vitriols) or Iron Sulfides (Marcasites, Pyrites), or even Cinnabar (Mercury Sulfide) for the super daring.
 

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If we're already talking of Orgone and Sulfur, and to use a comparison with "Orgonite", Sulfur would represent the "poor conductor" but Spirit/Orgone concentrating protagonist.
......This is what makes metal/Sulfur compounds so "alchemically interesting", such as Iron Sulfates (copperas/vitriols) or Iron Sulfides (Marcasites, Pyrites), or even Cinnabar (Mercury Sulfide) for the super daring.

From the way that you’re talking I can straight away tell that you never put sulfur with your German spring water together in a furnace.
You’ll only ever do it once.

The one time I did it, it made the surrounding air go really strange.
The surrounding air started manifesting a superfine black powder which deposited on EVERYTHING.
And I started to feel quite ill.
Fortunately after I removed the reaction pot from the fire, things slowly returned to normal and eventually I was able to clean away all the black stuff off everything, (it took a long time to fully clean up though).
The experience totally freaked me out, my mind couldn’t fathom what the hell happened.

Later I discovered that Reich had described the exact same phenomena.
In his case the black powder deposited on the area immediately surrounding his ranch for several weeks after the oranur experiment.
Reich named the substance Melanor and associated it’s appearance with DOR energy.

Looking back on my experience, I now realise how lucky I was...
= I wasn’t close to the firebox while the reaction was occurring, probably 2+ metres away at all times.
= I didn’t run the reaction for too long, because I removed it from the fire as soon as I noticed the heavy air and black powder depositing everywhere.
= The reaction was occurring inside a sealed firebox which would have limited the escape and spread of whatever was occurring

Don Nance was not so lucky as myself and became gravely ill from doing the same/similar reaction.

You can try it yourself if you want to find out, or you can simply take my word for it...
@high heat -> HIM water + Sulfur + black iron oxide + quartz powder = something very bad (aka DOR/strange radiation)

Don Nance later tested the reaction slag and discovered transmuted elements.
I did no such thing, I threw the entire result (including the pot) into the garbage, with great delight to have it gone from my life.
 

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From the way that you’re talking I can straight away tell that you never put sulfur with your German spring water together in a furnace.
You’ll only ever do it once. The one time I did it, it made the surrounding air go really strange.

Why would you combine sulfur with "HIM" water in a furnace?

Anyway, I was talking about the interest some metal/mineral alchemists have in naturally formed metal/sulfur compounds, such as sulfates and sulfides.

Also, I'm not in Germany anymore and not planning to go back.

From where I am now (an island in the Atlantic), it's much easier/faster to reach a desert area :)
 

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Why would you combine sulfur with "HIM" water in a furnace?

It was a combination of the geode process and what nature does in gold producing veins.
This was after I’d had my realization that HE lives in limestone spring water, but before I’d realised about neutron/DOR/SR emission.
I’d unwrapped some stuff in my head, worked out the active ingredient/s and wanted to make something amazing happen.
I certainly did that, but it wasn’t quite in the way that I’d expected.

From where I am now (an island in the Atlantic), it's much easier/faster to reach a desert area :)

What you said about condensing spirit from desert air had recently got me thinking.
Are deserts devoid of life because there is little of the spirit of life around?
Or is it that deserts are devoid of life because there’s no water to support it, leaving loads of the life spirit in the air which never gets absorbed?

I’d lean towards the first, but it could just as well be the second.
If you end up trying this out, please let us know the result/s.
 

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Exodus 16:31-32

31 And the house of Israel called the name of it Manna, and it was like to coriander seed, but white: and the taste of it was like unto wafers made with honey.

32 And Moses said, This is that which the Lord had commanded, Fill an omer of it, to keep it for your posterity: that they may see the bread wherewith I have fed you in wilderness, when I brought you out of the land of Egypt.
 

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What you said about condensing spirit from desert air had recently got me thinking.
Are deserts devoid of life because there is little of the spirit of life around?
Or is it that deserts are devoid of life because there’s no water to support it, leaving loads of the life spirit in the air which never gets absorbed?
I’d lean towards the first, but it could just as well be the second.

Just saw this post. I incline towards the latter.

Reich's Orgone model recommends dry areas (low humidity) with strong sun and no clouds + higher altitude (better UV exposure?) for best Orgone Accumulation.

Also the absence of man-made (non-native) EM pollution/interference.

Years & years ago I had a small getaway place in a small desert town somewhere in the world.

Very hot days, chilly nights, very few clouds, practically no rain at all... Around 800-900 meters altitude, if memory serves...

Yet, the place was bursting with life force and it also attracted more than a few "mystics". Non-locals would often come to visit for "retreats".

"Desert Power"
from Dune comes to mind...

When I relocated away from Germany last summer, the initial intent was to relocate to a similar high-desert area. But the Fates wanted otherwise... At least for now... I might still get there...