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Merci beaucoup! It's such a curious book. Raphael, Zadkiel, very high names tho. (funny coincidence that the more practically involved pages are missing. Luckily some other copies are available online)
C'est un plaisir!

Oui, it's a curious book.
One of my favorite books actually.
When I found it, searching online, around 7-8 years ago, I thought it was Christmas.
What a gift!
It brings some elements of the Quartet Path that much more into focus.
 

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What do you think it differs from the other texts?
These books all give good ideas tho, about the several works (three rotations), and also hint to preliminary work.

Jean Julien Champagne wrote some comments on the Cyliani Work, according to him, it can be divided in:

-First work: Solve. It's all a play involving "black earth" and astral spirit imbibitions and dryings, all happening in a crucible very little heated. What is obtained is fermentation and putrefaction.
The water is changed into earth which donates a whitish powder (Air) containing Mercury.

-Second work: Coagula. Same kind of repetitive operations using this separated Air. This will free a fixed earth, Souffre, from which in following work is needed. Each operation gives a whiter Mercure and counts as one eagle.
Finally the last eagles should give a reddening of the powder.

-Third work: mixing one part of saved Souffre and four parts of Azoth (for the red work use red powder) this is going to give the first Medicine. This third part of the Work needs constant help of the Universal Spirit.

(More detailed and precise infos are to be found in french bibliography and on the web thanks to the great dedication of Archer, and more.)

Fulcanelli often quoted Cyliani, the eagles of Philalethes, and also wrote about Christophorus aka Offerus who carried the Saviour of this World through a River. Offerus is anagrammed to Souffre, and it could hint to the Soufre crossing the river of Azoth, a (possible) nice link to this lineage as some suggested.
 

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What do you think it differs from the other texts?

Clarity - it exposes new clues about the Quartet path.
For this, you need to study and have some handle on the other three.
Les Recreations Hermetiques.
ICH - Old and True Natural Path
Cyliani - Hermes Unveiled

These books all give good ideas tho, about the several works (three rotations), and also hint to preliminary work.

Jean Julien Champagne wrote some comments on the Cyliani Work, according to him, it can be divided in:

-First work: Solve. It's all a play involving "black earth" and astral spirit imbibitions and dryings, all happening in a crucible very little heated. What is obtained is fermentation and putrefaction.
The water is changed into earth which donates a whitish powder (Air) containing Mercury.

-Second work: Coagula. Same kind of repetitive operations using this separated Air. This will free a fixed earth, Souffre, from which in following work is needed. Each operation gives a whiter Mercure and counts as one eagle.
Finally the last eagles should give a reddening of the powder.

the first work is Solve and Coagula.
they go together.
they are not different works. That's confusing.

in the first work, the astral spirit is mixed with the matter (the earth) via many solve and coagulas, and a white salt is obtained which IS the Philosophical Mercury.

During these Eagles, (which is a number of solve and coagulas until putrefaction of the matter)
a dark precipitate falls. This is the matter that will be prepared to become the Philosophical Sulphur.
This has barely been spoken anywhere and points to the Universal path, which, up until not too long ago, was barely even mentioned.
-Third work: mixing one part of saved Souffre and four parts of Azoth (for the red work use red powder) this is going to give the first Medicine. This third part of the Work needs constant help of the Universal Spirit.

this is a little mixed up.
See Les Scholies at the back of Les Recreation Hermetiques.

(More detailed and precise infos are to be found in french bibliography and on the web thanks to the great dedication of Archer, and more.)

Fulcanelli often quoted Cyliani, the eagles of Philalethes, and also wrote about Christophorus aka Offerus who carried the Saviour of this World through a River. Offerus is anagrammed to Souffre, and it could hint to the Soufre crossing the river of Azoth, a (possible) nice link to this lineage as some suggested.
That is an excellent anagram - offerus is souffre, which is sulfur. excellent find there.
and offerus is - of FER us, which is iron.
Also, this has been discussed on other threads in this forum -
what is it that carries something across a river?
A ferry. Again, with the Fer.
 

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Just reporting what Champagne wrote in his notes. I guess he had some valuable experience in matter alchemy, so it can be a plus checking them.

But as for the FER in offerus, what means OFUS then?
 

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Just reporting what Champagne wrote in his notes. I guess he had some valuable experience in matter alchemy, so it can be a plus checking them.

But as for the FER in offerus, what means OFUS then?

i don't think it means anything except the other letters needed for the anagram to make souffre.
 

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(More detailed and precise infos are to be found in french bibliography and on the web thanks to the great dedication of Archer, and more.)
Fulcanelli often quoted Cyliani, the eagles of Philalethes, and also wrote about Christophorus aka Offerus who carried the Saviour of this World through a River. Offerus is anagrammed to Souffre, and it could hint to the Soufre crossing the river of Azoth, a (possible) nice link to this lineage as some suggested.
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That is an excellent anagram - offerus is souffre, which is sulfur. excellent find there.
and offerus is - of FER us, which is iron.
Also, this has been discussed on other threads in this forum -
what is it that carries something across a river?
A ferry. Again, with the Fer.
Hello everyone
Triune One i am total agree with your decode
NOW ABOUOT
IRON MARCASSITE ANTIMONY AND RAW MATERIAL OF THE WORK OF CYLIANI of FULCANELLI of the ANCIENT ALCHEMISTS of the RC ETC

NOW on iron and / iron Marcassites and their understanding of the role of material in the work I would like to return to the post of extreme interest by my friend All Cuff which I reproduce in full below. All Cluf post fo thread Cyliai n #296 of 6 Jan 2023

NOW let's read carefully THIS POST IS REALLY OF EXTREME IMPORTANCE OF THE Cyliani thread post posted by the ALL CLUFF FRIEND and we will find that in the post it is revealed in a magnificent and striking way what the ancients actually hid behind the drawing of the antimony symbol which was in in reality the symbol for concealing the Marcassite/Iron and this enigma of the ancients in the post is clearly explained and clearly revealed that in the text of the Rosy Cross entitled : Thirteen Secret Letters Pertaining to the Great Secrets of the Universal and the Particular of the Golden and Rosicrucian

This is an RC text as you read in the extremely important post because it explains in detail that the antimony symbol was actually a deliberate cover to indicate the Marcassite nodules, round poles present in the coal deposits, see some photos of it attached below and the the route of how to work the Marcassite, the iron as read in instruction RC etc is well exposed and in the aforementioned text the indispensable and preliminary secret phase is indicated (almost always omitted by the ancient alchemists) of the exposure of the matter the nodules Marcassite balls such as the magnet to attract the SM and to impregnate them and decompose them in wet (nb and also Glauber also talks about this in his text title
The Preparation of the Sweet Oil of Vitriol see about the istruction of this the link below and also in this forum we had addressed this methodology if not I'm also Andro, I talk about it in some posts) and then the text continues with all the subsequent operations to work with this material impregnated by the SM with the processing of this liquefied Marcassite with the long way method etc and in the text they are all very well indicated various operational phases (on this I put a link to the full pdf of the 13 RC letters)

And subsequently the same enigma and misdirection with the antimony symbol to hide the iron Marcassite is equally found in Fulcanelli's texts in which (together as I have already said with other paths and different subjects also.. with material animal.. ) the iron Marcassite path is undoubtedly the primary one and in fact if we carefully reread the Fulcanelli's texts and the various posts of the Cyliani thread and of the short dry path (ars brevis) thread written by his friend All Cluf in which the subsequent passages of Fulcanelli's work are also indicated some about, the 2 salts to be added to the iron Marcasite, and also some about the 'helper to reduce detonation in the crucible the eagles etc etc

NOW rereading Fulcanelli carefully with this excellent basis of these posts it becomes clear to find in the remains of Fulcanelli as the primary route of the iron Marcassite

Way of Marcassite way of the iron which is hidden in many remains of the ancients under the symbol of antimony and in confirmation of this see on iron Fulcanelli's multiple references to pure Swedish iron and the colors of the various extractions of iron and the various elaborations he cites on iron (to contrast it just put the word iron in the search function of the file Fulcanelli's books)
to confirm this, see the RC instruction which indicates in its post All Cluf in the 13 letters RC of which the pdf I attach below
Now from these important confirmations of the texts of the RC and the ancient alchemists on Marcassite/Iron as one of the materials for the work it is undoubtedly necessary to further focus on Marcassite/Iron as the material with which to begin the work our focus of research and our experiments

my best regard Alfr
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Thirteen Secret Letters Pertaining to the Great Secrets of the Universal and the Particular of the Golden and Rosicrucian

Compenium of Alchemical Processes
at page 35 of this pdf there are text of Glauber The Preparation of the Sweet Oil of Vitriol

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Hello everyone
Triune One i am total agree with your decode
NOW ABOUOT
IRON MARCASSITE ANTIMONY AND RAW MATERIAL OF THE WORK OF CYLIANI of FULCANELLI of the ANCIENT ALCHEMISTS of the RC ETC

NOW on iron and / iron Marcassites and their understanding of the role of material in the work I would like to return to the post of extreme interest by my friend All Cuff which I reproduce in full below. All Cluf post fo thread Cyliai n #296 of 6 Jan 2023

my best regard Alfr
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Beautiful picture there Alfr.
Thank you for writing and sharing your thoughts.
I do recall you have a strong amore with Marcasites. It is beautiful, isn't it?

Well... if you read this thread, you will see, @Andro just offered a response to the riddle of the symbol of the cross.
This thread HERE
He asked the question, what is the symbol for Vinegar, or Acidum.

OK. Yeah. Very very nice. Thank you Andro.
Love it. Super clear.

here are the symbols.
acidum-pic.jpg

acidum-pic2.jpg.png
another pic for acidum.

Picture-vinegar-cross.jpg

and a picture of vinegar.

When marcasite breaks down from the exposure to the atmosphere (but not exposed to the sun or washed away by the rain)
it breaks down, via "Pyrite decay" into:
When exposed to humid air, pyrite reacts with oxygen and water to create iron sulfide (the rust), corrosive sulfuric acid and harmful sulfur dioide gas.

(I wonder if this internet site didn't make a mistake by stating - iron sulfide, instead of iron oxide for the rust)
corrosive sulfuric acid - oil of vitriol...

In a mine, 30 years standing, the sulfurous vapors would meet the gur, and other fluids, and begin forming vitriols.
it would be possible to get acidic waters just dripping, right on the spot, all ready to be harvested.
Cut right to the chase.

I do also very much appreciate @ghetto alchemist's take on this -
HERE
The oxide of the metal.
the oil of vitriol.
the harmful sulfur dioxide gas must be the breath of the dragon Cyliani mentions.

Do they have marcasite nodules around where you live Alfr?

p.s. Andro's post, that I mentioned up above, has some very advanced shit.
I've read it twice and plan on reading it another 10 times or so.
 

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This thread HERE

OK. Yeah. Very very nice. Thank you Andro.
Love it. Super clear.

p.s. Andro's post, that I mentioned up above, has some very advanced shit.
I've read it twice and plan on reading it another 10 times or so.
I edited down that post within my legitimate 24 hour editing window.
 

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Hello everyone
Triune One i am total agree with your decode
NOW ABOUOT
IRON MARCASSITE ANTIMONY AND RAW MATERIAL OF THE WORK OF CYLIANI of FULCANELLI of the ANCIENT ALCHEMISTS of the RC ETC

NOW on iron and / iron Marcassites and their understanding of the role of material in the work I would like to return to the post of extreme interest by my friend All Cuff which I reproduce in full below. All Cluf post fo thread Cyliai n #296 of 6 Jan 2023

NOW let's read carefully THIS POST IS REALLY OF EXTREME IMPORTANCE OF THE Cyliani thread post posted by the ALL CLUFF FRIEND and we will find that in the post it is revealed in a magnificent and striking way what the ancients actually hid behind the drawing of the antimony symbol which was in in reality the symbol for concealing the Marcassite/Iron and this enigma of the ancients in the post is clearly explained and clearly revealed that in the text of the Rosy Cross entitled : Thirteen Secret Letters Pertaining to the Great Secrets of the Universal and the Particular of the Golden and Rosicrucian

This is an RC text as you read in the extremely important post because it explains in detail that the antimony symbol was actually a deliberate cover to indicate the Marcassite nodules, round poles present in the coal deposits, see some photos of it attached below and the the route of how to work the Marcassite, the iron as read in instruction RC etc is well exposed and in the aforementioned text the indispensable and preliminary secret phase is indicated (almost always omitted by the ancient alchemists) of the exposure of the matter the nodules Marcassite balls such as the magnet to attract the SM and to impregnate them and decompose them in wet (nb and also Glauber also talks about this in his text title
The Preparation of the Sweet Oil of Vitriol see about the istruction of this the link below and also in this forum we had addressed this methodology if not I'm also Andro, I talk about it in some posts) and then the text continues with all the subsequent operations to work with this material impregnated by the SM with the processing of this liquefied Marcassite with the long way method etc and in the text they are all very well indicated various operational phases (on this I put a link to the full pdf of the 13 RC letters)

And subsequently the same enigma and misdirection with the antimony symbol to hide the iron Marcassite is equally found in Fulcanelli's texts in which (together as I have already said with other paths and different subjects also.. with material animal.. ) the iron Marcassite path is undoubtedly the primary one and in fact if we carefully reread the Fulcanelli's texts and the various posts of the Cyliani thread and of the short dry path (ars brevis) thread written by his friend All Cluf in which the subsequent passages of Fulcanelli's work are also indicated some about, the 2 salts to be added to the iron Marcasite, and also some about the 'helper to reduce detonation in the crucible the eagles etc etc

NOW rereading Fulcanelli carefully with this excellent basis of these posts it becomes clear to find in the remains of Fulcanelli as the primary route of the iron Marcassite

Way of Marcassite way of the iron which is hidden in many remains of the ancients under the symbol of antimony and in confirmation of this see on iron Fulcanelli's multiple references to pure Swedish iron and the colors of the various extractions of iron and the various elaborations he cites on iron (to contrast it just put the word iron in the search function of the file Fulcanelli's books)
to confirm this, see the RC instruction which indicates in its post All Cluf in the 13 letters RC of which the pdf I attach below
Now from these important confirmations of the texts of the RC and the ancient alchemists on Marcassite/Iron as one of the materials for the work it is undoubtedly necessary to further focus on Marcassite/Iron as the material with which to begin the work our focus of research and our experiments

my best regard Alfr
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M02280_3699.jpg



Thirteen Secret Letters Pertaining to the Great Secrets of the Universal and the Particular of the Golden and Rosicrucian

Compenium of Alchemical Processes
at page 35 of this pdf there are text of Glauber The Preparation of the Sweet Oil of Vitriol

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Attraction, like this?

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@Andro, you had posted somewhere... on this thread or on the "Putrefying gold the easy way" - somewhere, there has been a lot of cross talk across different ongoing threads, which i don't mind, just can't find it -
you said:

The acid has a cold fire and the
alkali has a hot fire.

I would have thought it to be the opposite.
the alkali is a fixed earth. Earth is cold.
The acidum is, as you said, an intermediary, between the "heavens" and the earth.
It is thus more hot fiery than the cold alkali.

Do you agree? Perhaps you just mixed those two up.
Or do you see it differently?
How would explain the alkali being a hot fire vs the acidum which is a cold fire?
 

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Recreations said:
It dissolves and fixes at the same time, for it stems from the union of the two fires in opposition to each other, although having the same origin. The first is an acidic and cold fire; it dissolves and produces fermentation. The second is alkaline and hot; it produces putrefaction and fixes the compound. This is why B.V. at the end of his Twelve Keys, warns you to carefully distinguish the cold from the hot in the application of your fires.

It is not however that the fermentative heat comes from the alkali rather than from the acid, since it is only a simple effect of a process, as you must have noticed at the beginning of this treatise, but because the presence of this alkali determines it and preserves it during putrefaction.

12 keys: http://www.levity.com/alchemy/twelvkey.html

There's also mention in the scholies of Recreations (if you don't own it then get it, very important book) that is quite enlightening and shapes my understanding of why the particular labels of hot and cold to the particular inner/central fires in the matter.
 

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12 keys: http://www.levity.com/alchemy/twelvkey.html

Theres also mention in the scholies of Recreations (if you dont own it then get it, very important book) that is quite enlightening and shapes my understanding of why the particular labels of hot and cold to the particular inner/central fires in the matter.

Thanks for that @Philosophical.
Yes, love the Scholies at the end of Les Recreations. Part of the Quartet Path we've been discussing here.

Can you tell me where you see in Les Scholies the particular labels of hot and cold to the particular inner/central fires in the matter?
 

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I would like to share what I believe to be the objective symbol for the manifested astral spirit.

What I mean by that, is the simplest possible representation of the entire process in its entirety. @Triune One was soooo close to getting this on his first attempt.

I feel the logical precession for the symbol of the manifested astral liquid is an equalaterial triangle (facing up like a pyramid) with the sign of nitre in the middle.

What I find rather profound about this symbol is that, if you view it as a pyramid with a device in the middle. It is a completely valid representation.

However if you view the symbol through the eyes of high magic, you have the summoning triangle (manifestation) and the electric/magnetic fluids in union. Again, perfectly representing the manifestation of SM with zero superfluous lines.

Nothing need be added. Nothing can be taken away. I will understand if not many people really understand this. Highly logical people are not the norm, however even if you can't see the empirical validity of my claim, you can most assuredly feel it intuitively.

And that's what I'm saying about this symbol. It is both logical and intuitive.

Can anyone please argue this? I really am curious if it is possible to find a symbol that more fully and simply represents the entire foundational principal.

This is my relative opinion of what a logically objective symbol for manifested spirit would look like.
 
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I would like to share what I believe to be the objective symbol for the manifested astral spirit.

What I mean by that, is the simplest possible representation of the entire process in its entirety. @Triune One was soooo close to getting this on his first attempt.

I feel the logical precession for the symbol of the manifested astral liquid is an equalaterial triangle (facing up like a pyramid) with the sign of nitre in the middle.

What I find rather profound about this symbol is that, if you view it as a pyramid with a device in the middle. It is a completely valid representation.

However if you view the symbol through the eyes of high magic, you have the summoning triangle (manifestation) and the electric/magnetic fluids in union.

Can anyone please argue this? I really am curious if it is possible to find a symbol that more fully and simply represents the entire foundational principal.

This is my relative opinion of what a logically objective symbol for manifested spirit would look like.

Triangles concentrate the astral spirit towards the center from the SM being generated along the edges. Thats why tr3b are triangle shaped because the triangle is necessary to focus the SM onto the magnets for the antigrav effect.
 

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I apologize for my ignorance. What is tr3b microwatt? And how do you know that the SM is pushed to the centre?
 

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I apologize for my ignorance. What is tr3b microwatt? And how do you know that the SM is pushed to the centre?
tr3b are the triangle ufos that people see sometime. many believe that they are built by the government. because of the illuminati symbol they are saying that the universal intelligence manifest in the middle of a triangle.
 

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Microwatt. What makes you believe that the energy moves inward?
 

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Because thats what my experiments showed me. Here was how I did it. I made one cardboard triangle 8 inches on a side put it in a freezer with a cup of water on top. there was another identical cup with the same amount of water. next to it off the pyramid as a control. the triangle ice showed remarkable bubble formation while the control did not.
 

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Thanks for that @Philosophical.
Yes, love the Scholies at the end of Les Recreations. Part of the Quartet Path we've been discussing here.

Can you tell me where you see in Les Scholies the particular labels of hot and cold to the particular inner/central fires in the matter?

In all honesty I feel a strange reluctance to spell it all out. It does not directly mention the hot/cold labels but helps us understand why, that is in the part I've already quoted. It is in very plain language in the book. I'd be happy to discuss more when you find your own answer to the question you are seeking to understand and we can compare notes so to speak.
 

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In all honesty I feel a strange reluctance to spell it all out. It does not directly mention the hot/cold labels but helps us understand why, that is in the part I've already quoted. It is in very plain language in the book. I'd be happy to discuss more when you find your own answer to the question you are seeking to understand and we can compare notes so to speak.
Sure. I'd love to compare notes.
I wasn't, however, wanting you to spell it all out.
I meant just to ask which quotes you were referring to... if you could refer to those.
If that also brings up the feeling of reluctance, no problem at all.
I've read that book dozens of times. I wanted to know what you were referring to about those concepts.
 

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This is one of the most used representations of the "Astral Spirit" in alchemical texts: Spiritus Mercurii Glyphs.jpg (Spirit of Mercury)

Although there are many ingenious methods to render a "Mercurial" or "Astral" Spirit, there are two primary fundamental approaches:

One is Corporification, which is basically a Condensation of the "intangible" Volatile, usually employing a Magnet/Medium.

The other is Retrogradation, which is basically the subtilization of the Gross Mineral Salt "back" to its Mercurial state.

It basically depends on which end of the pencil we are using.

The "Astral Spirit" is also sometimes named an "Aerial Spirit", which can add even more layers of confusions, because:

By "Air", it is not necessarily the atmospheric air that the alchemical authors have in mind, although it can definitely also refer to common air, depending on the context. And yes, the common air is an abundant source of "Astral Spirit", because it is the most accessible intermediary between "Heaven" or "Fire" and the usable Form we require, which is the Form of "Water". It's worth noting here, that the Alchemical Authors often speak of the Forms rather than of the Elements. Therefore, "Air" indicates the Gaseous state, while "Water" is indicative of the Liquid state. And the gaseous state ("Air") is much more conductive to the initial Magnetic Attraction & Corporification of the aforementioned Spirit. Additionally, "Air" can also refer to a Salt elevated to a high degree of subtlety and volatility. Moreover, solid state matters (salts/minerals/etc.) are often seen by Alchemists as "coagulated Air", which can add even more confusion.

We must also study the multiple meanings of the "seasons", of "following the course of the Moon" and "pointing to the North". The Moon is also associated with the Cold Central Fire, as detailed in previous posts. And Spring is ruled by Aries (Mars), Taurus (Venus) and Gemini (Mercury). But autumn is ruled by very the same "planets" in the classical model: Virgo (Mercury), Libra (Venus) and Scorpio (Mars). And the North can be a Cardinal direction, but it can also refer to the Astrological Ruler of North, as well as to the "North Star" in its actual Form Factor, such as a star-shaped marcasite, for example. Or even the star-like shape of the anus, also known as "The End of the World", which is literally located "between two mountains" and from whence comes a "stone that is rejected", from the roots of the "Hollow Oak". And then there's also the geo-political allegory of "traveling to both Indies", meaning East and West, meaning Mars and Venus, the so-called "Parents of the Stone".

We have multiple avenues of research here, and the good news is that one interpretation doesn't invalidate the other, as long as the underlying principles are observed.

Finally, it's a good idea to remember that in Alchemical nomenclature, it's ultimately ALL about the Salt. It can be the most fixed one, or the most volatile, or anything in between, but it's still all about the "salt". For example, a Salt whose Specific Fixing Sulfur Principle has been "burned away" or "neutralized" will eventually, after some iterations, become a "water" (a liquid at room temperature), but it is a non-aqueous "mineral" or "metallic" water, it is now a veritable "Mercury". And in the words of Cyliani: "The Universal Medicine is a magnetic salt that serves as a covering for a strange energy, universal life."

I think one of the problems of Alchemy aspirants is that, even if they can be bothered to actually fucking read, they don't read attentively, and then they go on wondering about further elucidation on topics that are already well-described in the relevant literature. And even so, many of us read the classical texts looking for confirmation of a specific path or method that we ALREADY have in mind. This is a mistake IMO. As the Principles are better understood, which is after all not so difficult for the subtle, dot-connecting and principle-oriented mind, we can apply these understandings in Practice. And a mind that's not clouded by religious indoctrination is even sharper, because then the allegories in your favorite "scriptures" can be seen with more clarity. On the other hand, it's also a mistake to delay the Practice, because the principle-based practice will the reveal to our eyes (and noses) the states of matter and the different roles those states play in our work.

IMHO (In My Hermetic Opinion)
 

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This is one of the most used representations of the "Astral Spirit" in alchemical texts:
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(Spirit of Mercury)

Although there are many ingenious methods to render a "Mercurial" or "Astral" Spirit, there are two primary fundamental approaches:

One is Corporification, which is basically a Condensation of the "intangible" Volatile, usually employing a Magnet/Medium.

The other is Retrogradation, which is basically the subtilization of the Gross Mineral Salt "back" to its Mercurial state.

It basically depends on which end of the pencil we are using.

The "Astral Spirit" is also sometimes named an "Aerial Spirit", which can add even more layers of confusions, because:

By "Air", it is not necessarily the atmospheric air that the alchemical authors have in mind, although it can definitely also refer to common air, depending on the context. And yes, the common air is an abundant source of "Astral Spirit", because it is the most accessible intermediary between "Heaven" or "Fire" and the usable Form we require, which is the Form of "Water". It's worth noting here, that the Alchemical Authors often speak of the Forms rather than of the Elements. Therefore, "Air" indicates the Gaseous state, while "Water" is indicative of the Liquid state. And the gaseous state ("Air") is much more conductive to the initial Magnetic Attraction & Corporification of the aforementioned Spirit. Additionally, "Air" can also refer to a Salt elevated to a high degree of subtlety and volatility. Moreover, solid state matters (salts/minerals/etc.) are often seen by Alchemists as "condensed Air", which can add even more confusion.

We must also study the multiple meanings of the "seasons", of "following the course of the Moon" and "pointing to the North". The Moon is also associated with the Cold Central Fire, as detailed in previous posts. And Spring is ruled by Aries (Mars), Taurus (Venus) and Gemini (Mercury). But autumn is ruled by very the same "planets" in the classical model: Virgo (Mercury), Libra (Venus) and Scorpio (Mars). And the North can be a Cardinal direction, but it can also refer to the Astrological Ruler of North, as well as to the "North Star" in its actual Form Factor, such as a star-shaped marcasite, for example. Or even the star-like shape of the anus, also known as "The End of the World", which is literally located "between two mountains" and from whence comes a "stone that is rejected", from the roots of the "Hollow Oak". And then there's also the geo-political allegory of "traveling to both Indies", meaning East and West, meaning Mars and Venus, the so-called "Parents of the Stone".

We have multiple avenues of research here, and the good news is that one interpretation doesn't invalidate the other, as long as the underlying principles are observed.

Finally, it's a good idea to remember that in Alchemical nomenclature, it's ultimately ALL about the Salt. It can be the most fixed one, or the most volatile, or anything in between, but it's still all about the "salt". For example, a Salt whose Specific Fixing Sulfur Principle has been "burned away" or "neutralized" will eventually, after some iterations, become a "water" (a liquid at room temperature), but it is a non-aqueous "mineral" or "metallic" water, it is now a veritable "Mercury". And in the words of Cyliani: "The Universal Medicine is a magnetic salt that serves as a covering for a strange energy, universal life."

I think one of the problems of Alchemy aspirants is that, even if they can be bothered to actually fucking read, they don't read attentively, and then they go on wondering about further elucidation on topics that are already well-described in the relevant literature. And even so, many of us read the classical texts looking for confirmation of a specific path or method that we ALREADY have in mind. This is a mistake IMO. As the Principles are better understood, which is after all not so difficult for the subtle, dot-connecting and principle-oriented mind, we can apply these understandings in Practice. And a mind that's not clouded by religious indoctrination is even sharper, because then the allegories in your favorite "scriptures" can be seen with more clarity. On the other hand, it's also a mistake to delay the Practice, because the principle-based practice will the reveal to our eyes (and noses) the states of matter and the different roles those states play in our work.
Amazing disambiguations @Andro.
Thank you.
Again... principles.
I think the Golden Chain of Homer Part 1+2 is the "Bible" on principles.
Do you have any other preferable texts that spell out principles, akin to the GCH?
 

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How concentrated do we think the masters were making their

acidum-pic2.jpg.png?

When they say they were removing the phlegm, that indicates they were concentrating.
but do we have any indication of how much?
To full concentration?? Removing all the phlegma?
for eg: Palmer / Cyliani, etc?

On thinking further about this, one can see, that even if the medium was more dilute, upon coagula,
the phlegm would be distilled off. So it doesn't matter, too much.
I do imagine, however, that if the medium is too concentrated, it might dissolve the mineral matter
too quickly. And too weak, it may take forever.

So it's a matter of timing and a happy medium for our medium.
 
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