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Either the plastic got super charged with some kind of weird subtle energy or some kind of ghost like matter outside of our dimensions clings to the plastic/space inside, who knows.
I would say that something happens to the containers themselves. According to the ORMES site, there were people that were storing trapwater in the glass containers, and there were some strange phenomenon relating to the containers. In a large 5 gallon jug, they said that it spontaneously cracked, and that there were balls of light that would sometimes jump from the mouth of the jug. In the glass cup (as I recall) they said that holes actually developed on the bottom of the glass and ate through the coaster the glass was sitting on. Additionally, they said that there was also a glass that would impart spin/spooky qualities onto the non-trapwater. This implies the water actually "aligned" the vessel and allowed it to impart certain qualities onto water that was put in it. I think this is also, to a certain extent, what happens in the body of the person that consumes such water. Sort of like how a magnet can make another piece of previously unmagnetized steel magnetic.
 

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I remember from David Hudson's talks they where able to make the white powder material exit our dimensions in the crucible then wipe it with a kind of "windshield wiper", then make it re-appear as it was before it exited.
 

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I remember from David Hudson's talks they where able to make the white powder material exit our dimensions in the crucible then wipe it with a kind of "windshield wiper", then make it re-appear as it was before it exited.
Could be the matter was spun up and then spun down with whatever they used as the wiper/wand. It flips and then comes back, I guess.
 

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> IR light [Link]
Just wanting to add a slight update to this, because red light also works for 'charging' life force.
I somehow neglected to include this when I wrote the OP.

Anyway, I just came across a dinky little gadget which can use this effect to charge water [LINK].
[Thanks @Vladimirv for pointing the website out to the forum]

> Move the water through a magnetic field. [Link]
[Usually by pumping water through a pipe surrounded by magnet/s]
- Spin the water [containing HIM] in a vortex.
Also came across another dinky little gadget from the same guy which uses both of these simultaneously to 'charge' the life-force portion of water/beverage [LINK].

On a side-note: I find it interesting that the author believes that using a copper pipe caused him to feel quite ill.
I myself recently began taking copper gluconate powder to supplement my copper levels after I realised that I'm deficient.
It made me feel quite ill when first started taking it (exactly as he described), but I persisted anyway and after 10+ doses, the sick feeling after ingestion has now faded away into nothing. It's like the body initially rejects the very thing that it needs (in my case anyway).
 

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Just came across an interesting direct testimony from @REL right here on the forum:
Many moons ago, when still tinkering, I subjected Water (which I distilled myself) to half an hours worth of dry (Coronal discharge instrument, fed by a tank of pure Oxygen) O3. This was done within an egg shaped vessel, and promptly sealed and then placed onto a carefully thermally controlled sand bath. There, in the dark, this existed for a few weeks, and then was placed into the freezer.

Pretty much forgot about it… but, the other day I laid hands on it for no other reason but to share my words of gratitude towards the spirits of Air and Water, whom I had likely crudely and without comprehensive understanding restrained.

As I finished my frankly tearful prayers, I witnessed an odd looking constellation of very stable looking micro-bubbles, which swirled gracefully like a flock of birds, until promptly as I smiled and out loud whispered Thank you, I love you, snapped into one large bubble at the liquids surface, spun around & self-twisted (best way I can articulate it) into a distinctive Heart shape, which then instantly disappeared.

It may not be the best freezer (seems to be working harder and harder to do it’s job) but it is always visibly frosty in there, and FWIW… Water containing items freeze at presently in there, while this vessel / its contents have never displayed signs of turning to ice.
He did multiple things to 'charge' the water, which were already documented in this thread:
> High voltage corona
> Ozone bubbling
> IR light
> Focused intent from a person or group of people
> Store inside an egg shaped vessel

And he then proved that the water indeed acquired and held a strong charge by not freezing (as described/documented in THIS thread).
> The freezing temperature decreases as water acquires STRONG charge.
Thanks REL!
 
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I dont know if its the right place but what do you think about my new charging device(s)?

I took a very big warmkeeper bottle and theres a spinning magnet on the ground, although you dont have to spin it.
Above it you can bubble air through water.
And above that you can even set another spining magnet.

The basic idea is to use the bottle as MEOW kettle.
Do you think it should work as such? Its two layers of aluminium with a vacuum in the middle.
Is it true MEOW kettles have magnets attached to their sides all the time?
But that would be senseless with aluminium not?
Apart from that isnt aluminium said to convert logitunal waves to scroll waves? And to block DOR?

Then I have heard a magnet in the MEOW kettle increases the effect, according to Vinni Pinto.

Also bubbling air through water over a magnet is a charging device!

And spinning a pyramid is said to increase its effect!

I just put some principles together to create something strong.

Its very primitive. It didnt startnat first, the magnetic field has to align to new situations.
Thats the spinners.2026-02-21 160921.jpg
Thats the bottle with the spinner at bottom. I took the screws back out to save place and like when I I put them in it stopped working(like when I put them in).
But I am sure it will realign itself like it did 2 times before.
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Here the 2nd spinner. Sadly I cant use it like this, it doesnt run upside down. 2026-02-22 113634.jpg
Thats closed with bubbler inside.
I use a koi ring, but if I put a small bottle inside I can also use an airstone.
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The ghetto bottle.
I have nothing that fits really.
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Thats how I can add the 2nd spinner.
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Maybe Ill try making a third without spacer.
It didnt run without, but experience showed me it probably just needs time

Better would be coreless motors.

What do you think about it?

What will happen?
 

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@Widur Spend the money on a setup, that will be expensive, to imitate 100% what Vinny Pinto and others mention.

Exactly - no ghetto junkjard. science.

Because even they do not know all the variables, so their instructions need to be copied exactly first.

And that always costs a lot $$$.

Then you will know something.

Now you do not know anything because maybe your model has the important parts ... but maybe it hasn't.
 

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I dont know if its the right place but what do you think about my new charging device(s) ?

The basic idea is to use the bottle as MEOW kettle.
Do you think it should work as such? Its two layers of aluminium with a vacuum in the middle.
Is it true MEOW kettles have magnets attached to their sides all the time?
But that would be senseless with aluminium not?
Apart from that isnt aluminium said to convert logitunal waves to scroll waves? And to block DOR?
....
What do you think about it?
What will happen?
Looks good.

IMO the aluminium "warmkeeper" should have a positive effect, with aluminium more layers seems to be better, and you've got 2 which is a good start.
You say aluminium layers block DOR, IMO they magnifiy it, small difference because I'm sure you'd know to keep it away from all AC fields regardless.

Usually people spin the magnets by moving the opposite poles through the water, AFAIK your device is rotating the magnet along it's axis, so I'm curious to know if there'll be a difference in effect.

Now you'll have to get your hands on some of that amazing German groundwater we keep hearing about and see how it charges it.
 

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Wildur, this is, unfortunately, worthless
He knows it worthless, because it's made from salvaged junk.
But zero cost does not mean zero value nor zero effect.
 

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SaniMens While deserving to be heard, your views on the social, financial and political aspects of employment are entirely off-topic here on this thread. They have being moved to a more related thread: Slaves 'R' Us

ghetto alchemist Same for your reply to those comments, it has been moved to the same thread.

Let's all stay on topic, please.
 

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You say aluminium layers block DOR, IMO they magnifiy it, small difference because I'm sure you'd know to keep it away from all AC fields regardless
Really?
I know aluminium blocks neutron radiation but converts it to beta and gamma radiation.
Youve ever heard of these gardeners doung aluminium foil around their trees to convert sinus waves to scroll waves and somehow feed them life energy?
Usually people spin the magnets by moving the opposite poles through the water,
I dont understand this. How are they moved?
Where on earth can you see such stuff?
Who does that?
AFAIK your device is rotating the magnet along it's axis
Right. The southpole is always upward and it rotates.
Now you'll have to get your hands on some of that amazing German groundwater
Yeah. Its really difficult to find a pump in Berlin that's still working. I don't know if there's ANY in winter.
But Berlin tap should be second best. Its going through sands of havel, although I don't know if up or down anymore.
I'm sure you'd know to keep it away from all AC fields regardless.
Shit. How much away from refrigerator motor and 230V plugs?
Well, the air pump should be able to cover it. If its not to far.
 

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Really?
I know aluminium blocks neutron radiation but converts it to beta and gamma radiation.
Yeah, I thought you might go in that direction, because I previously said that IMO DOR is neutron radiation.
Yes, aluminium is supposed to absorb neutron radiation.

I remember a guy who made an accumulator many years ago by placing a sheet of wax paper atop a sheet of aluminium foil and rolling it up into a multilayer cylinder.
He reported that if he placed his arm inside the cylinder in the vicinity of his operating microwave oven, it would induce unpleasant sensations in his arm.
That's why I think the accumulator magnifies DOR field.

I know you must be asking....How can aluminium layers block neutrons AND magnify DOR if neutron radiation is the same thing as DOR?

IMO neutron radiation is a stream of tiny physical particles which ALSO carries an accompanying unknown field,
and the accumulator/MEOW-device magnifies this field like a magnifying glass magnifies sunlight.

So IMO stopping super high energy neutrons with an aluminium accumulator is akin to stopping depleted uranium bullets with a bulletproof vest which you never take off. Yes the vest stops you from dieing from being shot, but then the unknown field emitted from the accumulated uranium bullets gets you anyway.

Youve ever heard of these gardeners doung aluminium foil around their trees to convert sinus waves to scroll waves and somehow feed them life energy?
Never heard of that...it's interesting if it works.

I dont understand this. How are they moved?
Where on earth can you see such stuff?
Who does that?
Joe Parr got an ABS pyramid to do the "pinch off" effect. [LINK]
He specified to use a ring of magnets with alternating poles facing upwards.

The so-called torsion generator design specified to spin multiple magnets with poles lined up around a circle
(so when it spins anything close by experiences influence from N pole, S pole, N pole etc) [LINK]
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Vladimirv design didn't say he used alternating poles, but I assumed that he did. [see post #84 HERE]

Solomon Levi's design specified that the magnets stick to the pipe from their own attraction fields. [see HERE]

Solomon Levis's other design specified to use alternating magnetic layers. [see HERE]

Shit. How much away from refrigerator motor and 230V plugs?
Well, the air pump should be able to cover it. If its not to far.
I use my IFB 1 meter away from the mains power supply without ever having any problems.
So I'm gonna go with that and say 1 meter minimum distance.
 
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Yeah, I thought you might go in that direction, because I previously said that IMO DOR is neutron radiation.
Yes, aluminium is supposed to absorb neutron radiation.
I think its related with it. Like electricity and spiritus mundi seem related. I think these powers are related like elictricity and magnetism.
Dr. Merkl also describes gravitatinal field and magnetic field being rectangular to each other.
But I have not much understanding still.
I remember a guy who made an accumulator many years ago by placing a sheet of wax paper atop a sheet of aluminium foil and rolling it up into a multilayer cylinder.
Interesting. I still have some beeswax plates.
The so-called torsion generator design specified to spin multiple magnets with poles lined up around a circle
(so when it spins anything close by experiences influence from N pole, S pole, N pole etc) [LINK]
So I understand the diagram and text too, but the pictures only show a coil in conic shape!
I use my IFB 1 meter away from the mains power supply without ever having any problems.
So I'm gonna go with that and say 1 meter minimum distance.
Good, Whats an IFB?
I have to check all that useful links later, theyre great, but now have to go back to plants and brewing! I will use an aquarium heater and red light.

I have made out some pumps around my location, will check today for function!
 

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Ah, okay. Does it have to be away from power lines, too?
When money comes I am going to buy industrial magnetite black sand, AI says its the same stuff Milevski uses.
But it sometimes gets things wrong, could you check?
I think thats the right: https://www.moertelshop.com/Magnetitsand-fein-guenstig-kaufen_5
I think this is a kind of poorer quality, wet sand? But its bigger.
 

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I did my first charging experiment and did buy magnetite. 25 kg should last for at least 4 MEOW kettles. And the coil for the pulser.
I am getting this years plants started so should have enough of test subjects.
My charging experiment was on water and seeds.
https://alchemyforums.com/index.php?threads/widurs-alchemical-garden.7796/post-92481
I used that groundwater, found a source.
But I have a problem, the floor of the kettle seems to be magnetic steal, but the sides are not magnetic. It seems to be non magnetic nickel steal.
Is this a problem? I dont want to make DOR.
 

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Ah, okay. Does it have to be away from power lines, too?
Just HV power lines that you need to be weary of.
The Joe Cell guys reported that their cells would be negatively effected when driving under them.
TBH, IMO you shouldn't be living under HV power lines anyway, because they're not good for you either.

When money comes I am going to buy industrial magnetite black sand, AI says its the same stuff Milevski uses.
But it sometimes gets things wrong, could you check?
Yep, that sand looks perfect.
Less than 1 euro per kilo too, bargain!

25 kg should last for at least 4 MEOW kettles.
That'd only be enough for 2 kettles for me.
Yours must be pretty small. 🦐🦐🦐

I used that groundwater, found a source.
Nice work brother, glad to hear it.

But I have a problem, the floor of the kettle seems to be magnetic steal, but the sides are not magnetic. It seems to be non magnetic nickel steal.
Is this a problem? I dont want to make DOR.
Don't worry about that. IMO it won't be bad, maybe might even be an improvement.
As I already said, it's AC EM fields which you need to keep out.
 

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I remember a guy who made an accumulator many years ago by placing a sheet of wax paper atop a sheet of aluminium foil and rolling it up into a multilayer cylinder.
He reported that if he placed his arm inside the cylinder in the vicinity of his operating microwave oven, it would induce unpleasant sensations in his arm.
I just re-discovered the guys testimony from 16 years ago, it's still on the web. Link HERE.

Here's his exact quote in case the link ever goes bad:
  • I put my hand in the accumulator in my neighbor's house -- as the microwave was on. I experienced nausea afterwards, and my arm that was in the accumulator felt slightly sickly, and became slightly discolored. Paler by comparison with my other arm. I have not repeated this near any microwaves for the sake of my own health. If you're considering replicating this -- It is at your own risk. I do not know of any adverse reactions in anyone aside from myself -- However I would still strongly recommend not doing this for (potential) safety.
 

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Youve ever heard of these gardeners doung aluminium foil around their trees to convert sinus waves to scroll waves and somehow feed them life energy?
The same is true for water which is under the influence of tensor rings.
OK so it turns out this is a thing.

> encircle a container of water (or a water pipe) with ring/s of metal [aluminium, copper and silver all known to work][See HERE]