Flat Earth & Alternative Space Models

[Andro]

I saw the curvature of the horizon myself on a flight from Guam to Japan.

According to leading autrollity Neil DeGrasse Tyson (stand-up comedian turned astrophysicist turned globe propaganda expert), it is impossible to see the curvature from 130,000 feet, let alone from 30,000 feet (typical flight altitude).

 

[Jimmy Rig]

I have been on a few commercial fights between 30-40,000 ft and never saw any curvature..

 

[Awani]

According to leading autrollity Neil DeGrasse Tyson

Even if we pretend everything he says is true it comes of off... kind of the type that would be banned around these parts.

 

[Andro]

Even if we pretend everything he says is true it comes of off... kind of the type that would be banned around these parts.

Indeed. Whether he is correct or not, he still acts like a troll

 

[Awani]

 

[Jahara]

Very interesting thread. I have a question for everyone here.

If we are in the beach and we see a ship going straight to the horizon we will see it "sinking" in the sea until it disappears. But if we use a telescope we will se it the whole ship again. Why this happens?

 

[Christophorus]

Very interesting thread. I have a question for everyone here.

If we are in the beach and we see a ship going straight to the horizon we will see it "sinking" in the sea until it disappears. But if we use a telescope we will se it the whole ship again. Why this happens?

If you use the telescope in the exact same place you saw it "sinking"... it will sink in about 6km, because you stand up... you need to triangulate the place you are standing with the height you are seeing, with the center of the planet and the object itself. If you climb to a huge stone you will see it going for the double or triple of space. And when your eyes can't see it anymore, a telescope will do the job, but after going to the limit, it will sink... A ship has a height too. The atmospheric refraction is not the same everywhere and it affects it.

see:

 

[Joseph Sekavec]

I don’t know if this is the right thread, but has anyone noticed how far mainstream science will go to get around ether? First “dark matter”, now “quantum foam” (pictured). It’s honestly kind of impressive how hard they try.

 

[Joseph Sekavec]

I don’t know if this is the right thread, but has anyone noticed how far mainstream science will go to get around ether? First “dark matter”, now “quantum foam” (pictured). It’s honestly kind of impressive how hard they try.

Well, I guess picture was too big…

 

[Andro]

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Well, I guess picture was too big…

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Thanks.

 

[Jahara]

If you use the telescope in the exact same place you saw it "sinking"... it will sink in about 6km, because you stand up... you need to triangulate the place you are standing with the height you are seeing, with the center of the planet and the object itself. If you climb to a huge stone you will see it going for the double or triple of space. And when your eyes can't see it anymore, a telescope will do the job, but after going to the limit, it will sink... A ship has a height too. The atmospheric refraction is not the same everywhere and it affects it.

see:

Thanks for this, yeah this makes a lot of sense and is what I believe also.

I have made this question because I've seen a documentary where the researchers proposed the Earth is convex. They made a lot of experiments to proof this, all of them are very interesting but that one which I asked you got my attention.

And this experiment wasn't in a beach, they made it in a lagoon (Lagoa dos Patos, largest coastal lagoon in South America), and they didn't just sail 6km, they sailed 40km. They also made another experiment with telescope in Lake Titicaca, they could get images beyond 100km which would be impossible, as the curvature would have a height of 237 meters.

Yeah I know, this is very weird.

 

[Andro]

when your eyes can't see it any more, a telescope will do the job, but after going to the limit, it will sink...

Until we bring in a stronger telescope. Then it will magically reappear. Like Nikon p-1000, the globe killer.

So either there is no curvature at all, OR the globe/planet is MUCH bigger than "science" is saying. I'm open to both possibilities.

 

[Christophorus]

Until we bring in a stronger telescope. Then it will magically reappear. Like Nikon p-1000, the globe killer.

True! Until 1)reaching his limit again, 2)"clashing" into the curvature 3)going straight passing it (tangent).

Here are 2 links for the curve and the flat models.
The pic-gaspard experiment has also some interesting info.

The atmospheric refraction is not the same everywhere and it affects it.

Not only everywhere. It changes all the time too and affects drastically the horizon as we can see here

So either there is no curvature at all, OR the globe/planet is MUCH bigger than "science" is saying. I'm open to both possibilities.

True! Personally, I'm open to everything too. I tend to agree with you about the size of the planet. It can be wrong!

 

[Andro]

It's easy to resort to mockery and memology and statements such as "the math" or "the science" or "the relevant authority". It's much more challenging to go measure yourself or just get a powerful telescopic lens and see how disappeared objects that we're not supposed to see on the horizon anymore "magically" reappear.

And maybe the hardest of them all is to just admit that we simply don't know or can't know.

Either way, this is all a very realistic appearing dream, and what we perceive with our senses can also be determined by our own programing and preconceived notions.

What we perceive as "objectivity" is not something to fanatically live by, but something to be transcended altogether, IMO. And "reality" is just as fixed or as fluid as our methods of inquiry, which are, to a large extent, hardwired and programmed into all of us.

"If you immediately know the candle light is fire, then the meal was cooked a long time ago".

 

[Appleheads]

The earth plane is flat as a pancake.

 

[Appleheads]

A drive through the midwest usa will reveal this fact. Perhaps the land mass is like a cubic crystal with flat sides, but since I was 14 when I flew to hawaii, I realized I had been had.
Flat as a line. ___________________________________

This is round O

This is flat ____

 

[Awani]

Deal with it. 😂

 

[Appleheads]

"curve your enthusiasm?"
Thats your proof that the world is a spinning ball? really? A hollywood production?

Hardy har har.

You can dismiss it but it will still be a flat horizon in the direct experience of witnessing the water of the ocean. I understand math is hard for most folks. There is no way the actual experience of viewing this domain coincides with the globe theory of the earth. It is a farce plain and simple. The earth is and always was a flat plane. Why does it matter? It matters because orientation, if you wanted to get to Bangkok, China, from Portland, Oregon, you could not get there traveling west as the maps, and the google tell us. There are so many fallacies in the globe model I can't believe people still regurgitate it.

I believe it also helps for the understanding of alchemy, if the sun and moon are not as far off as so believed but within a realm close to us, probably 2-3 miles away depending on if the influence is above us, than it means that there is more at work than meets the eye. Call me retarded. I have traveled half way around the world. It it is flat. How can flat be round?

I leave you with this logical and well thought out video, I realize I can't convince you, it has to be experienced for one self.


food for thought though.


Trains can not go up hill. No matter your belief.


Well maybe if you are tripping out on something and will it to be, but for the rest of us, surveyors never take in a hint of curvature to assess their surveys. They would laugh at you in their face, go ahead ask them....

 

[Awani]

If you understand math you can calculate the curve, which is why it was debunked before Christ.

While I might view Zionists Jews to be in control of governments and banks (which they are), I do think they are 100 % innocent on this matter unlike Mr. Dubay:

 

[Selcuk]

The Piri Reis Map of 1513

Portion of the 1513 Piri Reis Map The spectacular 1513 Piri Reis world map, next in our series of ancient maps, dates to the European ‘Great Age of Discovery’. It is one of the best-known early maps to depict the Americas, presenting a cartographic record of the oceanic voyages, expeditions and...

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This is a map of the flat world, it shows the coasts of the continents (including America) with high precision, it shows which animals live where, everything is drawn with high precision and coincides, this is confirmed by science.

But she has a secret (or 3) everyone should find out for themselves, for this you need to find the map in Google and examine it yourself.

It's about the flat earth, what would it be for Thread without mentioning the world map of Piri Reis? There is a very deep connection on this topic, I just want to enlighten people.

 

[Pilgrim]

Just out of interest, could any of the flat-earther's here offer a tangible reason why TPTB would invest so much time, effort and resources in trying to dupe the public into believing that the earth was round and spinning? Why does it matter?

 

[Appleheads]

IM DOING IT.

Meme them till they cry! then make memes of them crying!

Just out of interest, could any of the flat-earther's here offer a tangible reason why TPTB would invest so much time, effort and resources in trying to dupe the public into believing that the earth was round and spinning? Why does it matter?

Not a flat-earther, as that is an emotional generated name calling to disregard intelligently sourced info.

I live on a PLANEt. Planet, get it!?!?

Im a Plane liver.

The reason is because if you think you go east to get to china you will end up in the pacific with nothing around you. If you take a compass with you on a flight you will notice things do not seem as they appear. To get to China from america go Northwest. As the flights patterns shows.


say you want to go from AUCKLAND AU, to LIMA PERU, oh easy just fly to peru. Nope gotta land in LA first.

I have yet to have a globalist convince me otherwise.

Why is it important? Orientation. Where are you really? Why does it matter to know where you truly are????

IF you think you are spinning you think you have no control, when you realize you are on an immovable plane, the sun brings crops, the moon brings winter, it changes perspective, I began to realize I am able to actually be still. These bodies revolve around us.


All the most ancient of cultures believed we were on a flat plane. So the NASA nazis said otherwise. Whoop de fucking do. Go have your homo erotic pink swastika parties. Read Joseph Farrell and his amazing researched literature.

HHAHA I JUST WENT THERE HAHAH HAHHA HAHHAHAHAHAHH BIG L on the forehead!!! pbbbbbbbssyyyytttt

 

[Awani]

say you want to go from AUCKLAND AU, to LIMA PERU, oh easy just fly to peru. Nope gotta land in LA first.

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Holocaust denial is more respectable than "flat earth".

 

[ghetto alchemist]

could any of the flat-earther's here offer a tangible reason why TPTB would invest so much time, effort and resources in trying to dupe the public into believing that the earth was round and spinning? Why does it matter?

I'm not a flat earther, but I think TPTB have a very good reason to invest time effort and money into this.

Not to fool the normies "that the earth is round"...but rather to keep fooling the flat earthers that they're right.
Because flat earthers then seem totally unbelievable, even when they say other things that are true.
Eg: that there's a secret group conspiring to one day rule the world.

 

[Appleheads]

Thank you for your rebuttals. I am very OPEN to be proven WRONG. You detractors have yet to provide math

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Holocaust denial is more respectable than "flat earth".

I'm not a flat earther, but I think TPTB have a very good reason to invest time effort and money into this.

Not to fool the normies "that the earth is round"...but rather to keep fooling the flat earthers that they're right.
Because flat earthers then seem totally unbelievable, even when they say other things that are true.
Eg: that there's a secret group conspiring to one day rule the world.

I want numbers, calculations, actual data. When one searches, as I have, one is brought to an immense lack of data, or as in my case, so many different data's.

I know it is hard to admit to ourselves, that the world we coincide in is indeed a flat plane, surrounded in a firmament. It is easier to believe a U.S.A. propaganda ARM is more important than our own THINKING.

Take a flight half way across the world. With a compass, with a level.

Pour a shot glass of H20, then pour a bowl of H20, then pour a pool of H20, then observe a pond of H20, then observe a lake of H20, then observe the ocean HORIZON of salt water in a bay or ocean, any seemingly observant, observer would deduce that no curve could take place, next time you go to a beach bring a level with yourself. You will quickly deduce that that the water LEVEL, is A PLANE.

I have no hard feeling's to y'all. You have not had the blessing and privileges I have had.


How can I see CHICAGO,USA from BUFFALO, USA? except from a flat earth model?