Don't imagine things I never said. Why is it that passive aggressive insults are always viewed as truths by the practitioner?
I don't know what I'm imagining here, but just like you, I'm sharing what things
seem on my end.
these statements are not truths, more ego... as if you are worthy or literate. No one said you aren't worthy, but no one said you are worthy.
They are my truths about how I perceive this forum to be anything but alchemical, and you
assume just like Kibric that my Ego is at play for saying this, and it seems its because you and Kibric don't particularly like what is being said, which is why I said that it seems presumptuous. I let people know through my posts that they are none other than opinions.
I'm open to discussion and I expect to be challenged. I want to challenge others, when they draw their assertions on what is alchemical and what is not.
I put myself open to criticism, open to being challenged, open to show that I'm wrong, It's what I'm looking for. Stating my stance clear, it is not Ego trying to make me feel ''better'' than others.
If people don't care to follow above rules they are not welcome. This is not a democracy.
Yes, and I appreciate warnings, because sometimes I get carried away. I don't think your rules are meaningless Awani, but you mentioned how my friends are seemingly illiterate so I spoke up and said that instead of being illiterate perhaps they don't care about following the rules, not that they are illiterate because if you read some of their posts, they clearly are VERY literate and informed on the alchemical phiilosophy.
You keep saying this, which means you are probably triggered or you wouldn't try and defend yourself. Another perspective could be that if someone is triggered by something you've said, and if you want a peaceful world, maybe reflect on why they would feel that. Maybe you are wrong... not when it concerns alchemical wisdom, but when it concerns "how" such wisdom is presented. Examples:
"Based on my work X is Y."
"X is Y and that is the truth, if you can't see that you're not smart enough..."
I've never said anybody isn't smart enough. I mentioned on this forum that my understanding of the philosophy can be translated from alchemy, to magic, to ones own self. I can even present my understanding of philosophy and give a walk through on how one can translate the understanding to themselves, but for the practical lab work I'm not at a stage where I feel comfortable sharing right now but even so, just like philosophy and then translating it over to myself, I'm seeing the same thing happen in a flask. It's not that I feel anybody isn't smart enough, I just fail to see any consistencies with most of the talk about alchemy lately which is why I said that there's nothing really alchemical about this forum, this is how I truly perceive things.
Discussion about philosophy, what's alchemy and what isn't is what I'd really like to discuss, and eventually, my Work. The reason why it's taking so long is akin to an Oak Tree which I will use as an example;
An oak tree takes a long time to grow. So it is with my Work. If it can be done which I don't think it can, then I don't know how to make it grow faster, all I'm doing with my Work right now is waiting patiently for the Matter to develop. I cannot make an Oak Tree, or my Matter grow faster than its own design. I'm saying this right now because there was a mention about how I haven't showed my work which I disagree, although I haven't showed it on this forum, the
preparations were shown on another, and I don't like sharing these photos because I think it shows too much.
Judging others intelligence or knowledge or claiming worthiness for some and not others are not signs of someone neither wise nor worthy of anything. We all do those things, but in a forum one can always read a post before posting and also edit it afterwards. There is a bigger opportunity to make posts more "neutral" when it concerns other members here in the forum. The rules and guidelines you seem to think are meaningless are there for a reason. To make this a safe place to say ANYTHING. Problem is people that are banned or warned often think it is WHAT is being said that is the issue, as if we disagree with the IDEA... we don't... it is HOW something is said... especially if it is a comment on others. WHAT is only an issue if it is a personal attack or threat of course, but then that is the issue not the "wisdom" being discussed that led to that attack.
We do not ban or warn due to an "idea". If that was the case a bunch of threads would be deleted. This claim that we ban ideas is made on a regular basis and it is 100 % false. We ban because the individual with an idea is acting like an ass toward others.
Due to the fact we do not hear our voices, we only read our words, misunderstandings can easily happen... the "tone" of a post can easily be lost which is why the "rules" are important and why a little humility when speaking about others is required. If I say in a joking tone with a smile "ya'll fucking nuts" then you might find it funny... but if you read "you are all fucking nuts" you might feel insulted... i.e. perhaps not write that.
You make fair points Awani. It is never my intent to be an ass towards others, and if someone feels that I am I hope they can let me know which is what you said by PMing me yesterday, so that whatever it is that I'm doing that's bothering them can be stopped. Sometimes, just letting me know is enough, like the warning I got in my PMs yesterday about my ''trolling'', ''harassment'', and ''slander'' which I wasn't even aware of.
Perhaps. But this "understanding" doesn't imply "your teams" understanding is the correct one.
I asked Kibric and of course he doesn't respond, he asks questions of me that I know will never be enough for him so I did not bother answering any of them, questions like whether green comes before or after the white, it will only lead to more questions which he admitted he is tired of, leading to possibly more frustrations on his part... So I'll ask you; Without exposing the secrets of alchemy and putting ones own self at risk, how does one (for you) provide understanding that would be generally seen as the correct understanding? What am I currently doing that you feel is not the correct approach, and how should I approach the topic that could show that it is the ''correct'' understanding without putting me at risk or the secrets of alchemy at risk? I've thought that discussions on the philosophy and relating it back to the texts would be suffice.
