Fulcanelli - Oak...

[LeoRetilus]

THE FOURTH PARABLE
Mentioning which SENIOR speaks thus: "The Spirit
dissolves the body, and in the Dissolution extracts the Soul
of the Body, and changes this body into Soul; and the Soul is
changed into the Spirit, and the Spirit is again added to the Body,
for thus it has stability." Here then the body becomes spiritual by
force of the Spirit. This the Philosophers give to understand in
the following Signature, or Figure: They saw a man black like a
negro sticking fast in a black, dirty and foul smelling slime or
clay; to his assistance came a young women, beautiful in
countenance, and still more so in body, most handsomely
adorned with many-coloured dresses, and she had wings on her
back, the feathers of which were equal to those of the very finest
white Peacock, and the quills were adorned with fine pearls,
while the feathers reflected like golden mirrors. On her head
she had a crown of pure gold, and on top of it a silver star;
around her neck she wore a necklace of fine Gold, with the
most precious Ruby, which no king would be able to pay; her feet
were clad with golden shoes, and from her was emanating the
most splendid perfume, surpassing all aromas. She clothed
the man with a purple robe, lifted him up to his brightest clearness,
and took him with herself to Heaven." Therefore says
SENIOR: " It is a living thing, which no more dies, but when used
gives an eternal increase."
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Come and listen to my story bout a man named Jed
Poor mountaineer barely kept his family fed
Then one day he was shooting at some food
And up through the ground came a bubbling crude
Oil that is black gold Texas tea

 

[Andro]

Not to beat a dead horse or anything Andro but, I know this is your favorite document so I'm going to post something from it.

Although I quoted it a few times, I never said publicly that this is my favorite document. And I also have more than one favorite document, by the way

Other than the Emerald Tablet and myself, I actually have three other favorite documents which are in highest agreement with my own Artistic Orientation.
And even if those favorite documents of mine speak of different matters, they are nevertheless in complete agreement with me and with each other

What say you of spittle now?
How about the spittle of RA(God)(The Sun)?

There is another Sun inside me which has its own Spittle. The Micro Sun of Man.

Now dew will serve no purpose if not collected during the spring and summer months when that which dies during the winter and frozen in the ground begins to thaw and rot and the astral spirit which was once coarsing through said organisms is released into the air.

Agreed!

That's why it's so important how the dew is collected.

Now, while we're still busy beating that dead horse - here's another dead horse I've been beating for a while myself:

The Universal Mercury/Matter is EVERYWHERE. It's up to every Artist to intercept it at his/hers point of convenience and agreement with how he/she intends to work.

Some paint with Water Colors. Some paint with Oil Colors.
Some sculpt in Stone, and others sculpt in Metal.
Some play brass instruments, and others play wooden instruments.
Some write pop songs, others write symphonies.
The list goes on...

If their Art is good, their Creations will contain and conduct the Spiritus Mundi just the same.

 

[LeoRetilus]

Ok ,....to each his own then, ...but don't say nobody never warned anybody and maybe you'll return to this thread one day when you've used up all your youth, and lost all your money, limb and health like I have,..... for me I think I'll beat the dead horse till he becomes a pap and then bury him in the ground till he rots and render his fat to a white gluten.

Adieu

 

[Andro]

Ok ,....to each his own then, ...but don't say nobody never warned anybody and maybe you'll return to this thread one day when you've used up all your youth, and lost all your money, limb and health like I have...

Luckily for me, the simplicity of my current Main Work is highly unlikely to present any danger to my money and health (and limb).

As for youth... There is youth other than chronological.

For me I think I'll beat the dead horse till he becomes a pap and then bury him in the ground till he rots and render his fat to a white gluten.

And just the same will I treat my own dead horse, of course

Adieu

Nothing dies forever... Not even dead horses

 

[Ajnavajra]

heh heh

The devil (Lucifer) made me do it!

Sprinkle a little vinegar and see what floats up.

 

[Ghislain]

for me I think I'll beat the dead horse till he becomes a pap and then bury him in the ground till he rots and render his fat to a white gluten.

Leo you'll go blind

Ghislain

 

[LeoRetilus]

LOL,.... I'm not the one playing with it, tell that to the guys who are.

If I did practice that "particular" path I'd have to jerk off till I did go blind to get enough.

Not that I don't have to practice the art every once in a while, after all I am married.

 

[LeoRetilus]

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"It is first matter in mineral state, as it comes out of the ore-bearing strata,
deeply buried under the rocky mass. It is, the texts tell us,
'a heavy, brittle, friable black substance, which has the appearance of
a stone, can shatter into minute fragments."-Fulcanelli, Mystery of the Cathedrals

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La Brea Lake [link broken]

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"What is the white substance that comes out of La Brea or is found on its surface. Why is it called the Mother of the Lake? Is it another part of the exchange system of the Pitch Lake that keeps it alive and active."


LAC VIRGINIS.... THATS WHAT

WOW.... what a powerful place even gravity is affected here. [link broken]

 

[LeoRetilus]

In reference to a certain materia out of which the philosphers make their mercury, in being a stone and no stone.
Pitch Resin

"Tar pitch is a viscoelastic polymer. This means that even though it seems to be solid at room temperature and can be shattered with a hard impact, it is actually fluid and will flow over time, but extremely slowly."

Production

The heating (dry distilling) of wood causes tar and pitch to drip away from the wood and leave behind charcoal.

This incidentally is also a method of producing acetic acid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetic_acid

By 1910 most glacial acetic acid was obtained from the "pyroligneous liquor" from distillation of wood. The acetic acid was isolated from this by treatment with milk of lime, and the resultant calcium acetate was then acidified with sulfuric acid to recover acetic acid. At that time Germany was producing 10,000 tons of glacial acetic acid, around 30% of which was used for the manufacture of indigo dye.[2][4]

The color Indigo my friends is the sky colored whelp, the offspring of the Corascene bitch and Armenian dog. Here lies very close to a great secret, the color of the union of philosophic sulfur with philosophic mercury.
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Isn't this odd? , It can be shattered by impact and yet flows like water, amazing!

 

[horticult]

Glass is also "frozen" liquid with the same qualities.

 

[Seth-Ra]

Glass is also "frozen" liquid with the same qualities.

"The secret lies with the glass makers", so ive heard.

 

[LeoRetilus]

Recently I bought some Shilajit, mineral pitch, it does indeed shatter like glass with a hard impact, yet if you work it slowly it molds like a wax especially upon heating.
When I purchased this from abroad I also purchased a kilogram of what was also supposed to be Shilajit except upon arrival it turned out to be ground root of The Styrax, gum benzoin, a very fatty looking powder, now follow this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tincture_of_benzoin

"Gum Benzoin is a fragrant resin which comes to us from the sunny meadows of Sumatra, and is redolent with odors of the Spice Islands, and the mysterious virtues of tropical balms. Its qualities are strange. Mix a little of it with fat, and the latter will not become rancid. Some of the tincture, combined with glycerine, is simply the best application in the world for chapped hands, and for those cracked nipples which afflict some women during nursing. But this apart. We speak of it now as a cosmetic. Two ounces of it to a pint of pure alcohol (free from acrid fusel oils and the like) make as fine an application as those can ask who wish a white spotless tint, and fragrant arome. Some of it may be used once or twice a day in the manner already mentioned.
About a tablespoonful should be poured into a small tumbler of water. It changes the water to a whitish fluid, which is known in France as lait virginal, virgin's milk, and is highly and justly esteemed. None of the cosmetic washed is more agreeable. Some glycerine can be added to the water if desired."[7]
Toilette of Rank and Fashion states:

"Virgin's Milk is compounded with tincture of Benzoin and Rose-water; it is prepared by simply adding a few drops of the former to an ounce or two of the latter, which produces a milky mixture. If the face be washed with this, it will give it a beautiful ivory color. Let it remain on the skin without wiping."[8]

 

[Seth-Ra]

Leo, i think youre on to something. Upon looking further into it, the resin comes from the styrax family of trees:

Styrax trees grow to 2-14 m tall, and have alternate, deciduous or evergreen simple ovate leaves 1-18 cm long and 2-10 cm broad.

Evergreen - like live oak, or pine trees. (see the pine cones. )

Also, this is a neat bit of info:

"[The Arabians] gather frankincense by burning that storax which Phoenicians carry to Hellas; they burn this and so get the frankincense; for the spice-bearing trees are guarded by small winged snakes of varied color, many around each tree; these are the snakes that attack Egypt. Nothing except the smoke of storax will drive them away from the trees."

(source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styrax )

Seems the object to make from the plant kingdom is coming together...



~Seth-Ra

 

[LeoRetilus]

"[The Arabians] gather frankincense by burning that storax which Phoenicians carry to Hellas; they burn this and so get the frankincense; for the spice-bearing trees are guarded by small winged snakes of varied color, many around each tree; these are the snakes that attack Egypt. Nothing except the smoke of storax will drive them away from the trees."


~Seth-Ra

Yes I read this too, but was going to wait to see if someone else recognized the significance, nice work!

 

[LeoRetilus]

Maria the Prophetess says:

"Take Alum from Spain, the White Gum, and the Red Gum, the Kibru of the Philosophers, their Gold, and the Great Tincture.

Make a marriage of the Gum with the Gum, by a true union;

Proceed therewith, that they may flow like water; this well prepared water Thou must vitrify, that is, thou must make a glass thereof.

This glass is composed of Two Subjects and a fixed body. Render this matter fusible by the secret operation of nature in the Philosophical Vessel.

Take care of the Fume, and beware, that nothing of the fume may escape! Attend the work, with a gentle fire, such as the Sun gives in July.

Be not absent from the Vessel, that thou mayst observe, how the matter becomes Black, White and Red, in less than 3 hours of a day, and the fume will penetrate the body, the Spirits will keep together and will become like Milk, which softens, and renders fusible and penetrating.

And this is the Secret, O Aros! "


So the secret IHMO is a pyroligneous acid extracted by the dry distillation of gums into an acetum dryed to crystals as a beginning. Just think about how long crystallized amber(tree sap) can hang around and the significance of fire opals, mineraloid gels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineraloid

Common mineraloids

Amber, non-crystalline structure
Jet, non-crystalline nature
Native mercury, non-solid
Obsidian, volcanic glass - non-crystalline structure
Opal, non-crystalline silicon dioxide
Petroleum, liquid
Pyrobitumen, non-homogeneous, non-crystalline structure
Vulcanite, vulcanized natural or synthetic rubber, thus not a mineral due lack of crystalline structure

All excellent choices for sodium burn candidates.

 

[LeoRetilus]

A Hollow Oak Scotch Still, Bottom Left

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[solomon levi]

I forgot this connection, but i think it is pretty well known.
Regulus (antimony-iron) is the heart of Leo (gold)

http://souledout.org/nightsky/regulusleo/regulusleo.html

It's interesting that regulus focusses the energy of sirius, the DOG star

 

[Andro]

Oak in french is chene.

And in Hebrew, 'seneh' means 'bush' (as in the 'burning bush' on the mountain) in the excellent alchemical allegory known as the bible.
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Also:

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Concerning this image, I would note the 14 trees that flank the side of the hollow oak. What this gives away is the timing of when certain elements appear. Fourteen days is often called a fortnight, and should give some clue as to when this element is found... no it won't be found fourteen days into the process, rather fourteen days after a certain sign appears.

Quoth Hollandus:

"You may extract the Mercury out of Saturn in 14 days."

 

[oxymoron]

A Hollow Oak Scotch Still, Bottom Left

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Hello Leo, I hope you're doing well. 😊

I noticed that here you tried to chronologically trace which was the first matter that seeped into the veins of the earth and, through the motions of rising and falling, matured into other metals (or didn’t if there were mistakes during the process). I was thinking the same and looking for a similar analogy. However, after all your interpretations, what do you think could be the most likely candidate? There are many good possibilities, but I see that the best and most well-documented paths all seem to lead towards cinnabar. However, I know that the fact that cinnabar is composed of HGS and that common mercury might not actually be the philosophical mercury. And although cinnabar checks many boxes—being generous and volatile—I don’t see any evidence of it being the precursor of other metals coming to life.

If you've made progress in identifying the initial candidate for the PM, please DM me, and we can discuss it further.

Thanks in advance,

 

[LeoRetilus]

Hello Leo, I hope you're doing well. 😊

I noticed that here you tried to chronologically trace which was the first matter that seeped into the veins of the earth and, through the motions of rising and falling, matured into other metals (or didn’t if there were mistakes during the process). I was thinking the same and looking for a similar analogy. However, after all your interpretations, what do you think could be the most likely candidate? There are many good possibilities, but I see that the best and most well-documented paths all seem to lead towards cinnabar. However, I know that the fact that cinnabar is composed of HGS and that common mercury might not actually be the philosophical mercury. And although cinnabar checks many boxes—being generous and volatile—I don’t see any evidence of it being the precursor of other metals coming to life.

If you've made progress in identifying the initial candidate for the PM, please DM me, and we can discuss it further.

Thanks in advance,

The Saturnian lead of the Wise is feces, allegorically speaking the Oak tree is symbolic of the mine of the wise of Saturn. From which is taken the clay of the wise which is the PM. The image like the scholia in Hermetic Recreations is directing you to place the matter in clay bowls/plates and or on the grass mat for the 14 nights around the full moon in the spring to absorb astral Spirit from the north, we sit our matter out in this way around every full moon in the spring and once again in the fall, this masonry of the wise takes a period of two years cuz to absorb enough SM and astral Spirit and to lock them in our clay/earth in the form of nitrate salts that will later be cleaned, re-crystalized and purified in the work of the eagles....

 

[oxymoron]

Thanks a lot for these resourceful insights, and thanks for the time you took to personally give me other paths to explore. The fact that I read that Cyliani illustrated in his words to a book that " was find behind a cupboard," which is known to be the title Récréations Hermétiques (in French), adds that this manuscript reveals the entire operational process, with the exception of matter, fire, and the labors of Hercules. It is also these three points which Cyliani, at the end of his preface, leaves the care of disclosing “to God alone.”

The assimilation of the "matrix of the world" (alchemical), with the clay "from which one makes the brick," is, if not a trap, at least an artifice of exposition typical of alchemical treatises. The late hermeticist René Buchère, who died in 1914, broke down this word by phonetic cabal as follows: argile or arguron hyle, in Greek, material of money, philosophical money, or moon of the philosophers.

According to the scholia, which are treatises paired to the Récréations Hermétiques, this also explains a good theory of why this clay represents the prima materia:

1. Everything was water from the beginning: the Universe and everything it contains came out of the Waters.

2. Water is a compound of various principles, if it were not, it would not experience fermentation or putrefaction.

3. Fermented, rotten, and dried up water forms a silt which can be called dry water.

4. This silt, this dry water, is the clay from which the Colossus of the world was formed.

5. Clay is an unctuous, gray, and heavy Earth from which Brick is made.

6. The alkalescence and not the grease forms its lubricity, and makes it soapy.

7. This is what makes it miscible with fatty substances, but not intimately: at the slightest heat, the fat separates.

8. Clay is therefore not formally an alkali; but it has a quality akin to its nature. It holds the intermediary.

9. It often passes to the state of chalk or lime, but imperfectly, it retains more or less its original form.

10. Yellow, red, green soils, etc. are of this nature, but with the addition of mineral tincture.

I will read it in French, as I believe translations often remove many of its allegoric meanings. Thanks again for the insights, and I hope to be on the right path.

Best regards,

 

[LeoRetilus]

Thanks a lot for these resourceful insights, and thanks for the time you took to personally give me other paths to explore. The fact that I read that Cyliani illustrated in his words to a book that " was find behind a cupboard," which is known to be the title Récréations Hermétiques (in French), adds that this manuscript reveals the entire operational process, with the exception of matter, fire, and the labors of Hercules. It is also these three points which Cyliani, at the end of his preface, leaves the care of disclosing “to God alone.”

The assimilation of the "matrix of the world" (alchemical), with the clay "from which one makes the brick," is, if not a trap, at least an artifice of exposition typical of alchemical treatises. The late hermeticist René Buchère, who died in 1914, broke down this word by phonetic cabal as follows: argile or arguron hyle, in Greek, material of money, philosophical money, or moon of the philosophers.

According to the scholia, which are treatises paired to the Récréations Hermétiques, this also explains a good theory of why this clay represents the prima materia:

1. Everything was water from the beginning: the Universe and everything it contains came out of the Waters.

2. Water is a compound of various principles, if it were not, it would not experience fermentation or putrefaction.

3. Fermented, rotten, and dried up water forms a silt which can be called dry water.

4. This silt, this dry water, is the clay from which the Colossus of the world was formed.

5. Clay is an unctuous, gray, and heavy Earth from which Brick is made.

6. The alkalescence and not the grease forms its lubricity, and makes it soapy.

7. This is what makes it miscible with fatty substances, but not intimately: at the slightest heat, the fat separates.

8. Clay is therefore not formally an alkali; but it has a quality akin to its nature. It holds the intermediary.

9. It often passes to the state of chalk or lime, but imperfectly, it retains more or less its original form.

10. Yellow, red, green soils, etc. are of this nature, but with the addition of mineral tincture.

I will read it in French, as I believe translations often remove many of its allegoric meanings. Thanks again for the insights, and I hope to be on the right path.

Best regards,

Read my thread The Phonetic Cabala, I used another method of solving and at this point, 5, to arrive at the same exact matter!!

 

[Illen A. Cluf]

According to the scholia, which are treatises paired to the Récréations Hermétiques, this also explains a good theory of why this clay represents the prima materia:


I will read it in French, as I believe translations often remove many of its allegoric meanings. Thanks again for the insights, and I hope to be on the right path.

I was one of those who carefully translated the book from French to English. Please let me know if you find any subtle allegories that may have been missed.

 

[oxymoron]

Read my thread The Phonetic Cabala, I used another method of solving and at this point, 5, to arrive at the same exact matter!!

After reading "Les Récréations Hermétiques avec leurs Scholies" in French, which is preserved in the manuscript collection of the Muséum d’Histoire Naturelle in Paris and first introduced by Bernard Husson friend of Eugène Canseliet, Fulcanelli’s most devoted pupil. The work has also been cited as one of the top two books by Cyliani for the Opus Magnum.

Through my analysis, I found Leo’s proposition plausible: feces may indeed be the Prima Materia.

1. While it remains challenging to determine whether the author was vague or speaking in allegorical terms, based on the style of his writing, it seems the author suggests that the Prima Materia originates from the Animal Realm.
This is because, when the author intends to divulge a fact, he is generally clear and direct in his expression.

English Translation: The Mercury, Sulfur, and Salt of alchemists are principles, and not mineral or metallic substances as they are usually known under these names; they resemble them by analogy. The raw material of the alchemical Work has been given all the names in relation to it through analogy: color; weight; appearance; properties; utility; uses, etc. But its identification cannot be very...

2. This is further supported by the citation from Bruno de Lansac in the book, which explicitly states that the Prima Materia is neither Mineral nor Vegetal, and in its Raw Form, it offers no Benefits.

English Translation: I will then give you the advice of the illustrious commentator of Lumière sortant des ténèbres, Mr. Bruno de Lansac: 'Choose,' he says, 'a material that has the metallic brilliance' [here again, Bernard Husson restores the exact quote from Bruno de Lansac: 'One must especially ensure that the metallic essence is not only potential but actual, and that there is a metallic splendor'], and I would add that it must be neither metal nor mineral, otherwise, it would be of no use. You will also understand that this brilliance is only the seal of the material and what reveals it to the eyes of the Sage, and beware of taking the fruit instead of the root; for not only is it unripe, but in the opposite hypothesis, it would only give you a wild sapling from which you would derive no benefit.

Other than that and from the text in the Scholies section of the images, we can extract the following key points that align with the idea of water being a reference to suc gastrique (gastric juice) and digestive processes, and clay to feces at the end of the oak tree process, thus supporting the hypothesis that the author is referring to this as a source of Prima Materia (PM):

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1st Scholium
Everything was water from the beginning: the Universe and everything it contains emerged from the Waters.

2nd Scholium
Water is composed of various principles; if this were not the case, it would not undergo fermentation or putrefaction.

3rd Scholium
Fermented, rotten, and dried Water forms a sludge that can be called Dry Water.
This Sludge, this Dry Water, is the clay from which the Colossus of the world was formed.

5th Scholium
Clay is a thick, gray, and heavy Earth from which Bricks are made.

6th Scholium
Alcalescence, and not fat, forms its thickness and makes it soapy.

7th Scholium
This is what makes it mixable with greasy bodies, but not intimately: at the slightest warmth, the fat separates.

8th Scholium
Clay is not formally an Alkali; but it has a quality close to its nature. It serves as an intermediary.

9th Scholium
It often changes into chalk or lime, but imperfectly, retaining more or less its original form.

10th Scholium
Yellow, red, green, and other soils are extracted from it.




The recurring metaphors of water, fermentation, and clay align with the processes in the stomach, suggesting that gastric juice (water) and the resulting feces (clay) could be viewed as representations of the Prima Materia (PM) in alchemical terms. Just as alchemists transform base materials into something greater, digestion transforms food into the building blocks of life.

 

[oxymoron]

I was one of those who carefully translated the book from French to English. Please let me know if you find any subtle allegories that may have been missed.

Hey Illen,

I’ll definitely keep you updated once I get a chance to read the English version. If there's anything, I’ll let you know.
In the meantime, if you come across something you want to double-check regarding the allegorical meanings in French, just DM me. I’ll be happy to give a hand.