. Golden Chain Of Homer - Third Part English

[Schmuldvich]

Finally!!!

Dear alchemist friends!

I am pleased to announce that the project "The Golden Chain of Homer - Third Part" is complete. After a few months of hard work and dedication, allied to the efforts of another great friend in the alchemical community, Moreh Derek, I present to you all the work ready.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07H2LT5RX?ref=aw_sitb_digital-text

I would like to present the main characteristics of the work and what news our friends readers will find. The work has a Preface showing some details in the accomplishment of the project; then a brief Introduction that analyzes
the historical and literary context of the work as well as why the treatise is unique and has relevance within the alchemical community.

Finally, the book presents a concise investigation on the theory of authorship of Anton Joseph Kirchweger, both for the two previous treatises and for this one. The book presents documents, reports and unpublished evidence for the alchemical community, all with the purpose of analyzing the veracity of the described theory.

In addition, the book presents the following Pathways to the reader:

- The Long Wet Way of the ancients Masters.

- The Short Way of Paracelsus upon Red.

- The Short Way upon White.

- The Mixed Way according to Philalethes.

- The Way of Vitriol according to Basil Valentine.

- The Way of the Poor according to Fulcanelli, Sendivogius and others.​

Besides these main characteristics, the work also presents doctrines, theories and explanations to the alchemical symbols, some of which remained without explanation until the present day. If this work was read in connection with Cyliani, Recreations and Naturweg, many of the mysteries contained in these works can be clarified by reading the former. The reading of this work will revolutionize the way we read "Aurea Catena Homeri" and will reveal to us some facets about the works that we never imagined existed.

My thanks to all the friends who supported this project.

I find myself at everyone's disposal for any information.

Good reading to all!
Via Veritatis
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[Seraphim]

Schmuldvich sorry I am not familiar what does the third part contain?

 

[Schmuldvich]

Schmuldvich sorry I am not familiar what does the third part contain?

The entire preface is worth buying the book just for reading that alone; it is full of historical information and shows that the editor did ample research before releasing this book.

It is a full Alchemy text on its own.

This excerpt is only a small portion of the Introduction which shows how thorough the editor is; the entire Introduction (much longer than this excerpt) is a highly informative read!

 

[Florius Frammel]

I read a very well researched paper (in german), where they concluded that the author of at least the first two parts was Josef Anton Kirchweger.

Do they mention him in the intro too and if yes, what role does he play in those newer researches by the inner gardeners?

 

[Schmuldvich]

I read a very well researched paper (in german), where they concluded that the author of at least the first two parts was Josef Anton Kirchweger.

Do they mention him in the intro too and if yes, what role does he play in those newer researches by the inner gardeners?

Yeah, they humbly say that they are well aware that their concluded findings go against what has been believed for over a hundred years, and back up their stance with proof; it is all very well laid out.

I would love to hear your stance after reading the presented discourse.

 

[Illen A. Cluf]

Dear alchemist friends!

I am pleased to announce that the project "The Golden Chain of Homer - Third Part" is complete. ​

Are there any plans to publish this in book form? I always find it difficult to read many pages of electronic text.​

 

[Schmuldvich]

Are there any plans to publish this in book form? I always find it difficult to read many pages of electronic text.

You'd have to ask VV: http://alchemyprocesses.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=398&start=10

 

[alfr]

aurea chain homeri same edition of published by ed sesheta

Our dear friends of the sesheta editions
they have published an one translation of this very importanre explanatory and very precious same version of the aurea chain homeri complete in the 3 parts and commented by the rc but unfortunately it is in French however this and the link where to find this very important book

http://www.sesheta-publications.com/rose-croix/chaine-d-or-d-homere.html

regard
...................................................

aurea catena homeri stessa versione della edizione è pubblicata dalle ed sesheta

i Nostri cari amici delle ed sesheta
hanno pubblicato una traduzione identica di questa molto importanre esplicativa e molto preziosa e uguale versione del della aurea catena homeri completa nella vesione uguale di tutte le 3 parti e commentata dai rc e pubblicata dalle ed sesheta in francese ,purtroppo, comunque qusto e il link dove trovare questo molto importante testo

regards

 

[Chrysa Lead]

This version of Sesheta editions is the one I have at home.
After that they published "L’Expérience de NAXAGORÆ" which is an help to understand the 3rd part of the aurea catena homeri.

http://www.sesheta-publications.com/rose-croix/experience-de-naxagorae.html

Regards

 

[Chrysa Lead]

Finally!!!

I am pleased to announce that the project "The Golden Chain of Homer - Third Part" is complete. After a few months of hard work and dedication, allied to the efforts of another great friend in the alchemical community, Moreh Derek, I present to you all the work ready.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07H2LT5RX?ref=aw_sitb_digital-text

Shared !

 

[Awani]

Mod post

You'd have to ask VV: http://alchemyprocesses.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=398&start=10

Please avoid links that require someone to register.

Shared !

Please avoid one word posts. Especially when you are only 10 posts in.

 

[Via Veritatis]

I read a very well researched paper (in german), where they concluded that the author of at least the first two parts was Josef Anton Kirchweger.

Do they mention him in the intro too and if yes, what role does he play in those newer researches by the inner gardeners?

Hi Florius Frammel!

Yes, you may have read the celebrated book by Herman Kopp titled "Aurea Catena Homeri" published in 1880. It is a fabulous book in itself.

When I began to search for the Introduction of the "The Golden Chain of Hmer - Third Book," I began to find evidence prior to the year of publication of "Aurea Catena Homeri" in 1723 that attested to the existence of the manuscript for some decades. This struck me as intriguing, for it would require Anton Joseph Kirchweger to have lived at least in the first half of the 17th century.

Corroborating this thesis, Ludwig Favrat, in his translation of "Aurea Catena Homeri" into Latin in 1762, stated that the author indeed lived in the 17th century, revealing that the author could not be someone who would have died only 16 years ago, in the case of Kirchweger, who died in 1746.

So I decided to find Kirchweger's birth record and his civil movements. Dates and events did not match the evidence. But there was Herman Kopp's book expressly stating that he had been the author of the book. So I decided to check the evidence that had brought him to that conclusion. To summarize, the two evidences he had to corroborate this had been corrupted by the Rosicrucian influence that wished at all costs that the author of these works be a Rosicrucian member, even if it meant falsely attributing (Schmidt's case) and forging a book in name of Kirchweger (case of "Microscopium Basilii Valentini").

In any case, the evidence, the contradictions, the arguments to the contrary to this thesis are found in the book. I intend to extend this research in the future in order to shed more light on the true author of the works. In conclusion, there is no shadow of a doubt, according to my search, that Kirchweger is the wrong author of "Aurea Catena Homeri". On the other hand, the chances of the anonym author of "The Golden Chain of Hmer - Third Book" having been the author of the two previous works are much greater than those of any other.

Research and future discoveries will confirm this in part or in whole.

 

[Via Veritatis]

aurea chain homeri same edition of published by ed sesheta

Our dear friends of the sesheta editions
they have published an one translation of this very importanre explanatory and very precious same version of the aurea chain homeri complete in the 3 parts and commented by the rc but unfortunately it is in French however this and the link where to find this very important book

http://www.sesheta-publications.com/rose-croix/chaine-d-or-d-homere.html

regard
...................................................

aurea catena homeri stessa versione della edizione è pubblicata dalle ed sesheta

i Nostri cari amici delle ed sesheta
hanno pubblicato una traduzione identica di questa molto importanre esplicativa e molto preziosa e uguale versione del della aurea catena homeri completa nella vesione uguale di tutte le 3 parti e commentata dai rc e pubblicata dalle ed sesheta in francese ,purtroppo, comunque qusto e il link dove trovare questo molto importante testo

regards

Hi Alfr and Chrysa Lead!

Yes it's true. Nevertheless, with all respect to Sesheta Publication, the Introduction of this edition is still superficial, in the sense of crediting the authorship of the two previous works and this one to Anton Joseph Kirchweger.

Please read "The Golden Chain of Homer - Third Book" in order to see the evidence, the contradictions, the arguments to the contrary to this thesis.

 

[Via Veritatis]

Thank you Schmuldvich for presenting some of the book's most remarkable features.

 

[Florius Frammel]

VV,
yes it was this work by Kopp I found quite convincing.

I don't really understand the problem with Kirchweger living in the 17th century.

Why do you think he must have lived in the first half? I don't see a necessity here.

Have you been at the civil office in Gmünd in Austria? That's probably the only place in the world where there is a chance to find reliable data on him.

Sorry if you explain all this in your book, I must admit, I haven't read it.

 

[Via Veritatis]

Hi Florius!

Yes, the book is quite convincing. I read it too, and found it phenomenal. But as he said in the previous post, the evidence on which he based his theory was influenced by the Rosicrucian Society, which before he wrote this treatise in 1880, had already done all they could to make "Aurea Catena Homeri" as a Rosicrucian masterpiece. And to this end, they falsely attributed authorship and forged a book to corroborate this false attribution.

This forged or corrupted evidence eventually fell into the hands of Kopp, who considered them legitimate, and thus founded his thesis that Anton Joseph Kirchweger was the legitimate author of the works.

Concerning Kirchweger's need to have lived in the 17th century, the collected evidence shows that the work had appeared between 1640 and 1650. All the evidence for this conclusion is found in the "Introduction" of this book. Thus, Kirchweger would have to have been born in the first half of century 17 to be a probable author for these works. The problem is that Kirchweger was born in the second half of the 17th century, in 1672 to be more exact, and died before the middle of the 18th century in 1746. There is a time gap that makes it impossible for Kirchweger to be the author of the works.

Because of the distance, I could not visit the Imperial archives of Austria personally, where much of Kirchweger's civilian life may be registered. It is for this reason that I intend to expand my studies to demonstrate the impossibility of Kirchweger being the real author of the works. However, there are many online documents that I have accessed and which are, although not covering every event of his life, sure enough to corroborate what I stated in the "Introduction" of the book.

Many of these documents are reviewed in the book. Others are waiting longer for further research.

 

[Illen A. Cluf]

I am just readigng the Golden Chain of Homer, Book 3, and came to an important realization, based on another important book that I'm coincidentally just happening to be translating, that, based on my understanding, has never been translated before. I hope that it will be published within the next few months, at which time I will provide more information.

This book that I'm translating provides some key clues on who the author of the Golden Chain might be, which exactly matched some of the description mentioned by Via Veritas in his Appendix.

As such, it greatly elevates the importance of the author of the Golden Chain as a true adept.

 

[Andro]

I am just reading the Golden Chain of Homer, Book 3, and came to an important realization, based on another important book that I'm coincidentally just happening to be translating, that, based on my understanding, has never been translated before. I hope that it will be published within the next few months, at which time I will provide more information.

This book that I'm translating provides some key clues on who the author of the Golden Chain might be, which exactly matched some of the description mentioned by Via Veritas in his Appendix.

As such, it greatly elevates the importance of the author of the Golden Chain as a true adept.

Mr. Valentine comes to mind... he's been apparently out and about for quite some time

 

[Illen A. Cluf]

Mr. Valentine comes to mind... he's been apparently out and about for quite some time

He supposedly died in 1450, which is far too early, but what you're suggesting is that he continued to live for at least a couple more centuries?

 

[Andro]

He supposedly died in 1450, which is far too early, but what you're suggesting is that he continued to live for at least a couple more centuries?

It's not impossible that he may have lived quite a bit longer than a "normal" lifespan.

I believe Canseliet even claimed that Herr Valentine initiated Fulcanelli, although, even if true, this can also occur in the OOB or lucid dream sate.

The fixation on Marcasites is quite prevalent in some German lineages.

 

[Illen A. Cluf]

The fixation on Marcasites is quite prevalent in some German lineages.

Yes, but what I understood from the Golden Chain is that this is more than common marcasite - made step-by-step out of an acid vitriol (again not common vitriol), alium, sulphur, and arsenic.

 

[Andro]

Yes, but what I understood from the Golden Chain is that this is more than common marcasite - made step-by-step out of an acid vitriol (again not common vitriol), alium, sulphur, and arsenic.

Von Bernus was also into this. Have you ever specifically/explicitly encountered this in any non-German lineages?

I'll read the third book again, but I personally don't see how it holds up to the level of the first two. IMO.

Also, I believe the text refers to a "vitriol" made from this matter, not the other way around. Iron Sulfides exposed to atmospheric air will render a more or less dilute sulfuric acid.

From Part 3 of the Golden Chain:

"Now, there are many mines in which this sediment is excavated and in this
same place is found a stone coal of this abortive kind, and it also contains our
secret matter. Also, in many places they are discarded in the shafts while in
others, they are gathered and left in the air so that they can disintegrate, and
then it is boiled with water into vitriol and alum in the cottages."

 

[Andro]

Illen, how would you interpret this interesting paragraph from the 3rd Part of Golden Chain? Especially as the text itself is otherwise full of "sophisticated" processes and recipes?

Hence, they invent all sorts of particular and sophisticated processes, and wish to produce gold and silver outside the matter, when in fact they should seek it within themselves and take it from there. Their understanding can only go to the teaching that they were created as body and soul, for they wish an exceptional Christian life, grandiose, orderly and full of concepts, in this way they wish to supper and drink the new man within themselves, when in fact the new man should come out of them. Therefore they say together with Nicodemus: How can a man enter again into his mother’s womb and be born a second time? But I assure you that without this true inversion from the inside out, nothing true can be found and obtained, neither in the light of grace, nor in nature. We may delimit everything externally and decorate it with a methodical, orderly arrangement, as much as we please, yet nothing can come from outside and all must come from within. For as all evil comes from within, so also the good must be extracted from within.

On account of this we wish to see where we may find our despised matter.

 

[Illen A. Cluf]

Von Bernus was also into this. Have you ever specifically/explicitly encountered this in any non-German lineages?

No, it seems to be specifically realted to this treatise and the Thirteen Secret Letters, alhtough Fulcanelli may have referred to it.

I'll read the third book again, but I personally don't see how it holds up to the level of the first two. IMO.

I'm still reading the Third Part, but I highly doubt that it was written by the same author as the first two parts. In the first two parts, the author was all into alkali, spirit and acid. He repeats it again and again and again througout those first two parts. Then in the third part, he doesn't mention these at all. Also in the third poart he keeps using the expression "my son" which he doesn't use in the first two parts. In addition, the way he explains things is quite different. And also in the first part he keeps saying "Someone may argue that..." or something similar. He doesn't use that expression in the third part at all. No, I think the third part was written by a Rosicrucian who faked the year it was written, since the year is inconsistent with the reported transmutation event in 1666 by Helvetius, which occurred years after it was written.

Also, I believe the text refers to a "vitriol" made from this matter, not the other way around. Iron Sulfides exposed to atmospheric air will render a more or less dilute sulfuric acid.

From Part 3 of the Golden Chain:

The part I was referring to was:

I do not know why writers hit on liquid mercury made from metals, or demand mercury from minerals and metals so eagerly since no liquid mercury is ever found in any ores (except solely ore of mercury) but acid vitriol, alium, sulphur, arsenic, marcasite, out of which metals grow and consist step-by-step, and not out of liquid mercury, as has been mentioned above.

Here he is explaining how metals proceed to develop in Nature through the successive stages (acid vitrio, alium, etc) rather than from a liquid mercury as so many alchemists explain.

 

[Andro]

I highly doubt that it was written by the same author as the first two parts.

I share this view.

In the first two parts, the author was all into alkali, spirit and acid. He repeats it again and again and again throughout those first two parts. Then in the third part, he doesn't mention these at all. Also in the third port he keeps using the expression "my son" which he doesn't use in the first two parts. In addition, the way he explains things is quite different. And also in the first part he keeps saying "Someone may argue that..." or something similar. He doesn't use that expression in the third part at all. No, I think the third part was written by a Rosicrucian who faked the year it was written, since the year is inconsistent with the reported transmutation event in 1666 by Helvetius, which occurred years after it was written.

Perhaps this "3rd Part" is a not-so-uncommon Rosicrucian attempt at "damage control" (by complicating things under the guise of "plainly described processes"), given that the two first parts were so very revealing.