All the ways of charging water collated together

[ghetto alchemist]

A recent post by '@anu cintamani' made me realise that there's no thread here documenting all the various ways of charging water.
So I decided to set the ball rolling by creating this thread and documenting all the ones that I know about.
No doubt I've missed a few, so please add any others that anyone's aware of.

On the HIM thread, I already outlined the ways I was aware of on how to put extra 'spin' on HIM particles (which IMO is exactly what happens when charging water.... you're simply putting extra spin on the HIM portion of the water).
Because of this, IMO none of these water charging techniques will do anything to water with no life force (such as fluoridated tap water).
As follows:

> Ultrasound pulsing into water.

> Magnetic pulsing [PEMF and Bob Beck pulser]

> High voltage corona [Lakhovsky Multi Wave Oscillator and Teslatron]

> IR light [Link]

> DC electrolysis in water [Ionic foot bath]

> Ozone bubbling


Other ways I'm aware of to charge water which were not mentioned in that post:

> Move the water through a magnetic field. [Link]
[Usually by pumping water through a pipe surrounded by magnet/s]

> Move a magnetic field through still water (Eg: magnetic stirring)

> Exposure to multiple structured cavities [Link and Link, thanks '@anu cintamani']

> Store inside a pyramid shaped vessel [Link]

> Freeze and thaw

> Place in immediate proximity to a separate container of highly charged water
(charge gets transfered from one to the other by way of some type of unknown induction)

> Expose to high voltage sparks or plasma [Link]

> Place inside an orgone accumulator or MEOW kettle [Link, Link and Link]

> Physical contact with sands which have been pre-treated with the bion process [Link]

> Focused intent from a person or group of people [Link]


Probable ways to charge:

> Exposure to plain oxygen through bubbling (ozone already mentioned, but ordinary oxygen might also work)

> Physical contact with quartz crystals [Link]

> Bubble browns gas through it (IMO this will definately work if the browns gas is made from electrolysis of HIM water) [Link]

> Exposure to a strange radiation beam [WARNING: potentially highly dangerous]
[Described by Bedini's patented device HERE]

> Store inside an egg shaped vessel [Wigwamann discovered the egg shape was a key for making white silver oxide, meaning IMO that the egg shape puts spin on the HIM in the water)

> Exposure to certain sound/s (ultrasound already mentioned, but perhaps other sound works too) [Link]

> Apply strong heat.
This certainly works with substances which can take upwards of 500 degrees celcius.
It should also work with water, if you can get it hot enough without it all boiling away.

> Moonlight [Link]



BONUS:
See this THREAD for different ways (that I know of) to measure water empirically (so you can test your results).

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Probable ways to charge:

> Physical contact with quartz crystals

ways (that I know of) to measure water charge empirically (so you can test the results of your attempts to charge water)

> Ice crystals change by becoming more ordered as the water charge increases

Had a nice little wink from the universe whereby I happened across the following video just after I posted that list.

Basically the maker discovered that a resin disk, with multiple crystals embedded in it, demonstrates the classic symptoms of charged water.

[Eg: at 13:44 he says that spring water after sitting on the disc for 10-15 minutes will then produce unique crystallisation patterns when frozen.]

It's hard to tell from the footage, but it looks to me that most of the crystals are selenite, so quartz probably not even required.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

> Place in immediate proximity to a separate container of highly charged water
(charge gets transfered from one to the other by way of some type of unknown induction)

I had a new realisation after I made the OP, that the Aǹalemma Wand demonstrates this effect.

The wand works by containing a small amount of highly charged HIM water inside a sealed glass ampoule.

When you stir your uncharged water using the wand, the charge of the water inside the wand is somehow transferred through the glass walls into the surrounding water.
Curiously, the makers insist that the ability for the wand to induce charge does not deteriorate over time.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Just came across another one which I hadn't known about when I wrote the OP:

- Spin the water [containing HIM] in a vortex.

Source was from the book about EZ water [link available in THIS post].
Pollack noticed that not only did vortexing increase the UV absorbtion effect, but also cools the water down by several degrees celcius.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

- Expose to sunlight (with UV portion reduced or removed).

There's other techniques which already indirectly utilise the neutrino stream in sunlight (such as pyramid, MEOW device, and orgone accumulator).
But of course you can also simply place the substance in direct sunlight.
It's best to try to remove the UV portion with some kind of filter such as window glass though, because strong UV not good for life-force containing water.
Causes it to become illness inducing somehow.

 

[Andro]

Logistical Note:

Tangential exchanges continued here: Or / Dor and the Luminaries

 

[SaniMens]

Are we actually "charging water".
I do not know.
and second question to ponder:
more charging must be better.

Because more charging may, in fact,
not result in better water for the end user.

This is easy to understand if you do an experiment.

Try taking the magnetic stirrer wand and
go trough the water at moderate speed
for 10 seconds.
When you drink it it will feel the best.

If you "charge it", that means stir it for 100 seconds it will taste depleted.

It will taste better than not charged water,
but still depleted when compared to
optimally charged water.

If you charge it with a mixer it will taste even more depleted, but still
better that regular water that has one dimension of movement or even no dimensions
if is stagnant for a long time.

I assume that water must be pure, and also homeopathic ally pure
(that means that regular filters
will not help) when doing magnetic water stirring
because who knows how the pollutant
will react to magnetic fields, maybe pollutant becomes more potent?

I assume that this works for all water charging methods, and
would add cavitation to the list of methods.

After many experiments with cavitation we achieved nothing,
only thing that I know is that Chinese ultrasound baths are
made in a way that it is very hard
to to work with them and modify them.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Are we actually "charging water".

Actually, IMO no, we are not charging the water per se, but rather the life-force (aka HIM) component (if there is actually any present).

Because more charging may, in fact,
not result in better water for the end user.

I disagree with the sentiment that more charging is not better for the end user.
IMO, SPIN IS EVERYTHING and the more SPIN you can put on your HIM water, the better will it be.
[The only caveat is with the charging methods of oxygen or ozone where less is better, because these kinds of methods will deplete the HIM portion over extended time. Which is due to the attraction between oxygen and HIM.]

We know that in nature, the water with most life-force (and most highly charged) is glacier melt water.
The Hunza people exist solely on this kind of water, and they're known to be the healthiest and longest-living people on the planet.
So the extra charge on the water doesn't appear to be doing them any harm.

If you "charge it", that means stir it for 100 seconds it will taste depleted.

It will taste better than not charged water,
but still depleted when compared to
optimally charged water.

Interesting observation you're reporting there.
Do you have anything besides the taste to let you know that it becomes depleted after 100 seconds?
Eg: do any of the other ways of measuring charged water also show reduction in charge?
The easiest way to visually check for charge is to add a pollutant such as food dye. Charged water drops it out into a separate layer.

I assume that water must be pure, and also homeopathic ally pure
(that means that regular filters
will not help) when doing magnetic water stirring
because who knows how the pollutant
will react to magnetic fields, maybe pollutant becomes more potent?

As already said, the water must have a life-force component.
And since IMO homeopathy also works by coloring and energising life-force, then yes, you need homeopathic suitable water.
I'm not sure about pollutants affecting charge, we do know that dissolved salt prevents the life-force from evaporating into air. Otherwise charged water automatically drops out any pollutants that it doesn't agree with on its own anyway, so IMO that's nothing to worry about.

I assume that this works for all water charging methods, and
would add cavitation to the list of methods.

Is there any way to induce cavitation apart from ultrasonic treatment?
I did already put ultrasound on the list.

After many experiments with cavitation we achieved nothing,

Again, IMO this would heavily depend on the water you used.
Do you have access to ground water in a mountainous area collected from a spring or bore?
Or if you don't have that option, how about trying to collect fresh rain water from a vigorous dark-clouds type storm?
(the kind of rain that makes plants grow really well the next day)
Perhaps you might then try again using one of those kinds of water.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

add cavitation to the list of methods

- Induce cavitation in the water.
[This can be done from multiple methods, some such as ultrasound and vortexing are already included, but vibrating plates and propellers would also work]

 

[SaniMens]

Disclaimer: limitations of written speech make a hard communication,
also mind control attacks make it harder for us to communicate through
computers (=crystal hypnosis device) and internet (=energy sucking net)


Well, HIM component model could actually be the one that works in your reality.

After long time of suffering I concluded that we - the people who try to think,
have an approx. 90% overlap in reality,
the 10 % is different.

So the HIM model may actually be working for you - while it does not work for me.

(Other people are, of course, idiots, they do not wish to think, they are cattle....but that ramble is not the theme now...)


I do not have a method beside tasting to measure water.
Cavitation I mentioned in the context of free energy generation using water.

My friend managed to get into a very good university lab and he made the cavitation free energy work.
But we do not know would it scale (probably not - like most other free energy methods).
But it did work.

Soon he was kicked out of that lab because professor giving him access had his own problems
with the establishment.

He says it is impossible to replicate that in a garage setting. I suspect it is like that with all advanced methods!

I suggest if one of you is presentable enough to get access to university lab...do it 100%

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Well, HIM component model could actually be the one that works in your reality.
... So the HIM model may actually be working for you - while it does not work for me.

Fair enough. We don't all have to agree on everything all the time.

Anyway, I figured it might be a good chance to furnish some proof about just how far this "charging" of water can be taken.
Check this video out if you haven't seen it already:

This same water has been said to cure many diseases simply from drinking it.
IMO this was not the result of simple charging of water, but a combination of charging AND fortification with extra HIM.
Unfortunately there is very little information on the internet for replication of Danae's machine, but from what Pinto provided it's probably just sparking into a jar of water using a tesla coil (with the coil charged with a water capacitor which is loaded with a strong life-force containing solution).

 

[SaniMens]

This are the things I am aware pieces of the puzzle:


Magnetite was very easy to get before the pandemic.
Now it is hard to get.
For no apparent reason.
That is suspicions?



While energizing water we must also try to energize:

-orange juice
-watermelon juice
-ghee
-everything else, like wearing magnets to "energize" own blood

Why?

Maybe nature has done some sort of energizing already
so our energizing will then "hold on" better.

Maybe "energizing" must be done in particular sequence
in order for it to hold on.

Experiment:

take an orange, make orange juice, but wait 30 min.
Drink it.

You will feel that something has left that juce.
While chemically it is the same juice.

Maybe energizing while that something is still in it produces better result.

Water is convenient to energize because it doesn't go bad
(bad according to our common scientific criteria!).

We can energize a 2 months old water from our glass jar.
But what if 30 min delay changes everything?
What if, analogous to cooking and food preparation energizing must be done
fast and in particular order.

And then consumed quickly.

That is why I test as much combinations as I can.

Try spinning watermelon juice or orange juice with magnetic stirrer.
It will taste better than water. We do not know why?

Try lighting a floating wick and waiting for half of ghee to be gone.
It will taste fantastic (be careful with this one,
ghee can set a house on fire, it is a dangerous bomb)

 

[Pilgrim]

Anyway, I figured it might be a good chance to furnish some proof about just how far this "charging" of water can be taken.
Check this video out if you haven't seen it already:

Sorry GA but in this instance, as with many of the videos of Joe Cells, I'm highly dubious and will attempt to explain why I think this is fake. I respect all your experience and work but at the same time I feel that this forum needs to be free of any fake or misleading material especially videos that seem to show "magical" things. This kind of stuff needs to be done in controlled conditions without any camera trickery or other trickery.

So here's the deal.

Firstly, the statement by the woman with the microphone that "you would not feel anything if it were just electricity" is false.

Here's a statement from an electrical engineer in response to the question "If two people are holding hands and one of them drives a metal object in a electrical socket, would they both get electrocuted?"..

"It all depends on the exact path of the current and the overall resistance of the circuit. Is it possible at 120VAC? Yes. Beyond that, it is a throw of the dice. Hopefully not.

At best, a typical dry human body might be said to have as much as 100,000 ohms or 200,00 ohms for two connected in series. That would result in 0.0006 Amps. An unpleasant sensation.

But if the bodies have much lower resistance that day, say 500 ohms each (rare) then the current could be .120 Amps, which is plenty to stop both beating hearts. Odds of electrocution also increase proportional to the voltage. Any high voltage line can easily kill multiple people in series."

To be clear on this, there has to be a complete circuit for people in a chain to all feel the charge (if it were electricty) and unfortunately in the video we can not see who is at the end of the chain of people and what they are touching or whether they are wearing shoes (if not they are likely to be effectively grounded).

Secondly, this has been set up so that there is a need for a man to squeeze the bottle in order that the other man can stick his finger in the water. Well that's frankly ridiculous. Why not just fill the bottle right up to the top in the first place?

The reason is clearly that this whole thing would not work without that man being there to touch the bottle, and that's the biggest giveaway.

To prove the experiment all they needed to do was either fill the bottle and have that man not participate or they could have just put the water in a glass bowl instead of a bottle and therefore not need this silly bottle squeezing element.

Thirdly it is interesting to see that the second attempt completely failed which it shouldn't have done. They tried to cover it up by saying some people were not holding hands but that makes no sense at all unless they are claiming that the guy at the end of the line has to be touching the plastic bottle in order to complete some kind of circuit. Now we know that plastic doesn't conduct charge don't we so how can he be completing any kind of circuit?

Also when people talk about ether and etheric forces they always maintain that this force is constantly flowing through everything. All matter, living or not. So why would the guy need to be touching the bottle for this to work?

Either way at the very least, the man with his finger in the water should have felt the shock that second time but clearly did not.

I also note that after the third attempt (which produced a shock) you will notice that the old guy next to the bottle squeezing guy (who has white hair and a black jacket) clearly is in a bit of disbelief and decides to stick his own finger in the bottle while everyone else is still mingling about although it's obscured from the camera a little. That guy clearly doesn't get any shock either.

All in all not convincing.

 

[Lakshmana]

@SaniMens Good comment, hallucination is the main danger, thinking that we know but we are just filling in the blanks and hoping/coping.
We are using words to try to point towards a thing that is very hard to describe and know.

Sometimes I wonder if the text I send/see trough the black mirror device is even arriving at the other end or if its being edited/hidden somewhere along the pipeline we call the internet, probably not though.

About the cavitation free energy at least we have the Thunderstorm generator which seems to scale into huge devices and jet engines, but it's still fringe and being attacked by the mainstream, what we can do is build it for ourselves and be content with that instead of trying to save the world which is not possible.
If we truly knew we would probably not be on a forum talking about it in the first place.

I'm certainly not presentable enough to gain access to universities nor would I want to work with such people.

@Pilgrim some members of the forum way back then actually bought this water and experienced the effect in person it would keep sparking for a couple weeks and could even be refilled with regular water and continue sparking, everyone may choose to believe whatever they want though.
Always love to see some deboonking efforts maybe it helps us stay grounded in reality sometimes.

 

[Andro]

some members of the forum way back then actually bought this water and experienced the effect in person.

I've done the spark circle with Danae's water many years ago, and everyone in the circle felt the zap, repeatedly, a few times in a row. Other than that, drinking that water did absolutely nothing for me. I also suspect that the plastic bottle is the actual (dielectric?) capacitor, and not the water itself. The bottle can be refilled with normal water a number of times and the spark is still there, diminishing with every new refill.

 

[Lakshmana]

Either the plastic got super charged with some kind of weird subtle energy or some kind of ghost like matter outside of our dimensions clings to the plastic/space inside, who knows.

 

[Mahavira]

I got some of Danae's sparky water in may when it could still be shipped to Europe and I clearly felt the spark on the tongue. I also noticed a mild energy boost like with azomite. Also the water tasted extremely good, very clean, alive, light and with a faint sugar note.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Magnetite was very easy to get before the pandemic.
Now it is hard to get.

Then you should consider yourself lucky before the pandemic, because magnetite has NEVER been easy to get in Australia,
save for grabbing a magnet and harvesting it yourself from river/lake beds.

Here's a statement from an electrical engineer in response to the question "If two people are holding hands and one of them drives a metal object in a electrical socket, would they both get electrocuted?"..

Thanks for showing some hard science Pilgrim, but unfortunately it doesn't apply, because 2 people is ~1500% smaller than 29.
Can you get the engineer to do the same calculation but based on 29 people?

The reason is clearly that this whole thing would not work without that man being there to touch the bottle,

Yes, looks like that's correct, the man touching the bottle is required as part of the circuit.
It made sense to me, a long chain of people, on one end the person holds the outside of the container, and the other end touches the water without touching the container.
Seems like a standard circuit to extract/measure capacitive charge.

hallucination is the main danger, thinking that we know but we are just filling in the blanks and hoping/coping.

How about we all just "hallucinate" as what we think is going on, and let the fullness of time determine what the truth is.
IMO the first guys to build a transistor did not have to wait until computers were figured out before starting their work.
Everyone just needs to have a go, put your shit out in the world, and let destiny do the rest.

About the cavitation free energy at least we have the Thunderstorm generator which seems to scale into huge devices and jet engines, but it's still fringe and being attacked by the mainstream, what we can do is build it for ourselves and be content with that instead of trying to save the world which is not possible.
If we truly knew we would probably not be on a forum talking about it in the first place.

I'm certainly not presentable enough to gain access to universities nor would I want to work with such people.

When the wright brothers built their first plane, they were breaking an incontrovertable law of nature that heavier than air machines can never fly.
But they didn't try to prove anything to academia, all they had to do was fly airplanes in front of people, academia quickly caught itself up with reality.
IMO the thunderstorm generator is the same, an invention that makes an engine output more oxygen than surrounding air.
It seems that the first person to put that inside a submarine will revolutionise ocean exploration, same for putting one in a mineshaft.
Eg: you don't need to prove anything to anybody when you're sitting on a revolutionary discovery. You just need to use it.

Other than that, drinking that water did absolutely nothing for me.

Does that mean you were in good health at the time, or were you dogged down by disease which the water couldn't help with?

I also suspect that the plastic bottle is the actual (dielectric?) capacitor, and not the water itself. The bottle can be refilled with normal water a number of times and the spark is still there, diminishing with every new refill.

That's pretty solid proof IMO that the magic is wholly or partly contained inside the plastic bottle.
When you say you refilled with "normal water", does that mean a full refill from empty or partial refill from say a quarter remaining?
And is "normal water" in this case referring to fluoridated tap water, or something else?

Also the water tasted extremely good, very clean, alive, light and with a faint sugar note.

Nice result. Makes me want to try for myself.

 

[Andro]

Does that mean you were in good health at the time, or were you dogged down by disease which the water couldn't help with?

Generally good health.

When you say you refilled with "normal water", does that mean a full refill from empty or partial refill from say a quarter remaining?
And is "normal water" in this case referring to fluoridated tap water, or something else?

Full refill. Tap water.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

Tap water.

was it fluoridated?

 

[Andro]

was it fluoridated?

Not sure, but likely yes.

 

[Lakshmana]

More likely chlorinated most countries don't fluorinate.

 

[ghetto alchemist]

More likely chlorinated most countries don't flourinate.

Ah, that makes sense then. I wouldn't expect it's possible for fluoridated water to become sparky.
I just asked google, and it said that Germany (where Andro was "many years ago") stopped fluoridation in the 1970's.

Anyway, thanks for providing those details Andro.
IMO that's incontrovertible proof that charge is also carried/held in the plastic bottle.
Of course, you know that I'm gonna say that it's because the magic particles which carry/induce charge are able to habitate in plastic just as easily as they do in water and hydrocarbon solvents.

 

[Andro]

I also suspect that the plastic bottle is the actual (dielectric?) capacitor, and not the water itself.

When the water is poured into a regular glass, or even into another "normal" plastic bottle, there is no zapping when drinking. More reason to think the bottle is the actual capacitor, not the water itself. In fact, it is recommended by the manufacturers to pour it into a different glass/cup before drinking, to avoid getting zapped.

 

[ArgentSeeker]

Disclaimer: limitations of written speech make a hard communication,
also mind control attacks make it harder for us to communicate through
computers (=crystal hypnosis device) and internet (=energy sucking net)


Well, HIM component model could actually be the one that works in your reality.

After long time of suffering I concluded that we - the people who try to think,
have an approx. 90% overlap in reality,
the 10 % is different.

So the HIM model may actually be working for you - while it does not work for me.

(Other people are, of course, idiots, they do not wish to think, they are cattle....but that ramble is not the theme now...)


I do not have a method beside tasting to measure water.
Cavitation I mentioned in the context of free energy generation using water.

My friend managed to get into a very good university lab and he made the cavitation free energy work.
But we do not know would it scale (probably not - like most other free energy methods).
But it did work.

Soon he was kicked out of that lab because professor giving him access had his own problems
with the establishment.

He says it is impossible to replicate that in a garage setting. I suspect it is like that with all advanced methods!

I suggest if one of you is presentable enough to get access to university lab...do it 100%

Not impossible to replicate. Looks up Kinetic Power Plants. They say one of their methods for making the system work is "isocompression", as I recall.