Deathlessness

[Kibric]

Hello Y'all

I would like too share my experience with Saint Vallalar.
Some time ago I went to Tamil Nadu in search of Deathlessness. I was invited to take Deekshai which is roughly translated as transmission of Divine consciousness
(Baptizing with Fire).
Those who take Deekshai are known as twice born

Saint Vallalar gave me Deekshai and ever since then I have been practising Penance which is a form of meditation using the eyes.
The goal is to reach Jeevasamadhi which is the beginning stages of converting your body into light (Gnana Deham),
I call it a photonic body at least that's what I predict it will be called in the future

some info on Jeevasamadhi
Please check out the site and all the Saints in Jeevasamadhi
https://soonyata.home.xs4all.nl/jeevasamadhi.htm

Jeeva Samadhi however is entirely different from the other types mentioned above, including Maha samadhi mentioned on another page on this site and can only be achieved by great yogis. It is a very advanced samadhi state closely related to the nirvikalpa samadhi state but then permanent. In Maha samadhi the body will decay over time and the energy will leave the body upon death. In Jeeva samadhi you cannot say the body dies nor can you say it is still alive, however the energy will remain in and around the body as if it were still alive and the body will not decay over time either (or extremely slowly as in some cases). This is a state where Siddhas enters into the samadhi state at their own will after completion of their mission on earth and their mind completely dissolved into the Divine, They stop the functioning of the body and mind.

Incorruptibly of famous Saints is because they are in a state of Jeevasamadhi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorruptibility

We all come from the same Light source (Arut Perum Jothi, also called clear light). During the process of creation through the elements the physical body is formed. It is possible for us to reverse the process and make this physical body pure light, here and now, in this plane. We come from the source so we can be the source.
When we express Love, Compassion, and Bliss we are all connected. We are One because those qualities are the qualities of all souls and also the qualities of the Absolute Eternal Grace Light.
There is only one God which is the Absolute Eternal Light, no other form should be worshipped.
There are no castes, no differences of sex...we are all equal.
One should treat all life as he would treat his own life.
One should not believe in scripture but gain his own understanding and knowledge.
All religions, philosophies, and organizations are false, they are only hiding the truth.
One should ask, “Do I accept death and aging?” If you do not accept this, then do something about it and follow my example."

http://deathlesseducation.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/how-to-do-meditation-or-penance.html

In Siddha teachings the Left eye = Moon and the Right eye = Sun
an interesting parallel in Horus

Horus was the ancient Egyptian sky god who was usually depicted as a falcon, most likely a lanner or peregrine falcon.[9] His right eye was associated with the sun god, Ra. The eye symbol represents the marking around the eye of the falcon, including the "teardrop" marking sometimes found below the eye. The mirror image, or left eye, sometimes represented the moon and the god Djehuti (Thoth).[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Horus
Below is more information on Siddha teachings

There is a small hole of the size of needle tip in the center of the Pupil of the eyes. This hole is covered by Karma as 7 layers.
Soul is present in the center of the head in the place where our two eyes meet internally. The characteristics of the soul is divine light and divine fire. This divine light of soul is displaying itself in our two eyes and this divine light in our eyes is what covered by the layer of Karma mentioned above.
Do Understand clearly the divine light of our soul is not the outside light that we are able to see. This divine light of our soul cannot be induced by any materialistic thing. This can be kindled only by the divine light of other Soul by the way of eyes. This can be done only by a SarGuru.
During Deekshai Sadguru pierces the layer of karma and lits the divine light of our eyes by his divine light present in his eyes. This process is what is called as taking birth again. One who has taken Deekshai is called as Twice born.

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Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it. -Matthew 7:14

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?- Matthew 7:3-5

"The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy, your whole body will be full of light.- Matthew 6:22

In Tamil Nadu Jesus is considered a Siddhar
there's even a book he is supposed to have written in Tamil " The Book of Love "

When thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light... Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness" (Luke 11:34-35). "If therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light."

Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."- Matthew 19:24

coy little basta..

quite recently we've found

mammalian eye exhibits a "spontaneous and visible light-induced ultraweak photon emission."

The light that emanates through the "window of the soul," the human eye, is not "imagined," but real and these biophotons contain energy and information (wave-particle complementarity of Light), capable of transforming our understanding of one another, and ourselves.

I recommend reading it through
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/confirmed-eye-emits-actual-light-biophotons

" Left hand
Right hand
Both hands...
Change!!!
He who eats
with the hand of worship = Penance practise using the eyes
need not be depleted.
The conscious ones = Have Magnetoreception
capable of abandoning sleep = like birds
need not die...
they can live forever." - Tirumular

the retinas in particular have been theorized to serve as magnetoreceptors

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8098713

There's certainly more to the eye... get it ....sigh...

“Whatever a thing is and whatever is its state, wisdom is to see the True thing in it”

 

[Warmheart]

I did read a bit about Ramalinga Svamigal, and his thoughts are a bit similar to those of some other schools of Eastern thought. But then his teaching reveals something highly disturbing (just like many of Eastern teachings).

There is a big, and I mean really really big "IF", which stops my trust and reverence at those teachings at the very start. Those teachings deny very life - they demand from their followers to drop their families, to go live in the woods, etc., etc., etc. Just to get physical deathlessness? So what would be the point in everlasting physical life if you deny it and basically don't need it?

While many points in the teachings can be considered as eternal truth (e.g. God is Love is Light, etc., no questions here), some stink by a very dangerous sectarian thoughts. I would definitely not want to live 70-80 years (which is standard life of those who speak about physically long life, and in my view it is extremely short) in some woods isolated from everyone and everything. I understand that we are all part of One, but personally I'd like to live my life as myself, without dropping my "ego", without disintegrating (?integrating?) myself in some deep Ocean of Eternity - I think such possibility of self-disintegration will always be here as kind of last resort, and I don't understand why this last resort is considered as "eternal life", smells more like total death to me. Nothing to discover about world, just voluntarily drop your 7 bodies of existence and "integrate" (or rather disintegrate) in Eternity.

I don't want to hurt anyone feelings here, I am just sharing my thoughts on this. There is physical suicide, where you kill only physical body. But some such teachings smell like total suicide and death of all your bodies: physical, astral, ether, etc. under guise of eternity.

 

[Kibric]

There is a big, and I mean really really big "IF", which stops my trust and reverence at those teachings at the very start. Those teachings deny very life - they demand from their followers to drop their families, to go live in the woods, etc., etc., etc. Just to get physical deathlessness? So what would be the point in everlasting physical life if you deny it and basically don't need it?

There are traditions that demand those but they aren't Siddhar
and I completely agree

But Vallalaar doesn't demand dropping family or going to live in the woods alone
he always taught that you should be among other people in society
nor do real Siddha teachings
In fact he encouraged people not to do that
He always used to use the example of a shop keeper
who achieved Gnana Deham by doing Penance while he worked
citing that running off to the woods doesn't solve anything

and I don't understand why this last resort is considered as "eternal life", smells more like total death to me. Nothing to discover about world, just voluntarily drop your 7 bodies of existence and "integrate" (or rather disintegrate) in Eternity.

This is just a process to give you " heavenly light body " as the Taoists call it
a new body made of Light, the total opposite of death, complete transcendence of the cycle of birth and death
A True Human Existence as the Siddhas call it

In no way is Gnana Deham (Rainbow light body) (heavenly light body) suicide or destruction of any body
astral or otherwise

The point is not just overcoming physical death
but returning to a True Human existence free from the cycle of birth and death
Siddhas believe that this Human experience called life we are living is not a True Natural State for a human
they believe we were once beings made of Light and that is our True existence

Thanks for sharing your thoughts
you make some good points about some eastern traditions

 

[Warmheart]

Vallalaar doesn't demand dropping family or going to live in the woods alone
he always taught that you should be among other people in society
nor do real Siddha teachings

Probably. I was judging by description of his life from Wikipedia and it was very ascetic.

The point is not just overcoming physical death
but returning to a True Human existence
Siddhas believe that this Human experience called life we are living is not a True Natural State for a human
they believe we were once beings made of Light and that is our True existence

There is truly something unnatural in current state of human's life. But I think we miss a bridge, a bridge of knowledge, which would allow to agree with such position about some other True existence. Perhaps you have some sources which would tell more about the practices in this teaching? I think some additional work should be done before working with "eye rays". If you aren't bound by secrecy, how did you receive Deekshai from Saint Vallalar? According to various sources, Saint Vallalar vanished in a violet fog in his locked room and was never seen after.

I feel like being on the edge of high cliff before falling down when I read some teachers who tell about Brahmacharya, about leaving cycle of life and death, etc. Nowhere yet I found as precise teaching as in books of Sri Satyananda Sarasvati, and he is precise to the point: do this and that, and you achieve that. He also described a lot of false conditions of Samadhi, when people think they suddenly know all and received enlightenment, but in fact they only caught a glimpse of much greater force. Does Saint Vallalar's teaching have to do anything with Kundalini, or totally skips any working with it?

 

[Awani]

Those teachings deny very life - they demand from their followers to drop their families, to go live in the woods, etc...

I agree with this. The whole outlook and concept of trying to escape Samsara is a trap in itself I think, and perhaps for the select few it works (who knows). But I have - through my own pilgrimage - come to the conclusion that the way OUT is IN.

In other words EMBRACE Samsara. Look at the deaths and rebirths as waves, and that your "soul" is floating on these ways in/out of different lives... almost like caught in a whirlpool. BUT if you learn to surf then you can RIDE the waves.

When you ride Samsara, then you are done.

The way out is in.

 

[Schmuldvich]

In other words EMBRACE Samsara. Look at the deaths and rebirths as waves, and that your "soul" is floating on these ways in/out of different lives... almost like caught in a whirlpool. BUT if you learn to surf then you can RIDE the waves.

When you ride Samsara, then you are done.

I love this!

Anyone can be thrown around and thrashed by a wave, but very few can actually ride the wave and have a higher experience. This person is not God--they cannot stop or steer the wave, nor has this person defeated the wave (they are still being driven/taken away by it...) but they are certainly having a more wonderful and fulfilling experience than the person being thrashed around violently under the wave.

Well put! Great analogy!

 

[Awani]

I love this!

Thanks.

Anyone can be thrown around and thrashed by a wave, but very few can actually ride the wave and have a higher experience. This person is not God--they cannot stop or steer the wave, nor has this person defeated the wave (they are still being driven/taken away by it...) but they are certainly having a more wonderful and fulfilling experience than the person being thrashed around violently under the wave.

That's a great addition/clarification, Bro.

 

[Kibric]

Perhaps you have some sources which would tell more about the practices in this teaching?

There are 28 books by him but most of them haven't been translated from Tamil yet
here's a PDF in english with precise details on the teachings

Education for deathlessness

Spiritual Education For Deathlessness | PDF | Karma | Soul

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They are a funny lot , visiting them and talking with them is the best way to learn their teachings
They used to rely on oral teachings face to face but are slowly catching up

how did you receive Deekshai from Saint Vallalar? According to various sources, Saint Vallalar vanished in a violet fog in his locked room and was never seen after.

I went to Tami Nadu at my lowest point , spent all my money on plane ticket to get there, and was directed to him by the man who translated the PDF above ,
Saint Vallalar is very much alive

Does Saint Vallalar's teaching have to do anything with Kundalini, or totally skips any working with it?

No his teaching is not Kundalini oriented

a bit more detail on Siddhas

The Tamil Siddhas are outside system-builders; their whole technique is to jolt people out of their intellectual ruts, and their conventional, barren, morality. They laid before their audience an abrasive, shocking, uncompromising message exhorting them to shed their delusions, pretensions, and empty orthodoxies in favor of an intense, direct, personal confrontation with truth.

They are the "un-tethered", non-conformist, spiritual aspirants, yearning for a direct and natural approach to, and a more intense experience of, the absolute truth. They reject the value and prestige of the scriptures, which remain the privilege of the few in Hinduism. The Tamil Siddhas may be considered as "scripture less" or "bookless" or nirgrantha school of Hinduism, as they are detached from any scriptural authority. The Tamil Siddhas belong to a non-conformist, "counter-tradition". What is meant by "counter tradition" is more than that "which opposes tradition". It is the "tradition which opposes". The Siddhas challenged many of the accepted beliefs and practices of the Hindu society and thought. They denounced idol and ritualistic worship and petitioner prayers as fetters holding back the soul from liberation

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They are very different from Brahmins and Yogis

He also described a lot of false conditions of Samadhi, when people think they suddenly know all and received enlightenment, but in fact they only caught a glimpse of much greater force

" One who follows the path of Yoga is a Yogi. The final Attainment in this path of Yoga is Samadhi only,
One who follows the path of Gnana is a Gnani. The final Attainment in this path is union with Supreme Lord (Supreme infinite Light) "

There are many stages after Samadhi , over 40, and your right many spiritual teachers stop at Samadhi thinking " they suddenly know all and received enlightenment "

 

[Warmheart]

There are 28 books by him but most of them haven't been translated from Tamil yet
here's a PDF with precise details on the teachings

Guess I have another language to learn after Saknskrit. I will definitely read this book.

There are many stages after Samadhi , over 40, and your right many spiritual teachers stop at Samadhi thinking " they suddenly know all and received enlightenment "

It seems I was a bit quick to judge it. I agree with what Awani wrote above, and it seems that nowadays there are a lot of weird Eastern teachings around, which are centered at various obscure philosophy with very anti-life goal with little to no real practice.

It will be also interesting to see how teachings of Saint Vallalar and his followers correlate with other Eastern teachings.

 

[Luxus]

Kibric

So it all boils down to this eye yoga you do daily, I mean that is the actual process to achieve this deathlessness. So is the theory that whilst you are doing this eye yoga you are feeding/building-up the light body (astral body)? So it is not physical deathlessness right? And what about the ageing process how does this fit into this equation? I mean if a person is physically ageing it would be foolish of him to think that somehow he is going to be physically deathless.

I used to do martial arts from a young age so I always heard about people who were somehow going to use their chi to live longer but the truth is these techniques don't work, most these people look every bit their age.

 

[Kibric]

So is the theory that whilst you are doing this eye yoga you are feeding/building-up the light body (astral body)? So it is not physical deathlessness right? And what about the ageing process how does this fit into this equation? I mean if a person is physically ageing it would be foolish of him to think that somehow he is going to be physically deathless.

The practise (eye yoga/called Penance) changes the human bodies biochemistry, putting it into a natural state of suspended animation
stopping aging all together or aging very slowly over a long time .Then starts converting the blood and bone, the physical body into Light, leading to Physical Immortality

When you reach the suspended animation state your consciousness can leave, wander around and practise Prakasysm (metempsychosis)
Many choose this instead , very few complete the whole process (Gnana Deham)
Sometimes their friends come along wrap them up and mummify them, centuries later we find the bodies they gave up in caves
it is the origin of Sokushinbutsu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokushinbutsu

Some Siddhas try to keep the place they practise (eye yoga/Penance) very private
so others don't mummify them thinking they are dead, interrupting the process or their Jeevasamadhi state
The famous story of Christian Rosenkreuz in his preserved condition is very similar

I have been researching the changes in Brain chemistry that occur when someone practises (eye yoga)
and wondered if the Jeevasamadhi state and process brought on by the (eye yoga/Penance) is using the bodies natural radiation
to accelerate the evolution of organic matter (us/the physical body) resulting in a being composed of photons (Gnana Deham)
http://soonyata.home.xs4all.nl/deham.htm

 

[Luxus]

Kibric,

Firstly I would like to know what the senior people within the group looked like. Did they look 10 years younger then they actually were or did they look their age. I myself have met teachers who will getup in front of a whole class and say practising such and such will slow the ageing process and extend life. I have found that these people almost always look their age and don't live any longer then anyone else.

It is not that I doubt such techniques did exist in the past but rather I realise we live in the kaliyuga when such knowledge (including Alchemy) has become distorted or lost.

Where can I read more about the actual eye yoga practice?

 

[Warmheart]

Kibric,

Firstly I would like to know what the senior people within the group looked like. Did they look 10 years younger then they actually were or did they look their age.

I like how you ask it straight to the point

I am also interested in seeing actual eye yoga practice.

 

[Luxus]

I like how you ask it straight to the point

I am also interested in seeing actual eye yoga practice.

"You will know them by their fruits"
Matthew 7:15-20

 

[Kiorionis]

I used to do martial arts from a young age so I always heard about people who were somehow going to use their chi to live longer but the truth is these techniques don't work, most these people look every bit their age.

Most likely because they didn't understand how to sublimated jing into chi, and then to turn their chi into vitality.

 

[Luxus]

Most likely because they didn't understand how to sublimated jin into chi, and then to turn their chi into vitality.

Even the grand masters and lineage holder of the various taoist sects do not demonstrate bodies several years younger then their age, I looked for such people but I could not find them...apparently they are all up mountains or hiding in forests

Yes such things did exist in the past but it is like Alchemy, the truth is nobody has produced the philosophers stone for hundreds of years. We live in the kaliyuga, the winter of spiritual knowledge.

 

[Schmuldvich]

Most likely because they didn't understand how to sublimated jin into chi, and then to turn their chi into vitality.

Can you expound on this a little, or share a link that explains this more?

 

[Kiorionis]

Even the grand masters and lineage holder of the various taoist sects do not demonstrate bodies several years younger then their age, I looked for such people but I could not find them...apparently they are all up mountains or hiding in forests

I would assume it's because the sect has very specific dogma and traditional practices, which do not incorporate alternative viewpoints. You go to X sect to learn X things, then you have to go to Y sect to learn Y things.

the truth is nobody has produced the philosophers stone for hundreds of years. We live in the kaliyuga, the winter of spiritual knowledge.

How true is this?

 

[Kiorionis]

Can you expound on this a little, or share a link that explains this more?

Certainly

Jing, which I spelled wrong in the first post, is responsible for building up the body and procreation. It is the most dense of the Three Treasures in the Taoist tradition, and is compared to the immature "Golden Elixir". The only problem is that it readily putrefies itself. In essence, the starting matter of this tradition is the end matter, although it goes through various transmutations along its involution depending on how often it is worked, and what it is worked with. This depends on the awareness of the practitioner and at which 'point' the sublimation stops. Its superficial sublimation is pretty simple, you just circulate Jing through the main psychic channels of the human body. This will energize it through repetition to create chi. This is what most traditions will teach. The physical energy is able to move through the psychic channels because there is an overlapping 'blueprint' in order to maintain coherence.

The correct sublimation of Jing, in order to create vitality, occurs by the addition of the "external alchemical agent". This external alchemical agent is the Macrocosmic substance collected and used in the sublimation of Jing through the same approach as the superficial sublimation. This time it creates a 'generative force' which will sublimate into Vitality. The purefactive force of jing is transfered onto the Macrocosmic alchemical agent.

The same can be applied to the Chi in order to create Vitality. Or applied to Chi in order to create Shen -- spiritual vitality.

I've written about it before here:

Samadhi - The Red Body

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[Schmuldvich]

Certainly

Jing, which I spelled wrong in the first post, is responsible for building up the body and procreation. It is the most dense of the Three Treasures in the Taoist tradition, and is compared to the immature "Golden Elixir". The only problem is that it readily putrefies itself. In essence, the starting matter of this tradition is the end matter, although it goes through various transmutations along its involution depending on how often it is worked, and what it is worked with. This depends on the awareness of the practitioner and at which 'point' the sublimation stops. Its superficial sublimation is pretty simple, you just circulate Jing through the main psychic channels of the human body. This will energize it through repetition to create chi. This is what most traditions will teach. The physical energy is able to move through the psychic channels because there is an overlapping 'blueprint' in order to maintain coherence.

The correct sublimation of Jing, in order to create vitality, occurs by the addition of the "external alchemical agent". This external alchemical agent is the Macrocosmic substance collected and used in the sublimation of Jing through the same approach as the superficial sublimation. This time it creates a 'generative force' which will sublimate into Vitality. The purefactive force of jing is transfered onto the Macrocosmic alchemical agent.

The same can be applied to the Chi in order to create Vitality. Or applied to Chi in order to create Shen -- spiritual vitality.

Awesome! Thank you for sharing.

This is a concept I have been aiming to further develop. My chi (...or jing? not sure) is almost overflowing! I would like to learn how to harness, master, and develop it better but I am very ignorant in these basic areas.

 

[Kiorionis]

Awesome! Thank you for sharing.

This is a concept I have been aiming to further develop. My chi (...or jing? not sure) is almost overflowing! I would like to learn how to harness, master, and develop it better but I am very ignorant in these basic areas.

My pleasure!

I might have some suggestions. If you bring your awareness to the center of the jing or chi in question, where would you place it within the body?

 

[Schmuldvich]

I might have some suggestions. If you bring your awareness to the center of the jing or chi in question, where would you place it within the body?

My forehead ("third eye"), which I believe is more developed than the other chakras in my body. My crown chakra is fairly developed as well, but not to the degree of my third eye. As far as other chakras go, most are underdeveloped (comparatively) in my body, with the exception of my sacral chakra which is possibly my most sensitive chakra but not most powerful. When upset or concerned, this chakra flares with energy (jing? chi?). I'd love for you to help me! Ideally I would be interested in small mental exercises I can do that will further develop a good jing/chi flow and balance!

 

[Avatar]

Schmuldvich

What I understand and have experienced is.

Jing, chi, shen, xin.
This roughly translates to body, breath, mind,blood.

Chi is breath and is the motive force of xin. Breath and blood.
The secret of tai chi is influencing the blood through movement. Breath and blood allow the nerves to work, this produces another known as nerve force, or the activity of the nerves. This force is most easily taken hold of through the power of contraction. Contraction of nerves is known as strength. A secret of old martial arts is you have full power over contraction at any given point in time. Frog technique of the shaolin. I do not train in this. Yet am able to use it as you all are easily. I can exert the full force of my entire body instantly. It also trains physical vitality greatly. As boxing is a match of endurance, preserving strength. In this method you could exert your full force consistently for a period of time. If fully exerted I can last 5 minutes.
If trained you can last longer. Isometrics train this specifically. Hence why gymnasts on the rings are so strong. NOW! To the subject.

The third eye is the mind.
Yet we all have minds.
How can the mind ever open?
It is the opening of the nervous system.
What is meant by This?
It is release of subtle tension in the nervous system.
Subtle tension released means the flesh no longer holds that sensory experience. The easiest is tactile, taste, smell.
The hardest is the eyes and ears.
When the senses flow freely, then it is attention which commands the senses. You see the tree yet feel it flow, taste it's leaves, smell it even though you are far from it.
I have not released my eyes nor ears. Those are extremely hard to release, but honestly I have never focused on doing so.
It is not my goal.

Samadhi is mental control. Mental. Control is control of attention. For the only part of the mind itself that you can control is attention. Attention is foundation.
Through control of attention you can do many feats. Including releasing subtle tension from the body.
Remember you are a giant body.
The copper wire and electricity are one.
Now now.
On longevity there is a rarely talked about practice.
Why is it rarely talked about? Simple. It's mastery is not often had.
The body ages and dies.
You cannot halt age. Thus how is death prevented?
There are two potential ways. Theoretically you could enter a form of stasis. I have heard of this yet am not skilled it in. A form of hibernation slowing age. Like extreme calorie restriction.
The second method is that which has been mentioned on and off by every other ascetic. Yet non claim mastery of it. That is rejuvenation of the body. Rejuvenate the body. It is an ongoing process. See. It is like a flash fire. Like lighting a line of gun powder. It ignites quickly and then is done.
Rejuvenate over and over again and you have longevity. When done correctly the entire bodies skin turns red due to extreme vaso dilation. I know the ascetic sivananda spoke about this a bit. An it was the path of tummo mentioned by Naropa of Buddhism. Yet this inner fire is no visualized heat. It is a heat brought on by pranayama practice. To be more direct, physiological coercion.

 

[Kiorionis]

My forehead ("third eye"), which I believe is more developed than the other chakras in my body. My crown chakra is fairly developed as well, but not to the degree of my third eye. As far as other chakras go, most are underdeveloped (comparatively) in my body, with the exception of my sacral chakra which is possibly my most sensitive chakra but not most powerful. When upset or concerned, this chakra flares with energy (jing? chi?). I'd love for you to help me! Ideally I would be interested in small mental exercises I can do that will further develop a good jing/chi flow and balance!

Well first off, the chakras are on a different frequency from jing and chi. Like Avatar says, they are much more physical energies. Chakras are less dense.

So far my only suggestion is to research into Mantak Chia, and his practices for opening the Microcosm orbit. Practicing this specific breathing exercise will harmonise the chakras and help you begin building awareness of jing.

@Avatar
Very interesting post. Concerning the first theoretical approach to preventing death by entering stasis. I have heard that this technique is different than what most think. If you have different understanding I'd love to hear it.

From what I've heard, the stasis of the physical body is achieved after creating the immortal fetus, or ascending body. The body is then put into stasis but the consciousness while traveling is still linked and uses it as a fixt point for life. The downfall to this approach is that the body shrivels with atrophy (the brain and spinal cord apparently remain healthy). If someone returns from such a practice, after many years, I doubt they would live long thereafter.

But that is just heresay

 

[Avatar]

Mentak chia is a good read. Yet is method is faulty an will not cause rejuvenation. Though he is correct in saying the reproductive organs are part of it.
Yet his method is faulty. An the method is key.
Chakras are jing,chi,shen,xin.
Body,breath,mind,blood. Cut the blood flow off to an arm, it will go numb this mind cannot enter it (cannot feel it). You have no strength can not move it. Given enough time it will fall off.

There are two cranial nerves that descend from the brain into the body. The spinal and vagus nerve. The vagus nerve splits into two branches and becomes the sympathetic and parasympathetic system.
What's more important for life? Spinal nerve or vagus?
Vagus is the answer.

Chakras are partially mental.
It is like this. Can you pop your back like you pop your knuckle?
If you can, then your chakras can still be opened further.
When the chakras on both left and right side are fully open you will no longer he able to pop your back.
For all tension will be gone. All tension being gone the mind flows through the body freely without resistance.
The mind is not only in the head, the chakras are the aspects of the mind that exist in the body.
That is why the are called centers or consciousness. The truth is the mind is the nervous system.
That is why even an ant had consciousness even though it's brain is so tiny. Brain is simply junction box. A tree has no brain yet reacts. Even though the reaction is slow.
You are, one big brain.

Immortality is not stasis. Immortality is biological rejuvinatio of all the systems. An invigoration.
If asked i will give the best 3 methods for releasing subtle tension from the nervous system.

As for stasis. That is actually Easyer than the former rejuvenation.

Stasis is 3 fold.
First all subtle tension must he released from the nervous system. This is the prime requirement for both practices.
Second Samadhi must be mastered.
Samadhi is extremely easy to practice. People enter temporary lower levels of Samadhi constantly. Samadhi is an extreme exersice of a foundational function of the mammalian brain.
The next part is tricky though. See clearing the nervous system is a pain unless you are dedicated. Samadhi is a pain unless you have a little dedication.
It is the leaving the body to roam while in stasis that is the trick. This is done by the abused word kundalini.
Kundalini comes through manipulating the vagus nerves two ganglia. NOW kundalini only comes in a semi trance state. Trance is another word for Samadhi.
Samadhi is the technique to sustain and control kundalini.
This is why control of breathing is important while entering Samadhi. For it is breathing that makes the condition for kundalini.
Now. As you enter deeper states of Samadhi breathing slows. So gradually breathing slows. And thus slowly by slowly, the heart beat and breathing slows down. Kundalini will appear before stasis ever happens. You must trek on. The deeper the Samadhi the slower the heartbeat. The deepest forms of Samadhi surpass the deepest states of sleep. You are basically dead at this point. Yet you are awake because of kundalini.
Oh. Description I am so sorry. Kundalini is like an intense pressure/buzzing in the entire being that rises up. When it hits the head, you will pop out of the body. It is not like astral projection. You do not need to be asleep at all. In fact the first time you will most likely be confused no realizing you are still laying down.
I do apologize. I am not the most well written person.
So I apologize if my explanations jump paragraphs.