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Air Trap Replication

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I finally made an air vortex trap based on Kevin's instructions HERE.

You can buy high quality top of the line version like THIS.

Instead I ghetto'd one by 3D printing THIS.

Then used microwave magnets + PVC tape + epoxy + epoxy putty and a ryco connector, all stuff which I already had ready on hand in my workshop.

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I made a magnetic shield using a couple of old steel containers separated with old clothes.

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The core is a couple of PVC tubes with hardware store black iron oxide between them like one of Milewski's MEOW kettles which you can see HERE.

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So last week on the night of the full moon, I set up my “ultra quiet air compressor” with the vortex tube and magnetic shield.
However, when I switched it on at the dead of night, the so called "quiet" compressor seems anything but.

Trusting Kevin's assertion that the effect works even when operating inside a building, I set it all up inside a remote part of the house and tried to mitigate noise leakage as much as possible by shutting doors and windows.

Can't just run it all night though, because the compressor cant handle a 100% duty cycle for extended period.
Instead I put it on one of those old style mechanical timers for 15 mins on and 15 mins off and let it run like that for most of the night.

Kevin never said exactly what solution to use.
IMO any ionic salt should suffice, but potassium would be preferable to sodium.
So I tried potassium carbonate dissolved in 1 litre of distilled water.

OK...so that all went fine.

Then I tried adding some ether to the air trapped potcarb solution, and indeed it turned cloudy.

So there you have it, looks like Kevin's instructions are good.
 

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More than a decade ago (around 2009-2010), I've used Di-Ethyl Ether to extract greases & oils from various "living" source materials (Dew, Urine, even Wine).

If you get such a "grease" from your Air Trap setup, my suggestion would be to take the some of the resulting oil/grease and incubate/digest it for some time on low heat (around 37°C).

IF at some point the digested grease/oil turns from clear/whitish to golden tinged, you can check if it internally separated itself into a liquid and a solid, either by gently distilling or by evaporating.

IF it leaves behind a red oily and/or crystalline substance, it may already be an "infant" stage medicine (a "Baby Sulfur"), which you could potentially further enhance with more of the distilled liquid (a "Baby Mercury").

"HIM" containing substances tend to behave in very specific ways upon digestion/incubation/circulation.

But I'm pretty sure you already know all this, so I'm posting it more for everyone else reading this...
 

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Have you evaporated a sample?

Was the input air filtered well?
 

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Input air was only filtered with the standard plastic filter on the intake of the compressor.

It's an oil-free compressor, so the output air won't have any oil residue.

I haven't evaporated yet, still giving it a bit of time to fully soak up whatever is in the water.

My plan is to use the vivified ether to augment White Powder Silver with HIM, thereby turning it into a transmutation stone.

At least that's how I see it all fits together anyway.

And while on that topic, I see that the HIM thread has over 51,000 views now.
Even now, it's still getting approximately 100 views per day.
It blows my mind that it can still get that kind of traction.
 

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May I ask... Which pole of the magnet are you using?

May I suggest that you use only south pole exposed air/water/whatever.

The dispersity ratio of water is 1:5. The north pole having the 1 and the south having the 5.

Perhaps if you are performing a fermentation, or any type of DEstructive process, the north pole will be more beneficial. If you are working on a Constructive process such as manifestation or growth, then south pole is DEFINITELY the way to go.

You can check this yourself. Seeds exposed to north pole have higher death rates, decay faster, and taste like shit. Seeds exposed to south pole have higher yeilds, taste better, take longer to decay, and I speculate would have high nutrition density.

My good deed for the day. Enjoy

Additional note: the "north pole" of the earth, is actually the magnetic south pole. Hence why the "goodness" is coming from the north. The magnetic south pole.
 
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North pole repels into the "good" side on trap designs.

I've started my air trap too.

I'm bubbling into store bought distilled water for the first test, I'll distill it again after bubbling for a day or two then incubate it.

I will also do a control where I'm incubating just the store bought water which should be boring.
 

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However, what we call the Magnetic North Pole is actually a south magnetic pole. Magnetic field sources are dipolar, having a north and south magnetic pole. Opposite poles (N and S) attract, and like poles (N and N, or S and S) repel, according to Joseph Becker of San Jose State University. This creates a toroidal, or doughnut-shaped field, as the direction of the field propagates outward from the north pole and enters through the south pole. In other words, the north pole of one magnet is attracted to the south pole of another magnet. Because Earth's Magnetic North Pole attracts the "north" ends of other magnets, it is technically the "south pole" of the planet's magnetic field.
So I guess that according to this, we should label the "north" side of the compass needle as "South Seeking" and use in our designs the pole of the magnet that attracts this north-pointing but really south-seeking side of the compass needle?
 

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So I guess that according to this, we should label the "north" side of the compass needle as "South Seeking" and use in our designs the pole of the magnet that attracts this north-pointing but really south-seeking side of the compass needle?

i guess it largely depends on whether you see the magnetic force as "generative" or simply a carrier. There is experimentation required here... and many potential theories.

the south side could be seen as "pushing" Him. And perhaps the upward draft of him is more beneficial to plant growth than a downward pulling force. there is also the fact that HE has both the characteristis of being generative and destructive in nature. The north pole magnets destroying the seedlings could be seen as going either way. is it an increased amount of HIM that is destroying our seedlings and making them rot faster? or would an increase mean improved plant growth?

I dont wish to speculate here, and i feel like salt vitalization experiments that employ magnets would be the place to look to get the real answers to these questions. So many dualities at play here, it would take a clear mind and some verification experiments to find the true answers. is electricity and the electric field viewed as the opposite of magnatizm? or is it the duality of magnatism itself that is important?

i like the concept of "South seeking". like attracts like, afterall.

I have the questions but perhaps im not in a position to provide the answers. I look forward to the time i can get back in the lab and discover this myself, alas, duty as a slave trapped on the wheel has got my hands tied atm.

Happy Seeking everyone and goodluck
 

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Another thought that i had is that, if we are to consider the north pole of the earth as the actual south pole, then it stands to reason that perhaps ALL magnets are labelled incorrectly, since i think it is a fair assumption that if you take the north side of a magnet, it is likely to attract the point of a needle.

The man i pull this claim from "about the incorrect labelling of our earth" is an extremely intellegent man and equally arrogant who goes by the name of Theoria Apophasis. You can find him on youtube. very intelligent, very arrogant, and it takes effort in order to filter through the immense amount of garbage on his channel to find the good stuff. What he speaks about in those moments is incredibly valuable, but its something that might cost a person a couple days to really extract the value the man has to offer.

I trust his viewpoints, despite his sometimes undesirable attitude.
 

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The man i pull this claim from "about the incorrect labeling of our earth" is an extremely intelligent man and equally arrogant who goes by the name of Theoria Apophasis. You can find him on YouTube. very intelligent, very arrogant, and it takes effort in order to filter through the immense amount of garbage on his channel to find the good stuff. What he speaks about in those moments is incredibly valuable, but its something that might cost a person a couple days to really extract the value the man has to offer.

I trust his viewpoints, despite his sometimes undesirable attitude.

I've learned a lot from Kenny. I don't think he's arrogant. At his levels of Clarity, it can get lonely at the top. IMO.

I think it's a very relevant question, which so-called "pole" is the life/HIM giving one?
 

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I've learned a lot from Kenny. I don't think he's arrogant. At his levels of Clarity, it can get lonely at the top. IMO.

I think it's a very relevant question, which so-called "pole" is the life/HIM giving one?

I do see what you are saying and I agree with you. I actually like his attitude, because I oftentimes feel a similar way that he does, i simply gave the warning because his demeanor certainly isn't for everyone.

I am looking forward to getting home next week and getting the magnets out. It might also be worth mentioning here that Franz Bardon, when talking about magnetism, mentions that cold water is better at absorbing magnetism. I can see some scientific rational behind this because the colder the molecules are, the more subject they are to their hydrogen bonding, and the "alignment" of particles could certainly become a lot more effective.

I've just remembered one of Kenny's videos that was quiet amazing actually. I'll post the link below.

(You can't deny though that he waffles quite a bit. Some of us are quite time-poor. If anyone here becomes a genius like our friend Kenny and decides to share it with the word, do us a favor and make it quick ;) )


EDIT: Now would be a good time to credit anything I've said about magnetize to this man in the link. "Kenny" is very VERY smart and i take no credit for anything I've said about magnetism, it all comes from him. EXCEPT that magnet design I sent you some time ago Andro. That was mine ;)
 

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This one gives some more insight into the shape of magnetic fields.

I might have to do some experiments myself to find out which pole does what.

I also revisited THIS.
And made some strange precipitates with north pointing into the blender.
It looks like trap water or air bubbled water, shiny strings, cloudy, with added salt Ormus like weightless precipitate that does not fall when the container is turned sideways.

Intuitively I would want the top of the egg shape to point at the good stuff.
Does the egg shape flip around with the poles?
I don't think he explained that part well.

Very interesting.
 

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Hello EM.

I didn't know him. Very interesting indeed, and not only to this topic! The oval shape behaves in a completely different way. He talks about the TIME it takes to freeze. Modified forms of time (distortions) IMO are a major factor to consider. Can magnets be "Magnets" that propitiate a distortion in the continuum... maybe?

Tx for sharing.

Al the best. C.
 

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Water in a pyramid and different fractions of water freeze at different temperatures.

The book:
The Water Puzzle and the Hexagonal Key: Scientific Evidence of Hexagonal Water
Talks about it.
And Golod pyramid experiments talk about water not freezing.
Also high quality water from various sources do not freeze as easily.

Maybe the magnet is pushing away/pulling in fractions.
This could maybe be confirmed by using chemical water made from hydrogen and oxygen (which is toxic) instead of natural distilled sources.
 

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Well everything just said is true. Water IS predisposed to create hexagons when frozen due to the hydrogen bonding that occurs. That is a well known reality taught in year 11 chemistry.

Magnets DO bend "the continuum", or at least, it creates disturbances in the aethic field, at least, according to our friend Kenny on the video. Kenny seems to derive most of his knowledge about magnetism from Steinmetz, Heavyside, and Tesla. these are the names of the greatest thinkers of the modern day who wrote the book on electricity and magnetism so if you want to go to the source, its those guys.
 

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Distilled water bubbled with air trap created a slightly cloudy and shiny water after incubation in a sealed vessel.

Up to debate if the toroidal magnetic field is agitating something into existence/transferring charge, or if the trap is concentrating something out of the air.
 

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I might have to do some experiments myself to find out which pole does what.

I also revisited THIS.

And made some strange precipitates with north pointing into the blender.

It looks like trap water or air bubbled water, shiny strings, cloudy, with added salt Ormus like weightless precipitate that does not fall when the container is turned sideways.

Intuitively I would want the top of the egg shape to point at the good stuff.
Does the egg shape flip around with the poles?
I don't think he explained that part well.

Very interesting.

Observations/questions.

Considering that, maybe the egg shouldn't be in an up/down position but laid out?
In that case, the good stuff would be in a similar position to the one in the video to get the vortex ?

Distilled water bubbled with air trap created a slightly cloudy and shiny water after incubation in a sealed vessel.

Up to debate if the toroidal magnetic field is agitating something into existence/transferring charge, or if the trap is concentrating something out of the air.
Nice! :) I will probably put that to the test also. I Just need to make a trap and get an ozone bubbler.
 

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I'm not using ozone at the moment just 37c

The strongest field on a magnet is on its sides.