. Alchemy, The Holy Science

[True Initiate]

It's called the Holy Science because only a man of great virtue can complete the work.
The penitent man shall pass!

That's funny because they called it "Womans work and child's play" as well.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

That part has been solved with Saltpeter and Tartar. Just replace Antimony with Bethel stone in the old recipes and you are good to go.

Alfr asks which type of meteorite to choose from? Their chemical composition is always the same the difference is only in the proportions which result in different type of crystalization. Octahedrite are the best followed by hexahedrite and chondrites are the most common type and usually of poor quality and more of a stony nature.

It's hard to believe the bethel stone will work the same way as antimony but I will try that just out of curiosity.

 

[True Initiate]

Don't forget to add earthly iron because heavenly meteoric iron was considered female and earthly male.

Why would Fulcanelli talk about Cybele? What other stone was considered holy?



Everybody knows that Cybele was a meteoric stone brought to Rome during the punic wars.

https://andrewgough.co.uk/goddess/

 

[Argento Vivo]

Don't forget to add earthly iron because heavenly meteoric iron was considered female and earthly male.

Why would Fulcanelli talk about Cybele? What other stone was considered holy?



Everybody knows that Cybele was a meteoric stone brought to Rome during the punic wars.

https://andrewgough.co.uk/goddess/

What about Haymon (and Flamel etc) quote from Amiens chapter? It is ambiguous

 

[True Initiate]

Can you post those quotes here?

 

[True Initiate]

This one just cracked me up! I gotta post this here:

Texas man sees Jesus in meteorite

https://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/7506255/texas-man-sees-jesus-in-meteorite/

 

[Seraphim]

 

[Seraphim]

Surah Taha 20:17-23

˹Allah added,˺ “And what is that in your right hand, O Moses?”

He said, "It is my staff; I lean upon it, and I bring down leaves for my sheep and I have therein other uses."

Allah said, “Throw it down, O Moses!”

So he threw it down, and thereupon it was a snake, moving swiftly.

Allah said, “Take it, and have no fear. We will return it to its former state.

And draw in your hand to your side; it will come out white without disease - another sign,

That We may show you [some] of Our greater signs.

Exodus 4:1-12

Then Moses replied, “But what if they don’t believe me or pay attention to me? They might say to me, ‘The Lord didn’t appear to you!’”

The Lord said to him, “What’s that in your hand?”

Moses replied, “A shepherd’s rod.”

The Lord said, “Throw it down on the ground.” So Moses threw it on the ground, and it turned into a snake. Moses jumped back from it.

Then the Lord said to Moses, “Reach out and grab the snake by the tail.” So Moses reached out and grabbed it, and it turned back into a rod in his hand.

“Do this so that they will believe that the Lord, the God of their ancestors, Abraham’s God, Isaac’s God, and Jacob’s God has in fact appeared to you.”

Again, the Lord said to Moses, “Put your hand inside your coat.” So Moses put his hand inside his coat. When he took his hand out, his hand had tzara’at—white as snow.

Then God said, “Put your hand back inside your coat.” So Moses put his hand back inside his coat. When he took it back out again, the skin of his hand had returned to normal.

“If they won’t believe you or pay attention to the first sign, they may believe the second sign.

If they won’t believe even these two signs or pay attention to you, then take some water from the Nile River and pour it out on dry ground. The water that you take from the Nile will turn into blood on the dry ground.”

But Moses said to the Lord, “My Lord, I’ve never been able to speak well, not yesterday, not the day before, and certainly not now since You’ve been talking to Your servant, because I am heavy of mouth and of tongue.”

Then the Lord said to him, “Who gives people the ability to speak? Who’s responsible for making them unable to speak or hard of hearing, sighted or blind? Isn’t it I, the Lord?

So then go, and I myself will be with your mouth, and I will teach you what you must speak.”

 

[Jimmy Rig]

"With God, Anything is Possible"

Also, true initiate would you happen to be from Texas?

Although I do not doubt that meteorites have some interesting properties, I happen to live in a city that literally is an impact basin,(and thus one of the mineral rich areas in the world.) and I have traveled around enough to know that our region is not endowed with extra philosophical/spiritual properties - though like the rest of the world has its own magical properties if you know how to look. Rather, God is all and in all; thus if you set to work with the right intention, sincerity of heart and a willingness to learn, God may permit you to discover for yourself what is possible. I believe this can take a variety of forms be it a stone, created or natural; internal achievements, even arts of expression such as music..

At least this is what my intuition tells me, I have yet to fully unravel any spools so to speak.
Interesting thread!

P.s. I like the Moses quotes very much.

 

[True Initiate]

Jimmy sorry for the late reply but i tend to take long breaks between my posts on this forum because alchemy is a lonely science where you need to travel alone with your own understanding which often differs from others so i kinda have nothing to say to people who work with urine, acetates even cinnabar although i love the last path purely out of curiosity.

If you ever cross a real meteorite which in your region is much more probable than here in Europe just poke him with glowing hot iron pointed North beforehand in order to magnetize it before piercing the meteorite.

If the blood and water sprang out of the wound were you pierced the rock then the matter is clearly our true matter but if blood and water doesn't flow from the rock i will reject the meteorites as the first matter.

 

[Jimmy Rig]

Jimmy sorry for the late reply but i tend to take long breaks between my posts on this forum because alchemy is a lonely science where you need to travel alone with your own understanding which often differs from others so i kinda have nothing to say to people who work with urine, acetates even cinnabar although i love the last path purely out of curiosity.

If you ever cross a real meteorite which in your region is much more probable than here in Europe just poke him with glowing hot iron pointed North beforehand in order to magnetize it before piercing the meteorite.

If the blood and water sprang out of the wound were you pierced the rock then the matter is clearly our true matter but if blood and water doesn't flow from the rock i will reject the meteorites as the first matter.

thanks for your reply True Initiate even though honestly I do not totally understand it.

I just read something interesting regarding an alchemist shielding themselves from the influence of other minds upon their own efforts of precipitation. The necessity to be alone with ones source of being seems very important to success. I love the forums for the interplay of consciousness but yes time away is more than useful to settle out the contents of all our thoughts.

Can you expand on your post a little bit? What is the significance to the glowing hot iron pointed North? I know that you can magnetize iron by heating it red hot, pointing it north and striking it with a hammer. I would expect a different type of attunement will occur if striking a philosophical subject.. care to expand??

 

[True Initiate]

I was implying that you need to magnetize your hot iron rod first before you stab the meteorite with it. You are not striking meteorite with a hammer only the rod and then you stab the meteorite. Meteorite carries certain spirit which is adverse to natural magnetism of this Earth. Iron from meteorite carries another type of energy which is not from this earth but heavenly magnetism, if that makes some sense.

 

[Lakshmana]

I need to try that with my meteorites interesting