HIM Water

[Awani]

In the end, I guess it doesn't even really matter (that much). Nature makes Calx & Lime by means of Water, so the Source is the same, ultimately. Also recall the highly revealing painting of "The Birth of Venus"...

Kabbalah's Ein Sof, the alchemical origin matter, Gnosticism's Pleroma, and Hinduism's Brahman all symbolize a shared, infinite origin. Shamanism echoes this belief, positing a spiritual essence common to all existence. Mirroring this, blockchain technology, exemplified by Bitcoin, operates on a distributed ledger where all transactions spring from an original digital source. These examples underscore a universal ethos of interconnectedness -- all originating from a single source.

However...

1. Light: It looks like one single beam, but it can split into a spectrum of colors.
2. Water: It appears as one body, but it can divide into droplets.
3. Time: It seems continuous, but it's divided into years, months, days, hours, minutes, and seconds.

[and so on with 50 more examples]

Source: AI

 

[Pilgrim]

Immediately, the scripture came to mind from Psalm 118:22-23, “The stone which the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; the LORD had done this, and it is marvelous in our eyes.” This stone was left and carved around because it was literally rejected by ancient builders. And this was the very stone upon which Jesus was crucified. Should we then be surprised to see in three of the four Gospels, that Jesus directly quotes Psalm 118 and refers to Himself as the Cornerstone in the parable of the rejected son (Matthew 21:42, Mark 12:10, Luke 20:17)?

1 Peter 2 6-8 KJV

"6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed."

Seems a stark warning. Basically suggests the Stone is given rather than discovered/earned. If you believe and are not disobedient then you are not "confounded" and get the Stone. If not you get the "duff" Stone.

 

[Pilgrim]

From the Quran:

Surah An-Naml (The Ants)

60. Is not He (better than your gods) Who created the heavens and the earth,
and sends down for you water (rain) from the sky, whereby We cause to grow
wonderful gardens full of beauty and delight? It is not in your ability to
cause the growth of their trees.

61. Is not He (better than your gods) Who has made the earth as a fixed abode,
and has placed rivers in its midst, and has placed firm mountains therein, and
has set a barrier between the two seas (of salt and sweet water).

Doesn't that latter passage scream mountain caves with rivers, stalactites etc?

 

[Lakshmana]

So if you want to keep the HIM portion in your flask, then IMO it's best to avoid all electric heating options and stick with gas or alcohol burners.

When making a fixed salt, candle/gas heating at low temperature while desiccating works for me.

 

[Andro]

From "Hermetic Recreations":

'Everything is water' derives from the principle: the Universe and all it contains comes from the Waters.

Water is a composition of various principles. If it was not, it could not undergo fermentation or putrefaction.

Water fermented, putrefied and desiccated forms a Silt that can be called Dry Water.

This Silt, this Dry Water, is the Clay from which the Colossus of the world was formed.

[.........]

It often passes to the Lime or Chalk state, but imperfectly, it retains more or less the greater part of its initial form.

 

[Triune One]

In the end, I guess it doesn't even really matter (that much). Nature makes Calx & Lime by means of Water, so the Source is the same, ultimately. Also recall the highly revealing painting of "The Birth of Venus":

The composition is the same. I agree that it probably makes very little difference, unless we consider the kingdoms and specificities.
The shells and coral of the sea are made by animals. Animalia --- This *may* result in an end product that is more "absorbable" by the human organism. I think if we do attain the Universal stone, this probably means very little. But it is still a consideration.

 

[Andro]

The composition is the same.

Not exactly the same, if we compare the Universal with the Kingdom-specific Earths. And even so, different Waters will give slightly different Earths. Some will be more like Lime, others will be more like a Slime. Some will be more like Gypsum, others will be more like Silica or Talc. But I don't think it matters that much, ultimately. The various Earths I've worked with so far all gave very similar outcomes. But I won't deny that some are "better" than others. And I personally see the Birth of Venus as an allegory representing our Matter being born out of the Water (and also Air, notice the Winds).

 

[Triune One]

Not exactly the same, if we compare the Universal with the Kingdom-specific Earths. And even so, different Waters will give slightly different Earths. Some will be more like Lime, others will be more like a Slime. Some will be more like Gypsum, others will be more like Silica or Talc. But I don't think it matters that much, ultimately. The various Earths I've worked with so far all gave very similar outcomes. But I won't deny that some are "better" than others. And I personally see the Birth of Venus as an allegory representing our Matter being born out of the Water (and also Air, notice the Winds).

Nice.
And being born out of the air is symbolic of the fact that the "wind carries it in its belly..."
Even subterranean matters can be considered to be, primarily, born out of the air.
It's representative of where the "matter" originates from.
N'est-ce pas?

 

[Blacksmith]

Water fermented, putrefied and desiccated forms a Silt that can be called Dry Water.

This Silt, this Dry Water, is the Clay from which the Colossus of the world was formed.

[.........]

It often passes to the Lime or Chalk state, but imperfectly, it retains more or less the greater part of its initial form.

I had a dream some time ago (I think I posted it here on the forum) in which an old man told me that to make blood I needed dry water, it seems that Lakshmana accomplished this by making his blood

 

[black]

I had a dream some time ago (I think I posted it here on the forum) in which an old man told me that to make blood I needed dry water, it seems that Lakshmana accomplished this by making his blood

Hi Blacksmith

The dry water is the Water of Alchemy .... the water that wets not the hand, "Pure" SM (Spiritus Mundi), Our Mercury, Secret Solvent, Alkahest, etc.

This is all the same Substance under many different names that is required to perform the Alchemic Process.

There are those that make Alchemy appear to be as complicated as rocket science but Alchemy is really very simple.

All that is needed is this substance that is known by many names .... "Pure" SM (Spiritus Mundi), Our Mercury, Secret Solvent, Alkahest, etc, etc.

With this substance a Universal Quintessence can be extracted from any of the Three Realms .... Mineral / Metallic, Animal or the Plant.

Just as a reminder for all those that don't know and for all those that have forgotten ..... No "Pure" SM (Spiritus Mundi) = No Alchemy

I'm very interested in Lakshmanas Process as it does not fit with traditional Alchemy as passed down to us from the Master Adepts of this Great Work.

When the Alchemist has the "Red Blood" it has already passed the Test by Fire and is Fixed ........
IT (the "Red Blood") is the Universal Quintessence.

This is why I am so interested in how or why Lakshmana will Fix his "Red Blood" into a Universal Quintessence.

 

[elixirmixer]

I love you Andro.

@Triune One
I don't like the connection with the seashell-animal thing.

I feel the best way to look at this is like......

Think about the shell. What is a shell? What does it do? Where do you find it? What are all the products it can make?

It's the Fibonacci spiral of life propegating through the aether. That's why it's so important. That's why it's the "source".

If you want to think like God, you need to think in spirals, fractals, shells.

What is a shell? Is it not a container? What does it contain?

If you asked a child, they might put that shell to their ear, and tell you that it contains the entire ocean. The Sea 😉

 

[Triune One]

I love you Andro.

@Triune One
I don't like the connection with the seashell-animal thing.

I feel the best way to look at this is like......

Think about the shell. What is a shell? What does it do? Where do you find it? What are all the products it can make?

It's the Fibonacci spiral of life propegating through the aether. That's why it's so important. That's why it's the "source".

If you want to think like God, you need to think in spirals, fractals, shells.

What is a shell? Is it not a container? What does it contain?

If you asked a child, they might put that shell to their ear, and tell you that it contains the entire ocean. The Sea 😉

I hear you.
It's beautiful. So so beautiful.

I am a homeopath so I do see the "vectors" behind things as being relevant.

This matter is also universal and is ever present in all kingdoms.
So it doesn't matter that much as has been spoken

even this guy's house -

 

[Triune One]

As above, so below