Behold the Green Dragon!

[Willis]

Behold the real Green Dragon! Urine Prime, it comes from the earth. Smells like sulphur. This was after a calcination at 1400F! When you add 7x or more distilled mercury it turns Osiris green just like the Egyptian god.

 

[Lux Natura]

Behold the real Green Lyon!

If you calcined in stainless steel, that turns many salts greenish.

The "green lion" mentioned in Arabic texts originally referred to a sulfuric acid made from iron sulfate or copperas. Itself it would not devour the sun, unless another acid was added - ultimately usually nitric acid, or some precursor that would produce nitric. There are some other ways to "enliven" the green lion that is not the nitric route as well. The Arabic chemists were mainly clear about this, but once the Europeans got their hands on it, like all other things, it become heavily entrenched in the symbolism, especially due to its relationship to sulfate ores and mines and all that.

 

[Seraphim]

Thanks for sharing Willis <3

 

[Willis]

you're welcme Seraphim! any questions please ask

 

[ghetto alchemist]

any questions please ask

How about some instructions for how you made it?
Make it clear enough so other people can replicate.
Maybe also tell us why anyone would even want to replicate....
Eg: is it simply green powder forgazi? Or does it have any particular applications?

When you add 7x or more distilled mercury

Surely you're not actually using mercury?
Don't you know that stuff is toxic AF?
So if you didn't use actual mercury, then why are you using that word in the year 2026 when you're supposedly embarking on a project to save humanity?
If you end up tricking people to actually distill metallic mercury, you might end up achieving the exact opposite.

Major Humanitarian Mission, Created to Save Ourselves, to Save All Humanity, Save All Nature, Save EVERYTHING.

 

[Willis]

Its calcined earth from the urine prime. You must calcine it in a fully sealed luted crucible at temperatures near 2000F for hours. black ash turns White and smells like sulfur. This is a key step to making the stone. "Mercury" is alot of things but in this case its the clear water distilled from fermented urine.

eventually when it is complete i will be posting a full recipe. It can be done in under 5 months.

 

[Willis]

If you calcined in stainless steel, that turns many salts greenish.

The "green lion" mentioned in Arabic texts originally referred to a sulfuric acid made from iron sulfate or copperas. Itself it would not devour the sun, unless another acid was added - ultimately usually nitric acid, or some precursor that would produce nitric. There are some other ways to "enliven" the green lion that is not the nitric route as well. The Arabic chemists were mainly clear about this, but once the Europeans got their hands on it, like all other things, it become heavily entrenched in the symbolism, especially due to its relationship to sulfate ores and mines and all that.

I used a white porcelin crucible inside a bigger one, double sealed with clay. I just repeated the process today and got the exact same result.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

"Mercury" is alot of things but in this case its the clear water distilled from fermented urine

I'm calling BS on that.
No "mercury" is not "a lot of things".
"Mercury" is mercury.
But thanks for clarifying that in this case when you said "mercury", that you were simply talking about water.

is it simply green powder forgazi? Or does it have any particular applications?

Since you didn't mention any applications for your green powder...then I'm assuming that it is indeed a fugazi.
That's cool...I like fugazi's.

Also, having a sulfur smell from your urine is unremarkable if you've been eating sulfur rich foods like garlic or asparagus, also some medications can cause it too.
But just letting you know that it can also be a sign of disease such as cystitis or liver problems [see HERE].

 

[Lux Natura]

Also, having a sulfur smell from your urine is unremarkable if you've been eating sulfur rich foods like garlic or asparagus, also some medications can cause it too.

You don't even need to go that far - there will always be sulfur in varying concentrations in urine, as a byproduct of normal metabolic activity, even if you don't eat sulfur rich foods.

 

[Seraphim]

For anyone new reading this, according to Philosophers:

"Mercury" is alot of things

Correct

"Mercury" is mercury

Incorrect

 

[ghetto alchemist]

"Mercury" is alot of things

Correct

"Mercury" is mercury

Incorrect

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[Jimmy Rig]

For anyone new reading this, according to Philosophers:

"Mercury" is alot of things

Correct

"Mercury" is mercury

Incorrect

Correct.

Depends what we want it to do.. hence the various mercuries.
And then there is the other side of it; the intelligence aspect (mercury/mind)
The spirit of truth part of it,
The hermes/raphael part of it..

Generally if it communicates and transmits things; regardless of the sphere. If its a sort of deliverer/messenger than it falls under the mercurial grouping, or the spirit of intelligence/communication.

I think someone wrote best to follow the nature rather than the name when we are reading alchemical works.
IMO..

 

[Illen A. Cluf]

I think that "Mercury" can have many different meanings, depending on which alchemical text you read. There is the assumption that most past alchemists were writing about the same understanding of alchemy. That is the biggest mistake that anyone studying alchemy can possibly make.

 

[Jimmy Rig]

Yep. Its not a static word by any means hence the confusion around it.
Varying levels of understanding of authors, twist on words etc.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

It's 2026. Not 1526 when decknamen were used because things like oxygen and ether hadn't even been discovered by the muggles yet.

IMO if you using the word "distilled mercury" in place of "distilled water" in 2026...then that's just straight out dishonesty.
BTW need I remind you all that it was me who got him to admit the fact, not any of you.

Anyway...this Willis guy is a total waste of time...it's already proven.
If y'all want to cosy up to him because you think he's some kind of sage, then send him a PM....the reason he came here in the first place was to poach labor for his personal project.
If you're quick you can still get in there before he gets himself banned and the window closes.

 

[Seraphim]

<3 thanks for sharing everyone

"Water is the first Matter of all things which are born or generated in the World: for certainly 'tis manifest unto thee, that nothing grows or receiveth increase without the four Elements; therefore whatever is Elementated by the virtue of the four Elements, it must of necessity be, that the original of all things that are born or grow, should be Water: Yet ought you not to understand, this before spoken of Water, but of that Water which is the Matter of all things, out of which all Natural things are produced in their kind.
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I will discourse of the first Matter, which Philosophers call, the fifth Essence, and many other Names they have for it, by which they may the more obscure it. In it for certain are four Elements pure in their Exaltation: Know therefore, that if you would have the fifth Essence, Man, you must first have Man, and you must have nothing else of that Matter; and see that you observe this well.

This I say, that if you desire to have the Philosophers Stone, you must of necessity first have the fifth Essence of that same Stone, whether it be Mineral or Vegatative; joyn therefore Species with Species, and Gems with Gems, and not the one without the other.
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As an Infant in the womb of its Mother, decoction of temperate heat helping it, turneth the Flowers into its nature and kind, that is, into Flesh, Bloud, Bones, and Life.
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You see therefore for what reason our Water is called, the first Matter and Seed of Metals, viz. because of it all Metals are generated."

A Treatise of Mercury

"But, my dear Son, observe what now I tell thee, and what information concerning this point the Philosophers left behind them in their Books; viz. that this Water is not to be prepared by any heterogenous means whatsover in the whole World, but only by Nature, with Nature, and out of Nature.
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Of which preparation of this Water, none of all the Philosophers hath written more clearly nor better than Raymond Lullie where he doth plainly enough declare, that after the Putrefaction, Separation, Distillation of the Philosophical Spirit of Wine, the Spiritual Water is to be mixed again and distilled with its own Earth, that it come over with it; he declareth also, how this Philosophical Wine or Menstruum is fortified and actuated with its own Salt.
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And Bernhard in his Practica saith: the Fountain is as a Mother to the King, for she doth attract him, and causeth him to dye, but the King by her means riseth again, and uniteth himself so firmly unto her, that no man can hurt him. And therefore the Philosophers say, although Gabricius be costlier, dearer, and more esteemed by the World than Beja, yet he alone can bring no Fruit.
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This Virgin and blessed Water of the Philosophers named in their Books with many thousand names; they call it Heaven, Celestial Water, Celestial Rain, the dew of Heaven, May-dew, Water of Paradice, parting Water, Aqua Regia, a corrosive Aquafort, sharp Vinegar, Brandy, Quintessence of Wine, growthful green Juice, a growing Mercury, a viridescent Water, and Leo Viridis, Quick-Silver, Menstruum, Bloud, Urine, Horse-piss, Milk, and Virgins Milk, white Arsnick, Silver, Lune, and juice of Lune, a Woman, Feminine Seed, a sulphureous vapouring Water and Smoak, a fiery burning Spirit."

Hydropyrographum Hermeticum

"Its Various Names

This spirit in its fiery form is called a Sandaraca, in the aerial a Kybrick, in the watery an Azoth, in the earthly Alcohoph and Aliocosoph. Hence they are deceived by these names those who, seeking without instruction, think to find this Spirit of Life in things foreign to our Art. For although this Spirit that we seek, on amount of its qualities, is called by these names, yet the same is not in these bodies and cannot be in them. For a refined spirit cannot appear except in a body suitable to its nature. And, by however many names it be called, let no one imagine there be different spirits, for, say what one will, there is but one spirit working everywhere and in all things.

That is the spirit which, when rising, illumines the Heavens, when setting incorporates the purity of Earth, and when brooding, has embraced the Waters. This spirit is named Raphael, the Angel of God, the subtlest and purest, whom the others all obey as their King."

The Book of the Revelations of Hermes Concerning the Supreme Secret of the World

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