HIM Water

[black]

black you are plain wrong. see this page https://web.archive.org/web/20110716060220/http://www.rexresearch.com/kervran/kervran.htm
The biological activity creates SM.

Hi microwatt

Could you please copy and paste the parts from these 138 pages that specifically make mention of Biofilm, yeast or alcohol (Ethanol) containing or creating SM (Spiritus Mundi).

I have flicked through it and can not find any reference to SM (Spiritus Mundi).

"black you are plain wrong" ...... Please explain why you would say this microwatt.

microwatt can you tell me what you think SM (Spiritus Mundi) is ?

 

[Pilgrim]

Cyliani

"My power is such that I animate everything: I am the astral spirit, I give life to everything that breathes and vegetates"

Yeast is a living organism which replicates, reproduces, takes in oxygen and produces carbon dioxide. Humans do likewise though yeasts are obviously a far simpler organism than a human so for example do not have lungs.

We can fast forward this debate to its obvious inevitable conclusion which is that Black will change his statement from one of:

"yeast . . does not contain SM (Spiritus Mundi)" to

"there is only a tiny amount of SM in yeast which is of no practical use to the alchemist".

 

[microwatt]

Hi microwatt

Could you please copy and paste the parts from these 138 pages that specifically make mention of Biofilm, yeast or alcohol (Ethanol) containing or creating SM (Spiritus Mundi).

I have flicked through it and can not find any reference to SM (Spiritus Mundi).

"black you are plain wrong" ...... Please explain why you would say this microwatt.

microwatt can you tell me what you think SM (Spiritus Mundi) is ?

There is no mention of SM in that book by kervan. I was simply pointing out that his experiment with chickens being fed a calcium poor diet but a silicon rich one. The silicon was being transmuted into calcium for shells by the mechanisms inside the chicken. my post was poorly thought out and being presumtous that the AF forum reader wouldn't have understood that biological processes create spirit energy. SM was the only way that the silicon could have been transmuted into calcium for egg shells.
I would like out that agricola in his treatise on gold states this

am certain that raw metals, without prior preparation, help little or nothing at all. Our natural warmth is far too weak to be able to cook and prepare the metals in such a way that they can penetrate to the heart through the small veins and finally throughout the body, imparting their effect. Even so, some are convinced that metals are supposed to have been eaten and digested by chickens, just as Pliny wrote in his time that if a hen were fed with gold leaf, it would transform the gold into an essence in its stomach. And thus, if it were eaten, the chicken would bring man great strength and health. Some also believed that in our time and wrote wonders about it, how gold veins are supposed to have shown up in the chicken livers, which is ridiculous. I am surprised that it did not also lay golden eggs, like Aesop's hen! Then they would have become mighty rich people in a short time, especially if they had bred as many chickens as in Egypt, where they are hatched in a specially arranged oven, and 20,000 creep out all at once. They could have laid many eggs, thus producing several million gold for a poor man. Let anyone who wishes believe this, but experience has taught me differently. I have tried it at different times and very carefully attended to the chickens. But after several days of feeding the chickens with gold leaf, I found nothing but --- salve honore --- gilt muck. I had therefore spent my money very badly.

For somebody to believe that you can feed gold to a animal and poop out a stone they must have understood that biological processes create a weak PH mercury and what better animal than a chicken carried mercurius.

 

[black]

Cyliani

"My power is such that I animate everything: I am the astral spirit, I give life to everything that breathes and vegetates"

Yeast is a living organism which replicates, reproduces, takes in oxygen and produces carbon dioxide. Humans do likewise though yeasts are obviously a far simpler organism than a human so for example do not have lungs.

We can fast forward this debate to its obvious inevitable conclusion which is that Black will change his statement from one of:

"yeast . . does not contain SM (Spiritus Mundi)" to

"there is only a tiny amount of SM in yeast which is of no practical use to the alchemist".

Because of the lack of Understanding the Alchemic students imagination will jump to all sorts of ridiculous conclusions from day to day.

I will repeat emphatically that "yeast . . does not contain SM (Spiritus Mundi)"


Emphatically = without doubt; clearly.

 

[black]

There is no mention of SM in that book by kervan.

Absolutely correct microwatt.

I was simply pointing out that his experiment with chickens being fed a calcium poor diet but a silicon rich one. The silicon was being transmuted into calcium for shells by the mechanisms inside the chicken. my post was poorly thought out and being presumtous that the AF forum reader wouldn't have understood that biological processes create spirit energy.

I have posted in the past that Alchemy is not the only way to Transmute metals ....But Alchemy is the only way via the "Pure" Spiritus Mundi to arrive at the Philosophers Stone.

SM was the only way that the silicon could have been transmuted into calcium for egg shells.

Not correct microwatt

I would like out that agricola in his treatise on gold states this

am certain that raw metals, without prior preparation, help little or nothing at all. Our natural warmth is far too weak to be able to cook and prepare the metals in such a way that they can penetrate to the heart through the small veins and finally throughout the body, imparting their effect. Even so, some are convinced that metals are supposed to have been eaten and digested by chickens, just as Pliny wrote in his time that if a hen were fed with gold leaf, it would transform the gold into an essence in its stomach. And thus, if it were eaten, the chicken would bring man great strength and health. Some also believed that in our time and wrote wonders about it, how gold veins are supposed to have shown up in the chicken livers, which is ridiculous. I am surprised that it did not also lay golden eggs, like Aesop's hen! Then they would have become mighty rich people in a short time, especially if they had bred as many chickens as in Egypt, where they are hatched in a specially arranged oven, and 20,000 creep out all at once. They could have laid many eggs, thus producing several million gold for a poor man. Let anyone who wishes believe this, but experience has taught me differently. I have tried it at different times and very carefully attended to the chickens. But after several days of feeding the chickens with gold leaf, I found nothing but --- salve honore --- gilt muck. I had therefore spent my money very badly.

For somebody to believe that you can feed gold to a animal and poop out a stone they must have understood that biological processes create a weak PH mercury and what better animal than a chicken carried mercurius.

I feel that you need to read Agricola many more times ... to understand what he is telling you !!!!!

microwatt:
The biological activity creates SM.

Your assumption here is not correct microwatt .... I can only suggest that you learn the difference between "Pure" Spiritus Mundi and Quintessence.

You will find Quintessence in biological activity .... e.g. in a living material.

 

[Pilgrim]

I will repeat emphatically

Yes you have a terrible habit of doing this. What you need to do, to be taken seriously, to have any minute shred of credibility, to start getting people to listen to you, is provide proof and evidence for the things you state.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Actually I can’t measure it....at least not yet.
But I can tell you the mechanism that allows me to make that statement.

People who’ve put HIM water inside these shielded containers and then drink it, report having their dental cavities self repair.
But drinking the same water without placing it inside a shielded container does not produce that result.

Finally got a breakthrough.
It turns out that this amazing contamination in the water that heals dental cavities CAN BE MEASURED, and this has been possible for quite some time.
I just didn't know is all.

The way to measure is to shine a UV light through a sample of water and take a spectrometer reading to detect UV absorbtion of the water.
Ground water which has been 'charged' in a MEOW kettle or an orgone accumulator has a distint pattern of UV absorbtion AND it also has a distinct pattern of flourescence after absorbtion (giving off a distinctive blue color).

See Vinny Pintos evidence HERE and James DeMeo's evidence HERE for more information.

 

[Lakshmana]

Yep also temperature probes inside accumulator or control box.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

One more interesting thing came out of DeMeo's research....
I've already said many times that IMO the best HIM water is limestone ground water, collected immediately at the exit point from the earth.
This is the kind of water Pinto was using, but DeMeo didn't specify his source.
However DeMeo did say that he was able to get similar spectrometer results from other water sources too:
> Vigourous rain from storms originating over Pacific Ocean and moving to West coast of USA
> Snow if it's collected as ice and then melted in the collection container
> Water collected from the zone which excludes small particles in EZ water.
> aqueous solutions of nucleic acid and DNA

 

[Lakshmana]

Rainwater had a similar spectrum to Orgone charged water.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Rainwater had a similar spectrum to Orgone charged water.

Yes, that's exactly my point.
But he did specify it has be vigorous stormy rain water, not just any old rain water.

Also, I'm not sure that any water will produce this effect after "orgone charging".
DeMeo never specified his water source, but I'll bet you dollars for donuts that he was using spring water or well water.

 

[Lakshmana]

I collected fresh fluffy snow once on a bed sheet hanging in the air so it won't touch the ground, I swear the whole sheet started emitting blue which confused the hell out of me.
This energy fades quickly, the advantage of an Orgone accumulator is having a continuous flow, regular heat will keep it from stagnating and it will go trough an evolution where it eventually turns into a red salt even from the most volatile salt-less fractions.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

I collected fresh fluffy snow once on a bed sheet hanging in the air so it won't touch the ground, I swear the whole sheet started emitting blue which confused the hell out of me.
This energy fades quickly,

Sounds like a pretty solid verification.

it will go trough an evolution where it eventually turns into a red salt even from the most volatile salt-less fractions.

You should definately document this a bit more.
Write it up properly, provide some pics if possible.
You know...properly put it out in the world and stick your name to it....because as far as I'm aware, you're the first to discover this AND the only person who's ever seen it.

I'm still enthralled by your discovery of a low temperature boiling flask after adding sodium carbonate.
But you reached a point where you never wanted to talk about it anymore, which I always thought was a shame.

BTW...just curious to ask....do you own a spectrometer by any chance?

 

[nav2010]

The storm water is lightning storm water in which several million volts have been passed through the water vapour instantly turning it to O3.

 

[Lakshmana]

The radiacode has an impressive spectrum its been on my shopping list along with a UV spectrometer for a while.

as far as I'm aware, you're the first to discover this AND the only person who's ever seen it.

Not so, this is how "quintessence" is generated and why Andro is correct when saying that it is not extracted.

The Golden chain of homer is all about how the alkali attracts the acid and the acid the volatile and visa versa.

The volatile is hungry for earth so it gets it from anywhere it can, the classic combine earth and spirit and incubate them together results in the volatile sucking out the luminaries sol and luna from the earth and eventually recombining to GENERATE quintessence the fifth element energy manifest in a correct envelope or battery or geometric structure, it creates a toroidal field a pulsating aura which acts similarly to an Orgone accumulator or other Aether condensers.

Recreations, Old natural path its all the same.

Orgone experiments with distilled water and very lengthy "charging" in an accumulator also made precipitates, earths. (white)

How can an earth just appear in a sterile deionized solution which is completely sealed.

Everything springs out from the same universal field and all these people arguing over "pure sm" are IMO dealing with problems of comprehending how things work on a foundational level, since obviously "pure sm" is chaos and immaterial, it steps down into matter gradually and has many expressions mainly earth and volatile for simplicities sake, the earth is "sm" in a very dense and dormant state, the volatile is also "sm" with lots of "agency" it would be able to "wake up" the sleeping earth, like in the first picture of mutus liber with the ladder and trumpet.
"Sm" could attach itself to pretty much anything like, water, acids, solvents (ether, ethanol, hydrocarbons) as we know salts are very good at holding on to it, and salts which start carrying volatilize as dendrites clear needles etc.
A liquid which contains volatilized salts would start qualifying as an alkahest, a solution which has larger battery storage to hold on to agency.

I would kind of think of it like particle accelerators shooting energy to make new elements, this is a dumb way to brute force agency.
Alchemists burn with water clean efficient.

low temperature boiling flask after adding sodium carbonate.

Yeah took me a while to remember what you are talking about, that was pretty strange, why would it boil at like 40c and boil even more when cooled with water. wtf?
Been two years, many things have changed.
I miss the ice cold limestone well water coming from the taps
And to be fair there are many advantages to where im now too, like springs, sunlight, sea water, cloud water, special clays etc.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

The Golden chain of homer is all about how the alkali attracts the acid and the acid the volatile and visa versa.

The volatile is hungry for earth so it gets it from anywhere it can, the classic combine earth and spirit and incubate them together results in the volatile sucking out the luminaries sol and luna from the earth and eventually recombining to GENERATE quintessence the fifth element energy manifest in a correct envelope or battery or geometric structure, it creates a toroidal field a pulsating aura which acts similarly to an Orgone accumulator or other Aether condensers.

It's a bit difficult to understand exactly what this means, but if that's the most you're willing to share, then thanks. I'll take it.

How can an earth just appear in a sterile deionized solution which is completely sealed.

That is the million dollar question.

Yeah took me a while to remember what you are talking about, that was pretty strange, why would it boil at like 40c and boil even more when cooled with water. wtf?
Been two years, many things have changed.

Yep, that's the one.
I still can't get my head around it.
My notes have it that you made colloidal silver, were distilling it trying to make lots of strings in the receiver.
A brown substance was left behind, so you added water and sodium carbonate to clean it, and as you said it started boiling at 40 degrees celcius.

I have it that this occurred 1-2 days before full moon.
Not sure if had an influence, but since the moon usually has such a strong effect on this stuff, I'm guessing that it might have.

I miss the ice cold limestone well water coming from the taps

I'll bet you do.
And for anyone else...please take note of this rather important fact.

 

[theFool]

Orgone experiments with distilled water and very lengthy "charging" in an accumulator also made precipitates, earths. (white)

How can an earth just appear in a sterile deionized solution which is completely sealed.

That is quite an observation ...

Why you favor the explanation of "it" being created inside the sealed flask of water instead of "it" attracted from the surrounding atmosphere, passing through the walls of the flask and then joining the water?

 

[Lakshmana]

Yes something like that its not "atmosphere" since the atmosphere cant penetrate the flask, maybe the condensed energy field gradually joins with the water and starts creating "new earth".

Would that constitute hard proof that matter comes from the universal field?
Probably not to a scientist because they would be too scared to ruin their reputation to even read the paper.

 

[REL]

Finally got a breakthrough.
It turns out that this amazing contamination in the water that heals dental cavities CAN BE MEASURED, and this has been possible for quite some time.
I just didn't know is all.

The way to measure is to shine a UV light through a sample of water and take a spectrometer reading to detect UV absorbtion of the water.
Ground water which has been 'charged' in a MEOW kettle or an orgone accumulator has a distint pattern of UV absorbtion AND it also has a distinct pattern of flourescence after absorbtion (giving off a distinctive blue color).

See Vinny Pintos evidence HERE and James DeMeo's evidence HERE for more information.

Hmm, so the EZ Water phenomenon (hexagonally ordered liquid crystal via radiant energy + hydrophilic surface) produces an absorption peak right where it’s interesting.

With that in mind, infrared light at 1200nm is said to speed up the reaction.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

maybe the condensed energy field gradually joins with the water and starts creating "new earth".

That is basically the same as what I suspect is going on.
I'd only word it slightly differently by saying:
IMO the magnetic shield for some unclear reason is condensing solar neutrinos causing them to manifest (aka what I usually call HIM particles) and they in turn induce nuclear transmutation reactions.
The caveat is that it seems that you need to have some of these condensed neutrinos inside the magnetic shield in the first place, in order to manifest more of them.
Eg: HIM particles manifest more HIM particles when they're placed inside a magnetic shield.
[IMO this is why we only see the effect on certain kinds of water]

I know it all sounds pretty crazy, but that's exactly what this stuff is.

A good test would be to weigh your starting solution before putting it in the box, and then weigh whatever stuff comes out and see if you've still got conservation of mass.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

infrared light at 1200nm is said to speed up the reaction.

Ahh that's right. yes it does.
One more piece of physical evidence to drop the rabbit hole even further.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

DeMeo never specified his water source, but I'll bet you dollars for donuts that he was using spring water or well water.

Hahaha... exactly like a broken clock, Ghetto accidentally tells it right once in a while.

This document originally provided by @theFool says DeMeo was using:

uncontaminated water from a deep mountain well fed by snowmelt

 

[ghetto alchemist]

OK, so it's now official,
I finally have a way to measure HIM content of water.
For me, this finally proves it's existence, and also enables a way forward in absolutely knowing which waters are better than others.

The solution is to measure UV absorption of around 190nm using a spectrophotometer (this was actually discovered by James DeMeo).
These machines can be quite expensive, so true to my moniker, I got mine the cheapest way I could by buying 2 old damaged units which were liquidated by a major Australian university.
From the 2 units, I was able to make one which works perfectly, with a few spare parts to boot.

Before I ended up settling on my own solution however, I was leaning towards DIYing one.
IMO it would still be possible to ghetto one by using a cheap UV bulb or UV LED shine through a quartz cubette and detect with a sensor attached to an arduino.
You can also buy a very basic brand new spectrophotometer which can work in UV such as the 752N (still quite expensive though).

Anyway, I finally took my first set of measurements @190nm:
> fluoridated tap water from the faucet (for a baseline control) = -0.001 ABS
> spring water stored 10 days in sealed glass bottle = 0.027 ABS
> spring water stored 10 days in sealed glass bottle in a MEOW kettle = 0.038 ABS

* The spring water was collected from a pool where it was exposed to sunlight.
I have good reason (due to Vinny Pinto's results) to believe that the UV absorption of HIM water is zero if it hasn't previously been exposed to sunlight.
To test this, after measuring I placed both my spring water samples in winter sunlight for 40 mins and re-measured, and on both samples the ABS increased by ~0.010 ABS

What does this mean...
> my limestone spring water absorbs UV light, unlike fluoridated tap water. (as expected)
> the UV absorption effect increases after storage in a MEOW device. (as expected)
> the UV absorption effect increases after exposure to sunlight. (not necessarily expected)

 

[REL]

Nice work GA.

Some messing with UV might find this little fellow useful: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1668336015...er62qpcs-c&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Found when looking for a way towards a ghetto quartz cuvette.

Working at fitting it with NPT ports for the two largest ends. Will be surrounding the tube with UV illumination, and pumping O3 infused steam through it.

 

[Mahavira]

Congratulations my friend ! This is a beautiful achievement indeed.
And I believe it will have many interesting implications...