Our family said no flat out and it caused our life to totally reshuffle and rearrange itself. Ultimately for the better it seems. I will say, and this is not to prove anything but just a sharing of my own experience that once I /we dropped the bitterness towards "them" (The participants) life started to turn back around and we found our feet again.
The analogy I just got was if a cow(my self in this analogy)jumps a fence to avoid the slaughterhouse is it fair to blame the cows who did not have the courage , foresight or stamina to jump the fence along with me once I realize that although I am free from the farmer I now need to provide for myself?
We lost our income and house, it's easier to blame others for it but honestly I feel bad for them, because like Job we can be reconciled as God wills it but sometimes we need to be tested and learn lessons.
Turning the other cheek is a big one especially when the average person,though perhaps deceived and misinformed has no I'll intent towards the common man and did not go along to cause us harm.
Some measure of forgiveness is appropriate I think. Also many species can cohabit a forest, sometimes one will discontinue their existence when a condition changes...
Just food for thought, I have viewed all this from multiple perspectives and I suspect this perspective will continue to evolve.
I will never consent to being experimented on or having my genes edited.
I do like you Jimmy, but there's a naivety in you coupled with long standing religious indoctrination which just isn't going to help you going forward imho.
There are a couple of things raised in your analogy there.
Firstly the situation was never as clear cut as there being 2 groups of people/cows where one group headed for slaughter and the other headed for the fence. What we actually had were millions of self-righteous pompus conditioned imbeciles telling other people that:
1. They MUST go and get vaxxed because the government and medical industry says so
2. They must go and get vaxxed to do there duty and be a respectable citizen and decent member of society
3. They must go and get vaxxed because by not doing so they were putting everyone at risk (a total lie)
4. They must go and get vaxxed because that would stop the further spread of the virus (another total lie)
In addition the same moronic people who were parents pressured or forced their young children to get vaxxed for the same false reasons.
It didn't stop there sadly.
You then had cows/people in the USA armed with guns calling for non-vaxxers to be shot or jailed for life. Believing they were so right about the vaccine that it was a total life and death matter for society and non-compliance should be met with execution.
Then you had the wider establishment trying to impose totalitarian control on non-vaxxers, desperately trying to get them excluded from society. No vax no job and other BS. No vax no passport, no travel, no shopping and so on. You look back now and you see how sick and disgusting the whole bagatelle of these establishment cabal members actually are.
The other issue you raise is the age old issue of does ignorance equate to no blame?
So if someone gets behind the wheel of a car and drives the wrong way up a one-way street and collides with another car and kills someone, is that person absolved if they were ignorant of what a one-way street is? The answer is of course an emphatic NO and this is seen in most systems of law in most countries. Ignorance is not an acceptable excuse.
Thus every moron who forced the vax on someone else is complicit in their murder or harm if indeed that person subsequently died or suffered a serious adverse reaction.
Every moron who went out shouting at non-vaxxers and contributed to the mass propaganda media campaign to dupe the public, is equally complicit in the atrocities.
All of them should be held to account. Doesn't matter that they were totally ignorant of the facts and instead just sat on their pompous arses not doing any research. The facts WERE ALL OUT THERE. They were readily available.
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccine trial papers were available to download at the touch of a button. No excuses. Those papers showed that the vaccines made less than 1% difference in real relative terms and that there were numerous severe side effects occurring during the trials including Bell's Palsy cases and other reactions. Those papers stated clearly and unequivocally that the trials were NOT COMPLETE but were ongoing, and set to run for 2 years. They stated that MORE PEOPLE were needed in the testing trial, for a LONGER PERIOD OF TIME to establish SAFETY and EFFICACY.
"Assessment of long-term safety and efficacy for this vaccine will occur, but it cannot be in the context of maintaining a placebo group for the planned follow-up period of 2 years after the second dose. These data do not address whether vaccination prevents asymptomatic infection; a serologic end point that can detect a history of infection regardless of whether symptoms were present (SARS-CoV-2 N-binding antibody) will be reported later. Furthermore, given the high vaccine efficacy and the low number of vaccine breakthrough cases, potential establishment of a correlate of protection has not been feasible at the time of this report."
They also said:
"Safety and immune response data from this trial after immunization of adolescents 12 to 15 years of age will be reported subsequently, and additional studies are planned to evaluate BNT162b2 in pregnant women, children younger than 12 years, and those in special risk groups, such as immunocompromised persons"
Well f**k me ! So they didn't have the data needed for young children and pregnant women or those in special risk groups. But they rolled out the vax anyway and the gov't media machine pressured them all to get vaxxed in the end.
Added to those 2 significant vaccine trial papers were literally dozens and dozens of peer-reviewed studies that showed that HIGH NUMBERS OF THE POPULATION already had immunity to Covid gained from past bouts of colds, Flu and other Coronaviruses. They were NEVER EVER at serious risk of infection.
The there were numerous medical studies and papers showing that up to 80% of Covid sufferers didn't even have any symptoms and many/most wouldn't even know they had it.
Ignorance (and mindblowing stupidity and pompous self-righteousness) are NOT EXCUSES here. The facts were all out there.
Those people who didn't bother to research and are now dead, no excuse, they killed themselves.
Those people who didn't bother to research and forced others to follow their moronic actions are culpable and complicit, a clear and present danger to the rest of society and should be held to account. No parent should be able to force or pressure a child to take a vaccine or other medical treatment.
Those people who didn't bother to research and are now severely disabled for life, no excuses, they harmed themselves.
Those people who even today still maintain that non-vaxxers are a danger to society and should be shot or jailed should themselves be shot or jailed for their utter stupidity and ignorance. As Awani rightly states, come near me or my loved ones in that respect and I will treat you like someone coming at me with a knife and take the appropriate defensive action.
As a final point, I advise you to forget this entire notion of a God testing people. It's patently absurd.
Do you really think that allowing an ageing sexual predator to molest a 5yr old girl is an acceptable way for God to test the girl or the man? Do you really think that the genocide of millions through false media campaigns is an acceptable way for a God to test people? What the hell kind of God are you worshipping?
