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Like David Hudson's hydrogen, changing the alkali (WPG) into redness...

I was just talking about Joe cells and HHO irl when you posted :)
 

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the guy is distilling using browns gas he says... i did not understand the what goes where in his setup, but i get a
general idea that he is capturing the vapours by condensation.
Thanks anu.
Funny because I was recently asking how it might be possible to condense HHO flame into water, and there is the answer provided by yourself.
For anyone else who's interested, there's a live stream from the same guy HERE showing how to build one of these.
It's not clear in the first video, but the T-junction connects to an aquarium air pump that's out of the shot.
Apparently you need to pump a small amount of air into the flame zone to keep it from going out.

This setup produces something called New Water which is said to have some pretty amazing properties.
George Wiseman claims that if you shine sunlight through a mineral solution into a jar of New Water, the New Water somehow manifests a sludge containing those exact minerals. Spooky.
It reminds me of the discovery by Alexander Shpilman that torsion waves passing through a substance into water will cause the water to exhibit the same properties of that substance.
In the case of New Water, it seems that the water actually becomes the substance.
 

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A simple but important question:
What vessels do you guys use for storing your products of distillation specifically when working with water or plants?
I have used glass bottles with corks, flasks with ground stoppers, mason jars ...

I'm asking because I have a limited amount of flasks and wonder if using mason jars is okay or perhaps old wine bottles with either a cork or screw cap with the inset seal.? Are lab flasks with appropriate stopper a must for storage between say eagles? I do think the most volatile portion needs a container with a glass stopper and possibly even beeswax as well.
 

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Get a regular glass bottle with a screw cap wrap the threads with PTFE teflon tape which you can get in any hardware store in the plumbing section for 99c a roll, and if the screw cap is made of metal put food grade plastic wrap on the opening and screw it tight.

Teflon sealed threads are good for incubation of volatile nothing escapes.

I also have a high pressure borosilicate vessel with a PTFE screw cap which is awesome for increasing heat gradually.
 

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I have had some filtered thunderstorm water (with hail) from approx. 1/2 month ago sitting in a 3L wine jug, open to the air fermenting for about 6 weeks. Its down to approx 2.5L in volume from evaporation and I am beginning this process of 7x distillations, putting aside the first 1/4 each time. Also saving the last bit.

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I have a 1L boiling flask in which I poured 800ml of putrefied t-storm water. Sitting in a sand-bath for more even heat distribution.

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This is my distillation apparatus; I unfortunately broke one of the ends off of my Liebig condenser so my air cooled unit will have to do. It generally works quite well for water so long as the receiver is cooled.

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Here is a picture of the starting material, the putrefied and quite cloudy yet clear, no sediment holding thunderstorm water. It was filter prior to bottling and was pristine. The Erlenmeyer flask has some material stuck on the inside that I have been unable to remove; I am only using it for measuring and not for receiving distillate.

The plan is to put aside the first 200ml that comes over and mark it "volatile" or "fire".

Once the next 500ml comes over I will put it aside for the next distillation and marked "water or middle" and turn the heat off.
Whatever is left in the flask will be removed and put aside and marked as "fixed"
I will repeat this process until I have my wine jug emptied.

Then I will take all of the "volatiles" in my estimation about 600ml worth and distill with a fractionating column once again keep the first 1/4

I will take all of the middle waters, in my estimation about 1.5L and simply distill putting aside the first 1/4 again. (should this 1/4 be added to the volatile portion? I don't think so, for simplicity I think I will be discarding it.)
I will turn off the heat on each distillation at around 100ml left and keep the fixed portion.
Anyways you get the point. It is going to take a while.
I won't be doing anything with the bottom or least volatile until the middle portion has been cycled 7x.
Not sure how far I will go rectifying the volatile portion as its sort of an aside to this experiment.

Essentially I am going to follow the JF instructions while playing with the volatile fraction on the side.

I think I would like to post a picture of the "volatile" "Middle" and "fixed" at the end of each complete series of eagles.
 

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Hi folks

Just regarding the issue of EMF's, are we not all now surrounded by them due to the Smart Grids everywhere and all the associated masts? If so don't we have to construct a lab/environment which is a Faraday Cage?
 

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Just regarding the issue of EMF's, are we not all now surrounded by them due to the Smart Grids everywhere and all the associated masts?
It's a good question to ask, but ultimately it depends where you live.
I never think nor worry about this stuff, but that's probably because I live in a wonderful environment, surrounded by natural beauty and serenity.
However, if you live right next to a place like JFK airport, or under HV power lines, then you'll be getting smoothered in EMF's.
IMO that's not just an issue for alchemy but also for one for general health and wellbeing.

Anyway, for anyone who's in a high EMF environment and wanting to delve into alchemy type stuff, this is potentially a big issue.
There was an ormus conference call which covered this very topic, link HERE for anyone who's interested.
There was some amazing stuff revealed in that call, Eg:
> Seekverta's red gold solution made with HV was an incredibly powerful substance
> A person who consumed it gave a report that besides helping her yoga and meditation it caused her to have out-of-body experiences.
> This same person was storing a bag containing seekvertas substances in a high EMF environment
> The immediate physical space around the substances became toxic, several otherwise healthy people who entered that space experienced negative effects including heart troubles and difficulty breathing.
> The toxic nature of the physical space endured even after the substances were removed from the high EMF environment.
> Also nearby objects were tainted with the same toxic energy in that physically touching them would cause an unpleasant feeling.
It's because of testimonies like this that I say to keep HIM substances away from EMF.
If so don't we have to construct a lab/environment which is a Faraday Cage?
Do we even know that putting a strong HIM substance inside a faraday cage prevents the negative effects from occurring?
IMO it'd be a much better choice to simply relocate to a quieter environment.
 

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It is not well water and it's not dew either.

And yes my well is dug into limestone and is 70 meters deep thank you for asking ᕙ⁠(͡⁠°⁠‿⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)⁠ᕗ


I did like 35 before but it was not a good enough source water. I found a better water. And it's not urine either. But all waters are good, because everything comes from water.
Right so oxidies limestone, just like my thread said, way back when. I'm glad you all are taking credit for others work.

Fucking foul cunts.
Fuck you all.
 

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Right so oxidies limestone, just like my thread said
I'm not using limestone for anything atm.
Why resort to cursing :(

We are just sharing whatever we have been researching.
 

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In wisdom's realm, where calcite's secret lies,
A philosopher named Kibrick cries,
"Fair Lakshmana, thou tak'st credit untrue,
For mine own toil, the truths I did construe."

With furrowed brows and intellect ablaze,
Kibrick argues for his rightful praise,
"Through nights of contemplation, I did glean,
The nature of calcite, once unseen."

"But hark," quoth Lakshmana, resolute,
"I too did delve, in calcite's pursuit,
My trials and insights, none can deny,
To claim a share, 'tis fair and right to try."

The scholars spar, their words like daggers keen,
In halls of learning, honor's fight is seen,
As calcite's tale unfolds through debate's art,
A battle fierce for knowledge's true heart.

*Human brilliance was channeled through a language model during the making of this poem done in the style of Shakespeare.*
 

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I'm not using limestone for anything atm.
Why resort to cursing :(

We are just sharing whatever we have been researching.
" This illustration is headed quanxue shui --
spring-cave water; however the corresponding
entry in the text refers to ruxue shui, i.e water
from a limestone cave with stalactites
(shizhongru).
The illustration shows a spring gushing from a
cave containing stalactites.
The water is being collected
by a man who holds a bowl in his
left hand and a scoop in his right hand.
The text states: Stalactite-cave water is
heavier than other kinds of water.
When it is boiled, salt particles appear on
the surface. Stalactite-cave water is
sweet in sapor and non-poisonous.
Drinking stalactite-cave water can
make one sturdy and healthy and help
preserve a handsome youthful appearance.
It has similar medicinal properties to
human milk [Translator's note: the


so the water is red why?
is it the calcite?
gee yes it is.

but continue using others sources and works and pass it off as your own research.


Thank you Andro for reminding me how fickle you all are
 

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In wisdom's realm, where calcite's secret lies,
A philosopher named Kibrick cries,
"Fair Lakshmana, thou tak'st credit untrue,
For mine own toil, the truths I did construe."

With furrowed brows and intellect ablaze,
Kibrick argues for his rightful praise,
"Through nights of contemplation, I did glean,
The nature of calcite, once unseen."

"But hark," quoth Lakshmana, resolute,
"I too did delve, in calcite's pursuit,
My trials and insights, none can deny,
To claim a share, 'tis fair and right to try."

The scholars spar, their words like daggers keen,
In halls of learning, honor's fight is seen,
As calcite's tale unfolds through debate's art,
A battle fierce for knowledge's true heart.

*Human brilliance was channeled through a language model during the making of this poem done in the style of Shakespeare.*
Mock all you want. None of you give sources like I did, its all your own work is it?
 

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Mock all you want. None of you give sources like I did, its all your own work is it?
Actually yes, I did not read your calcite posts.
I stumbled upon it and it's not cave water.

Although cave water would probably work :unsure:
 

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All around there is evidence of quarried limestone that clearly were used as building blocks in Old Jerusalem. The red color is oxidized limestone where water has discolored the white rock and made it not worthy as building material.

Immediately, the scripture came to mind from Psalm 118:22-23, “The stone which the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; the LORD had done this, and it is marvelous in our eyes.” This stone was left and carved around because it was literally rejected by ancient builders. And this was the very stone upon which Jesus was crucified. Should we then be surprised to see in three of the four Gospels, that Jesus directly quotes Psalm 118 and refers to Himself as the Cornerstone in the parable of the rejected son (Matthew 21:42, Mark 12:10, Luke 20:17)?
 

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Actually yes, I did not read your calcite posts.
I stumbled upon it and it's not cave water.

Although cave water would probably work :unsure:
Ok then, find out what chemical is making it red. Its calcite.
 

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Thank you Andro for reminding me how fickle you all are.
All I've reminded you of are this forum's Rules & Guidelines. You don't just go ahead and curse people in this community. Express your grievances all you want, as long as you don't break this forum's rules. That's it.
 

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I disagree with this the red material can be obtained from completely mineral void waters as well.

Red calcite comes from iron contamination.
 

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I'm not mocking. I'm enjoying.
Which thread is it Kibric where you discuss these ideas? I have written about calcite quiet a bit too which I gained realisations about through significant medication and my lab work. I'm interested to hear your take on it Kibric
 

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Red material? So you dont know its chemical composition do you?

Mineral void waters? So Paracelus kicking limestone means nothing

And you have a red water from clear water with no minerals in? No liquid crystal?

Not from a limestone well, right?
 

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No, not from a limestone well.

I think you guys are confused of the difference between central salt and calcite which calcite and all sources contain.
 

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Naming various calcium compounds as an alchemical starting matter may be a bit of a mindfuck from the alchemical authors, IMO.

Some naturally occurring and even subsequently distilled Waters (or "Builders") will, upon their putrefaction, precipitate (or "reject") an Earth (or a "Stone") that does, in many ways, resemble a rather fixed calcium compound. No need to mine elsewhere, not really... It's all (already) in the Waters. IMO & IME.

But this doesn't mean we can't also use naturally available calcium compounds. For example, one of the followers of Cyliani (Gerbant) explicitly mentions Gypsum.

"And this was the very stone upon which Jesus was crucified."
Or the Earth upon which its own Spirit is fixed.

"Jesus [...] refers to Himself as the Cornerstone."
So we see here that "Jesus" is BOTH the one getting crucified AND the stone upon which he is crucified. Both are of the same "matter". I would even venture to allude to one of the more obvious places where fishermen go fishing...

Anyway, just putrefy some water and see what happens...
 

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In wisdom's realm, where calcite's secret lies,
A philosopher named Kibrick cries,
"Fair Lakshmana, thou tak'st credit untrue,
For mine own toil, the truths I did construe."

With furrowed brows and intellect ablaze,
Kibrick argues for his rightful praise,
"Through nights of contemplation, I did glean,
The nature of calcite, once unseen."

"But hark," quoth Lakshmana, resolute,
"I too did delve, in calcite's pursuit,
My trials and insights, none can deny,
To claim a share, 'tis fair and right to try."

The scholars spar, their words like daggers keen,
In halls of learning, honor's fight is seen,
As calcite's tale unfolds through debate's art,
A battle fierce for knowledge's true heart.

*Human brilliance was channeled through a language model during the making of this poem done in the style of Shakespeare.*

AI poetry?
That was awesome Elixirmixer.
I sensed you were just bringing levity and not mocking.

And Kibric, I know what it feels like to want to "possess" the truth and feel like you are being discredited for your find and your knowledge. But if you look around wide enough, some of these wise men have found the truth you also found... independently.
Ghettoalchemist posted about it independently when he shared a past life vision he had. And then he was blown away someone (you, Kibric) was so openly sharing.
Elixirmixer has been on it for a while now.
Lakshmana is on another page, with definite commonalities.

The ancients left many riddles and puzzles to solve that lead to the matter you are wanting to make your own.

I, myself, after years and years of thinking I was closing in on the matter, finally found it, had many tears of joy
and relief and thanks to God, then I thought I would check the forums to see if there was anyone discussing it
and I found you, Kibric, Ghetto's and Elixirmixer's posts about it. I, too, was blown away and edified in my own finding.
You see? Many of the paths lead to the matter you so generously shared. And I am very grateful you DID share.

It's not yours. It's God's. It's nature's. It's all of ours.
If you hold on too tight, it'll burn you, as it seems to be doing.
When I want to possess truth and secrets and knowledge, it leaves a dark residue in my energy field - Luciferan and / or Ahrimanic parasitic invitations here.
Thinking brotherly love helps a lot.

Andro: Naming various calcium compounds as an alchemical starting matter may be a bit of a mindfuck from the alchemical authors, IMO.

and then there's that. lol...
 

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and then there's that. lol...
In the end, I guess it doesn't even really matter (that much). Nature makes Calx & Lime by means of Water, so the Source is the same, ultimately. Also recall the highly revealing painting of "The Birth of Venus":

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