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. Archemy or Alchemy? You Decide! Recipes for Making Gold - Quartz Geode Transmuting


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Hermetic Pilgrim
May 23, 2009
Patrol and Adds777

If Voltage reads zero this does not mean there is no current flow, it could mean no resistance.

Patrol did you check the resistance of the material?

Having said that I don't suppose you have created a superconductor that works at room temp...

Have you? :eek:



Hermetic Pilgrim
Dec 19, 2009
Yes before inserting the two electrodes I set the solution at 20 ohms. You can be right there might be current only I used analogue meters.


Hermetic Pilgrim
Dec 19, 2009
I used granite mortar pestle to grind sulfur and mercury sometimes for more than half an hour to grind for the mercury to be saturated. When 1oz of mercury is saturated in right amount of sulfur it is in powder form. I may prefer cinnabar than hg next time.


Mysterious Stranger
Oct 22, 2012
Patrol that sounds like a good idea. The problem is that Cinnabar is so expensive to source if you wish you buy it as high quality power. I found a few sources in China, but they charge alot for the quantity that is needed.
Does anyone know of a cheap but good quality supplier in Europe or the Americas.


Mysterious Stranger
Oct 22, 2012
Has anyone managed to find a live link to the Schneider December 1995 video where he describes the process.
This would be a great help. All the previous links now don't work. hmmm, I wonder why?

I'm not giving up on this.

By the way... someone was speculaing, on this thread, that this could possibly be a way to further achieve the Stone! He said that as we are not asking much to step up from Silver to Gold. Therefore could we also go from Gold to the Stone! Although at first I was inclined to be sceptical about this, there maybe some truth to this - possibly. What do people think? The Stone apparently can be achieved a number of ways... so why not.
I know this doesn't sound likely, however, who knows.

I'm going to also start a seperate thread on Fulcanelli and the Path of the Black Dragon. This is considered one of the Royal, noble, dry ways to make the Stone.
I've also managed to come across some documents that apparently show the process of preparing the famed Alchemical "secret fire," together with a scientific explaination
of how the transmuation occurs. I think they were on another seperate thread anyway.

But not on this thread!


So please anymore info on this transmuation process using Quartz Geodes is welcomed.
There must be someone who has done this. I know no one would actually say if they suceeded. However come on, what is the point of this thread and group if we don't share information - carefully obviously!
I just get the feeling that sometimes people deliberatley spread dis-information to throw people off some secrets! I know that Alchemists did & do this to keep their secrets. However at what point is it
permissible to allow true seekers to access the true information or true paths.

I am ever seeking and cannot give up!
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Hermetic Pilgrim
Dec 19, 2009
There is always a problem of electrodes, if electricity is not important as \RogerC posted then we can try filament heating, nichrome wire is small in surface area the heat distribution is uneven, I have repeated this and fail. Please \Adds777 try experimenting with carbon resistor 20watts 15ohms it can melt sulfur gradually, mine is 3in long and half in square, but never tested in the geode with solution because my battery has worn out.


Hermetic Pilgrim
Dec 19, 2009
ADDS why not try Nick Collete dry method I have his book if you have I can sent including his articulation from ehow on the wet method. I can share effective dew collection I can collect half liter of dew in a night by using 15 pcs plastic of 1 to 1.5 liter coke, filled with ice put 1 glass of water to condense faster. This is safe than using plastic bag. Better to set this plastic in racks of clean coated steel used inside ref, don't put the plastic-ice on the bottom of the container just expose it in the air to condensed faster. Large container is not good you will need more ice, just increase the surface area by this number of coke plastic.


Mysterious Stranger
Oct 22, 2012
I would appreciate any help or information you have on any ways to make the Stone. I can PM my email address to you, unless you can't see it on my profile. I am very interested in Fulcanelli's dry path as apparently it only takes a few hours to make the stone. The path of the Black Dragon is a very interesting read.

I'm thinking of getting an actual 8 inch un-cracked Geode soon. I want to make this happen. Cinnabar is still difficult & expensive to find & buy. I am concerned about mercury poisoning, any advice on protective equipment?

I feel there is something missing from this Geode process?


Mysterious Stranger
Oct 22, 2012
Hello Patrol,

You know I think I might just go ahead & try the Wet method you described. I've also found it elsewhere as well. There is something that bothers me about this Geode method - in that we are working with mercury - through the Cinnabar.
It's quite easy to get mercury contact or even poisoning even if you take reasonable steps to keep yourself safe. What this method needs are clear instructions! I still feel that some people are holding back their knowledge of the secret steps that will make this process work! It is very frustrating indeed!!!!

Of course I want to make the stone, every budding Alchemist does. I think the Dew method sounds very safe. I am still interested in Fullcanelli's, path of the black dragon, to make the stone. Instead of taking months or years - Fullcanelli's method takes
only a few hours to do - at high heat! Again some vital steps are missing that I've been working on the fill in their mystery. I've already got some stibnite to use! There is a french language video that shows the steps of making the stone - via Fullcanelli's mehod. I just need to find a decent video language translation service.

I hope the wet dew method doesn't take years to do!

Again - I reapeat! Does anyone know the secret steps that we are missing to make this Geode process work & without exposing oneself to mercury poisoning. We need more info on safety procedures please - & where do you buy
high quality Cinnabar cheaply please!
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Hermetic Pilgrim
Mar 27, 2012
First let me say I never got this working. Not sure why. Must've tried everything except... the way to get it working.

> 1- Does anyone know where I can find a cheap source of quality Cinnabar. I found a source from China that is quite expensive, so I'd rather not choose that one.
PM me for a cinnabar supplier. I get geodes from Gem Center USA. PM me for where I get Brazilian cathedral geodes, but don't bother unless you get it working with Las Choyas.

>2- I see that working with Mercury 1oz is an alternative to working with Cinnabar. I do have concerns regarding working with mercury or cinnabar anyway. I rmember someone saying that Mercury conducts better maybe?
It's not supposed to conduct through the powder. The electrodes are and function as a heating element. I would use cinnabar because the spirit is stronger and the mercury transmutation is more controlled and limited by the cinnabar decomposition.

>3- Sounds like the idea of the leads toching together in the Geode is possibly the way to go. Any ideass I've also read somewhere else that the leads need to be of exact dimentions? Any comments
It's not the way to go, it's the only way.

> 4- Are people sticking with the idea of using silver shaving as opposed to lead. Comments & ideas please.
Don't mess with the recipe.

>5- Are there any live links at all for the December 1995 video at all!!!!!
It's out there, but people won't share for obvious reasons. Based on what I've read though, there's nothing in there that will help you with this method.

>What this method needs are clear instructions! I still feel that some people are holding back their knowledge of the secret steps that will make this process work! It is very frustrating indeed!!!!
Haha there are no secret steps. Everything you need is there, albeit with some typical alchemical vagueness.

One guy that got it working left some hints. I couldn't get it working, but maybe they can help you.

"i am working on gathering..."

"a nice dc power supply with..."

"its inevitable that it works. thats what electricity does. it changes elements to other elements. the electrodes are the most difficult part to figure out through trial and error. they either have to be all copper, all
lead, or copper coated lead 1/16in, or lead coated copper electrodes 1/16in. i saw the original seminar on video of phil schneider mad as hell because some government people just tried to kill him again. he was so mad, he told his audience how to transmute gold using a quartz geode. he explained how its done, and 2 weeks later he was suicided."
Start testing with a 1/16" thick lead coating.

"the gold formula will work. uncracked quartz geodes and the correct coating of lead on top of copper electrodes(has to be the right thickness for the reaction to take place). copper welding contact tips are made for high amperage so they won't melt like lead electrodes will @3amps. this is the misdirection of the formula online. the electrodes and using an uncracked quartz geode. it will work. this is how i will exploit the "believers". because they believe gold is worth money that i can use to eat and have a roof over my head."

"I am having a problem with my low quality geodes. i drill the right size holes in them and insert my electrodes @ 3 amps constant current. in under 5 minutes of current, the goede violently explodes."

"there is a pot of gold in my garage. lol."

"now here is the well guarded electrode secret to making the formula work. if you read the "2 lead copper electrodes", this can mean alot. here's where trial and error comes into play. some say all lead(pb) electrodes, some say all copper electrodes, and no one says the true answer. its a combo of both. but not a metal mixture. but a certain thickness of coating of one metal on top of the other. i'll give you a huge hint: you know the thickness of the coating put on welding rod metal? the white powder coating? thats how thick the coating has to be."

So based on the above...
- Just use copper rod 0.25" diameter
- Ditch the 4 car batteries and just get a 48v DC power supply capable of pushing 3a. Just use some steel wire from the hardware store, arranged in a parallel segment as your resistor. Use an ammeter to measure for 3a. A lab power supply is good because of the current display.
- Electrodes are copper coated with lead. Pure lead will also work if you can manage to keep the circuit closed as the lead melts. LeoRetilus used pure lead.

Some advice from my failed attempts
- Earplugs for when you drill the geodes and a mercury vapor filter
- Start with Las Choyas for your testing. Once you make gold, upgrade to an amethyst cathedral. You can PM me for my supplier for amethysts. There are basically two types of Las Choyas geodes based on my observations. LeoRetilus is correct in his observations regarding the best geode types. He mentions that they contain chalcedony. The Las Choyas geodes with chalcedony basically always have very well developed crystals. http://gemcenterusa.com/images/products/large image/geodes/crackedchoyasgeode.jpg Compare that to the other type, which merely has a "coating" of crystal. http://www.mindat.org/loc-8299.html Note the absence of chalcedony and the brown shell.
- Just use 0.25" diameter copper rod and coat that with lead. Make sure they don't stick out of the geode too far or the thermally conductive copper will dissipate any heat away too fast.
- Arrange your rods touching parallel
- Use steel wire from a hardware store, and arrange it in parallel for your resistor. Or you can grab two of these and arrange them in a series. http://www.ebay.com/itm/130697179186?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
- Speculation: Since it is proven the current doesn't matter significantly (the guy above says 1a will do the job), if you don't get heat maybe try using a welding power supply instead? These are DC and can push out 40a continuously at 100% duty cycle depending on the model. Use longer steel wire segments for your resistor.
- The same rods that mysteriously heat up to 115F inside the geode will not heat up at all outside the geode when in the same arrangement, so the geode does do something strange... Another thing is that with one thickness it might heat up to 115F, with another it won't heat up at all...
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Hermetic Pilgrim
Mar 27, 2012
I'd also like to point out a few other things. The guy states that "most is dross" and "shake the crap out of it". From these we can conclude that
1. Temperatures are not high enough for everything to gas away
2. Temperatures are high but runtime is short.
3. Really well sealed with clay, which seems unlikely.
1. The gold buttons are embedded in the dross, hence the shaking to free them.

Since he also suggests that 1a will do the job, then a set temperature is likely not critical, as long as the mercury is freed from sulfur (irrelevant if you use pure mercury instead of cinnabar).
Also my original post speculating a temperature of at least 1,076F is flawed. That temperature is merely a theoretical cinnabar decomposition temperature. It can in fact occur in significant amounts at lower temperatures. This also applies to sulfur, since vapor can also form below its boiling point 832F.

So based on the new information, we have a lower bound temperature of at least 622F for lead melting point. The upper bound is unknown, but I would say that it is below 1,076F, because otherwise the reaction would likely occur too quickly. In fact it may very well be below 832F, the boiling point of sulfur, as well. So there you have it. 622F - 1,076F (350C-580C or 350C-450C if you'd prefer to use sulfur boiling point as an upper bound). Magic temperature range. The lower bound, I am fairly certain of since it is mentioned that lead will melt. The upper bound is less certain, but determined by a temperature that allows for steady decomposition.



Very interesting crestind
There is a website of Europe that claims to have made this process not remember its name, I will soon publish


Mysterious Stranger
Oct 22, 2012
More information the better

Ok Tungsten, that sounds good. Please post the info or link regarding the website soon.
I think we all want to get this Geode process working.



Hermetic Pilgrim
Dec 19, 2009
The author speculates that an electrolyte must be missing to make the formula work, for all of us who tried in powder form had failed.


Hermetic Pilgrim
Mar 27, 2012
The author speculates that an electrolyte must be missing to make the formula work, for all of us who tried in powder form had failed.
Um, no. You need to read the whole thread. In any event this method is pretty terrible and there are easier ways to make gold.


Hermetic Pilgrim
Mar 27, 2012
LeoRetilus originally mentioned his anodes came from the Alchemy Castings company in Ontario. The website was up as of last year, but now it's gone. Luckily I had some images saved. He said he used, "lead type sacrificial anodes like the type you screw into pump casings". I don't know what in the world that is, but he said he sent the links to user "researcher". researcher unfortunately did not share these with me, perhaps he got it working?

In any event, I had some photos from the original website saved. Under one of their "lead" categories, there was another link to anodes. Therein was a fascinating photo that looks exactly like... 0.25" copper rod with a coating of lead. I don't know if that's what it is, but the resemblance is uncanny.


Here are the links. The first picture gives you an idea of what this type of anode is like... the second is the curious photo I had from the Ontario website.


the cinnabar can be manufactured by ourselves, we can mix mercury with sulfur, but we use protection for the vapor and use a gas ejection system for when the mercury starts to heat up ....

ghetto alchemist

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Mar 21, 2011
He said he used, "lead type sacrificial anodes like the type you screw into pump casings".

I'm pretty sure that sacrificial anodes are used to protect metal parts that are immersed in salt water.
Therefore, this type of leads can probably be bought in any supplier of parts for marine engines.

Don't take that as an endorsement of this process though...

Lastly..... making cinnabar from elemental mercury is just plain scary :O
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ghetto alchemist

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Found some more information relevant to this.
Cynthia Drayer has put out another affadavit with a lot of new information.
I was surprised to find that phil himself was an alchemist, I never came across that before.
Also surprised about his affinity for quartz crystal.

Source is here
But I will paste below since the site is sure to disappear eventually.
(the link to phils handwritten process is long gone.)

Cynthia Drayer says:
Wednesday, March 11, 2009

Cynthia Drayer (aka schneider):

Philip was strangled with a long thin rubber hose. It was wrapped
around his neck several times and knotted once in the front. His death
certificate states that he committed suicide by strangulation. Having
known Philip, he would never have killed himself, let along killed
himself in such a bizarre manner. His body was found slumped over his
bed and his body had fallen head first into his wheel chair. It was a
most unusual position. In order to end up where he did, he would have
taken the rubber hose, wrapped it around his neck several times (which
he could not do because of limited movement in his shoulders) and tied
it in a knot (which he could not do because he had several fingers
missing) and them just sat there on the edge of his bed waiting to die,
then would have fallen over into his wheel chair. Many times, and even
in one of his videos, he mentioned that if it was said he ever committed
suicide, you would know that he had been murdered. This was 1/10/1996,
during the Clinton presidency, when murder by suicide was quite common.
His best friend had been murdered by suicide in a Portland Park, Ron
Rummel. Philip's life had been threatened/endangered several times the
previous 4 months. He had been run off the road in California and had
been shot in the shoulder. He had ways of knowing when he was in danger
and had a way of "avoiding" death. But this time his assailants did
something different. They did not threaten him directly. They
threatened him by saying that they would hurt his daughter Marie, or his
god son Michael, or me. They knew where we lived and where Marie went
to school and who our day care provider was. They told him that if he
did not "give himself up to them" that they would hurt his family. He
believed them and so he gave himself up in order to keep us safe. In a
way, he became more powerful in death, as his message is all over the
internet and he may be more well known now than he was in life.

The reason why there was so much confusion about his death is because he
died 1/10 but his body was not found until 1/17, and it was a very warm
apartment. His body had swollen and he was green already with decay.
You could not see the rubber hose around his neck until later, when he
was placed into "cold storage" at the funeral home. When he was first
found, the police officer, landlord, and his best friend Blaine, thought
he died of a stroke (there was blood on the floor near the wheelchair)
and although it was against the law, no coroner or assistant came to
see his body before it was removed from his apartment (the coroner was
golfing and did not want to leave his game). They just called the
funeral home and he was taken from Woodburn, where he lived, to Portland
where I lived. I asked the funeral director if I could see the body,
but because of the decay, he suggested I not do that and told me the
coroner of Clackamas Co. in Oregon was someone he knew and trusted.
However, even the funeral director did not know that the coroner had
never been to Philip's home in Woodburn. Later the funeral director
went in to look at Philip's body, and that is when he found the rubber
hose around his neck. He might never have looked except I kept hinting
that I wanted to be sure it was a natural cause and not a murder.

After the funeral director saw the hose, he called the police, and they
took Philip's body to the Medical Examiner. When I saw the autopsy
report I did not believe at first that it was Philip because the
descriptions of his body was all wrong. I asked for the autopsy photos,
however, and it was Philip, in graphic detail, but to this day I know
from the autopsy report that there was a major cover up from the
description of his body. I was told that samples of his blood and urine
would be kept. I had his body cremated thinking that if I needed to, I
could request the samples for testing. But like everything else, it was
a lie and they destroyed everything.

2. What materials were stolen from your house that belonged to Phil?

Initially I could not find Philip's wallet. I looked everywhere. In
his cloths in the closet, under the bed. under items, everywhere. A day
later I mentioned to the police that the wallet was missing and they
actually took an interest in his death, until his wallet mysteriously
"appeared" in his pant's pockets in his closet. Once I found it, they
stopped being interested. So someone had come back into the apartment
and "returned" his wallet.

The items that were stolen were:

1) all of his notes for his upcoming book. I even wrote a chapter for
his book on how to protect yourself against aliens.

2) all lecture notes and photographs. These included the original Navy
photos of the Bikini Atoll and the atomic blasts. Airiel photos showed
UFO's coming out of the Bikini Lagoon through the mushroom clouds. So
when you see the videos of Philip's lectures and you see photos being
shown, they were ALL gone

3) all of his Higher Math Books, some books on Masonic Knowledge, and
Alchemy notes on how to make gold

4) all of his metals from UFO's, samples, and his periodic table showing
minerals that have not been revealed to the public

5) some video tapes

6) The "Little Alien" magazines

3. Do you know exactly what company and occupation your husband
worked for
and the places he worked at exactly?

Philip worked for Morrison Knudsen. they are based in Idaho. They are
famous for being civilian contractors for the military, and this is were
Philip worked to make DUMB bases. This is where he became an expert in

He worked for the National Coast Guard - later in life he went on search
missions for missing people

He worked for a construction company in Vietnam.

He flew planes out of Area 51 - there was a book on Planes, and he is in it

Philip often told me that the major part of his employment was under the
'wrong" social security number. When he applied for social security
disability, he found out he could not get SSD, even though he had a long
work history. He could only get SSI - he was getting this before we got
married. He was fighting the Soc. sec. admin. right up to the time of
his death, trying to prove that his work history was under another
person's soc. sec. number. I was able to find many of his notes, was
able to determine the "false" number and the soc. sec. admin. verified
that this was correct. HOWEVER, because there was a living person
attached to this false number, and because Philip had already DIED,
they WOULD NOT PURSUE this mistake and they would not allow me to
contact the other person - I could not determine which jobs were
Philip's and which jobs were this other person. So my daughter lost her
ability to get soc. sec. death benefits under Philip. I couldn't even
get the death benefits to help bury Philip.

4. Details regarding harassment you got from government agencies, and or
the corporations he worked for?

Before I got married to Philip I had a friend by the name of Terry.
Terry worked for the NSA and is the "lawnmower" man. He could send his
"spirit" through electrical lines, like TV's, telephones, computers,
etc. - he would go into a trance, and then wooosh, his spirit would
leave his body and he was gone. He also had a device in which he could
just turn a corner and then "disappear" - it was based on the
Philadelphia Experiment, pocket sized version. However, because my
perceptions are different than most, I could still she his "shadow" and
I knew he was still around. He was fascinated by this. It was with him
that I saw my first "man in black". That was scary. When I told Terry
that I had met Philip and that we were engaged, he came back to see me
several days later. He expressed great concern and told me not to marry
Philip. He said I was asking for a lot of trouble because of what he
had done in the past. He also seemed to know a lot more about me, and I
suspect he had looked at my "file". When I cornered him about this he
admitted that he had seen my file with the NSA, and that it was 2
volumes (and this was BEFORE I married Philip, I can only imagine how
big it is now, probably 10 volumes). It is also important to know that
my father, Frank Martain, "disappeared" before my birth. He went
missing about July, 1952 and I was born April, 1953. Later was told
by Terry that my father had become involved in Los Alamos, and had
become a "Mechanic" (Killing people) - because I was a 10 month
pregnancy, people have told me that my father was probably a "Montauk"
boy. His entire past has been erased, including his marriage to my
mother in Mexico, his birth in Los Angeles, CA, etc.

So when I married Philip I began to notice things. There was a
"clicking" in my phone when I picked it up, and throughout the
conversation. There was a weird truck with a wooden cover from Canada
that showed up everywhere Philip and I went.. It was hard not to
notice. My neighbor, that had been living in her home for 50 years,
suddenly went to a nursing home and a new neighbor came in the same day
Philip moved into my home. Philip was a little paranoid, but with good
reason. It really was weird. I was pregnant with Marie, Philip and I
had gotten married, and I felt like everywhere we went and everything we
did was being watched. I was fed up. I actually went to the FBI office
in downtown Portland and up to the FBI floor. I told them I wanted to
talk with someone and was shown into a room with a large mirror (I'm
sure two way). A gentleman came in and while we were talking, would
click on and off his pen (probably recording). He asked me why I
thought that they would be watching Philip. I told them because Philip
had been in many black op projects and knew a lot about DUMB bases.
The FBI agent got rude to me stating "What makes you think that we would
spend millions of dollars on Philip.....why he is just a little fish in
a great big pond! and then the conversation was over and he left. I
noticed that the clicking on my phone ended and the truck disappeared.
They were still watching, but it was not made known to us so openly.
After Philip's murder I was thinking that Philip must have become a big
fish in a little pond.

After Philip died people showed up at his funeral that I did not know.
There was a man from Canada, who was really tall, with long fingers and
an unusual aura - it made me think of "Thor" the alien from Venus that
was captured in the photo that Philip had on the USS Eldridge before the
Philadelphia Experiment. I felt he was not of this earth. I remembered
the truck from Canada and it made me wonder. After we left the funeral
we went to my home only a few blocks away and I gave them items from
Philip's home. I did not want any of the "evidence" of aliens and UFO's
and black ops in my home. I know what the truth is without having proof
of it. I already felt like someone had been in my home. Someone had
been through stuff, but nothing was missing. As they were leaving for
their cars, a black military helicopter flew overhead and then circled
back, it hovered over my home and I could not see any markings, no
numbers, no words - a man was sitting, his feet on the rung, with
binoculars in his hands, looking at us and writing down license plates
from the cars. We were all unbelieving, having heard about black
helicopters but I had never been a part of such an event. Al Beileck
knew right away.

As everyone was leaving my home I noticed that my neighbor across the
street was moving out that very day. My "watcher" was leaving.
She moved in when Philip came to live at my home, and she moved out when
he was buried.....

5. Are their any available resources that proves his involvement in any
projects he has spoken about or personal documents about his research, or

I have the original soc.sec. documents that show the employers he had
under the wrong soc.sec. number.

All of the original documents used in his lectures were "taken" after
his death and before his body was found.

I know he worked in Saudi Arabia and had a hard time because of his
missing fingers. People thought he had been punished for stealing
something. He bought a platinum watch over there and later traded this
watch for a bracelet that I am wearing on my wrist right now.

He built a DUMB base in New Guinea - while there he fell in love with a
daughter of a chief and they had a son together. The son developed
leprosy and was in a leper colony while I was married to Philip. He got
a letter from New Guinea, first telling him that his son had died.
Later before our divorce, he got a letter telling him that the mother
had died in a motorcycle accident.

Philip told me that he had evidence that a major computer breakthrough
had been developed between the USA and Japan. But the USA got greedy,
and they destroyed documents and took all the credit for the royalties.
While lecturing, a person came up to Philip and gave him documents that
had survived to prove we had kept JAPAN from getting Millions of dollars
of royalties for this invention. He actually went to Vancouver, British
Columbia and was flown by Mitsubishi to JAPAN to give the documents to
their government so that they could go to the World Court and sue the
USA for the portion of the royalties that were their's. Philip would
get a portion of these if they won. Of course he died, so I have no
idea if Japan won in the world court. Al Beliek verified that Philip
was indeed flown out of Vancouver, BC to Japan. He could not get a
"legal" passport because of his government clearance , so they actually
"arrested" him in order to fly him out of Canada.

Philip was always interested in the Masonic Lodge. His father, Oscar,
was a 32 degree Mason. When the Denver Airport was built, he went to
'interpret' the Masonic designs found there. He was shocked - under the
airport is a DUMB base, probably the largest in the nation - that is why
it is so far from Denver. His analysis of the pictures and Masonic
items were used over and over again in a variety of magazines and articles.

He knew where the real source of the fatal E-Coli strain came from. He
went to where the livestock for Jack in the Box is kept in California.
He found the livestock pen next to a military base where they do genetic
engineering (IE bio-warfare experiments)

This was the same trip where he got caught in a restaurant in Coalinga,
CA after they had a major earthquake. (there was the World Series in San
Francisco, CA)

6. Where did the scars around his body such as his missing fingers come
from exactly?

I believe that Philip had multiple injuries from a variety of sources.
When I first met him he complained about intense back pain that never
went away. He was on Dilantin for seizures. He had bandages on his
legs and was about to have tumors removed from his legs. He had an ear
replaced, a plate in his head, partial lungs, missing fingers, and deep
scar down his chest, and about 500 shrapnel scars. His penis was slit
down the top, his knees had no 'knee jerk" reaction, and he had multiple
learning disabilities. Later he would be diagnosed with cancer,
osteoporosis, paranoid Schizophrenia and Multiple Sclerosis. But he was
also a genius when it came to mathematics. Think of the movie "A
Beautiful Mind" That was Philip. Think of his wife and child afraid he
will kill them. That was me and Marie. He literally "loved us to death".

Philip had little memory of his past when I first met him. That was
when he was on dilantin. He was taking Dilantin to prevent seizures,
but I noticed that when he took Dilantin, he often had a seizure, so
severe that he died. With the help of the Lord, I brought him back 4
times from death. After we were married, I did this one more time while
my mother was visiting after Marie's birth. Once I figured out that the
Dilantin was actually Killing him, he stopped, and that is when his
memory started to come back. It is as if he was being prescribed
medications that would either make him forget or kill him. This would
happen over and over again. After we separated he got into an
experimental program for Multiple Sclerosis and was given Shots of Beta
Keroten weekly. When he died I tried to get his medical records from
OHSU, where the experiments are carried out. He wasn't in the program.
The person who came to his home weekly, and gave him shots weekly, was a
fake. He was being slowly killed. But I guess he did not die quick enough.

I can't tell you first hand about his injuries, because I wasn't there.
I met him in the 1980's, got to really know him after my first husband
died in 1986 and we got married 1987.

When he had surgery on his back, they discovered a squashed disc and
scar tissue that represented about 15 years of misery. They had told
him it was all in his head.....

He had reconstructive surgery on his neck (where there was a tracheotomy
scar) and down his chest (where he would split open every summer down to
the sternum and ooze out his life force)

You could see scars in his temples and skull where he had a Halo Brace
at one time.

His teeth were worn down to little nubbins from grinding them, TMJ

In his autopsy photo, I saw for the first time the scar on his shoulder
from where he had been shot. And there was another mark on his arm,
easily seen in one of the photos, but never described in the autopsy. A
mysterious mark that looks like an injection was given to him before his

He talked about pouring concrete when the Freemont Bridge was made

He talked about doing work at the Trojan Nuclear Plant. He was
inspecting the doors to the reactor for "micro cracks". He was with an
Hispanic male when suddenly one of the doors opened and radioactive
waters came in. They were both exposed to a great amount of radioactive
water. The male companion fell into the water because it go slippery.
Philip was able to stay on his feet. Later the male coworker died and
Philip stated he had been exposed to 3 times the lethal dosage, but had
somehow survived. He suspected that this is why he had so much tumors
and cancer.

The 500 shrapnel wounds were from Vietnam. He was building roads with a
construction crew in Vietnam. He was a civilian contractor for the
military. Apparently he and his crew saw a nuclear plant, which they
were not suppose to see, and they were hit with "friendly fire". A bomb
was literally dropped on everyone, and they were splattered with
shrapnel. When we were at Kaiser for an emergency visit for Philip, a
Dr. who saw Philip was shocked at the number of wounds that Philip had
and verified their source along with wounds from being burned. Philip
mentioned at this time that his chest was split open, his lungs were
damaged, he got the plate in his head, his ear replaced and the
tracheotomy scar. He states he survived because an oily Viet Cong flag
was stuffed into the hole in his chest.

He mentioned that he was at the "Dulce Fire Fight" - He indicated that
they were using explosives, making a DUMB base, when they hit a "cavern"
that should not be there. He went down with several others to
investigate what was down there and discovered a cavern had already been
carved out by aliens. They were a Draco species. There were large vats
and in them were human body parts and blood. Philip indicated that a
fight began between the humans and aliens. They could actually piss in
a hat and throw it at the aliens. They were sensitive to ammonia and it
killed them. Eventually he was shot with a weapon that had a blue
light. He called it a "Cobalt gun" and that this was how he had the
major wound to his chest. This time it not only split him down from
neck to belly button, but also across his chest below his rib cage.

I can believe both stories. He had two wounds, multiple wounds to the
same area of his body.

As to his fingers.....well......I have a photo of him as an 18 year old
in the ski patrol. Even as a youth he did search and rescue on Mt.
Hood. He has some missing fingers. However, it looks like just the
tips. When he talks about the injury to his fingers in his video, he
gives a different reason for their damage. Again, I believe he had
multiple injuries. The last one took more of the same fingers and an
additional finger.

7. What proof is there that your husband committed suicide if any?

There is lots of proof that he didn't, no note, inability to put the
hose around his neck and knot it - no suicide is known to have occurred
by someone who did not "hang" themselves with a hose - he just sat there
and let it happen (NOT) - they said nothing of value was taken because
his wallet and gold and money and items of value were still there - they
could not see the true items of value that had been taken. All of the
notes, and photos and books. Priceless items. Probably stored next to
the "Lost Ark" and the Aliens from Roswell. No coroner at his death,
samples not kept, bad autopsy notes, etc.

Just a death certificate issued after his autopsy that states "suicide
by strangulation"

8. Did Phil have any friends from his work that I could contact?

1)Al Beliek - he talks about the Philadelphia Experiment - he also came
to Philips funeral - co-speaker at many of the lectures that Philip did

2)His best friend was Ron Rummel, who was murdered like he was - it is
because of his death that Philip started talking

3) Cynthia Drayer (me) - I saw most of the original documents that Philip
used in his talk

4) Mark Rufener from *Seattle*, *Washington* who was going to help him
write the book on the NWO - after he left Philips funeral he was
harassed by the IRS - he had bought Philip's car, so we had some
contact for 2 years, then I lost contact

5) Ron Utella - Philip had borrowed a 9 MM gun from Ron to protect
himself - I found it in Philips' bedroom and returned it to Ron after
the funeral

6) His brother, George Riley Schneider - George was a Multnomah Co.
Sheriff when Philip was murdered - at first he wanted to help me find
who had killed Philip - he helped me bring people together to see if we
would figure out what had happened - then I figured out who one of them
was , an old family friend - suddenly George was rude to me - he stated
he thought I was a bad mother because I was still looking for someone
when Philip had obviously committed suicide. It made me wonder if
George had been behind the murder because they were still going through
a nasty fight over the inheritance from Philip's father, who had died
several years before. He had a good reason for wanting Philip to die
and was probably relieved that he was gone - I still remember the first
Thanksgiving I had with Philip - we went to his brother's home and
Philip started talking about Groom Lake, Area 51 and how they flew
planes out of there to test them - George started to get upset and said
to Philip "if you keep talking out about Area 51, someone will kill you"

9. Was your husband involved in any unusual things like he would leave at
mysterious times or anything like that?

He would go away for long drives to Madras and Prineville, etc. - I
helped to teach him how to drive again, and he took advantage of this

I remember one time when Philip took off his watch and ring and took a
shower - he came out of the shower and layed down next to me - suddenly
he started to have a seizure and a fog rolled into the room - it was as
if things to warped, sucking in and out. Then he came out of the
seizure and the fog disappeared - I told him of what I saw and he and I
were both a little spooked. When he went to get his watch and ring,
they were in a different place. They had moved all the way across the
room to a different dresser, and the time on the watch was blinking,
like the battery had restarted. I always thought the date and time
meant that Philip would die on that date (it was in April) and time, but
he died on a different one.

I already mentioned the time that the Lord helped me bring Philip back
from the dead. The last time, when my mother was there, Philip was
still recovering from surgery on his chest and Marie had just been
born. My mom and I were in the kitchen and Philip was in the attic in a
hospital bed. Suddenly we heard the hospital bed lift off the floor and
bang back down. I russed up. Philip was lifeless in the bed. His
wound from his surgery had exploded open and there was a large pool of
blood on the floor - he was lifeless, eyes back in his sock, not
breathing, no pulse - his spirit was gone - I did what I normally did to
try and bring him back, but this time he was not coming back - I called
my mother, and we both laid hands on him. Suddenly, he arched his back
as his spirit came back and he started to breath again. Philip was
mad. Why did we bring him back?. He could describe how his friends
were all waiting form him and he was happy to see them. For the first
time in decades he felt no pain at all

When things started to get bad between Philip and I, his anger was
explosive. I was scared. My first husband, Leo, had died a year and
1/2 before I married Philip, and his spirit was still present in my
home. Sometimes we could hear his footsteps in the attic. Sometimes
items of Philips would disappear and he would find them in different
parts of the home. I needed Philip to leave, but he swore he would
never leave. Then one day he went into the attic and Leo showed himself
as a blue ethereal light and it really scared Philip. He left the
house. So the spirit of my 1st husband saved from from my 2nd. Marie,
our daughter, is such a spiritual being and has the 6th sense. She could
see Leo from the time she was born. I can still remember her coming to
me as a 2 year old asking me who that old man in the dining room was.
It was Leo, of course.

Philip told me about his experiments with quartz. He was drawn to
quartz. He could "hear" quartz. We would go to gravel pits in
Wilsonville, where he lived, and the sun would be setting. But he could
still locte quartz in the large piles of gravel because he could "hear"
them. When he would go home, he would say how the quartz kept him
company, because he could hear their songs. Certaintly this why we use
quartz in watches, because they have a natural vibration. When Philip
wore a quartz watch, he would blow it up, it would always die because he
had an electric personality. When he turned on a light switch, 50% of
the time he also blew out the light bulb. And when he got mad, the
whole room would be electrified

. Anyway, he would vibrate quartz faster and faster and eventually he
created a "warp". He made it so big that he could but a broom through
it and the broom would "disappear":. it was thorough these experiments
with quartz that he developed his formula for making gold. You had to
follow the formula exactly and in the same amounts to prevent from
getting radioactive gold. It suddenly made sense that Fort Knox in TN
is lead lined. Someone got greedy and made a radioactive batch of gold.

10. How has your life been like since Phil has departed?

Our daughter, Marie, was 8 - she was devastated and still laments over
his death. She is 21 now. Her son Joshua was born on the anniversary
of Philip's death, January 10th, 2006 (10 years to the day). He just
turned 3. My son Michael, now 15, remembers the last Christmas we had
together and the gift of a tricycle that his godfather bought him. I
miss the man that admired my intelligence. I miss the friend who could
talk to me until the sun came up about Geology, and Geography, NWO,
Disasters, UFO's, Aliens, and theories about the Universe.

Soon after his death I was contacted by Alexandra Bruce, an assistant to
Peter Moon, a publisher. Peter had written books about Montauk and
government coverups and black budgets. I found a mission in giving
Alexandra information about Philips life, work, and death. She
eventually wrote a book called "The Philadelphia Experiment Murder" and
it was released on the 5th anniversary of his death, January 2001.

I still wear a necklace I took from Philip's night stand. It has a
Mexican coin minted on the year he was born, 1947. I placed that
necklace on with the vow that I would never take it off until I got
justice for Philip's murder. I am still wearing it.

What would I like to see? At a minimum I would like the authorities to
recognise the fact that Philip did not commit suicide. I would want the
death certificate to state "death unknown" or "death under
investigation" or "Homicide" And I would feel vindicated if actual
people who caused Philip's death were caught, tried, and convicted of
his murder.

I would be glad to answer more questions

Cynthia Drayer (aka schneider)
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Hermes Trismegistus
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Hermetic Pilgrim
Aug 31, 2012
I'm pretty sure that sacrificial anodes are used to protect metal parts that are immersed in salt water.
Therefore, this type of leads can probably be bought in any supplier of parts for marine engines.

Don't take that as an endorsement of this process though...

I am pretty sure this process will never work. The reaction between mercuric sulfide and silver has been known to alchemists, "puffers", "multipliers" and "chymists" for centuries, and despite the claims of some writers that it can give an increase of the weight of the silver employed, or even some gold, plenty of other authors (John Dastin, Denis Zachaire, Lemery, Creiling, etc.) put it to the test and found it did not work as claimed. A quartz geode and electrical initiation of the reaction very likely won't make any difference over crucibles and furnaces like it was carried out in the old days. The only way you get any precious metal out of it is if the cinnabar employed already contains some of it.

Lastly..... making cinnabar from elemental mercury is just plain scary :O

Making cinnabar out of mercury and sulfur is easy and not very dangerous at all. Just put the calculated amounts of each substance in a closed round bottle and put them to rotate/tumble in a ball mill for 24 hours. This will give you a black powder which already is a form of mercury sulfide (the so-called Ethiops mineral.) To turn it into the red variety ("cinnabar", "vermillion", "uzifur", etc.) just place it in a glass flask covered with about 3 fingers of a sodium or potassium hydroxide solution and put them to "digest" at a warm temperature (do not boil them) over a heating plate for some hours. Keep an eye on the powder from time to time as you see its color changing from black to the shade of red that you deem desirable (it takes some practice to get the best red colored product.)
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I think that the works of walter rusell and nikola tesla can help solve this experiment


Mysterious Stranger
Oct 22, 2012
Look, Has anyone had any luck with this process...... at all
The instant I say this the instant I realise that even if some people did. They wouldn't say anything in public as out of concern not to let the secret out.

Please if you had got this methos working or indeed any other method that makes Au - without poisoning yourself! - please message me.

regards in managed exasperation


Hermetic Pilgrim
Mar 27, 2012
Reporting that I finally got this method working. It really does come out as pellets, though there's no "crystallization pattern" that one guy claimed. It's like if you had a droplet of water on a table, it's exactly that shape. It's a little under 1oz.

The rest of you, I am disappoint.

I thought I'd be ecstatic, but I'm just exhausted from all the crap I tried with this process. My only thought is, "Fuck this shit".