Astral Spirit Symbol

Andro

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Sounds promising!

Did you also follow the advice of Cyliani and harvest a good quantity of "astral spirit" in advance?

You wrote earlier that you started with several different matters... Is only one of them showing the signs?

Either way, good luck!
 

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Yes, this work needs a lot of "astral spirit."

Since only one of them shown the signs, and since it would be very difficult to have "astral spirit" for all of them,
I focused only in this one. And only this began to show the albedo: Some white points in the middle of the flask.

I will observe in what manner this color will expand in order to know if this also match the signs ascribed by the philosophers.

Thank you Andro!
 

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hi Via,
This is exciting stuff.
Long process, isn't it?

You said you'll take the sulfur from Sol / Luna, but what about the pulp precipitate from the matter itself?
 

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Hi @Triune One!

Yes, a long and tiresome process, but very exciting too.

Apparently, the pulp precipitate is result of the eagles. I am not sure if the matter will precipitate it, which is the
sulfur of the own matter. If it precipitates it, I pretend to try it also, according to the RH´s path.

But, in order to abreviate the process, I am planning to proceed according to Cyliani´s instruction, since RH´s path
implies another long process to redden it, while Cyliani´s path seems to be more short.

Regards,
V. V.
 

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Sure, as you wish, of course, you are the operator.
Another consideration is also that the pulp matter which precipitates during the eagles
can lead one to the universal sulfur, versus the specified sulfur from Sol or Luna...
still no small accomplishment, but there is certainly the appeal of the universal.

It is true that the path is shorter with the sulfur from sol / luna.
no need for the 2 extra eagles.
no need for the possibly lengthy process of reddening the universal sulfur.
 

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Yes, it is true. The appeal of the universal is much greater than that specified. The intention of moving on to the particular tincture is only to provide material resources and philosophical proofs, while investigating and proceeding in obtaining the universal sulfur. The conjunction with the solar sulfur aims the transmutation powder, while the universal sulfur could aims the attaining of the elixir of life.
 

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one can make a transmutation powder with the universal stone. one just needs the vulgar gold at that stage to make the medicine for metals. As you know, there is also a very powerful elixir that one can make with the specified stone, but it is not as healing as the universal stone.
 

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I am glad to announce that the albedo begins to show its little lunar rays. I am very happy about the possibility that Cyliani's path is genuine and that I am in the right path.

Out of interest have you seen the "peacock's tail" at any stage thus far?
 

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Hi @Pilgrim !

So far I haven't seen any colors that suggest the colors of the rainbow. In fact, I wondered if I would see them, but looking closely at Cyliani's description, he only mentions the Peacock's Tail after the conjunction of Mercury with Sulfur, in the degree of Jupiter to be more specific. And, in this, ICH also seems to agree.

However, RH and Zadkiel specifically mention that before reaching full whiteness, which has not yet occurred with my matter, some colors appear, especially green, but not in a pronounced way, having a short duration compared to subsequent operations (perhaps the conjunction).

I will be attentive to any changes in colors and the ways in which they manifest themselves. I am taking photographs of all the stages so that, if I ever succeed, I can have them as proof that the philosophical signs have been fulfilled and, also, as I imagine, I can present them as evidence to two or three witnesses whom I intend to present.

Regards,
V. V.
 

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Good luck Via Veritatis!
I would be careful with the Nimph though, just sayin'. :)

By the way thank you for your work on the alleged Golden Chain Part 3.
 

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Note that ICH and Hermetic Recreations are quite obscure, and their descriptions of the subjects do not seem to me, in some aspects, to agree with the descriptions given by Cyliani and Zadkiel, even the latter borrowing his procedure from Hermetic Recreations, a fact that leads me to believe that, apparently, the first pair deal with the same subject, while the other two deal with another subject.
I think they're all using the same matter, the same "Adamic Earth". Cyliani explicitly mentions it can be found everywhere, although in various forms. Most authors agree that it is of a metallic/mineral nature, that is to say, partaking of both natures and yet somehow being neither. What a mindfuck!

Gerbant (a Cyliani follower), in his letter to "Mr. Magain in Metz ", while appearing to be very open, is cleverly veiling everything with cyphers within cyphers.

an immediate dissolution of the matter, as mentioned in the symbolism of the fight between Basil Valentine's two combatants.
I believe this refers to the so-called "short/dry path" of Fulcanelli. It can indeed be dangerous, toxic, violent and even explosive, even if we add the moderating middle-matter. This is NOT the Old Way of Hermes Trismegistus, who explicitly wrote (in the Emerald Tablet) that the separation must occur GENTLY. Additionally, this path (so I've heard) is not as powerful as the classical, gentle one.

There's also the so-called "Royal Path", using one matter only, without any added solvents or "secret fires" that are "taken from elsewhere than from the matter" (Pontanus). We grab one (chemically simple) material and take it to the toilet to make the first separation. The material is so constipated, just the efforts to defecate will trigger an Out-of-Body experience.

Although the underlying principles are always the same, in all paths.

The Alchemic Test by Fire has nothing to do with Centigrade or Fahrenheit.

Anyone that thinks that the Alchemic Test by Fire has something to do with heat is so far removed from the Great Work that I strongly doubt they will ever see a drop of Quintessence.
I've already commented on this very strange claim, see my quotes below:

Black claimed that QE should not be heated above 80℃. While this may be true for the "Soul" part of this alchemical trinity, it is a complete falsehood WRT a "fully baked" QE, composed of the two more volatile Principles fixed on their own pure, inert, fire-proof/refractory Earth body, rendering the QE fixed and fusible yet stable even at high temperatures.
A "fully baked" QE can also be volatile, but will always be fully homogeneous and distillable as one. The claim that a true, complete QE can "split" above a certain temperature is ridiculous. It either remains fixed as one thing or fully sublimes as one thing, leaving nothing behind.