Effects of the Stone

[LeoRetilus]

Why do you assume I'm not awake, also are you aware of the ego-ridden posts you've written in response to my simple questions?

I don't assume anything, I speak to the majority of what calls themselves humanity. Whereas I people like myself autistic savants are connected to nature and the eternal and Grand scale of how life perfects matter. The Christian say that the spirit Wars against the flesh how can they say this when it's the spirit that Adam makes their very bodies? This is why some people never get any place in alchemy cuz they fell to see that alchemy that's like in the inner alchemy prana Heidi it's the same energies spiritual life force one that travels in the ground galvanically that we call astral Spirit and the other that's in the air layer that we breathe both go into the food that we eat.

 

[Awani]

I am an artistic savant connected with nature and carrying wisdom most people are too small to understand.

 

[LeoRetilus]

I am an artistic savant connected with nature and carrying wisdom most people are too small to understand.

Perceptions of people in spheres within spheres , much like nested Russian dolls. All that's left is ascension.

These are my last words....here signed as a gorilla. Like my words fallen on deaf ears.

Please retire my account 🙏🏽

 

[Awani]

Perhaps make legible posts without bravado and people will not have deaf ears.

 

[SolX]

We see you @LeoRetilus ...Perhaps this level of interests is not for you.
an important question was asked in this tread line.
The effects of the red stone.
I am not seeing you contributing to information dealing with these interests.
I have answers! Not dealing with you.

 

[SolX]

To @

Kibric​

Yes, is your answer. yet? of course you will wish for expondment.
I hesitate to say what you have read, or suspect is not entirely accurate.
"THE WISHES OF MAN"

You're not going to like the answer. No one will,,,,, TODAY...
the answer is !!! what you are is what you will be

 

[SolX]

To go back in time and reverse the clock?

 

[Kiorionis]

Can anyone here come up with a somewhat quantifiable (or at least consensus) definition of "awake"?

Depends on which red pill you take, the old one or the new one.

That's an entirely different discussion, besides the topic of this thread. But to give a short reply, my theory is that some factors have been gradually but radically altered in our environment, which interfere with our "life engines", i.e. the mitochondria. And the fact that we depend on mitochondria for energy production as opposed to being able to magnetically attract Life-Energy directly, holistically and in a manner that is not dependent on the environment.

A worthwhile discussion, imo. I was going to bring up breath work and Franz Bardon style pore breathing, but you’re suggesting magnetization is not dependent on the environment?

Because isn’t that the presupposition to the Spiritus Mundi thread, that “It is a living Universal Fluid, diffused throughout Nature”?

 

[Andro]

but you’re suggesting magnetization is not dependent on the environment?

I'm suggesting that for a perfected "light/etheric being", it is independent of the environment, because the absorption does not occur through the biological channels from the ambient field, but directly from counter-space, i.e. "light attracts light"...

But corporification from the surrounding ambiance via earthly magnets can depend on the environment, unless we hermetically "open" a mineral with some clever & ingenious method and "extract" (i.e. corporify) the alchemical energy that was already accumulated inside it... In this case, it's the internal environment of the fixed mineral subject that matters more than the outer ambiance, IMO.

 

[ArgentSeeker]

From the RexResearch Site and book of Adept Alchemy:

Anonymous ~ Tractatus de Lapide
"In the use of this Medicine, many great Philosophers themselves, after they obtained this wonderful blessing, desiring to have perfect Health, have been so bold as to take a certain quantity of it, some no more than a quarter of a grain, some less, some more, but all that did so with it, instead of Health, took Death itself; for there is no small skill to it for Medicine, though every fool think if he had it, he could cure all diseases, and himself too, and set the Elements at unity, which few men have known, neither is there but one way to it with safety; if this be not known, more hurt than good may be received by it. For the method of Health, it is thus: Take the quantity of four grains, I do not mean the grains of Wheat, or Barley grains or corns, but four grains of Gold weight, and dissolve them in a pint of white or Rhenish wine, but in no hot wine, as Sack, &c. put it into a great clean Glass, and instantly it will colour all the Wine almost as red as it self was, which is the highest red in the World: let it stand so, close covered from dust, four days, for in respect it is an Oylie substance, it will not presently dissolve in Wine; then add to this pint more by degrees, until it be not so red, stirring it with a clean stick of wood, not of metal, nor Glass, and so continue the pouring on of fresh Wine, until it be just of the colour of gold, which is a shining yellow. Beware that there be no redness in it; for so long as there is any redness in it, it is not sufficiently dilated, but will fire the Body, and exhaust the Spirits: neither is it sufficiently brought to yellow, until the Wine have round about the sides a ring like Hair, of a whitish film, which will shew itself plain when it is well dissolved, if it stand but four hours quiet. As soon as you see this whitish film, then let it run through a clean linen Cloth, or Paper, so the white film will stay behind and look like a pearl on the paper: and all the rest will be yellow like Gold. This is the token of truth, that you cannot wrong yourself by this Liquor; and without this token, it will be either too weak, or so strong that it will fire the Body. Know this to be a rare Secret. Of this Golden Water, let the party (of what disease soever he be sick of) take each morning a good large spoonful, and it shall expel the disease whatsoever it be, by a gentle sweat; for it purgeth not, nor vomiteth, nor sweateth so much as to make faint, but to corroborate: I say, it strengthens the party; and if the disease be of many years continuance, or a Chronical disease, it will then be perhaps twelve days, otherwise but twenty four hours, or two or three days at most. Thus it must be used for all diseases internal: But for all external diseases, as Ulcers, Scabs, Botches, Scores, Fistulas, Noli me tangere's, &c, the place must be anointed with the Oyl of the Stone it self, not dilated in wine; and after this manner it must be done nine or ten days, and be it whatsoever it will, it will cure all outward and inward diseases. And more than this, whosoever carries this Stone about him, no evil Spirit can or will stay in the place; nay bringing or giving it to a party possessed, it drives away and expels the evil Spirits: for it is a Quintessence, and there is no corruptible thing in it; and where the Elements are not corrupt, no Devil can stay or abide, for he is the corruption of the Elements. This Medicine taken nine days as aforesaid, and the Temples of the Head anointed with the Oyl of the Stone each day in the Morning, it will make a man as light as if he could fly, and his Body so aerial it is not to be credited, but by him who hath experienced it. These most admirable qualities it hath, perfect health it giveth, till God calls for the Soul; and perfect knowledge it giveth (if the truth be known but even this part hath been known but to a few that have made it, for it is a Divine, and as it were an Angelical Medicine. The white is not to be used for any disease but Madness, in the same proportion, and way or preparation that the red Stone was..."

As you can see, they dilute The Stone in wine to make it amenable for consumption. Point of order, however, is that the strength of the medicine depends on the multiplication level of The Stone. To take anything beyond the third order of multiplication is not recommended. Some alchemists have consumed The Stone directly (first order, unmultiplied) which leads to the following:
-Hair, nails, teeth, and other various things fall out/off of the body
-The body steams and sweats out impurities and other related toxins
-All grow back, in perfect health
-Some have reported the ability to see through their eyelids after such an "overdose"
-Instant and permanent ability to lucid dream and astral project
-Confrontation of internal mental instabilities and disorders, leading to resolution of such unwanted traits
-Psychic and telekinetic abilities
-Prolonging of life and correction of disabilities/health issues. Some claim regrown limbs and digits

Important caveat is that some have claimed the ability to live for over 1000 years, but others only report increased life and health until the ages of 125+. This is probably because the extreme longevity effects only arise via specialized preparation of The Stone, or a specialized elixir. The above "High Dosage/Overdose" effects may also be achieved by repeated and prolonged use of the diluted elixir, specifically psychic abilities and other such health benefits. An alternative consideration is that the alchemists may also choose to disappear, or be made to disappear, by the IC. Conversely, they may choose to die in the flesh and then become spooks. The Chinese refer to this as "Ghost Immortal", to my understanding.

 

[Jimmy Rig]

As you can see, they dilute The Stone in wine to make it amenable for consumption. Point of order, however, is that the strength of the medicine depends on the multiplication level of The Stone. To take anything beyond the third order of multiplication is not recommended. Some alchemists have consumed The Stone directly (first order, unmultiplied) which leads to the following:
-Hair, nails, teeth, and other various things fall out/off of the body
-The body steams and sweats out impurities and other related toxins
-All grow back, in perfect health
-Some have reported the ability to see through their eyelids after such an "overdose"
-Instant and permanent ability to lucid dream and astral project
-Confrontation of internal mental instabilities and disorders, leading to resolution of such unwanted traits
-Psychic and telekinetic abilities
-Prolonging of life and correction of disabilities/health issues. Some claim regrown limbs and digits

Important caveat is that some have claimed the ability to live for over 1000 years, but others only report increased life and health until the ages of 125+. This is probably because the extreme longevity effects only arise via specialized preparation of The Stone, or a specialized elixir. The above "High Dosage/Overdose" effects may also be achieved by repeated and prolonged use of the diluted elixir, specifically psychic abilities and other such health benefits. An alternative consideration is that the alchemists may also choose to disappear, or be made to disappear, by the IC. Conversely, they may choose to die in the flesh and then become spooks. The Chinese refer to this as "Ghost Immortal", to my understanding.

A very small amount, gradually increasing the alchemists vibration is a more responsible choice.
The lifespan is totally up to the divine/creator. Can be granted if there is a reason for it.
At some level the alchemist becomes much more conscious of their connection to the divine/God/Creator as they begin to experience that bridge more and more.

Anonymous ~ Tractatus de Lapide
"In the use of this Medicine, many great Philosophers themselves, after they obtained this wonderful blessing, desiring to have perfect Health, have been so bold as to take a certain quantity of it, some no more than a quarter of a grain, some less, some more, but all that did so with it, instead of Health, took Death itself; for there is no small skill to it for Medicine, though every fool think if he had it, he could cure all diseases, and himself too, and set the Elements at unity, which few men have known, neither is there but one way to it with safety; if this be not known, more hurt than good may be received by it. For the method of Health, it is thus: Take the quantity of four grains, I do not mean the grains of Wheat, or Barley grains or corns, but four grains of Gold weight, and dissolve them in a pint of white or Rhenish wine, but in no hot wine, as Sack, &c. put it into a great clean Glass, and instantly it will colour all the Wine almost as red as it self was, which is the highest red in the World: let it stand so, close covered from dust, four days, for in respect it is an Oylie substance, it will not presently dissolve in Wine; then add to this pint more by degrees, until it be not so red, stirring it with a clean stick of wood, not of metal, nor Glass, and so continue the pouring on of fresh Wine, until it be just of the colour of gold, which is a shining yellow. Beware that there be no redness in it; for so long as there is any redness in it, it is not sufficiently dilated, but will fire the Body, and exhaust the Spirits: neither is it sufficiently brought to yellow, until the Wine have round about the sides a ring like Hair, of a whitish film, which will shew itself plain when it is well dissolved, if it stand but four hours quiet. As soon as you see this whitish film, then let it run through a clean linen Cloth, or Paper, so the white film will stay behind and look like a pearl on the paper: and all the rest will be yellow like Gold. This is the token of truth, that you cannot wrong yourself by this Liquor; and without this token, it will be either too weak, or so strong that it will fire the Body. Know this to be a rare Secret. Of this Golden Water, let the party (of what disease soever he be sick of) take each morning a good large spoonful, and it shall expel the disease whatsoever it be, by a gentle sweat; for it purgeth not, nor vomiteth, nor sweateth so much as to make faint, but to corroborate: I say, it strengthens the party; and if the disease be of many years continuance, or a Chronical disease, it will then be perhaps twelve days, otherwise but twenty four hours, or two or three days at most. Thus it must be used for all diseases internal: But for all external diseases, as Ulcers, Scabs, Botches, Scores, Fistulas, Noli me tangere's, &c, the place must be anointed with the Oyl of the Stone it self, not dilated in wine; and after this manner it must be done nine or ten days, and be it whatsoever it will, it will cure all outward and inward diseases.

I feel that a good large spoonful of the Yellow elixir would be excessive. But perhaps its alright in some circumstances. At most a few drops in a glass of water is good and we best to commune for the best results IMO(which are what? We should be somewhat open minded to the possibilities and that it might not be what we expect).

Good post Argent Seeker.

 

[ArgentSeeker]

A very small amount, gradually increasing the alchemists vibration is a more responsible choice.
The lifespan is totally up to the divine/creator. Can be granted if there is a reason for it.
At some level the alchemist becomes much more conscious of their connection to the divine/God/Creator as they begin to experience that bridge more and more.

I feel that a good large spoonful of the Yellow elixir would be excessive. But perhaps its alright in some circumstances. At most a few drops in a glass of water is good and we best to commune for the best results IMO(which are what? We should be somewhat open minded to the possibilities and that it might not be what we expect).

Good post Argent Seeker.

Well, my intuitive understanding of the elixir is the same as The Stone itself. Depending on concentration/multiplication, it will have more or less an effect on the body or the metal that is to be transmuted. What the elixir and The Stone both do is perfect the respective bodies that they work on. In terms of metal, you only need to do it once since the metal doesn't leak its "mercury" the way the human bodies does, so it's necessary to keep taking the elixir over time if you want to extend life. It's not a one and done experience. Conversely, the Chinese approach is to create The Stone within the body, and then they don't have to worry about making the external elixir. Consider, however, that taking the elixir for hundreds of years might confer the same effect that creating the "Celestial Body" does for the Chinese, though I imagine there has to be a greater unity between mind and body and a greater purification process in order for The Stone to form properly if you're only to take the external elixir. Probably too many impurities that are introduced if you basically live the western lifestyle for hundreds of years.

 

[Jimmy Rig]

it's necessary to keep taking the elixir over time if you want to extend life. It's not a one and done experience. Conversely, the Chinese approach is to create The Stone within the body, and then they don't have to worry about making the external elixir.

Yes. Gradually. And it's not necessarily going to extend life. IMO. Some alchemists lived regular life spans. Each is different.

 

[ArgentSeeker]

Yes. Gradually. And it's not necessarily going to extend life. IMO. Some alchemists lived regular life spans. Each is different.

Very true, but my hypothesis is that some just wanted to leave the meatbag experience and get on with whatever the next thing was/is. I think it's also true that not all elixirs are made equal when it comes to life extension. As has been mentioned on the forums a few times, the extent to which you're chock full of quintessence probably dictates how long you can stick around. In all cases, however, the people who routinely consume such things leave behind bodies that don't rot, which speaks somewhat to the effects of cultivating spirit, either by consumption of elixirs or via special practices which improve the body and make it a less porous vessel. Certain saints and monks have bodies that are basically in perfect condition, as a for example, and they're often on display for those who wish to view them. Better bodies and flasks make for better containment of the good stuff, so to speak.