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. Archemy or Alchemy? You Decide! Recipes for Making Gold - Quartz Geode Transmuting

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all is one
observe nature
play havoc (colors and iridiscenze)
sometimes says one thing to mean the opposite
increase the volume of matter is magic, not science, where magic is the universal spirit.
Tungsten is the truth according to me.
Ora et labora

I would post 2 pics, they deserve some meditation on ;)

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It's an aether manipulation process.

This sounds very interesting!

Could you please expand on that?

For example - what are (from your perspective) the principles at work behind the manipulation of Aether?

Thank you.
 

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In the quartz antigravity experiment..yes the electrodes touch the quartz...but only the AC ones. The two diamond shaped vertical electrodes don't.

Androgynus....gravity/antigravity is just a slope(gradient) in aether pressure. That's it.
Just like the air pressure difference over a wing.
The aether also has an ambient pressure everywhere. Make a gradient in that...and you'll get the same effect as an airplane wing...lift.
 

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TUNGSTEN...the mercuric sulfide and sulfur used electric discharges.

Discharges is key to understanding that process. It won't work with steady DC current. It needs to pulse.
 

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Touching the electrode will not work. Lead is a conductor, test its continuity it has zero resistance in my meter, no resistance no heat no voltage no reaction. Shorting the electrode then your ampere reading and load is your rheostat not the mixture. I have an output voltage meter the reading is zero because lead is a conductor. When I switch the power supply I grasp the two leads and feel no heat in them.

Another possible way is to make a trigger resistor, to mix 1/4 oz of silver to small amount of sulfur and cinnabar and catch the resistance at 16 ohms to have a conductive region that would heat the mixture, then put the excess powder on top of this conductive region.
 

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Just wondering. Making a conducting powder will not work too,. My ampere reading is zero.
 

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may be the lead coating on electrodes will change the frequency of current. OR it may just mean leads of wire. But one thing is damn true is without adding lead metal there is no proper transmutation.
 

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no frequency of current..it's DC.
The lead coating on the copper rods ONLY acts as a heating element to the huge current surging through them.
 

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Correct me if I am wrong as my electronics is a little rusty, but if you put a Zenner diode in series then you can almost short the circuit as when the current flows the voltage will decrease
across the diode and close it. allowing you to control what voltage you require in the mix with a given diode value.

oh one more thing straight copper rods will conduct better than your wire, you need resistance to creat heat, your wire will burn out before the copper rods if you short them.
If you want to create heat in the rods they would have to be coils to create an inductive reactance. I imagine if your mix is non conductive then what you are trying to create is a capacitive reactance,
your mix is the capacitors dielectric. Once this gets hot and melts you may end up with a short.

Sorry I keep editing...maybe that is what you want...a non conductive mix with a conductive material within it...overload the capacitor melt the mix and hey presto! who knows?

Rogerc is your man to verify this. May all be rubbish :)

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RogerC says electricity is not important but heat. If it is true then I have tested and cut a 6 inch nichrome wire from its 2000 watts specs, I can adjust the heat by a series of several resistors. But what is the required heat is it below the melting point of sulfur? Nichrome don't react with melted sulfur and may used several times, but since Pb lead is needed here to transmute then I have to discard this option.
 

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Thinking about it you would need AC current to create heat in the dielectric medium.

Capacitive reaction = 1/2 PI f C

Still may be worth a try

Try putting your geode in an old microwave...but keeping well clear.

Safety first

Ghislain
 

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RogerC says electricity is not important but heat. If it is true then I have tested and cut a 6 inch nichrome wire from its 2000 watts specs, I can adjust the heat by a series of several resistors. But what is the required heat is it below the melting point of sulfur? Nichrome don't react with melted sulfur and may used several times, but since Pb lead is needed here to transmute then I have to discard this option.
Notice in the original document it states that there are sulfur and mercury vapors. The only way that is possible is if the temperature is higher than both the sulfur boiling point and the cinnabar boiling point. Cinnabar does not have a boiling point, but it decomposes at 1076F, which is above the boiling point of its constituents sulfur and mercury. So once the interior hits that temperature, the cinnabar will decompose into sulfur and mercury and both will instantly boil and circulate around inside. So the temperature of the heating element you are using needs to be at least 1076F. Copper melts at 1948F. Chances are, the recipe doesn't involve molten copper electrodes, so you're left with a nice core temperature range of possibilities from 1076F to 1948F. Either way, you'll be as mad as a hatter when you're done and the EPA will have a brand new superfund site.
 

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So the lead electrodes is expendable because it melts at 327.46 °C. And if the heat you suggest at 1076F I guess 3amperes is absolutely wrong. A good guy emailed me when I report a failed 3amp shorted, he said it must be 180amp. and the ampere meter in the market I used is calibrated in ampere-hr. But if we used four car batteries, how can we draw 180 amperes?
 

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I believe 3amp is a dud how can we attain heat of 1076F with it?
 

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The geode is probably also expendable. If you try heating sulfur until it's gassing, it basically glues itself to anything it touches after it cools. It's black and very hard. You'll probably have to crack open the geode to get at any gold, so with each run you need a new geode too, in addition to new electrodes.


I believe 3amp is a dud how can we attain heat of 1076F with it?
lol I dunno.
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Wish I did... Everything I've got here (the temperature) is just speculative based on the information available.
 
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No problem of cleaning the geode with sticky matter, just make a proper lid opening. I have pointed metal to this.
 

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No problem of cleaning the geode with sticky matter, just make a proper lid opening. I have pointed metal to this.
Well it sticks, but it's not sticky when solidified... it's like cured cement. Brittle and impossible to scrape off.
 
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So the lead electrodes is expendable because it melts at 327.46 °C. And if the heat you suggest at 1076F I guess 3amperes is absolutely wrong. A good guy emailed me when I report a failed 3amp shorted, he said it must be 180amp. and the ampere meter in the market I used is calibrated in ampere-hr. But if we used four car batteries, how can we draw 180 amperes?
It's not 180 amps... lead acid batteries cannot push 180 amps for half an hour. It's a joule heater, therefore its temperature is dependent on the current flowing through it. Current is dependent on the voltage of your power supply. I=V/R. 3 amps limits the temperature.
 

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ok... people any updates regarding this...

Hello foks,

I've been following this thread for at least a year now and I wish I commented earlier.

Does anyone have any updates regarding any progress?



I have a number of questions.

1- Does anyone know where I can find a cheap source of quality Cinnabar. I found a source from China that
is quite expensive, so I'd rather not choose that one.

2- I see that working with Mercury 1oz is an alternative to working with Cinnabar. I do have concerns
regarding working with mercury or cinnabar anyway. I rmember someone saying that Mercury conducts
better maybe?

3- Sounds like the idea of the leads toching together in the Geode is possibly the way to go. Any ideass
I've also read somewhere else that the leads need to be of exact dimentions? Any comments

4- Are people sticking with the idea of using silver shaving as opposed to lead. Comments & ideas please.

5- Are there any live links at all for the December 1995 video at all!!!!!


I look forward to hearing from anyone who is still interested in this... As I am indeed.

with regards
Adds777
 

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If you try to grind 1ounce mercury with the right amount of sulfur it becomes conductive, grind until it becomes black for the sulfur to be saturated you have now a virtual cinnabar. Add silver powder and set the right resistance by sulfur mixing. But woe, when I set the electrodes the voltage reads zero.
 

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Hello Patrol,
Thanks for writing something here. Grinding 1oz mercury sounds like quite a job to do. What sort of grinder is advisable? The recipe does say you can use Mercury, instead of Cinnabar. Does this have to be in powder form or something else.
Forgive my ignorance on that point.

Regarding no current flow - where your leads connected together?

I have some info on something important that someone else said about the exact dimentions of the leads and another strange thing the geographical locations this whole experiment can only work. I'll try to dig this information up and post here -
I hope this guy wasn't lying!

This whole matter seems to throw up more questions than are answered.

Look to all who read this continuing discussion - No one here wants to start revealing age old secrets of making this work. I just want to be able to do it because its fascinating.
So I would encourage all those who used to comment on this to please get involved again. I'm not interested in negativity or arguing without reason. I'm just interested
in discussing this experiment & making it work!

Looking forward to your comments.