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"ghetto style" absorption meter:

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Unfortunately finding proper UV source isn't that easy. Most UV leds around are out of the region of expected peak absorption and the arduino sensor is not sensitive enough.
 

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Unfortunately finding proper UV source isn't that easy. Most UV leds around are out of the region of expected peak absorption and the arduino sensor is not sensitive enough
Sorry to hear that it doesn’t work right off the bat.
Which UV source and sensor have you got there?
The same ones that I was thinking of using? Or something different?
My spectrophotometer uses a deuterium bulb, so one of those should be a goer although it’ll cost a bit more.
 

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Sorry to hear that it doesn’t work right off the bat.
Rarely it does.
Which UV source and sensor have you got there?
The same ones that I was thinking of using? Or something different?
The sensor is the same as the one you proposed in ebay. Some UV led for sterilization was used for light source but I doubt it was really UV-C wavelength. Common leds that are used for detecting fake money and "black light" tubes also don't give results. Mercury lamp is the last resort and maybe some UVC led from reputable source.
My spectrophotometer uses a deuterium bulb, so one of those should be a goer although it’ll cost a bit more.
mm then it won't be ghetto enough!
 

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I ordered a Radiacode X-ray - Cosmic radiation spectrometer lets compare notes later.
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Sweet nice work @Lakshmana. Keep us posted.

Does anyone have any experience or hunches on how using epoxy resin to cast magnetite might effect water in the same or different way? ie freezing the magnetite in the epoxy resin to use as a MEOW kettle - same or different?

My hunch = same or close enough.
I am going to test it out but wanted to know if y'all had any notions before I do so.
 

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I think the layered and Epoxy free versions are more effective, if you really want to use resin maybe consider a tree resin or bees wax, I made one with white powder gold, magnetite, my blood and tree resin.

According to Demeo bees wax is the best insulating material for Orgone accumulation.
 

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I think the layered and Epoxy free versions are more effective, if you really want to use resin maybe consider a tree resin or bees wax, I made one with white powder gold, magnetite, my blood and tree resin.

Yummy. What did you do with that?

According to Demeo bees wax is the best insulating material for Orgone accumulation.

you mean for the organic layers in an orgone accumulator?
 

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Yeah or in an Orgonite which are the Magnetite epoxy cones, Orgone accumulators are hollow capacitors and work best when built like that.
Meow kettles might be more like subtle magnetism? I think they are closely related.

What did you do with that?
Idk I have a collection of crystals and rocks its somewhere in there :)
 

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Found this spectrometer might be worth it for the low price.

I've been playing around with my Radiacode did a sulfur burn on some John Hudson sulfide Orme and did not detect any radiation @ghetto alchemist what is the recipe that you suspect might release radiation I could give it a shot.

I found some radioactive rocks and can identify what kind of energy is released, it can also pick up on "electrons" like from high voltage devices my Ozone tube released like 300k cpm.
I had a dream that I imbibed something and it started reading 15 cps, I think its possible that some matters in the lab could become slightly radioactive but probably way way below anything dangerous.

 

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Found this spectrometer might be worth it for the low price.
Unfortunatelly, according to the guy in the video, it resolves down to 340nm.
 
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Oh it's not broad enough?
That sucks.
 

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I've been playing around with my Radiacode did a sulfur burn on some John Hudson sulfide Orme and did not detect any radiation @ghetto alchemist what is the recipe that you suspect might release radiation I could give it a shot.
A high heat sulfur burn on a strong HIM containing reaction should definately do the trick.
See the quote below for what I ran with.
@high heat -> HIM water + Sulfur + black iron oxide + quartz powder = something very bad (aka DOR/strange radiation)
I'm not sure why you'd ever want to deliberately induce this kind of strange radiation reaction, but if you're having trouble initiating it, then perhaps you need to find another source of water akin to that limestone water you used to use.
Unfortunatelly, according to the guy in the video, it resolves down to 340nm.
Even though 340nm is quite a bit removed from the peak of 280-290nm, it might still be low enough to detect the edge of the absorbtion curve.
And failing that, 340nm+ is certainly in the target range for detecting that flourescence effect which DeMeo also described.
So while it's not ideal, not necessarily useless either.
 

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Even though 340nm is quite a bit removed from the peak of 280-290nm, it might still be low enough to detect the edge of the absorbtion curve.
It can detect but it has much lower sensitivity. Well, I guess if it is cheap enough Lakshmana has nothing to lose trying it.

And failing that, 340nm+ is certainly in the target range for detecting that flourescence effect which DeMeo also described.
Have you observed this fluorescence effect? I think it is not so easy to observe.

So while it's not ideal, not necessarily useless either.
It is a very usefull instrument to have in any case.
 

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I think I'll try again with ocean water + spring water lye precipitate and or Azomite lye burn precipitate + sulfur.
The John Hudson powder is already in sulfide form maybe this is a problem.
I will also use spring water that comes out of a lava tube, it has some calcium/limestone salts in it too.
As for why I would want to induce this DOR effect is just to prove that it indeed releases gamma/beta or some other high energy "particle"
Traditional geiger counters are 20x slower than these modern cesium iodine crystals It picks up high energy signatures coming from the sky and shows it as a peak at a certain energy.
 

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regular drinking straw. any tube shape will suffice.
Brother @microwatt are you still with us?
I bought the parts to build your arduino strain meter quite a while ago, but finally got around to crimping up the cables to put it all together.
Now I'm at the stage to put the sensor inside the tube....if you're still with us, can you please advise how to secure the bottom of the sensor and what exactly to join it to?
Also, did you build one yourself yet?
 

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Ghetto I am surprised to see I am on the same path as you, It is strange and rewarding to know other's have a mind open enough to consider alternative routes. I have always had a fascination with limestone. One of my sources claims that all the old roman and historic monoliths and sculpture's are actually carpentry, made from wood, infused with limestone water. After a few years soaking become a petrified wood. I thought he was a lunatic. Well I still think DB is a lunatic, but now after some contemplation perhaps he is correct. I have to restart my experiment of soaking different woods in lime. This source claims different wood yields a different finished product, gemstones, diamonds, metals, etc... Who knows?!?! I had a bucket of mahogany and pine checkerboard pieces in a lime infused water for about 6 months before I needed the bucket. I will have to put the bucket out of sight out of mind.

G do you think if I added a lime source, like dolomite, or slacked lime, or hydrated lime, to a rain water, we could mimic the effect of a spring water from a lime stone source?
 

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Ghetto I am surprised to see I am on the same path as you
I’m also consistently surprised to find questions I’m pondering, or avenues I’m exploring, get answered on the forums by other members who are coincidentally working on the same things.
It’s as Mahavira one described (quoting Ram Das) that “we’re all leading each other home”.
It is strange and rewarding to know other's have a mind open enough to consider alternative routes.
My end goal has always been a full understanding of this stuff by the general populace.
Because of that, IMO no stone should be left unturned, and ironically it’s all the same cause behind all the miracles.
So it turned out that it’s just one route anyway.
G do you think if I added a lime source, like dolomite, or slacked lime, or hydrated lime, to a rain water, we could mimic the effect of a spring water from a lime stone source?
I honestly don’t know. Maybe yes, but probably no.
The spring water which is really good, might be sitting in contact with limestone for millions of years.
That’s a bit hard to replicate in the lab.
The ormus from limestone process (when performed by John Hudson) made a very powerful HIM medicine after dissolving limestone in HCl acid, but even that process required washing with spring water as a crucial step.
My feeling is that if you want to see the miracles, then the easiest and best way is to go and find some of this water.

Some people have accidentally discovered that some store bought distilled water has the magic stuff inside, so perhaps you might try that avenue if there’s no suitable springs nearby.
 

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I recently came across an awesome book, which is basically a scientists journey of trying to understand the bizarre effects of studying water which produces an EZ zone adjacent to a boundary layer from a hydrophillic substance [see HERE for a brief overview].

The title is "The Fourth Phase of Water: Beyond Solid, Liquid, and Vapor" by Gerald Pollack, and I'm hereby officially putting as book number 4 on Ghetto's essential reading list for all wannaba alchemists in the 21st century.
[The other books are "The Platinum Canon Shipwreck", "The Hermetic Museum", and "The secret book of Artephius"].
There's a link HERE to buy off amazon, or a free link HERE for all you skinflints.

It's a fascinating read, and so I don't want to spoil it too much...but on page 96 the author talks about shining UV light through the EZ zone, and the resulting absorbtion curve is the exact same one produced by HIM containing spring water after being 'charged' in an orgone accumulator or MEOW device.
Which IMO means 2 things:
> Pollack was using distilled spring water in his experiments, but for some reason failed to mention this.
> The EZ zone is simply the HIM component of the water in a concentrated form.

I'm reminded of the time 17 years ago when Triune-one released videos of his experiments conducting electrolysis on spring water, and then released it to everyone to share in his journey of wonderment.
Anyway, the book has left my head spinning.
I've always wanted to know of a fast, easy and food-safe way of extracting the HIM portion from spring water.
[there's always been the options of ether extraction and fractional freezing, but food-grade ether doesn't exist and fractional freezing requires both time and empty freezer capacity which most people simply don't have].

Well, now there's a new option.... just place a layer of hydrophillic substance in the bottom of a HIM water vessel, and then slowly pull off the top bulk water by physically sucking it away or slowly evaporating it off.
You could even use the freezer method, but combine it with the EZ water effect to get the best of both worlds, because the EZ layer will be the last part to freeze.

In the book Pollack describes using nafion film to generate the EZ layer, which is very difficult to acquire, and expensive, even if you can get it [and probably not food-grade either].
But I asked AI which substances work and it said:
  • Hydrophilic Surfaces:
    Surfaces that attract water molecules, such as cellulose, hemicellulose, and lignin (found in plant xylem cell walls).

  • Fats:
    Healthy fats like ghee, coconut oil, lard, organic clarified butter, and 'Brain Octane®' oil have been shown to promote EZ water formation.

  • Nafion:
    A material with oxygen atoms in its molecular structure that forms a template for the EZ water honeycomb.

  • Plant Xylem:
    The water-conducting tissue in plants, particularly the xylem vessels, is a potential site for EZ water formation.
This is great news because we can reproduce the effect using substances such as ghee or coconut oil which are both food-grade and easy to acquire.
Coconut oil even has the advantage of turning to liquid at low warmth, so you can melt it and pour it into any shape you want.

Anyway, just putting it out there. Obviously it resonates with me, which means it'll probably be the same for some of you out there.
Enough said.
 
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"ghetto style" absorption meter:

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Unfortunately finding proper UV source isn't that easy. Most UV leds around are out of the region of expected peak absorption and the arduino sensor is not sensitive enough.
It is almost 2 years since this first attempt to make a basic UV absorption meter. Well, after 2 years there is a working prototype at last! It required: A real UV-C disinfection lamp. Protective all-around casing. Two arduino UV sensors for differential measurement in order to countermeasure the luminosity drift of the UV lamp. Automation for loading and unloading the water in the crucible without looking at it (you can't just shut off the lamp between measurements because the thermal shock causes large luminosity variations).

Of course, it pales in comparison with a normal UV spectrometer. But it can easily detect for example chlorine in the tap water. So it seems to be working.
 
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It is almost 2 years since this first attempt to make a basic UV absorption meter. Well, after 2 years there is a working prototype at last! It required: A real UV-C disinfection lamp. Protective all-around casing. Two arduino UV sensors for differential measurement in order to countermeasure the luminosity drift of the UV lamp. Automation for loading and unloading the water in the crucible without looking at it (you can't just shut off the lamp between measurements because the thermal shock causes large luminosity variations).

Of course, it pales in comparison with a normal UV spectrometer. But it can easily detect for example chlorine in the tap water. So it seems to be working.
Nice work.
Can you give links to the bulb and sensor that you've used?
I can't wait to hear what results you get from your proposed testing regimen.
 

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Nice work.
Thanks.
Can you give links to the bulb and sensor that you've used?


I can't wait to hear what results you get from your proposed testing regimen.
Some quick testing shows absorbances at the range of 9-10% compared to untreated water! Which I almost can't believe. I'm still reluctant to "officially" confirm the observation before doing more tests.
 
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