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We should start a new thread about duality and opposites but I'll continue here so we don't lose your comment.

"Evil is an absence of good"

Do you mean like cold is an absence of heat?
Or like light, is an absence of darkness
Or like blackness is an absence of white.

Or how shortness is an absence of height.
Or how skinny is an absence of fat?

So why is not hate an absence of love? Or death not an absence of life?

I agree that duality is an illusion. There is not such thing as cold. Only less heat. There is no such thing as darkness. Only a lack of light. Etc etc. imo.
hey Elixir,
So, I am comfortable with all the "absences" being on the same spectrum...
Cold is the absence of heat.
Darkness is the absence of light.
Same spectrum.

and sure, hate could be said to be an absence of love.

What I realize I am wanting to convey here is that
people often say Good and Evil are opposites.
But they are not in the same way that cold and hot are and are extremes of the same spectrum.
Love and hate belong to another category. My apologies for confusing that.

I see God as being of the nature of Good.
I am not defining here what Good is. That'll be a shitshow.
What I mean is - this God-stuff is the Stuff of the Universe.
Good is a lousy word for it, but it's got that quality because it IS.
being what IS, it's also true. That makes it good. I hope you can accept that.

Now, evil is NOT of this same stuff.
In fact, it's not real at all, from one perspective.
It cannot exist at all because God / Isness is ALL that exists.
However it can and does exist in the form of illusion, which, really, doesn't exist, right?
But since we can and do believe in evil here on this plane of existence, then it has some weight, some clout,
when we give it influence.

In my mini thesis conclusion here - Good and Evil are not opposites. Good IS and Evil is just an illusion.
Cold and Hot are opposites and the way in which cold lacks heat is not the same way in which
evil lacks good.
 

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Good and evil + all the other similar concepts seem to be intertwined like the hermaphroditic androgyne.
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Good and evil + all the other similar concepts seem to be intertwined like the hermaphroditic androgyne.

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I don't agree. that's what I am trying to say here.

hermaphroditic androgynes are balanced opposites.
like hot and cold. light and dark. yin and yang. masculine and feminine.
I do not believe that good and evil belong to these.
And I do not believe it is true to equate Light and Dark with Good and Evil either.
 

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I like this last part:
And I do not believe it is true to equate Light and Dark with Good and Evil either.
This I totally agree with. Many evil things seem bright (pokie machines is a great example) while many good things are hidden and "dark" such as the world's Mysteries.

Good and Evil is a very messy and complicated topic I agree. The bible is weird in the sense that "we ate if the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil" but then we seemed to have no idea and had to have Moses explicitly explain what was good and what what evil.

So either the paradise fruit didn't work, or what's possibly more likely was that our understanding of what is good and what is evil is lost.

I can think of hundreds of scenarios where what I believe to be good would be considered evil by the majority of society and vice versa.

I would love to compile the world's biggest list of polar opposites.

Hell. With the advent of A.I. that won't even be a difficult task. That is tonight's stupid mission. Ill post it here when I'm done.
 
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Okay I did the list and it really wasn't at all exciting. I'm not even going to post it.

Some opposites that may have gone unseen but that could be useful are:

Rough - Soft
Transparent - Opaque

These are the two, non-obvious, and yet still physically useful opposites that AI was able to provide. Imo.
 

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Good and Evil is a very messy and complicated topic I agree. The bible is weird in the sense that "we ate if the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil" but then we seemed to have no idea and had to have Moses explicitly explain what was good and what what evil.

So either the paradise fruit didn't work, or what's possibly more likely was that our understanding of what is good and what is evil is lost.

If you're going to take the Bible story literally (which I believe is wrong) then your answer lies in the fact that as soon as Adam and Eve ate from the forbidden tree they died and thus any knowledge they had was lost. There are problems here though. In most Bibles the story just goes on to say that Adam and Eve carried on living and covered themselves up, now knowing that they were naked etc. Certain religious groups believe in additional scriptures or Bible versions and are adamant that God's promise was true, i.e. that when they ate from the tree they died immediately. To explain the subsequent verses they say that God then created a 2nd Adam to replace the first. It's all a bit of a mess TBH which is pretty much what you always get if you try taking the Bible story literally.

Good and evil are just subjective notions governed by how you are programmed from birth. One could make the argument that God is evil because he has all the knowledge and all the power to create and heal and yet deliberately keeps it from others to stay in power. Regarding the Adam/Eve story then he exploited their ignorance, lack of knowledge. Let them wander around naked and never letting them understand everything. The equivalent today might be having a baby and keeping it isolated from the world around us, never teaching it anything, keeping it away from TV and civilisation and so on.

There's also an argument to suggest that God is evil by the very fact that he deliberately put the forbidden tree right there in the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve instead of, well, anywhere else in the universe. If God is all-knowing as some claim, then he knew in advance that putting the tree there would result in Adam and Eve's death and the following fall of mankind. So that's make it doubly wicked that he put it there where they could get at it.

All in all I think it's best not to take too much of the Bible literally. It just doesn't hang together and contradicts itself at every turn. I believe it's mostly allegorical and contains important messages and secrets in those allegories and the cryptic language used.
 

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I believe it's mostly allegorical and contains important messages and secrets in those allegories and the cryptic language used.
Yes Pilgrim it's true. What did Jesus say?
"The secrets of the Kingdom are not for them"

And many would argue that the Tetragrammaton is in fact NOT God but an imposter.

I believe in Jesus. And I believe in Jesus' God.

But I don't have any evidence to suggest that the Tetragrammaton is in fact God. I wouldn't be too quick to say that it's not either. There are a shitload of double-blinds here. Shitloads. Way more than you currently realise.

"Do not be deceived" - Jesus

The major double blind is this:

They wrote these religions, originally and earnestly with good intentions at their core. Rather quickly though, these places become political edifices, no fault of the founders of such traditions but of the power-hungry nature of the natural man.

They then have another crack a few millenium later. Make a new religion. Still with the idea of turning people closer to "the truth". And then that one gets corrupted and becomes sometimes even worse than before.

Each of the religions that the elect release into the world is designed for the time and place and culture of the people of that era. They are not, necessarily designed to be ultimate truths that last forever. They are stepping stones. Leading humanity back to the core of all things.

It's all real. The Kingdom of Heaven. The All-knowing Father (although very doubtfully a guy with a beard and a warmongering fist) and is worth pursuing. It often takes lifetimes, if ever at all, to ascend to that place which, ironically, isn't actually any "higher" than where you are right now, since the Kingdom has always been "at hand".

There are good, powerful forces at play. The world is seemingly falling into an eternal darkness, however, that's really only how it appears on the surface.

There is a war going on. A spiritual war. Against an unseen foe and an unseen friend. This war has existed almost as long as history itself. And it's very real. Not some delusional fantasy story.

I'm not in a place to prove any of this to you. I'm not even in a place to mention who the stakeholders are.

All I can say, is that I have learnt now, through direct experience, that hidden away. Deep deep away from any ignorant eyes of average society, we have groups of both light and darkness that both pull lofty strings that result in the incredible contradictions we often witness.

Humanity will fall into bondage. It must. Pride and ignorance and the defiling of that which is sacred, must needs lead to bondage. This is a natural and irrevocable Hermetic Law. The law of Karma. The law of Cause and Effect.

Nevertheless. After this horrible wake up call everything will be fine. There are terribly devastating weapons held on the good side just as much as on the dark. If not more.

And when those wise forces decide that the timing is correct, the playing field will be reset. And the "grand scale rollout" that Andro mentioned will begin.

But unlikely until after all of the scriptures have been fulfilled.

Afterall "not one jot or one tittle will be removed from the law, until all is fulfilled"
 

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I see God as being of the nature of Good.
I am not defining here what Good is. That'll be a shitshow.

An important perspective is that the human being defenition of good might not be God's definition. For instance I would view Shiva's dance of creation and destruction as "good", however if people are caught in the moment of destruction it might - to them - be perceived as "bad".

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Concerning duality there are good dualities and bad ones.

First of all there is no such thing, in the end it is all singular - in the grand scheme of things - but ignoring that and trying to keep this on "our level" then there are good dualities such as male/female energies or sun/moon or creation/destruction. Then there are bad dualities that I would differentiate as plurality such as left wing/right wing or commie/capitalist and that kind of thing.

Evil is not an absence of good. There is good in all things, there is evil in all things...

A serial killer is evil, but he has the option to be good. Within him lies the possibility to not be a serial killer and in fact Dahmer (famed cannibal) is a very interesting case as he seemed to be a serial killer that was good, but failed to act upon it. He showed remorse and was happy he was caught. Most serial killers don't act like that once they are caught, but he did.

Another example is Bill Cosby. He did a lot for Black culture, he inspired and helped many - esp. children. He was a good guy in many ways but he happened to also be a rapist on the side.

Evil is not the absence of good, rather the unwillingless to act good. And vice versa. Goodness is not the absence of evil, simply that evil is refused to have any influence. With the right circumstances evil could be allowed to "take over"... a good father might turn into a monster if someone does anything to his children for example.

Every human is capable of creation and destruction, it is the microcosm of the Divine and its ability to create and destroy.

In Islam there is a great story about a prostitute (someone destined for hell) that one day saw a thirsty dog and gave it water. In that moment Allah gave her a one way ticket to paradise. Thus it doesn't matter how bad someone is... one act of compassion or kindness can eliminate hundreds of evil acts.

It is never too late to repent if the repentence is true... you cannot fake it. When Thoth weighs your heart he'll fucking know.
 

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I'm not in a place to prove any of this to you. I'm not even in a place to mention who the stakeholders are.

All I can say, is that I have learnt now, through direct experience, that hidden away. Deep deep away from any ignorant eyes of average society, we have groups of both light and darkness that both pull lofty strings that result in the incredible contradictions we often witness.

Humanity will fall into bondage. It must.

I pity these dark forcess. In the grand scheme of things they're nothing. See this.

It doesn't matter how dark something is, the smallest match can break the darkness with light. That's why the concept of Satan or some Devil is so fucking dumb. Such a being has no power at all. The light is too powerful...

Imagine the worst nightmare you ever had. When you wake up the nightmare might remain as a memory, but it is gone. It cannot keep hold of your awareness once you open your eyes. It is not strong enough. It will never be strong enough.

Only if you want it and yearn for it, can it be powerful.

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Pity. Indeed. That's my thoughts now. I've stopped hating humans. We are, for a lack of a better word, talking monkeys or something.

Our enemy, is a billion year old invisible Evil-Angelic force of Hell, of which we do not know it's true nature or origins.

Why bother hating the weak as fuck idiot that gave into it all and followed, like sheep to the slaughter, into the dark fraternity.

And what are you going to do? Turn around and say "nah I don't want to slap that whore dude. It's not nice." You would be a laughing stock. All your pathetic weaselly climb through the ranks of Harvard would be for nothing and lost. It's just a whore? Who cares. 👋

Except.... Now it's happening every weekend. This whore is pretty young. Much younger than the last. Oh well, she's hotter than the last one too 👋

..... 2 years later ........

Do it..... Kill her and you're one of us..... Don't be weak. This world is kill or be killed. Don't be a pussy.
😭🔫


You've signed up to Hell the moment you decided to crawl into some dark hole at the promise of "power over others".

And these idiots never actually expect to be raping and killing children down the line. It's a grooming process. They are just following the orders of their parents or clutching for power. And then it's just a matter of being popular. And then one thing leads to another etc etc.

And don't forget. They beat and fuck THEIR OWN in the ass. So why the hell wouldn't they be beating up and raping others aswell?

The grooming process of the Satan elite is hard-core. It's much more hardcore than what I've coursely laid out here.

It's a demonic force taking over the host of humanity. It's not humanity itself. We are weak and foolish. But not natively hardcore evil.

But we make mistakes. And sometimes when we make mistakes, things happen.

Ejaculation and Bloodshed. These accidents, quickly lead to demonic forces rising out of the earth itself and into humanity.

And I've learnt now what it means to sin really

Everything we class as a sin in the traditional sense, directly exposes a human beings spirit to being infected with parasitic astral beings. In fact, all desire.

The two worlds are so different from one another.

In the physical world, when a person has a desire and goes to fulfill it, we see a human being taking action, and accessing and indulging in some form of luxury.

What that looks like in the astral world, is throngs of animalistic creatures throwing themselves upon the individual in an assault.

We need spiritual eyes. We need true clairvoyance.

Without it, our opinion is total dogshit. Totally inaccurate. Totally an illusion.

I am prepping myself up for my biggest ever self development stints.

Again and again I have the words:

"Worry not what you shall eat or what you shall wear, but seek first the Kingdom"

The Kingdom he is referring to is literally just the astral plane (or probably a higher plane than that, but same shit different frequency)

Yeah. The talking monkey that raped the kid. Poor bloke. Very sad that someone who could have been a brother of humanity was groomed into signing away their soul to dark forces of which there shall never be an escape. Pity I feel is the correct feeling. The very feeling that clearly those fallen brothers are incapable of feeling themselves.

Having said that. Don't think for a second that us, decent human beings are anymore safe than them. Perhaps our darknesses arnt as dark and our debts not as large. But if we still have desire, before we die, then we must needs pay that debt, and you wouldn't believe the rates we are getting fucked on over here.
 

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Now. The dark brotherhoods use Kundalini mostly as their way of reaching the astral planes. They raise the Kundalini to charge and rotate the chakras which gives additional sense organs that allow one to perceive the spiritual world's.

There is another, more pure way, of charging and rotating the chakras. This is through repeated Hermetic meditations. ie: the ground-work offered by either Bardon or Steiner. Please let me know if you are aware of anyone else who should be added to the list of total Hermetic Pros.

So there are a group of dark as fuck wizards in the astral, and there are also groups of wholesome light-cultivators. The good guys.

It's these twos sects, that are the true major players in the world. Everyone else is a pawn in the game. These are the guys who are moving the pieces.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The GOAL is to gain the spiritual eyes to be able to perceive the spiritual word.

Without this ability, you are at ground zero. That's why I was busting Blacks balls earlier about the specifics of his spiritual progress.

It's one thing to have experiences, physical or spiritual, that give us reason to believe certain things.

It's another entirely to just have first-hand access to all information, from having developed the senses to perceive it for yourself in real-time.

Spiritual progress is almost limitless.

You first enter the astral. (Coherently)
Then you learn to move and control yourself there, like a baby learning to walk. They you obtain continuity of consciousness (it's getting lazy and I'm not explaining that one. You're all clever folks, google the definition of continuity please)

But then.... The real deal, is when you bring the spiritual world back to the physical. As a sort of user interface overlay. Augmented reality.

THATS true adept-ship. When you are able to perceive the physical world and spiritual world's simultaneously.

Then nothing is able to be hidden from you. You can perceive everything right to the very core of its being. Read other people's thoughts and emotions in real-time. Communicate with spirits while physically awake and within the physical world.

You can't KNOW if something is CONSCIOUS or not, without this ability. You're just stabbing in the dark or speculating or making an educated guess. Or taking second hand information as fact.

How much of the matter in the universe is physical? Like 15%?

That's how much of the full picture you get without having activated the light body. The blind leading the blind. Only.... That actually the true world leaders are not at all blind. Whether dark leaders or light leaders, each side has FAR more information about the situation than the average human. Both sides have access to the spiritual world's. It is THEIR will that's shaping the narrative of the planet.

Duality. It is everywhere and seemingly absolute within this realm. And when we break this law, very cool things start to happen.

Why is this thread a thing? Why am I talking about all of this?

Well, it's intricately woven into Alchemy in the most profound way of course.

Look to the Arcana of Justice and tell me it isn't so.

Thanks guys for the chat. These little rants really help me to compile and defragment my own understandings. I don't expect it to make sense to everyone but for those of it that it does resonate with, enjoy. I hope you get something practical or inspirational out of at least a little of the never-ending-rant that I share here.
 
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I don't agree. that's what I am trying to say here.

hermaphroditic androgynes are balanced opposites.
like hot and cold. light and dark. yin and yang. masculine and feminine.
I do not believe that good and evil belong to these.
And I do not believe it is true to equate Light and Dark with Good and Evil either.
Good takes.

Truth and deception might be better than good and evil classifications.
Technically only truth exists.

A true act is an act of sincerity without falsehoods, you can truthfully do evil acts and lie (create falsehoods) about good acts.

But due to the anthropolgical nature of morally good and bad deeds, its common for the people who create/evil acts to use falsehoods and deception in order to escape justice and propogate more evil deeds, whereas people who create/good acts need to be noticed by others sincerly or the good deeds can't help a larger demographic of the population.

A universal balance of good and bad deeds is a logistical impossibilty.
Now. The dark brotherhoods use Kundalini mostly as their way of reaching the astral planes. They raise the Kundalini to charge and rotate the chakras which gives addiction sense organs that allow one to perceive the spiritual world's.

There is another, more pure way, of charging and rotating the chakras. This is through repeated Hermetic meditations. ie: the ground-work offered by either Bardon or Steiner. Please let me know if you are aware of anyone else who should be added to the list of total Hermetic Pros.

So there are a group of dark as fuck wizards in the astral, and there are also groups of wholesome light-cultivators. The good guys.

It's these twos sects, that are the true major players in the world. Everyone else is a pawn in the game. These are the guys who are moving the pieces.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The GOAL is to gain the spiritual eyes to be able to perceive the spiritual word.

Without this ability, you are at ground zero. That's why I was busting Blacks balls earlier about the specifics of his spiritual progress.

It's one thing to have experiences, physical or spiritual, that give us reason to believe certain things.

It's another entirely to just have first-hand access to all information, from having developed the senses to perceive it for yourself in real-time.

Spiritual progress is almost limitless.

You first enter the astral. (Coherently)
Then you learn to move and control yourself there, like a baby learning to walk. They you obtain continuity of consciousness (it's getting lazy and I'm not explaining that one. You're all clever folks, google the definition of continuity please)

But then.... The real deal, is when you bring the spiritual world back to the physical. As a sort of user interface overlay. Augmented reality.

THATS true adept-ship. When you are able to perceive the physical world and spiritual world's simultaneously.

Then nothing is able to be hidden from you. You can perceive everything right to the very core of its being. Read other people's thoughts and emotions in real-time. Communicate with spirits while physically awake and within the physical world.

You can't KNOW if something is CONSCIOUS or not, without this ability. You're just stabbing in the dark or speculating or making an educated guess. Or taking second hand information as fact.

How much of the matter in the universe is physical? Like 15%?

That's how much of the full picture you get without having activated the light body. The blind leading the blind. Only.... That actually the true world leaders are not at all blind. Whether dark leaders or light leaders, each side has FAR more information about the situation than the average human. Both sides have access to the spiritual world's. It is THEIR will that's shaping the narrative of the planet.

Duality. It is everywhere and seemingly absolute within this realm. And when we break this law, very cool things start to happen.

Why is this thread a thing? Why am I talking about all of this?

Well, it's intricately woven into Alchemy in the most profound way of course.

Look to the Arcana of Justice and tell me it isn't so.

Thanks guys for the chat. These little rants really help me to compile and defragment my own understandings. I don't expect it to make sense to everyone but for those of it that it does resonate with, enjoy. I hope you get something practical or inspirational out of at least a little of the never-ending-rant that I share here.
How much money do you have?
 

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Now. The dark brotherhoods use Kundalini mostly as their way of reaching the astral planes. They raise the Kundalini to charge and rotate the chakras which gives addiction sense organs that allow one to perceive the spiritual world's.

There is another, more pure way, of charging and rotating the chakras. This is through repeated Hermetic meditations. ie: the ground-work offered by either Bardon or Steiner. Please let me know if you are aware of anyone else who should be added to the list of total Hermetic Pros.

So there are a group of dark as fuck wizards in the astral, and there are also groups of wholesome light-cultivators. The good guys.

It's these twos sects, that are the true major players in the world. Everyone else is a pawn in the game. These are the guys who are moving the pieces.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The GOAL is to gain the spiritual eyes to be able to perceive the spiritual word.

Without this ability, you are at ground zero. That's why I was busting Blacks balls earlier about the specifics of his spiritual progress.

It's one thing to have experiences, physical or spiritual, that give us reason to believe certain things.

It's another entirely to just have first-hand access to all information, from having developed the senses to perceive it for yourself in real-time.

Spiritual progress is almost limitless.

You first enter the astral. (Coherently)
Then you learn to move and control yourself there, like a baby learning to walk. They you obtain continuity of consciousness (it's getting lazy and I'm not explaining that one. You're all clever folks, google the definition of continuity please)

But then.... The real deal, is when you bring the spiritual world back to the physical. As a sort of user interface overlay. Augmented reality.

THATS true adept-ship. When you are able to perceive the physical world and spiritual world's simultaneously.

Then nothing is able to be hidden from you. You can perceive everything right to the very core of its being. Read other people's thoughts and emotions in real-time. Communicate with spirits while physically awake and within the physical world.

You can't KNOW if something is CONSCIOUS or not, without this ability. You're just stabbing in the dark or speculating or making an educated guess. Or taking second hand information as fact.

How much of the matter in the universe is physical? Like 15%?

That's how much of the full picture you get without having activated the light body. The blind leading the blind. Only.... That actually the true world leaders are not at all blind. Whether dark leaders or light leaders, each side has FAR more information about the situation than the average human. Both sides have access to the spiritual world's. It is THEIR will that's shaping the narrative of the planet.

Duality. It is everywhere and seemingly absolute within this realm. And when we break this law, very cool things start to happen.

Why is this thread a thing? Why am I talking about all of this?

Well, it's intricately woven into Alchemy in the most profound way of course.

Look to the Arcana of Justice and tell me it isn't so.

Thanks guys for the chat. These little rants really help me to compile and defragment my own understandings. I don't expect it to make sense to everyone but for those of it that it does resonate with, enjoy. I hope you get something practical or inspirational out of at least a little of the never-ending-rant that I share here.
As an adept, is it possible to send the warriors of Satan back to hell?
 

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How much money do you have?
Not much at all really. I have had the worst 2 years of my life tbh. One financial Trainwreck after another.

I got a very unexpected divorce and a knife in the back. It threw off my mental state and everything just started crashing down. Fear and doubt crept in and it was game over from there.
 

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As an adept, is it possible to send the warriors of Satan back to hell?
I am not an adept. Not even close. And despite how badly I just want to devote my entire life to becoming fit for such an experience... The last two years were more than I was able to bear and it's left me rather shattered now, beyond my ability to piece back together. It's over for me in this lifetime unless some miracle comes and raises my frequency back up to a functioning level.

In regards to your questions, I could only speculate. And I would say yes, and no.

The good do not go around trying to slay the wicked. In fact, both groups are so well hidden that neither one could ever really infiltrate the other to bring it down.

I guess the expectation is that a solar flare will send the world into a big reset. The earth would be incinerated, the magnetic poles will soon flip. This will cause a massive upheaval of land masses as the Earth's rotation begins to slow down and ultimately turn back the other way.

Evils progress has a defined time-limit. But goodness is the default setting and so, we will always get reset back to a place of goodness and liberty in the end. But not before the world's most insane shitshow breaks out.
 

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I'm sorry, but I don't agree with you on any point. There is a big civil war in Africa at the moment, now at this moment when I am writing this there is a total war in 34 countries. As many people die every day as in the whole Ukraine or Israel war.

And then there are idiots like you who still live in a dream world and still think, yes, evil and good should not fight, the evil side no longer makes a secret, we are at a point where Satan makes everything public, and we humans are too stupid to understand that,
 

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You are all idiots in a dream world, you get a slap and beg after another and also pay money for it
 

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As we see others, so we find ourselves. 😉

I really don't know what I said to spark up your little outburst. But no need to apologise for not agreeing with me. I couldn't care less what others choose to believe. I offer my view as an experienced theologian. Nothing more.

But why the sour attitude all of a sudden. What would you have me do that would classify me as not an idiot?
 

Awani

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