Effects of the Stone

[Awani]

I don’t get the one issue voter reference. What do you mean?

 

[LeoRetilus]

I don’t get the one issue voter reference. What do you mean?

Lol just a joke, but you know a one platform or one issue voter only looks at what immediately concerns him /her versus a more holistic approach. We tend to always only look though the lens of our own filters,that which concerns or bothers us the most and then we group, box or dismiss based on these biases. It s very limiting world view whereas we should be first broaden our consciousness and intellects to encapsulate or nest the all within the all and see the beauty of the world without any constrictions or bias, for everything is connected, intermingled interrelated, hence we extrapolate to make sense of things logically .As Tool said in a song, it only man who separates and classifies, this is taking the existing intellect before expansion and trying to fit everything within it, instead of vice versa. It's also why it's common for tribal people the first believe in religion in God the group everything within the unknown describe it to God as they learn more and more but remove the unknown from this fear of the unknown and way it's ascribed it to an unknown being which is funny because in the state of limited intellect and consciousness expansion all they can do is personify and so they put everything in their own image instead of realizing that they're not the center of the world hence all of the egocentricities of man.

 

[Appleheads]

These pictures were taken by myself with my phone, no filters someone told me once ,an uncle that I vowed blue sometimes but I dismissed it, it's want until recently that I began to put things together, I never. Relieved in aura pictures and I still don't, while looking through my phone camera albums I pulled these out , it only happens to me in the spring, there is a definite field that develops around my head and throat and I lying when I am projecting love for others or for nature. When I read the story of Shiva it immediately clicked, I also sometimes sew and feel the "serpent" around my neck. This is the aerial chi or spiritus .undi that I have the ability to collect with my mind, this proves the concept of inner alchemy and the tallest alchemy and that with the mind with sufficient practice it is the magnet and then with the correct breathing it will scheduled into a part of the body that feeds the true prima matera, into the mine of Saturn I have an entire working paradigm! It's want until I consumed the stone that it became photographable. I pwnt say anymore. I could care less for anyone's validation I simply do it now for those who believe and have read my writings. I leave it to those industrious individuals to find the way forward from here. I have no doubt that my desire will be fulfilled because in order to do so certain spiritual traits have to be developed and maintained.
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Thanks Leo, I see the resemblance, very interesting, intriguing, VERY interesting. Thanks for you post.-----------

 

[LeoRetilus]

Thanks Leo, I see the resemblance, very interesting, intriguing, VERY interesting. Thanks for you post.-----------

Thanks and welcome

 

[Awani]

Lol just a joke, but you know a one platform or one issue voter only looks at what immediately concerns him /her versus a more holistic approach.

Ok, I fail to see how that applies to anything I've said as if I don't comprehend the holistic approach. Do you have a good camera or is the smudge because it is dirty or crappy or is it aura? A perfectly resonable question. Photos taken with a window behind the object photographed almost always create a light effect. This is photography 101. If holistic is important, why not consider these aspects?

...instead of realizing that they're not the center of the world hence all of the egocentricities of man...

Can you spot the irony of this sentence?

 

[LeoRetilus]

Ok, I fail to see how that applies to anything I've said as if I don't comprehend the holistic approach. Do you have a good camera or is the smudge because it is dirty or crappy or is it aura? A perfectly reasonable question. Photos taken with a window behind the object photographed almost always create a light effect. This is photography 101. If holistic is important, why not consider these aspects?

Can you spot the irony of this sentence?

It bc you failed to see an actual holistic approach ? And latched on to a detail, a single issue?
I have hundreds of selfies taken with same phone in the same locations, my office,my car, in front of my lake, and this effect is not there only the ones taken in the spring! No no smidge, lol.

Validate on invalidate from that angle, not from an bias, yes holistically. I'm an analyst , physicist, chemist and a multi disciplined engineer and I had to take notice and examine this instead of dismiss it and it ultimately lead me to post here bc, yes it's important and it's real! I could further explain how and why this effect is happening but it should probably remain somewhat secret and discovered by the practitioner. I don't volunteer methods only provide assurance that there is something more for us.

No not really lol. It's how the unfoldment of the primitive intellect unfolds. Everything starts by identifying the outside world with the self instead of the other way around, it's why they once thought the earth was the center of the universe lol, why they personify God,who some people think the world revives around them, why every issue is a reflection of the lens of the own filter, which is a reflection of the self. Why in a relationship after the two year honeymoon period is over they enter the power struggle phase which is a fight of egos for superiority.

The dark night of the soul is where one begins to realize that the ego is a liar. Developed by nature to save a weak species from extinction. The Magnum Opus is a journey inward to ultimately dissolve the ego so that the intellect and consciousness can truly develop and unfold as nature intended and lead especially to Godhood, ascendency and becoming an Elohim
- it starts with a spiritual practice and a correct identification with the outside world and put oneself in the true place and role in nature. Everything is interconnected but it is the ego that identifies and separates in an effort to own and control.l. We are called to be more than talking monkeys. Absolute Truth existed long before a human discovered a small thread and will remain long after that thread is lost by humans or on humans lol.

 

[Awani]

You talk down. This is why I dismiss it.

...it should probably remain somewhat secret....

Always a red flag IMO.

 

[Appleheads]

It bc you failed to see an actual holistic approach ? And latched on to a detail, a single issue?
I have hundreds of selfies taken with same phone in the same locations, my office,my car, in front of my lake, and this effect is not there only the ones taken in the spring! No no smidge, lol.

Validate on invalidate from that angle, not from an bias, yes holistically. I'm an analyst , physicist, chemist and a multi disciplined engineer and I had to take notice and examine this instead of dismiss it and it ultimately lead me to post here bc, yes it's important and it's real! I could further explain how and why this effect is happening but it should probably remain somewhat secret and discovered by the practitioner. I don't volunteer methods only provide assurance that there is something more for us.

No not really lol. It's how the unfoldment of the primitive intellect unfolds. Everything starts by identifying the outside world with the self instead of the other way around, it's why they once thought the earth was the center of the universe lol, why they personify God,who some people think the world revives around them, why every issue is a reflection of the lens of the own filter, which is a reflection of the self. Why in a relationship after the two year honeymoon period is over they enter the power struggle phase which is a fight of egos for superiority.

The dark night of the soul is where one begins to realize that the ego is a liar. Developed by nature to save a weak species from extinction. The Magnum Opus is a journey inward to ultimately dissolve the ego so that the intellect and consciousness can truly develop and unfold as nature intended and lead especially to Godhood, ascendency and becoming an Elohim
- it starts with a spiritual practice and a correct identification with the outside world and put oneself in the true place and role in nature. Everything is interconnected but it is the ego that identifies and separates in an effort to own and control.l. We are called to be more than talking monkeys. Absolute Truth existed long before a human discovered a small thread and will remain long after that thread is lost by humans or on humans lol.

Leo it is so strange you are reading my mind, I have been thinking the same thoughts lately. Spooky.

 

[LeoRetilus]

You talk down. This is why I dismiss it.


Always a red flag IMO.

IDK I don't see knowledge as power like humans do, I live on the other side of fear, ignorance and ego, where there is supreme abundance and only absolute truth,and love.so no one understands me and I'm always misunderstood, I'm i autistic nuff said..
Humans see things in levels of descending and "higher levels of vibration" or existence condescending and ascending, it's why di Vinci painted hid Adam touching God, lol. That God was nothing more than athe greys who ,much to my disappointment arent that evolved either seeking to be worshiped and play King of the mountain as humans do .I'd rather live in obscurity it's more peaceful. But I know that the world of men is in jeopardy, so if a few truly wake by a slight effort from me, ok I'm not looking for anything, I've already found it all and gain the whole universe, it man who is disconnected from nature and absolute truth, it's the ego that seperates from the divine

 

[LeoRetilus]

Leo it is so strange you are reading my mind, I have been thinking the same thoughts lately. Spooky.

I don't read anyone's mind these thoughts are my own, predicated from 48 years of living amongst you, a certain amount of time isolated in disgust and contempt and now trying to help without doing more harm. I dnt even speak until I'm certain, my worst fear was always being wrong or failure, so now I refuse to be either. Ultimately everything meets with a terminus, that which is truth survives even if there is no one left to hear it or learn it, we are nothing but a short lived spark in a sea of longer burning flames

.My only question is is could with my chief concern,how much time is left? The Romans used to engrave on their sundials....it's later than you think. Regardless if time is an illusion, nothing escapes a vortex especially if it's past the point of no return. It's disgust me to think that Oppenheimer was trying to get the study of quantum mechanics and black holes to be taken seriously but there was no industrial scale up revenue to be had , but there was in war so he shifted to making a fucking bigger bomb? What good does it do to find out who is the strongest and fittest when there is nothing left to survive on or in much less be comfortable in? Who takes care of it,? A personified God? Lol just as warlike and primitive as the .ones who conceived it and kept it alive, all predicated in the unknown and uncontrollable, yeah. It teach them something, now God has no control of it anymore, lol. Does not everyone else see that humans are but children?

Now all their is left to do is chastisements? Why? Noone ever wakes up. Where Christ ? Was he not to arrive and chastise mankind? Yeah Ive got my b to say about him too but I rather say it to his face

.https://youtu.be/wKOurjKFOL8?si=9-sodUZI2XiJh0jx

The balance from 33 to 72 is this! Becoming an Elohim, but how? It means leaving everything that. It means to be a human must be abandoned,the math is absolute there. I keeping your current thoughts and desires to adopt what it takes to "ascend ' let's not say that I need to condescend and for you to add end so that we meet halfway. O that's way to functional and affect the ego from that level. That is what needs to go first, that and the fear and ignorance. Be bold and courageous, no I mean it! I could use some help! I know what must be done, I've seen it all unfold. Dune is a greet book ! The one from the outside points the way to ultimate abundance but one must fight for it , the fight is an Internal one, not one with me. I'm not a choosen one I. asking you to chose yourselves and meet yourselves halfway. Once you make the decision far off in the distant future is the you who is the product of that decision trying to meet you halfway trying to condescend while you ascend it is the future perfected you that's unified with proof and has become also as intended the mind why is the ears of nature so that it can determine how to get there well you the compass of the wise points the way but you have to be aligned to that future so obstacles must be removed so that you can meet yourself halfway. It's all about that I've done and now the two of us walk together,r there's many sidhis, but they are not powers , but only necessities to accomplish the work at hand. They shift and come and go as needed. Outer alchemy is great but it's not the end what good does it do to have a tool outside of the self when the self is still limited it's that Western thought any tool I need a resource I need this or that I don't want to have accomplished what I need to do I let it all go now uncomfortable that's not the same as inter alchemy or the magnets are left in place and the man becomes the subject not an outer salt and the mission no longer becomes about healing long life and wealth and it becomes about being selfless caring for others that you don't even know caring about how far off distant fate that hasn't even happened yet it's all about shifting ones scope from on the self and of the self to encompassing everyone and everything.

 

[Pilgrim]

Photoshop Blur tool.

 

[LeoRetilus]

Photoshop Blur tool.

Wow ! Such an authority! Maybe you can point me to the resource that contains the version of Photoshop than runs on an arm vortex processor typical in phones and also with enough RAM to render Photoshop cuz I just have a shitty android Motorola phone myself, as I typically go through about three phones a year so I refuse to spring for an iphone , which by the way even Mac iOS does not run Photoshop, it doesn't run open source version that's free that I actually like better on Linux or Mac and it's called Gimp And when you say blur, I mean I've got expensive experience with Photoshop I'm particularly although it's been 10 years or so for me, and I don't know about the current version as you are the authority, but do you mean "dodge"? Which is applied and blurs pixels together. And if you were to zoom in that you would see every picture is different and you would actually see radiating effects , pixel by pixel around my head forehead that are not evident of any other source of light but photnically gather in full spectrum light and I'm turn radiated by my own body as solet blue light something that quite impossible with any "tool" maybe you need glasses and a better phone or computer yourself to zoom and then analyze things closer which is what I've done.

Dismiss it idc nature has already dismissed human and they have dismissed it , what I can't believe is all of you come on here and are just looking for a recipe and or a method from another person instead of doing the work yourself as if everything knowledge included is a tool or a resource to be wielded by a human hand that seeks only power control, validation and acclaim.. The basis of alchemy is the rectification of yourself to expand your consciousness and intellect to the point that you can even contemplate these matters of alchemy much less learn them assimilate them expound upon them and a practice with them!

 

[Awani]

...if a few truly wake by a slight effort from me, ok I'm not looking for anything, I've already found it all and gain the whole universe, it man who is disconnected from nature and absolute truth, it's the ego that seperates from the divine...

Why do you assume I'm not awake, also are you aware of the ego-ridden posts you've written in response to my simple questions?

 

[Andro]

Can anyone here come up with a somewhat quantifiable (or at least consensus) definition of "awake"?

Otherwise it's just a non-word, a vague platitude, easy to randomly and indiscriminately throw around.

 

[Awani]

Can anyone here come up with a somewhat quantifiable (or at least consensus) definition of "awake"?

Someone who is not a slave to established truths, looking past societal illusions to grasp deeper realities and searching for new questions.

I would not see someone awake as having arrived, but rather "on the journey", which makes sense as those asleep aren't moving.

Awake is not enlightened, but the enlightened are awake.

 

[Illen A. Cluf]

Can anyone here come up with a somewhat quantifiable (or at least consensus) definition of "awake"?

Otherwise it's just a non-word, a vague platitude, easy to randomly and indiscriminately throw around.

Yes, in the context of your question, here is a good defintion of "awake":

"A state of heightened awareness and perception beyond ordinary consciousness, in which one recognizes deeper spiritual truths, the interconnectedness of all things, and the limitations of purely material existence."

 

[Pilgrim]

Can anyone here come up with a somewhat quantifiable (or at least consensus) definition of "awake"?

Short version

Awake = Anyone who consciously refused the Covid jabs

 

[Andro]

Awake = Anyone who consciously refused the Covid jabs

As the math saying goes: Necessary, but not sufficient.

 

[Awani]

Awake is on the spectrum... 😅

"I appreciate the thoughtful takes so far. Awani’s idea of being 'on the journey' rather than having arrived resonates—it suggests 'awake' is dynamic, a process of questioning and seeing beyond the surface. Illen’s definition adds depth with its focus on heightened awareness and spiritual insight, which feels like a measurable shift in perception, even if it’s hard to quantify precisely. Pilgrim’s angle, while specific, highlights how context can shape the term, though Andro’s right that it’s only part of the puzzle. Maybe 'awake' could be framed as a spectrum: a blend of skepticism toward imposed narratives, active pursuit of truth, and an expanded consciousness that’s testable by one’s actions and insights over time. Thoughts?" - courtesy of Grok

 

[Andro]

Thread topic reminder: Effects of the Stone

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Paraphrasing & summarizing Ali Puli:

According to Ali Puli in his Epistles, any matter or part or organ attracts to itself that which it is lacking. Thereby, healing may be accomplished by an Alchemical Elixir, as it is Concentrated Nature and Universal Life, so every matter or part or organ that is lacking can take to itself (from the Elixir) all it requires to be made whole again, by the human Magnet principle. Light, air and food contain this Life only in a low concentration (dilute/dispersed), and the parts which are lacking must "fight" among themselves and compete (*) for this precious Life that has gone missing from them.

(*) The fighting & competing bit is not from Ali Puli, but derived from the more holistic fields of contemporary medicine.

Or, to simplify (and interpret) Ali Puli in more modern terms:

Entropy is the Magnet for Negentropy.

Anything in a state of High Entropy is perceived as vile and despicable, of course. We eat together, but we shit alone. We isolate ourselves from the diseased, the elderly and the dying. We stay away from decaying corpses. We are disgusted by our own waste and garbage. Many waste-disposal workers make good money. Out of sight, out of mind. Kicked away and swept under the rug. But not so for a True Philosopher. For the True Philosopher, Entropy is a Pearl of Great Price.

Any other chymical/sophist artifices or compositions, even if somewhat demonstrably efficient, are therefore necessitatively of a lesser grade, alchemically speaking. In the literal words of Ali Puli, it's what differentiates "True Alchemy" from "Common Alchemy".

Addendum: We may wonder why the sick and the dying (high entropy state) aren't just magnetically attracting more Life to themselves. This is because their Magnet functions (breathing, digestion, light absorption, etc.) are failing them as well. A proper Elixir can bypass those mechanisms due to its high ingress, so it can, on its own, reach the innermost places where it is needed. Also, the organism is a complex system and its diverse/heterogeneous parts "fight" and "compete" for a supply that is already low and dilute. A simple and homogeneous Magnet is therefore required. See Hermetic Recreations. Once the organism dies (= ceases to function as a whole), the is no more "competition" between the heterogeneous parts, and the cycle of nature resumes.

Note: Just as High-Entropy Magnets work well for getting an advantageous head-start, the opposite is also true. Highly Cohered Philosophical Matters will ALSO magnetize/ferment more of themselves. But this is a later development in the work.

 

[Pilgrim]

Addendum: We may wonder why the sick and the dying (high entropy state) aren't just magnetically attracting more Life to themselves. This is because their Magnet functions (breathing, digestion, light absorption, etc.) are failing them as well. A proper Elixir can bypass those mechanisms due to its high ingress,

So out of interest what is your theory of the ordinary state of Nature in which human life can not sustain itself without such an Elixir? Clearly any elixir is not a naturally occuring product of Nature, it is made of Nature but by the art of the alchemist. So is Nature inherently faulty in some way because life can not sustain itself without these human assembled elixirs? Or are elixirs in fact something unNatural, extending life that Nature would otherwise destroy?

 

[Andro]

So out of interest what is your theory of the ordinary state of Nature in which human life can not sustain itself without such an Elixir?

Because our bodies have been "engineered" this way. But ultimately, entropy is inherent to this reality construct and will ultimately have the upper hand, as long as one is bound to such a construct. Even for beings who can literally live for millions of years. This is my theory.

It is unknown to me whether such Elixirs only prolong the health-span to match the life-span, or whether they can prolong the life-span as well. But there are better things that can be gotten than an increased life-span in here.

 

[Pilgrim]

Because our bodies have been "engineered" this way.

And who in your opinion are the "engineers"? Do you believe that we were originally different, a true product of Nature and that some other entity/entities have since doctored our DNA to make us what we are now?

 

[Andro]

And who in your opinion are the "engineers"? Do you believe that we were originally different, a true product of Nature and that some other entity/entities have since doctored our DNA to make us what we are now?

That's an entirely different discussion, besides the topic of this thread. But to give a short reply, my theory is that some factors have been gradually but radically altered in our environment, which interfere with our "life engines", i.e. the mitochondria. And the fact that we depend on mitochondria for energy production as opposed to being able to magnetically attract Life-Energy directly, holistically and in a manner that is not dependent on the environment. Basically, Life Energy is everywhere and All-in-All, but our Magnets are compromised and over-complex, even if we theoretically could get them to operate in optimal condition. The goal of many bio-hackers is to optimize mitochondria, but the really bad idea is to bind human consciousness to man-made machines, also hyper-complex but with factory-replaceable parts. Or organic cloning. Watch the series Altered Carbon.

Our physical bodies are currently very complex and heterogeneous, more like biological machines/robots with innumerable parts, as opposed to the "closer-to-original" light/etheric bodies, which are able to attract and use this Life Energy directly, without employing complex mechanisms such as breathing, eating and light absorption. Or re-chargeable power from a single outlet, in the case of electronically complex machines/robots. In biblical analogous terms, we could refer to this as a "fallen" state, strictly physically speaking. That's also why the optimal alchemical Magnet is ideally homogeneous, and many alchemical texts actually mention this.

Since many people see biblical narrative as alchmical allegory, we could say that the original, perfect "Adam" is the classical alchemical compound of "Agent/Heaven" (the upper breath/niter) and "Earth/Patient" (the lower lump of clay/salt). No more,no less. No mention of any heterogeneous complexities.

I won't be getting into my thoughts regarding who, what or why.

 

[LeoRetilus]

Yes, in the context of your question, here is a good defintion of "awake":

"A state of heightened awareness and perception beyond ordinary consciousness, in which one recognizes deeper spiritual truths, the interconnectedness of all things, and the limitations of purely material existence."

Yes absolutely! Exactly what Im talking about. It's the beginning to unfolding the consciousness and the intellect