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Triune One

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Hi Triune One!

Yes, I am truly passionate about Cyliani's path, which I consider my compass on my journey. It seems to me that the path of Hermetic Recreations and ICH follows the most universal humid path, while Cyliani and Zadkiel seem to follow only the less universal humid path, in accordance with the doctrine of Theophilo.

As passionate as you are about Cyliani's path, so am I.
I derived so much from Zadkiel and Hermetic Recreations. Those are plain as day, whereas some of Cyliani and ICH remains a little shrouded for me.
I see Zadkiel's path as being quite universal, where he explicitly explains how to obtain the Philosophical Sulphur as the precipitate at the end of each eagle. I didn't think it was less Universal. What makes you say so? Hermetic Recreations also reveals this in a similar if not identical fashion, and you did attribute Hermetic Recreations as being the most universal humid path.

Up until a little while ago, before I had discovered these texts and this "Quartet" path, I thought the universal path to the stone was completely out of reach as no one mentioned anything about it of any detail. Thank goodness for these texts.

As for it being in accordance with the doctrine of Theophilo, I have no knowledge of this.
Can you elaborate what that is and where one might find writings on it?

Great to know that you are also following this path. What stage of the work are you at?

I have studied this path for many years.
I am just now waiting for some of the earthly matter (vase) to begin the Herculean task.
I am really going to just try for a proof of concept to see if I can get
A) Nigredo in the formation of the mercury phase in the first eagle.
B) mercury salts manifested.

You might say I am just now taking the first step of this journey of 1000 miles,
a journey I have walked 1000 times in my mind. :)
 

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As passionate as you are about Cyliani's path, so am I.
I derived so much from Zadkiel and Hermetic Recreations. Those are plain as day, whereas some of Cyliani and ICH remains a little shrouded for me.
I see Zadkiel's path as being quite universal, where he explicitly explains how to obtain the Philosophical Sulphur as the precipitate at the end of each eagle. I didn't think it was less Universal. What makes you say so? Hermetic Recreations also reveals this in a similar if not identical fashion, and you did attribute Hermetic Recreations as being the most universal humid path.

Up until a little while ago, before I had discovered these texts and this "Quartet" path, I thought the universal path to the stone was completely out of reach as no one mentioned anything about it of any detail. Thank goodness for these texts.

As for it being in accordance with the doctrine of Theophilo, I have no knowledge of this.
Can you elaborate what that is and where one might find writings on it?

Very happy to find someone who has the same feeling for Cyliani.

Regarding the Quartet, although the procedures of the four authors are similar, with bifurcations regarding the type of sulfur, it seems to me that the initial matters are different. Note that ICH and Hermetic Recreations are quite obscure, and their descriptions of the subjects do not seem to me, in some aspects, to agree with the descriptions given by Cyliani and Zadkiel, even the latter borrowing his procedure from Hermetic Recreations, a fact that leads me to believe that, apparently, the first pair deal with the same subject, while the other two deal with another subject.

There is a lot of confusion regarding the terms most universal, universal, less universal, wet path and dry path, but I extract these differentiations between the authors of the Quartet, obviously, according to my understanding, from the differentiations made by Teophilo in his "Treatise on the Analysis of the Art of
Alchemy" which can be consulted here (https://pt.scribd.com/document/274454809/Teofilo-Tratado-de-La-Analisis-Del-Arte-de-La-Alchemia).

I have studied this path for many years.
I am just now waiting for some of the earthly matter (vase) to begin the Herculean task.
I am really going to just try for a proof of concept to see if I can get
A) Nigredo in the formation of the mercury phase in the first eagle.
B) mercury salts manifested.

You might say I am just now taking the first step of this journey of 1000 miles,
a journey I have walked 1000 times in my mind. :)

Great. It's never late to start. It also took me a long time to start this work. I know I won't get it right right away, but the failures I will have can teach me the true path. I wish you success with your subject and may you soon receive the art prize.

I am available so that we can follow together, guided by this polar star, on this trail of footprints that are almost erased and that contain several traps.

Regards!
 

Triune One

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Very happy to find someone who has the same feeling for Cyliani.

Regarding the Quartet, although the procedures of the four authors are similar, with bifurcations regarding the type of sulfur, it seems to me that the initial matters are different. Note that ICH and Hermetic Recreations are quite obscure, and their descriptions of the subjects do not seem to me, in some aspects, to agree with the descriptions given by Cyliani and Zadkiel, even the latter borrowing his procedure from Hermetic Recreations, a fact that leads me to believe that, apparently, the first pair deal with the same subject, while the other two deal with another subject.

There is a lot of confusion regarding the terms most universal, universal, less universal, wet path and dry path, but I extract these differentiations between the authors of the Quartet, obviously, according to my understanding, from the differentiations made by Teophilo in his "Treatise on the Analysis of the Art of
Alchemy" which can be consulted here (https://pt.scribd.com/document/274454809/Teofilo-Tratado-de-La-Analisis-Del-Arte-de-La-Alchemia).

I never heard of this book.
I appreciate the author's breakdown of the different methods.
Thank you.

By the way, this book is in Spanish.
In case you didn't know, Google translate can translate any PDF from any language into any language.
For you Anglos out there, download it in PDF.
then go to Google translate. Select the Document tab.
Upload document. Select your preferred language, and tada!

What the alchemists of old would do for what we have today at our fingertips (literally).


Great. It's never late to start. It also took me a long time to start this work. I know I won't get it right right away, but the failures I will have can teach me the true path. I wish you success with your subject and may you soon receive the art prize.

I am available so that we can follow together, guided by this polar star, on this trail of footprints that are almost erased and that contain several traps.

It is very encouraging to share this path with you.
I will be in touch and please do the same.

muito amor para você meu amigo.
:)